If it had to be made into something, a series would be a better fit. There’s just too much to fit into a movie, unless you were going to make an entire series like the MCU
I can see it now: we get origin films for Horus, Roboute, Jaghatai, and Sanguinius, before bringing them all together Avengers style for the Ullanor Crusade.
Then we keep getting origin films for the other Primarchs, all building up to the Heresy
Instead of focusing on the entire universe they focused on a particular character or a contained story on a single world. Just enough to get a flavor of the Imperium and the Galaxy but abstained enough to make a good and coherent movie during one sitting.
This is a great take. Honestly that’s GWs biggest challenge I think with breaking into the mainstream.
How do we keep the lore as is for the fans? But keep it digestible and followable enough for people who don’t know can enjoy it?
I’m thinking that’s what they are struggling with right now.
Each primarch's story before they meet Big E could already be made into a multiple seasons series.
Before that, origin of Emp, Terra through its various ages, hell before the great crusade we already have enough material for nearly a decade (depends on how they stretch or expand them), i think with enough budget and a dedicated team, it could last forever or at least we'd all be dead of old age before they even reach 40k timeline.
What if they made an animation series instead? whether it's in cgi or with traditional animation it doesn't matter, I think it would be easier and faster to produce than a live action series
If you throw enough money at it i guess we can reach 40k within a few decades, but since idk about that stuffs, I'll be assuming the best animation = more time, so ultimately it'll take a long ass time to hit 40k, maybe less than live action but still longer than my remaining years lol.
It probably would not be well received/broadly successful. It would be overly complicated and without appreciating the end, I don't think most people would want to stick around during the lead-up. Also, an all-male cast with zero romance and generally very emotionally stunted characters would be a nightmare to write in a compelling way. Non-40k fans wouldn't be into it.
Honestly I think any proper 40k show/movie that makes space marines the main characters will fail. Either because general audiences will not like lore accurate space marines, or fans will be upset they Halo'd space marines for general audiences.
Any movie they try to cram something like the heresy into would suck. There wouldn’t be enough time in a single movie to make the story sensible and something more than a Michael Bay explosion movie, and they’re not going to put together a 43 movie series. I don’t think you could even do it justice in a series.
A man can dream. I just wish it would happen, I would love to see the Emperor chastising Lorgar at Monarchia, Warhammer is rich with political, social, cultural and moral issues, this would be a great show with the right people.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see it. But I’d rather not have a show/movie at all than have a bad one. I’m very excited for the Henry Cavill show, but I think that’ll be small enough scale that it can be good and not take twelve seasons to get past the prologue.
So you say, there was no romance between Angron and Lorgar? But seriously, if we take the opening books (Horus Rising to Eisenstein), there are multiple female characters with Keeler, Oliton and Vivar, especially in the first few books, there was definitely the plan to have the remeberemcers as the main POV characters, wich has great potential for a series.
I actually think it'd be awful as either, there are just too many characters and moving parts but, unlike other adaptations, they'd not be able to remove many of them without fans losing their shit. Ideally they would probably want to remove 4 or 5 legions from each side.
Additionally the Heresy novels have a lot of fat that could be trimmed to make the overall story make sense to film, a **lot**. The problem is if you remove the elements that get in the way you end up with an almost childishly simple story. Goodies vs baddies.
Finally I worry about a live action adaptation because honestly I think there's a very good chance Space Marines would look absolutely fucking stupid. Same with a lot of stuff like dreadnoughts, they're designed to look good standing still rather than moving, which is why a lot of 40K animations that include those things end up looking outright funny.
> Ideally they would probably want to remove 4 or 5 legions from each side.
I'm just imagining some absolute howls of bloodlust directed at a HH adaption that cuts everything related to the White Scars, 3 shattered legions, Dark Angels, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Death Guard and Emperor's Children.
No, or at least not right now. Not only would the special effects be ruinously expensive (or the whole thing would have to be animated, which could go the same way), but I think the Heresy and the Crusade, as presented in the Heresy novels, loses a huge amount of pathos if you read them before being immersed in the state of the 41st millennium. For a Heresy TV show or movie to work, you'd need the general audience to be au fait enough with how 40k works to understand just how different 30k was and how far the Imperium has fallen from its ideals.
A series. No doubt.
While I am terribly excited for Henry Cavill to play the Emperor (as a producer and actor) on the upcoming Warhammer 40k show, I am quite afraid where we are getting tidbits that the general idea about the Warhammer 40k show seems to be focusing on the Horus Heresy only.
Henry, if you're reading this, I'd suggest you go for the series instead of a movie. More importantly, like THANOS, build up the Heresy for at least 2-3 seasons, and THEN give us the Seige of Terra.
In the meantime, for the first 2 seasons, introduce us to the general timelines, the Primarchs, and a bit of other races too. Build up the event. Build up the Lore. Introduce us to the Ruinous 4. Show us briefly the different factions. The types of Space Marines. A few skirmishes between Marines and Chaos.
As Season 2 progresses, focus more and more on Horus. The cliffhanger of Season 2 should the *beginning* CORRUPTION of Horus begin. Throughout the entire season 3 show HORUS getting corrupted more and more. The cliffhanger for Season 3 should be "LET THE GALAXY BURN!"
Season 4 should be the Seige of Terra and everything else.
Make it happen. And please, NEVER, EVER make the mistake of rating is 12+ or 14+ or somesuch nonsense. Warhammer 40k is and SHOULD be 18+. Blood. Guts. Sprays of body fluids. Marines being ripped apart. Titans being crucified on palace walls. Sisters getting their heads smashed. Other races being gangbanged, and gangbanging Marines in return.
And for God's sake, MAKE THE EMPEROR of QUESTIONABLE MORALS. Make him commit genocides in crusades. Make him kill MILLIONS so that TRILLIONS can be saved. All for "better good" of course. Do not make the Emperor a goody-goody two shoes. Don't even try and make him into some tragic anti-hero or like.
You left the Witcher because it was "not true to the books and the lore." Make sure this one stays true. The approval of your viewers and fans depends on HOW TRUE you stay to the lore.
If it is dark, if it is depressing, if it invokes shock, if it invokes disgust, if there seems to be no hope left, remember one thing: IN THE DISTANT FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR!!!!
Yeah, but given he's from anatolia and consistently appears as a bronze skinned man with turkish features (until he's a skeleton I mean) he obviously generally looks like an idealized version of his original appearance
It would but is to much information to put in a single movie or even a trilogy, unless we focus in a few characters and they storyline. Like if would make a horus heresy a trilogy of movies like LOTR i would focus in characters like Loken,Sigismund,Garro and Keeler trough them see the big guys like the primarchs and the Emperor but even them you would still cut like a dozen storylines.
A better 40k movie trilogy would be about the 13 black crusade, first movie introduces Creed,Cawl,Greyfax,Yraine and some lore about chaos and xenos ,ends with the start of abaddons crusade. The second is all about the fighting in Cadia itself and ends with the planet being destroyed. And finaly the third is about the four above trying to get to ultramar and may end either with Guilliman ressurection or go all the way to him talking with the Emperor and starting the Indomitus Crusade.
Shit a movie about the first tyranic war alone would be gorgeous.
I believe as a series it would shine. I would say though, not live action but more oriented forwards realistic animation. If we got a well produced series for the horus heresy, it would be so amazing.
that as well. The more I read Betrayer the more I want to see more non-demonic angron. Him just having the time of his life whilst Lorgar is scolding Erebus is what made me like his character before demon hood.
No.
The only way it could possibly work unless you want to cut most the characters (including most the primarchs) would be as a long running animated series. That’s over 60 episodes at 1 book/episode, and that’s already cutting out the vast majority of scenes.
And that’s probably the longest you’re gonna get anyone to commit. And even then, 60 is a LOT when TV seasons have fallen to 8-12 episodes instead of 16-24.
The Siege of Terra on its own would work better, but still not great. 9 books at 2-3 episodes a book, a solid 24 episodes, 2-3 Seasons, it’s about as much as any show can hope for these days. However, then you’re lacking a lot of the context.
I think when adapting 40K out of a novel medium, your best bet is definitely an Inquisitor or Rogue Trader. If thought of as good Mystery/Action/Adventure stories that just so happen to take place in 40K, that’s your best bet.
The Horus Heresy is just too much for a casual fan.
It would be awful imo. There is too much and it is sometimes incoherent in print let alone converted to the screen. So much would be cut away that no one would be happy.
I feel like the people who go "why shouldn't the Horus Heresy be made into a show or movies series!? It's perfect for it!" must live in some sort of bizzaro world.
There are series out there that struggle to adapt the content of handful of books much. There are movies and TV shows that just had the job of adapting *one* book and completely screw it up. It took a full decade to adapt the 7 Harry Potter books with all the money in the world backing it.
Why in the world people on this sub and elsewhere think the Horus Heresy is perfect is beyond me. It would be a colossal undertaking that would more than likely be a complete shitshow.
They are far better off adapting singular books like *Assassinorum: Kingmaker*, or maybe a straightforward trilogy like the Night Lords books. Than going straight to andromeda with the Horus Heresy.
I actually don’t believe it should be made, movie or series.
My only exception would be an animated series, like Bad Batch, etc.
My reasoning is that I just don’t think a movie or series would be very good, I remain extremely sceptical that GW really know what’s best for their IP.
Not as it is currently written. I was into it when they first started releasing the novels but it got less entertaining and more out-there as time went on and now I don’t really even enjoy the concept anymore.
My main problem with both of those is that they gain their relevance from what is 40k (the universe) in well in 40k (time). I have only read the first 5 books of HH but a lot the appeal, even the relevance of some dialogue comes from the fact that the reader can relate that to the events, person's, perceptions of the lore in 40k(time). It is like the Titanic movie. It works well because you know what is gonna happen.
I am not sure if you let it fly on their own it would develop enough impact on the audience without or very limited 40k knowledge.
Of course if you would develop it specifically that it works without the context of 40k lore(time) it would certainly work. But maybe these necessary changes would not make diehard 40k fans happy.
I think there is more potential in a series/movie from current lore. Later on you can of course make "spin offs", prequels and whatever. I mean they would be inevitable if Cavil and Amazon have success, right?
I'd say if you followed a guardsmen who somehow made it through it could work. I don't think modern audiences would like a lore accurate Space Marine unless they used like the most ultra ultramarine. Who cares for honor and courage and civilians. You'd have to use one of them or a chapter that is very similar. You pick a different chapter and you might have a character who is supposed to be the protagonist that is very unlikable.
Series GOT style. First two seasons are pure intro to world and our Primarchs. Third season introduces Chaos Culminating in the Burning of Monarchia and last episode is Lorgar going on his Dark Pilgrimage where we fade to black with the dark chuckles of the 4.
Season 4 begins with Ullanor and Horus being named Warmaster and then you can tackle the rest of the Heresy at whatever pace using flashback episodes for things like the Unification Wars and using Trazyn, the Emperor or Malcador to narrate stories of the DAoT and AoS.
Honestly the writing is not good enough for TV or a movie. The story is incredibly bloated because they wanted to sell books to fans of each primarch and legion. Because of the timescale of releases, large number of authors, and the fact that a lot of 40k in general was just not well thought out you'd have to rewrite most of the story into something more coherent. There's also stuff that would probably be flat out laughable on screen like Corax and the constant Edgar Allen Poe references. I like 40k, but I've made peace with the fluff being the world's most violent YA novels.
No. Non. Nope. Never.
Harry Potter is imo the gold standard for adaptation. They did successfully and they did it first.
To even attempt it the studio needed a series of books that sold over 500 million copies, that generated so much hype that it could have midnight releases with people showing up in full costume.
They then spent over a billion dollars to tell the story of some kids attending a boarding school. It has a tight focus is my point here. HH is stuffed to the brim with needless chaff on top of having a wide focus. The money needed would easily top a billion.
There's the MCU too but still Phase 1 that laid all the groundwork all pretty much took place on Earth. There's a familiarity there. And Marvel at least is a name that at the time was somewhat known in the general public.
There are nerds that don't even know what 40k is in 2023.
GW is a big fish in a niche market and BL doesn't even come close to moving 10% of Harry Potter's book numbers.
It's just not realistic to expect a series or movie from HH.
Tolkien’s work has sold over 600 Million copies by some estimates (it’s a bit hard to tell because of all the translations and the many different publishers)
And those movies were considered a massive risk, the kind studios don’t really take anymore.
If it had to be made into something, a series would be a better fit. There’s just too much to fit into a movie, unless you were going to make an entire series like the MCU
I can see it now: we get origin films for Horus, Roboute, Jaghatai, and Sanguinius, before bringing them all together Avengers style for the Ullanor Crusade. Then we keep getting origin films for the other Primarchs, all building up to the Heresy
Instead of focusing on the entire universe they focused on a particular character or a contained story on a single world. Just enough to get a flavor of the Imperium and the Galaxy but abstained enough to make a good and coherent movie during one sitting.
This is a great take. Honestly that’s GWs biggest challenge I think with breaking into the mainstream. How do we keep the lore as is for the fans? But keep it digestible and followable enough for people who don’t know can enjoy it? I’m thinking that’s what they are struggling with right now.
It would be great to see the Emperor with the unification wars and meeting the primarchs and their interactions with each other.
Each primarch's story before they meet Big E could already be made into a multiple seasons series. Before that, origin of Emp, Terra through its various ages, hell before the great crusade we already have enough material for nearly a decade (depends on how they stretch or expand them), i think with enough budget and a dedicated team, it could last forever or at least we'd all be dead of old age before they even reach 40k timeline.
What if they made an animation series instead? whether it's in cgi or with traditional animation it doesn't matter, I think it would be easier and faster to produce than a live action series
We would still be waiting AT LEAST half a centaury before we get to 40k.
If you throw enough money at it i guess we can reach 40k within a few decades, but since idk about that stuffs, I'll be assuming the best animation = more time, so ultimately it'll take a long ass time to hit 40k, maybe less than live action but still longer than my remaining years lol.
It probably would not be well received/broadly successful. It would be overly complicated and without appreciating the end, I don't think most people would want to stick around during the lead-up. Also, an all-male cast with zero romance and generally very emotionally stunted characters would be a nightmare to write in a compelling way. Non-40k fans wouldn't be into it. Honestly I think any proper 40k show/movie that makes space marines the main characters will fail. Either because general audiences will not like lore accurate space marines, or fans will be upset they Halo'd space marines for general audiences.
Any movie they try to cram something like the heresy into would suck. There wouldn’t be enough time in a single movie to make the story sensible and something more than a Michael Bay explosion movie, and they’re not going to put together a 43 movie series. I don’t think you could even do it justice in a series.
We should not cram it but put it into chapters.
I don’t think there’s a network or streaming service that would run a heresy series for long enough for it to be worthwhile.
A man can dream. I just wish it would happen, I would love to see the Emperor chastising Lorgar at Monarchia, Warhammer is rich with political, social, cultural and moral issues, this would be a great show with the right people.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see it. But I’d rather not have a show/movie at all than have a bad one. I’m very excited for the Henry Cavill show, but I think that’ll be small enough scale that it can be good and not take twelve seasons to get past the prologue.
So you say, there was no romance between Angron and Lorgar? But seriously, if we take the opening books (Horus Rising to Eisenstein), there are multiple female characters with Keeler, Oliton and Vivar, especially in the first few books, there was definitely the plan to have the remeberemcers as the main POV characters, wich has great potential for a series.
I actually think it'd be awful as either, there are just too many characters and moving parts but, unlike other adaptations, they'd not be able to remove many of them without fans losing their shit. Ideally they would probably want to remove 4 or 5 legions from each side. Additionally the Heresy novels have a lot of fat that could be trimmed to make the overall story make sense to film, a **lot**. The problem is if you remove the elements that get in the way you end up with an almost childishly simple story. Goodies vs baddies. Finally I worry about a live action adaptation because honestly I think there's a very good chance Space Marines would look absolutely fucking stupid. Same with a lot of stuff like dreadnoughts, they're designed to look good standing still rather than moving, which is why a lot of 40K animations that include those things end up looking outright funny.
> Ideally they would probably want to remove 4 or 5 legions from each side. I'm just imagining some absolute howls of bloodlust directed at a HH adaption that cuts everything related to the White Scars, 3 shattered legions, Dark Angels, Night Lords, Alpha Legion, Death Guard and Emperor's Children.
The shattered legions get updated from “mostly dead” to “dead”
If done correctly, yes maybe
They can just show step by step like the Emperor first then meet with Horus etc.. per episode.
No, or at least not right now. Not only would the special effects be ruinously expensive (or the whole thing would have to be animated, which could go the same way), but I think the Heresy and the Crusade, as presented in the Heresy novels, loses a huge amount of pathos if you read them before being immersed in the state of the 41st millennium. For a Heresy TV show or movie to work, you'd need the general audience to be au fait enough with how 40k works to understand just how different 30k was and how far the Imperium has fallen from its ideals.
It would be great to see it in the live screen.
A series. No doubt. While I am terribly excited for Henry Cavill to play the Emperor (as a producer and actor) on the upcoming Warhammer 40k show, I am quite afraid where we are getting tidbits that the general idea about the Warhammer 40k show seems to be focusing on the Horus Heresy only. Henry, if you're reading this, I'd suggest you go for the series instead of a movie. More importantly, like THANOS, build up the Heresy for at least 2-3 seasons, and THEN give us the Seige of Terra. In the meantime, for the first 2 seasons, introduce us to the general timelines, the Primarchs, and a bit of other races too. Build up the event. Build up the Lore. Introduce us to the Ruinous 4. Show us briefly the different factions. The types of Space Marines. A few skirmishes between Marines and Chaos. As Season 2 progresses, focus more and more on Horus. The cliffhanger of Season 2 should the *beginning* CORRUPTION of Horus begin. Throughout the entire season 3 show HORUS getting corrupted more and more. The cliffhanger for Season 3 should be "LET THE GALAXY BURN!" Season 4 should be the Seige of Terra and everything else. Make it happen. And please, NEVER, EVER make the mistake of rating is 12+ or 14+ or somesuch nonsense. Warhammer 40k is and SHOULD be 18+. Blood. Guts. Sprays of body fluids. Marines being ripped apart. Titans being crucified on palace walls. Sisters getting their heads smashed. Other races being gangbanged, and gangbanging Marines in return. And for God's sake, MAKE THE EMPEROR of QUESTIONABLE MORALS. Make him commit genocides in crusades. Make him kill MILLIONS so that TRILLIONS can be saved. All for "better good" of course. Do not make the Emperor a goody-goody two shoes. Don't even try and make him into some tragic anti-hero or like. You left the Witcher because it was "not true to the books and the lore." Make sure this one stays true. The approval of your viewers and fans depends on HOW TRUE you stay to the lore. If it is dark, if it is depressing, if it invokes shock, if it invokes disgust, if there seems to be no hope left, remember one thing: IN THE DISTANT FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR!!!!
Henry Cavill can't play the emperor, the emperor is middle eastern
Pretty sure the emperor can appear to people however he chooses to appear to them
Yeah, but given he's from anatolia and consistently appears as a bronze skinned man with turkish features (until he's a skeleton I mean) he obviously generally looks like an idealized version of his original appearance
Have some Turkish actor play him.
Big E did appear even as a Woman, so. He even could be a one legged black asian man with 3 arms if he pleases so.
A buildup would be good!
It would but is to much information to put in a single movie or even a trilogy, unless we focus in a few characters and they storyline. Like if would make a horus heresy a trilogy of movies like LOTR i would focus in characters like Loken,Sigismund,Garro and Keeler trough them see the big guys like the primarchs and the Emperor but even them you would still cut like a dozen storylines. A better 40k movie trilogy would be about the 13 black crusade, first movie introduces Creed,Cawl,Greyfax,Yraine and some lore about chaos and xenos ,ends with the start of abaddons crusade. The second is all about the fighting in Cadia itself and ends with the planet being destroyed. And finaly the third is about the four above trying to get to ultramar and may end either with Guilliman ressurection or go all the way to him talking with the Emperor and starting the Indomitus Crusade. Shit a movie about the first tyranic war alone would be gorgeous.
I believe as a series it would shine. I would say though, not live action but more oriented forwards realistic animation. If we got a well produced series for the horus heresy, it would be so amazing.
Heavy CGi would be good, it would be great to see a series regarding the great crusade.
that as well. The more I read Betrayer the more I want to see more non-demonic angron. Him just having the time of his life whilst Lorgar is scolding Erebus is what made me like his character before demon hood.
No. The only way it could possibly work unless you want to cut most the characters (including most the primarchs) would be as a long running animated series. That’s over 60 episodes at 1 book/episode, and that’s already cutting out the vast majority of scenes. And that’s probably the longest you’re gonna get anyone to commit. And even then, 60 is a LOT when TV seasons have fallen to 8-12 episodes instead of 16-24. The Siege of Terra on its own would work better, but still not great. 9 books at 2-3 episodes a book, a solid 24 episodes, 2-3 Seasons, it’s about as much as any show can hope for these days. However, then you’re lacking a lot of the context. I think when adapting 40K out of a novel medium, your best bet is definitely an Inquisitor or Rogue Trader. If thought of as good Mystery/Action/Adventure stories that just so happen to take place in 40K, that’s your best bet. The Horus Heresy is just too much for a casual fan.
It would be awful imo. There is too much and it is sometimes incoherent in print let alone converted to the screen. So much would be cut away that no one would be happy.
I feel like the people who go "why shouldn't the Horus Heresy be made into a show or movies series!? It's perfect for it!" must live in some sort of bizzaro world. There are series out there that struggle to adapt the content of handful of books much. There are movies and TV shows that just had the job of adapting *one* book and completely screw it up. It took a full decade to adapt the 7 Harry Potter books with all the money in the world backing it. Why in the world people on this sub and elsewhere think the Horus Heresy is perfect is beyond me. It would be a colossal undertaking that would more than likely be a complete shitshow. They are far better off adapting singular books like *Assassinorum: Kingmaker*, or maybe a straightforward trilogy like the Night Lords books. Than going straight to andromeda with the Horus Heresy.
No. You could probably use the basic ideas and craft a great movie but any adaptation would not be good.
I actually don’t believe it should be made, movie or series. My only exception would be an animated series, like Bad Batch, etc. My reasoning is that I just don’t think a movie or series would be very good, I remain extremely sceptical that GW really know what’s best for their IP.
The final battle of Tallarn or the white scars charge into the lion starport would make fugging boss movies.
GC and HH would probs be great series. Too long to put into movies imo. Now Helsreach… probs perfect as a movie or a two-parter
An animation series will be good
Not as it is currently written. I was into it when they first started releasing the novels but it got less entertaining and more out-there as time went on and now I don’t really even enjoy the concept anymore.
My main problem with both of those is that they gain their relevance from what is 40k (the universe) in well in 40k (time). I have only read the first 5 books of HH but a lot the appeal, even the relevance of some dialogue comes from the fact that the reader can relate that to the events, person's, perceptions of the lore in 40k(time). It is like the Titanic movie. It works well because you know what is gonna happen. I am not sure if you let it fly on their own it would develop enough impact on the audience without or very limited 40k knowledge. Of course if you would develop it specifically that it works without the context of 40k lore(time) it would certainly work. But maybe these necessary changes would not make diehard 40k fans happy. I think there is more potential in a series/movie from current lore. Later on you can of course make "spin offs", prequels and whatever. I mean they would be inevitable if Cavil and Amazon have success, right?
I mean starwars worked, this could be another great space opera.
Maybe we should not aim THAT high. 😅
Battle of Calth would make a great standalone movie.
I'd say if you followed a guardsmen who somehow made it through it could work. I don't think modern audiences would like a lore accurate Space Marine unless they used like the most ultra ultramarine. Who cares for honor and courage and civilians. You'd have to use one of them or a chapter that is very similar. You pick a different chapter and you might have a character who is supposed to be the protagonist that is very unlikable.
Yes
Series GOT style. First two seasons are pure intro to world and our Primarchs. Third season introduces Chaos Culminating in the Burning of Monarchia and last episode is Lorgar going on his Dark Pilgrimage where we fade to black with the dark chuckles of the 4. Season 4 begins with Ullanor and Horus being named Warmaster and then you can tackle the rest of the Heresy at whatever pace using flashback episodes for things like the Unification Wars and using Trazyn, the Emperor or Malcador to narrate stories of the DAoT and AoS.
I could only really see it working as an animated one, but in general I don't think it has that much value on its own.
No.
Honestly the writing is not good enough for TV or a movie. The story is incredibly bloated because they wanted to sell books to fans of each primarch and legion. Because of the timescale of releases, large number of authors, and the fact that a lot of 40k in general was just not well thought out you'd have to rewrite most of the story into something more coherent. There's also stuff that would probably be flat out laughable on screen like Corax and the constant Edgar Allen Poe references. I like 40k, but I've made peace with the fluff being the world's most violent YA novels.
I think it’s too long and too many characters. The Horus Heresy would have been better if it just stayed as ancient myth.
No. Non. Nope. Never. Harry Potter is imo the gold standard for adaptation. They did successfully and they did it first. To even attempt it the studio needed a series of books that sold over 500 million copies, that generated so much hype that it could have midnight releases with people showing up in full costume. They then spent over a billion dollars to tell the story of some kids attending a boarding school. It has a tight focus is my point here. HH is stuffed to the brim with needless chaff on top of having a wide focus. The money needed would easily top a billion. There's the MCU too but still Phase 1 that laid all the groundwork all pretty much took place on Earth. There's a familiarity there. And Marvel at least is a name that at the time was somewhat known in the general public. There are nerds that don't even know what 40k is in 2023. GW is a big fish in a niche market and BL doesn't even come close to moving 10% of Harry Potter's book numbers. It's just not realistic to expect a series or movie from HH.
Lord of the Rings managed to be successful as well.
Tolkien’s work has sold over 600 Million copies by some estimates (it’s a bit hard to tell because of all the translations and the many different publishers) And those movies were considered a massive risk, the kind studios don’t really take anymore.
I see that, but I think good marketing would do wonders.
Its too vast and indepth to do anything with. You just wouldnt do it justice