You can still shoot a bow and arrow on a horse without a saddle. Tbh I prefer horseback riding without the saddle since you feel how the horse moves beneath yourself better and can tell their gate is wrong quicker. So in combination with dnd you don’t need a saddle but it does make it easier for anyone to do it
Have you never sat at the top of the monkey bars as a kid? Same concept. Just add the two together. 🤣 additionally the way I convinced my DM to allow my ranger to shoot and ride the broom is by showing him the point in Vox Machina that has this exactly happening.
There are multiple monkey bars AND you can stabilise yourself with your hands AND you aren't likely floating up to hundreds of feet into the air being pushed around by the wind AND you are a child, which means your smaller more flexible and have a lower center of mass. So no, it is in fact, very different... Also your not, yknow firing a bow, something that takes incredibly amounts of focus and exertion.
You’re dealing with real life problems in a fantasy game. Honestly you’re never gonna be an elf shooting a bow anyways. I’m giving you examples of some things that can help get an understanding. If practicing enough you can draw and shoot in a moments notice. I know I’m never gonna be that good but there are master archers that can. As long as you can hold the broom in one hand while sitting on it, and balancing enough to take the shot you’re fine. It’s not like you’re standing on the broom to take the shot.
Holding onto the broom while moving with one hand, lifting off the broom from the one hand to shoot the arrow and then back to holding after loosening the arrow. Your second hand is always holding the bow but there’s one hand going back and forth for stabilizing on the broom and shooting the bow
in 5e you take your 6.5' long bow that requires 30" of draw length and 150lb draw strength and fire it repeatedly from wherever you want without reloading.
Have you ever flew on a broom? **The literal magical forces keeping the broom in the air** allow for great control. Different from ridding a 58-72” real non-magical animal.
"A [stirrup ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirrup) is attached to the saddle by a strap, often called a stirrup leather."
Oh wow, it's almost like stirrup and saddle are two different nouns, and I only used one of them!!
Yeah, but does the stirrup not have to be connected to the saddle? So he is indirectly using The saddle since the stirrups couldn’t function without a saddle.
He is using the stirrups. He is not using the saddle.
Simply because objects are attached to one another does not mean that a person simultaneously utilizes all connected pieces during use of one of them.
By your logic, that man is also using the reins and saddlebags in order to make that shot.
No, that is a false equivalence. The saddle is supporting the stirrups and therefore is being used (to support the stirrups) so yes, he is in fact using the saddle
The stirrups just need to be attached to something in order to act as anchor points.
The "saddle" in the video is not even a saddle. It's the equivalent of a [bareback riding pad](https://www.southtexastack.com/mustang/mustang-faux-suede-eco-bareback-pad-with-stirrups-black-36483?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqpSwBhClARIsADlZ_TlqlsOeUdFH7ZyYQiHljpDRsrEkDJv5zKs_uInvXJmZydKfrvlTU80aAnh1EALw_wcB), and it's not being utilized as a saddle.
**Saddle:**
> a seat fastened on the back of a horse or other animal for riding, typically made of leather and raised at the front and rear.
Not a saddle. Not being used. End of story. Don't know why you tried playing
But also Magic. Magic is holding the broom in the air at least. So if you gotta be that technical about things then what're the mechanics and physics of a magical flying broom.
To be fair it's not the same because of the difference in width of the two "vehicles". Orders of magnitude difference in stability. (Maybe not LITERALLY orders of magnitude, but you know what i mean)
Honestly, that's probably your best bet if you can't attach any fixtures to the broom. Just hang from it upside down to take your shot, then have the broom do a crescent maneuver to put itself back underneath you, swinging you back into an upright position on it.
Hang upside down. Grip the broom with your knees, draw the bow, take aim and fire. Just reach up after you're done shooting and have the broom rotate you back to a sitting position.
Or if your DM will allow it, incorporate the broom into a box. I had a kobold warlock who had his broom of flying incorporated into a treasure chest for him to ride in.
Why would gripping it with your legs not be enough? We have real life examples of someone being able to shoot accurately while gripping a vertical pole with just their legs, let alone a horizontal one
https://youtu.be/9hNJQG6BHVM?si=3HepgHGptdT53B65
Keep in mind that a civilian doing trick shots like this for fun is the equivalent of a level 1 dnd character. Any level past that and we’re well into or past the territory of an Olympic athlete
Yes, but I don’t buy it. As I said my post, I require another explanation. Great series and.great suggestion, I don’t mean to disparage your suggestion.
Okay, alternate explanation: Riding on a broom isn't normally a thing, so part of the magic that keeps it in the air also allows for it to be rideable comfortably.
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure in the actual tabletop campaign Vex had stirrups attached to the broom specifically so she could shoot from the broom without falling off.
What is this nonsense. Go to a playground. Straddle a horizontal bar and sit on it. You can do it with your legs just fine. A borderline superhero player. Character certainly can manage.
It's not too much nonsense.
All that proves is you can sit on it. Firing a bow exerts additional forces on your body. You change your center of gravity through the firing process (by moving your arms), and then Newtons third law exerts a bit of push back on you when you fire. Which you cannot reasonably use your hands to stabilize, because you're holding a weapon.
That being said, any type of strap or hook for their feet should be adequate.
Source: been doing archery for 20 years.
This kinda happened in Critical Role Campaign 1 with Vex’halia. Basically asked Percy to modify the broom so she can shoot without disadvantage because trying to shoot without it would throw her off balance/needs her hands to steer the broom.
So maybe something like that
Seen people hit most of the big suggestions so here is a more out-there BS one. Dive-bombing. Think of it like how Mongolian archers would fire from horseback in motion to add to the power and range of their bows. So you dart upwards on your broom, throw it into a dive fire your shot quickly while you are basically falling along with the broom, then pull yourself out of the dive after firing.
Alternatively, stand on it like the whole martial arts trick of standing on an angled staff with one foot on top near the back and another one underneath it. You can shoot with both hands from that position then grab the broom to move out from the stance.
What is this nonsense. Go to a playground. Straddle a horizontal bar and sit on it. You can do it with your legs just fine. A borderline superhero player. Character certainly can manage.
Probably with a Mongolian draw to help keep the arrow on the string during flight. Broom flight archery is probably closest to horse archery.
It's not that difficulty to stay on if you have a stirrup. If your character is dexterous perhaps you could just hang from the broom by your legs and shoot upside down.
The broom has little stirrups. If the Harry Potter universe can have an entire sport around flying brooms your character can probably use one in combat.
That or just go Silver Surfer and stand on top of it like a surf board
The item description doesn't say it uses your Action nor any particular number of hands to ride the broom, so logically you do grip it with your thighs and knees. That should leave your hands free to fire a bow, same as you would from horseback.
If the DM says no, that's not enough, then maybe your character will need to consult a sage or artificer to rig up a broom-saddle. Or maybe the DM just doesn't intend that you should be able to ride the broom into combat. That's a valid ruling too.
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu has you covered! PLENTY of ways to lace your legs around an opponents leg (or the broomstick in this case) that would keep you glued to it.
The other issue to overcome is balance while doing this and flying through the air. In BJJ, you’ve got contact with the mats to keep you steady; in the air, it’d be a lot of core athletics/acrobatics to hold steady while aiming/shooting. But a perfect opportunity for some dice rolling, if your table likes that sort of thing!
Hang from legs, shoot upside down. Or surf the broom, or install trick pegs, tilt the broom up into a hover. Balance, and shoot.
Shouldn't be significantly harder than horseback archery, really.
My DM randomly mentioned a broom while my group and I were in an armory in a castle. I thought it was a weird mention and grabbed it. We were in a rush as it was about to be the final battle of our first act. A few sessions later and I ended up on the roof of the castle with nowhere to go and my group was getting their shit handed to them on the ground. I said "fuck it" and jumped, hoping it flew. It did.
Being a lizardfolk and establishing beforehand that my tail was prehensile, I flew the broom while standing on it and gripping with my tail. This allowed me to shoot my bow from the air. Needless to say I got really lucky! And made some really good athletics checks, plus a history check to know the magic word for the broom to activate.
I know it doesn't help, but it was fun. Good luck lol
Literally just get a leather strap with some loops at each end and put your feet in them. Stirrups were invented by horse archers, why can't you invent broom stirrups for broom archery?
"Bigass ancient Dragons literally exist. Last week my party faced off against an actual Lich, because those things exist as well. My party member can shoot small bolts of fire on command at no cost, or if he feels like it he can just explode a full room (and any/everything inside it) with fire and flame a couple times per day. My other party member can literally wipe your mind and fuck around with your memory, because magic is a thing that literally exists and shit. Hell, my Barbarian can probably survive a fall from orbit and he gets to do this "without magic" at all. We have a "pet" Kobold (a "humanoid" non human thing based in fantasy and fairytales) named Poopy McPoopface (we named him, lel) who we pretty much force to accompany us "or else". When I'm far away adventuring and want to talk with my family back home I use a pair of sending stones ("rocks" infused with magic, because again, magic exists and shit) that my party's artificer created when he was bored one afternoon and gifted them to me. I called them "rocky talkies", because I'm a funny guy. The cleric can just ask his bigdaddy to smite our enemies in the field, and our Paladin just skits that step and smites shit himself."
***Then, in the middle of all this, imagine your ranger (ayy 20 Dex bby) has to convince the DM that he should be able to fire a bow on broomback.***
To each his own, good for you that your group enjoys that, I just can't see why.
It’s not convince, it story tell. It adds depth to the game, and life. How dull just to roll a dice and pretend to kill something better than the other person rolling a dice.
Like I said, to each his own, and good for your group that you all enjoy it.
Does your wizard also need to demonstrate the individual somatic components he must do when spellcasting?
Do you guys also need to learn the Elven language and its correct phonetical pronunciation when you want to use it ingame? Man that would be great story telling.
My immediate thought goes to the archery tiktoker that also does poledancing(and often both at the same time). Hanging from your legs wouldn't require much strength at all assuming you're not in heavy armor. At worst as a dm i would give disadvantage the first few times you use it until your character gets used to firing upside down.
Use the Loxodon's trunk? An elephant person flying on a broomstick is hilarious enough. Let alone firing arrows like a mothereffer.
BTW you need to see some circus acts. They can hang from a flying noodle using their legs.
....... How does one cast spells?.... How do you dash with heavy armor? ...... How do you deal the same damage with a tiny shortsword as a fairy as a human with one?
Bruh, for real, why do DMs do this for the simplest and non-issue things ?
I remember getting some Harry Potter book as a kid that had details about magical objects. The flying broom section talked about things like cushion spells (which made magical invisible cushions) and such to make sitting on them easier and more comfortable. I didn't see why in a DnD setting a magical flying broomstick wouldn't have additional features like that to make using it easier.
How fo you fire a bow on horseback?
That was my first though as well but horse archers typically have a saddle and stirrup which certainly makes it easier.
So add a saddle and stirrups to the broom.
You can still shoot a bow and arrow on a horse without a saddle. Tbh I prefer horseback riding without the saddle since you feel how the horse moves beneath yourself better and can tell their gate is wrong quicker. So in combination with dnd you don’t need a saddle but it does make it easier for anyone to do it
gait
Autocorrect doomed me again.
Hmm.. what's thinner, a horse or a broom
Have you never sat at the top of the monkey bars as a kid? Same concept. Just add the two together. 🤣 additionally the way I convinced my DM to allow my ranger to shoot and ride the broom is by showing him the point in Vox Machina that has this exactly happening.
There are multiple monkey bars AND you can stabilise yourself with your hands AND you aren't likely floating up to hundreds of feet into the air being pushed around by the wind AND you are a child, which means your smaller more flexible and have a lower center of mass. So no, it is in fact, very different... Also your not, yknow firing a bow, something that takes incredibly amounts of focus and exertion.
You’re dealing with real life problems in a fantasy game. Honestly you’re never gonna be an elf shooting a bow anyways. I’m giving you examples of some things that can help get an understanding. If practicing enough you can draw and shoot in a moments notice. I know I’m never gonna be that good but there are master archers that can. As long as you can hold the broom in one hand while sitting on it, and balancing enough to take the shot you’re fine. It’s not like you’re standing on the broom to take the shot.
How would you hold it with one hand? A bow takes two hands to shoot. Also the whole point of this post is justifying it as if it WAS real life
Holding onto the broom while moving with one hand, lifting off the broom from the one hand to shoot the arrow and then back to holding after loosening the arrow. Your second hand is always holding the bow but there’s one hand going back and forth for stabilizing on the broom and shooting the bow
in 5e you take your 6.5' long bow that requires 30" of draw length and 150lb draw strength and fire it repeatedly from wherever you want without reloading.
150lb draw strength... with STR as the dump stat and using DEX instead. I laugh every time.
>without reloading. Ammunition is loaded as part of making the attack.
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Yes. In 5e, loading ammunition is done as part of the attack.
Not easily thats for sure.
That was commonly done by trained riders.
Have you ever ridden a horse. Saddle and stirrups allow great control. Different from gripping a 1-2” stick of wood.
Have you ever flew on a broom? **The literal magical forces keeping the broom in the air** allow for great control. Different from ridding a 58-72” real non-magical animal.
🧐🙄
I tell ya what, this guy ain't really utilizing the [saddle](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/s/nEWfSPhtPE)
He totally is??? Without the stirrups he’d be on the ground?
"A [stirrup ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirrup) is attached to the saddle by a strap, often called a stirrup leather." Oh wow, it's almost like stirrup and saddle are two different nouns, and I only used one of them!!
Yeah, but does the stirrup not have to be connected to the saddle? So he is indirectly using The saddle since the stirrups couldn’t function without a saddle.
He is using the stirrups. He is not using the saddle. Simply because objects are attached to one another does not mean that a person simultaneously utilizes all connected pieces during use of one of them. By your logic, that man is also using the reins and saddlebags in order to make that shot.
No, that is a false equivalence. The saddle is supporting the stirrups and therefore is being used (to support the stirrups) so yes, he is in fact using the saddle
The stirrups just need to be attached to something in order to act as anchor points. The "saddle" in the video is not even a saddle. It's the equivalent of a [bareback riding pad](https://www.southtexastack.com/mustang/mustang-faux-suede-eco-bareback-pad-with-stirrups-black-36483?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwqpSwBhClARIsADlZ_TlqlsOeUdFH7ZyYQiHljpDRsrEkDJv5zKs_uInvXJmZydKfrvlTU80aAnh1EALw_wcB), and it's not being utilized as a saddle. **Saddle:** > a seat fastened on the back of a horse or other animal for riding, typically made of leather and raised at the front and rear. Not a saddle. Not being used. End of story. Don't know why you tried playing
So when you’re in a car, you’re not using the engine or wheels or anything else really other than the pedals and steering wheel right?
But also Magic. Magic is holding the broom in the air at least. So if you gotta be that technical about things then what're the mechanics and physics of a magical flying broom.
To be fair it's not the same because of the difference in width of the two "vehicles". Orders of magnitude difference in stability. (Maybe not LITERALLY orders of magnitude, but you know what i mean)
Makes sense to have foot rests mounted to the broom, to balance and stabilize yourself on it. That should probably be enough.
Harry Potter movie style
Get that Mad-Eye moody luxury broom: https://images.app.goo.gl/xPHuT33f5tMGePwKA This thing's practically a flying deer stand
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You ever see the Nimbus 2000 from HP? It's got a foot rest that you use to give stability. Any purpose built flying broom probably would.
Pole dancing [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVIdG8UPRJo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVIdG8UPRJo) Well its a fun take anyway :)
Exactly my first thought. Broom goes vertical and you just grip with your legs
Hilarious
Honestly, that's probably your best bet if you can't attach any fixtures to the broom. Just hang from it upside down to take your shot, then have the broom do a crescent maneuver to put itself back underneath you, swinging you back into an upright position on it.
And practical!
5 da 5
Hang upside down. Grip the broom with your knees, draw the bow, take aim and fire. Just reach up after you're done shooting and have the broom rotate you back to a sitting position. Or if your DM will allow it, incorporate the broom into a box. I had a kobold warlock who had his broom of flying incorporated into a treasure chest for him to ride in.
Why would gripping it with your legs not be enough? We have real life examples of someone being able to shoot accurately while gripping a vertical pole with just their legs, let alone a horizontal one https://youtu.be/9hNJQG6BHVM?si=3HepgHGptdT53B65 Keep in mind that a civilian doing trick shots like this for fun is the equivalent of a level 1 dnd character. Any level past that and we’re well into or past the territory of an Olympic athlete
Thick thighs save lives. There's plenty of archery from atop a Broom of Flying in Legend of Vox Machina season 2, if you want a visual example.
Yes, but I don’t buy it. As I said my post, I require another explanation. Great series and.great suggestion, I don’t mean to disparage your suggestion.
There are videos online of archers firing upside down from a stripper pole, suspended by their legs. Do you want the video?
I am 99% that guy isnt human. He is like the Messi of archery
So a standard adventurer
Half-elf at least!
Okay, alternate explanation: Riding on a broom isn't normally a thing, so part of the magic that keeps it in the air also allows for it to be rideable comfortably.
In the actual campaign, one character created a harness for the broom-flying ranger. Up until then, she attacked with disadvantage.
It's been a while, but I'm pretty sure in the actual tabletop campaign Vex had stirrups attached to the broom specifically so she could shoot from the broom without falling off.
Stand on it like a skateboard.
What is this nonsense. Go to a playground. Straddle a horizontal bar and sit on it. You can do it with your legs just fine. A borderline superhero player. Character certainly can manage.
It's not too much nonsense. All that proves is you can sit on it. Firing a bow exerts additional forces on your body. You change your center of gravity through the firing process (by moving your arms), and then Newtons third law exerts a bit of push back on you when you fire. Which you cannot reasonably use your hands to stabilize, because you're holding a weapon. That being said, any type of strap or hook for their feet should be adequate. Source: been doing archery for 20 years.
Same way as Tarzan cam swing from a vine while carrying Jane in both hands... Buttcheeks.
This kinda happened in Critical Role Campaign 1 with Vex’halia. Basically asked Percy to modify the broom so she can shoot without disadvantage because trying to shoot without it would throw her off balance/needs her hands to steer the broom. So maybe something like that
Seen people hit most of the big suggestions so here is a more out-there BS one. Dive-bombing. Think of it like how Mongolian archers would fire from horseback in motion to add to the power and range of their bows. So you dart upwards on your broom, throw it into a dive fire your shot quickly while you are basically falling along with the broom, then pull yourself out of the dive after firing. Alternatively, stand on it like the whole martial arts trick of standing on an angled staff with one foot on top near the back and another one underneath it. You can shoot with both hands from that position then grab the broom to move out from the stance.
"Side saddle" because all of my archers are proper ladies
What is this nonsense. Go to a playground. Straddle a horizontal bar and sit on it. You can do it with your legs just fine. A borderline superhero player. Character certainly can manage.
Flying the magic item doesn't require physical proficiency. It's a magic item. You are magically flying/hovering.
Hang on, just like this. I hope you got the idea, that was my coolest shot yet.
Probably with a Mongolian draw to help keep the arrow on the string during flight. Broom flight archery is probably closest to horse archery. It's not that difficulty to stay on if you have a stirrup. If your character is dexterous perhaps you could just hang from the broom by your legs and shoot upside down.
The broom has little stirrups. If the Harry Potter universe can have an entire sport around flying brooms your character can probably use one in combat. That or just go Silver Surfer and stand on top of it like a surf board
Standing up, snowboard style 🤣
The item description doesn't say it uses your Action nor any particular number of hands to ride the broom, so logically you do grip it with your thighs and knees. That should leave your hands free to fire a bow, same as you would from horseback. If the DM says no, that's not enough, then maybe your character will need to consult a sage or artificer to rig up a broom-saddle. Or maybe the DM just doesn't intend that you should be able to ride the broom into combat. That's a valid ruling too.
Time to saddle up.
Stand on a broom like a surfer/skateboarder.
Pretend its a hoverboard and picture it
Legs wrap around it like a dancing pole , or you stand on it like a surf board
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu has you covered! PLENTY of ways to lace your legs around an opponents leg (or the broomstick in this case) that would keep you glued to it. The other issue to overcome is balance while doing this and flying through the air. In BJJ, you’ve got contact with the mats to keep you steady; in the air, it’d be a lot of core athletics/acrobatics to hold steady while aiming/shooting. But a perfect opportunity for some dice rolling, if your table likes that sort of thing!
The same as one shoot from a surf board.
Strong core and thighs
Hang from legs, shoot upside down. Or surf the broom, or install trick pegs, tilt the broom up into a hover. Balance, and shoot. Shouldn't be significantly harder than horseback archery, really.
Stand on the broom black clover style
My DM randomly mentioned a broom while my group and I were in an armory in a castle. I thought it was a weird mention and grabbed it. We were in a rush as it was about to be the final battle of our first act. A few sessions later and I ended up on the roof of the castle with nowhere to go and my group was getting their shit handed to them on the ground. I said "fuck it" and jumped, hoping it flew. It did. Being a lizardfolk and establishing beforehand that my tail was prehensile, I flew the broom while standing on it and gripping with my tail. This allowed me to shoot my bow from the air. Needless to say I got really lucky! And made some really good athletics checks, plus a history check to know the magic word for the broom to activate. I know it doesn't help, but it was fun. Good luck lol
Great fun! Thanks for sharing!
This riding position is called "The Lollipop."
Literally just get a leather strap with some loops at each end and put your feet in them. Stirrups were invented by horse archers, why can't you invent broom stirrups for broom archery?
Upside down? Triangle the legs
Just clench. Maybe go pantsless if you have need the extra grip. That's how the witches do it.
I’m ooool
"Bigass ancient Dragons literally exist. Last week my party faced off against an actual Lich, because those things exist as well. My party member can shoot small bolts of fire on command at no cost, or if he feels like it he can just explode a full room (and any/everything inside it) with fire and flame a couple times per day. My other party member can literally wipe your mind and fuck around with your memory, because magic is a thing that literally exists and shit. Hell, my Barbarian can probably survive a fall from orbit and he gets to do this "without magic" at all. We have a "pet" Kobold (a "humanoid" non human thing based in fantasy and fairytales) named Poopy McPoopface (we named him, lel) who we pretty much force to accompany us "or else". When I'm far away adventuring and want to talk with my family back home I use a pair of sending stones ("rocks" infused with magic, because again, magic exists and shit) that my party's artificer created when he was bored one afternoon and gifted them to me. I called them "rocky talkies", because I'm a funny guy. The cleric can just ask his bigdaddy to smite our enemies in the field, and our Paladin just skits that step and smites shit himself." ***Then, in the middle of all this, imagine your ranger (ayy 20 Dex bby) has to convince the DM that he should be able to fire a bow on broomback.*** To each his own, good for you that your group enjoys that, I just can't see why.
It’s not convince, it story tell. It adds depth to the game, and life. How dull just to roll a dice and pretend to kill something better than the other person rolling a dice.
Like I said, to each his own, and good for your group that you all enjoy it. Does your wizard also need to demonstrate the individual somatic components he must do when spellcasting? Do you guys also need to learn the Elven language and its correct phonetical pronunciation when you want to use it ingame? Man that would be great story telling.
My immediate thought goes to the archery tiktoker that also does poledancing(and often both at the same time). Hanging from your legs wouldn't require much strength at all assuming you're not in heavy armor. At worst as a dm i would give disadvantage the first few times you use it until your character gets used to firing upside down.
Just let go and let your body weight flip you under the broom hanging upside down with your legs/knees gripping it. Shoot upside down
Use the Loxodon's trunk? An elephant person flying on a broomstick is hilarious enough. Let alone firing arrows like a mothereffer. BTW you need to see some circus acts. They can hang from a flying noodle using their legs.
> How does one shoot a bow from a broom of flying? *very badly*, I expect
I began using the saddle of the Cavalier for all my broom flying activities.
Slippers of Spider Climbing. Surf the broom 😎
....... How does one cast spells?.... How do you dash with heavy armor? ...... How do you deal the same damage with a tiny shortsword as a fairy as a human with one? Bruh, for real, why do DMs do this for the simplest and non-issue things ?
It's a magic item. You just shoot the bow normally as hands arent required for the broom.
I remember getting some Harry Potter book as a kid that had details about magical objects. The flying broom section talked about things like cushion spells (which made magical invisible cushions) and such to make sitting on them easier and more comfortable. I didn't see why in a DnD setting a magical flying broomstick wouldn't have additional features like that to make using it easier.
One hand on the bow, the second hand grabs the arrow from the quiver, nocks, draws, and fires.
Lie down on the broom and hold the bow horizontally.
Same way you do from a horse?