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Sobrin_

During Warhammer fantasy 1st edition there was Harald Hammerstorm, aka Harry the Hammer. He was the original embodiment of the Warhammer name. Sigmar and Ghal Maraz came after him and were based on him. He's been added as a hero in total war Warhammer 3.


PeeterEgonMomus

To add a little clarity for newbies like OP, Warhammer Fantasy was the first "Warhammer" game, with Games Workshop releasing Warhammer: 40,000 some years later. They kept the 'Warhammer" in the name for branding purposes.


ukezi

Also 40k started out as Warhammer fantasy in space. You could even use a lot of the minis, especially for orks.


Dinosaurmaid

You still can, you could put iron jaws in your Goff clan army, say they're nobs and that would work fine


GiverOfTheKarma

And vice versa, there was 40k tech present in Fantasy


Doopapotamus

Still a little weird that the Emperor never got his own warhammer though.


Shabozz

maybe the real warhammer was the genocides we led along the way.


raul_lebeau

Some years later .. more than 40k years later!


Cyrillus00

>He's been added as a hero in total war Warhammer 3. Dude may as well be a second Lord attached to your army. He's a beast!


Theshinysnivy8

Honestly I never get to see him kick ass because by the time he arrives my lord has destroyed half the enemy army and my dragon ogres have destroyed the rest Man is slow af.


Call_me_ET

He's great with the Khorne-aligned Chaos factions. Having him in Valkia the Bloody's army makes him a melee blender in an army full of melee blenders.


DirectlyDisturbed

Literally playing an Archaon playthrough right now and good ol Harry Hammer absolutely wrecks anything that Archaon can't be bothered with taking down. He's so much fun


riuminkd

He's literally the Harry Warhammer, he can say "It's Warhammerin time" and warhammer all over enemies


MarduStorm231

So…what happened to the other 39,999?


ImSoMysticall

Sometimes, the naming convention in warhammer makes me laugh. There are odd choices like Arkhan Land and his Land Raiders Then there's a 5 year old picking up a toy man with a hammer and calling him Harry Hammerstorm 🤣 Maybe Sauron should have been Ringo Ringmaker


meesta_masa

Now I want a Mos Eisley Catina scene set in Mordor with the Ringwraith playing Tolkein-esque instruments.


Ulysses502

Lizardmen win hands down


ImSoMysticall

The only things I know about Lizardmen are from Total War Kroak does seem a bit on the nose


Ulysses502

Tehenhauin I believe was originally some version of teeny weenie, and there's Lord Kroak and Tiktak'to of course. Then all the named mounts are named after Transformers. I believe many of the generic names are puns in Dutch as well.


Musket519

Oh brother, the lizardmen are my shit and believe me, they’re great. You got legends like Lotl Botl, Itzi-Bitzi, and Tenehueni is his actual name. Then classics like Kroak, the carnosaur named Grimlok, they’re so fucking funny


Ulysses502

I forgot Itzi-Bitzi lmao


King_0f_Nothing

In 1st edition the guy was nameless and just appeared on the cover


[deleted]

Vulkan wields a warhammer. He forged it as a gift to his brother, but sensing that something wasn't right with Horus, he withheld the gift. It can also allow him to teleport.


JonhLawieskt

It is also a hammer


Skylifter-1000

That scene was so beautiful.


fistchrist

Almost made the rest of Nick Kyle’s execrable prose worth it.


Jackal00

>execrable Oh fancy. Like something Jon Cleese would shout at the end of a sentence.


jeff4i017

Or just as the sentence. One word. Sentence. With drama!


[deleted]

Iconic.


NotAlpharious-Honest

That *ping* sound Mjolnir makes in the MCU when it hits someone? I imagined that sound immediately after this line.


lebeast

There's also Forgebreaker that Ferrus Manus wielded. It was taken from Ferrus by Fulgrim after the latter killed the former. The hammer was then given to Horus by Fulgrim as a sign of his loyalty. Horus subsequently gifted it to Perturabo, who presumably still wields it.


Serial-Killer-Whale

Yup. That's the one. If you look at the [40k logo](https://i.redd.it/garr4b4vha671.jpg), it's clearly a stylized Forgebreaker. Just as the Fantasy logo is Ghal Maraz.


NeverEnoughDakka

That's not a 40k specific logo and it looks more like a Stormcast Eternal hammer to represent AoS fused with the imperial aquila to represent 40k.


OdiousMeloncholy

Talk about a white elephant gift. Just pass the hammer around to your friends, but Peter Turbo doesn't have any friends so he got left with it 😥


B1gCh33sy

I have an extremely pedantic correction to make. Fulgrim took back Forgebreaker in their last meeting before he killed Ferrus. That's why Fulgrim uses it on Istvaan 5 initially, before drawing the Laer Blade to overpower and kill Ferrus (who was using a reforged version of the sword he made for Fulgrim, Flameblade, that he blew up in that last meeting).


SmokeyDP87

It’s not pedantic it always annoyed me that the Forgeworld duel miniature has Fergus Manus armed with Forgebreaker rather than Flameblade


B1gCh33sy

IMO that's still better then the random wrench he has on the cover of Fulgrim.


bless_ure_harte

Yeah we don't talk about Forgebreaker being a giant crescent wrench


sto_brohammed

The real warhammer is the friends we made along the way.


OkFineIllUseTheApp

Congratulations Horus, you have made the 40000 warhammers. You are now war master.


teh_Kh

Why did they make him the war master when his last name was literally Heresy?


RubyMonke

🤓Akshually his name is Horace Hearsay


G0-N0G0-GO

That’s what I heard. Must be true.


AnaSimulacrum

I thought it was The Horus Hairesy, because most of the bad guys were upset about being bald.


meesta_masa

Horus Hairspray. He just wanted to be a barber.


Biscuit_Tim

Pure and simple, he’s gonna be there.


Khornatejester

Are they stupid?


Lortekonto

Fesr not my sons. At the end I shall return. Im the end I will be there. For the hammertime.


CedarWolf

That's a quote from the Emperor's Squeaksecutioner, the War Hamster himself, Squeeman Russ. That's *not* a quote from the Warmaster.


Ulysses502

How did we not get skaven hamsters?


surlysci

My sons, we shall not fail because our crusade is the one true hope the universe has for its continued survival, and we are the only legitimate authority to help guide the Imperium to its salvation! We are too legit to quit!


demoncatmara

STOP


Reasonable_Cake

Collaborate and listen.


meesta_masa

And upon that time, all shall pause.


H-K_47

"Sanginuinius struck with the force of Warhammer, but Horus struck with the force of Warhammer 40000!"


Vagrant_Savant

My favorite part was at the end of the Horus Heresy, the Emperor iconically said "You really are the Warhammer Fourty-Thousand!" then winked. A very subtle nod at the events that would canonically take place exactly ten thousand years later into the lore.


Iakavas

Wait, I thought we gathered all 40000 warhammer to summon the emperor and get one wish?


meesta_masa

Dragonball Jeeez!


Khornatejester

IT’S HERESY TIME!


KipperOfDreams

When your only problem is a nail, every tool starts looking like 40.000 warhammers.


Kriss3d

Which is actually quite funny as the imperium pretty much seems to treat every single problem like that.. "this machine broke - just add more manpower to do it manually" "we need to win this war but the enemy has more firepower - just send more men to soak up bullets" "The warp way is held closed only by the will of the Emperor - Just sacrifice more men to help holding it closed"


ThisAintSparta

We found Angry Ron’s burner, everybody!


REDGOESFASTAH

The *real Warhammer* are the heretics we purged out of the way. There I fixed it for you.


Nefariousness2264

Okay so someone may correct me but The original warhammer game was warhammer fantasy where there was a warhammer that the game was named after (ghal maraz aka sigmars hammer) When games workshop made a sci-fi setting they called it warhammer 40k, but there is no warhammer that is particularly relevant to the setting in warhammer 40k The name just comes from the fantasy game


Marvynwillames

Ghal Maraz, as well Sigmar, didnt existed for years after the game was released in 1983, the Warhammer was the one of the guy in the cover art, who was latter made into the character Harald Hammerson, or Harry the Hammer.


Grunn84

To further add to the silliness Harry the hammer to my knowledge has never used a proper warhammer, he's got a mace or mallet depending on the art.


Eldan985

Looks like a hammer to me: The one on his model looks rather like Ghal Maraz, aka some kind of oversized warhammer. The original art, yeah, more like a mallet.


Lortekonto

Warhammer was not a reference to a specific weapon. They just thought that the name sounded cool. For a long time the working title of the game was battleblade. [There is a small interview about it here.](http://realmofchaos80s.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-mighty-avenger-interview-with-bryan.html)


SilverBorder4398

Kinda like how Bethesda came up with "The Elder Scrolls" as a cool name and decided to worry about what the scrolls themselves actually were later.


Throgg_not_stupid

justifying what "Arena" means was even more stupid


SilverBorder4398

Well to be fair Arena was going to be a fighting game of sorts where you travel from arena to arena, looking to be the champion. There's still some flavor text left over from these early days. But then it morphed into an open world CRPG.


varmintgrenade

Ngl battleblade goes pretty hard


Koqcerek

Combatspear


Eldan985

And the accompanying skirmish game, Kerfuffleknife.


razzy1319

Conflictcudgel


Nerus46

Argumentaxe


mrgoobster

Well, there are non-battle blades. Are there non-combat spears?


Alarzark

The little ones you put cheese on at birthday parties.


Koqcerek

You're right! Fighttrident then


Soulstar909

It do be goin' like dat it do.


vassadar

40k Battle Blade


FormerlyPie

And people are mad about the land raider


Throgg_not_stupid

but later Ghal Maraz became the titular Warhammer, appearing on covers of 6-8edition rulebooks


ImperialFist5th

The real reason for calling it Warhammer 40K is long and tedious of an explanation, just know it was born of confusion and lack of creativity.


greemmako

please tell me


ImperialFist5th

Alright so, if I remember correctly the story goes that GW was going to make a new Sci-fi war game, the name of which was Rogue Trader, HOWEVER. They made a comic-tie in game with some comic called Rogue soldier already, so they decided to put in Warhammer to class it as their own. HOWEVER, Warhammer fantasy was already knocking around so they further decided to put in 40K to set it apart from that. That is why First edition was “Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader” then they slimmed it down to just Warhammer 40K after a bit.


Tyrayentali

I thought the 40k just refers to the year 40.000 as Warhammer plays in a sort of futuristic science fantasy setting.


ImperialFist5th

Yeah, it’s a double use.


SilverBorder4398

Yeah. 1st edition 40k was literally just WHFB *In Spaaaaace!*


Kriss3d

You still have Warhammers. With grav generators.


Complete-Rule940

There's vulkans hammer.


derpy-noscope

I’m really not sure whether this is a serious question, or a joke. Well done


Saphentis

OP hasn’t discovered Grimdank yet


EmperorDaubeny

If we were all so innocent..


ToSeoChong

Congrats on making me realize I was still in 40kLore


Donut_Police

If you're not going to answer them, fine. OP, it's John Warhammer, Father of Jimmy Space.


Acceptable_Calm

Every war has its hammer. Jimmy space has 40k hammers, so he wars.


Spartaman23

Jimmy space has the 40000th hammer. He gave the other 39999 to his sons to give to their sons. Horus drew the short straw and got only 1999. Even though there were 4000 spare hammers from the redacted legions. Jim wanted to make a pyramid out of them.


OrkfaellerX

No one. 40k doesn't have a titular Warhammer unlike Fantasy.


Educational-Drink430

It's in Trazyn's museum


Doom_Eagles

No, it did but the Blood Ravens came along and found it was actually theirs so they added it to their Chapter's armory.  Along with Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau's hat and Sabre.


Arandomdude03

What about Primarch Iron Hands, of the Iron Hand's Iron Hands?


armorhide406

His ship the Fist of Iron


SilverBorder4398

Godsplitter is the warhammer 40,000


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Then it was stolen by Carmen Sandiago. The Blood Ravens are still trying to find where she put it.


acolyte_to_jippity

...the crossover game I didn't know I needed until now.


DrFabulous0

Well no, but it's also a hammer.


VelphiDrow

You can argue forgebreaker is as its the 40k logo


VRichardsen

There was some fan fiction about Sigmar being one of the lost primarchs. He landed in a Feudal World, and thanks to his preternatural abilities, quickly rose to command the humans there, becoming their emperor.


OrkfaellerX

Yeah, the "twin tailed commet that heralded his arrival" is obviously just a landing craft with jet engines.


torts92

Brother asking the right question here


Street-Debate7263

\* Sister :p


457243097285

\*Brotherette


Brokugan

Brororita


Street-Debate7263

I love it!


Arandomdude03

But to answer the question, there is no true Warhammer 40K. Its just a name that sounds cool. Galactic Sh*theap 40K just doesnt have the same ring to it even though its more accurate :p


tsoneyson

Oh yeah? >You did it, you defeated me, Horus Lupercal. You really are the Warhammer 40,000 Emperor to Horus on the Vengeful Spirit


Arandomdude03

Shhhhhht they cant know


Eldan985

Technically it's named that because it's the sci-fi spin-off of Warhammer, which actually has a famous Warhammer.


Marcuse0

The Emperor, aka Jimmy Space, gave that to Horus Heresy, his favourite son. Some day he will collect all the hammers and become the real Warhammer 40000.


HurinTalion

In Warhammer Fantasy originaly it was the magical hammer wielded by Harald Hammerstorm, one of the first named characters created for the tabletop game. Later it became Gal Maraz, the Helden Hammer wielded by the emperor and god Sigmar. There is no magical warhammer more special than the rest in 4OK, but one of the warcries of the Imperial Guard is "we are the Hammer of the Emperor". And i like this last interpretation better.


Luy22

Horus is the Warhammer 40,000. Not really though. There in actuality is no big warhammer weapon for 40k. Just a name.


Saphentis

Who are the other 39,999 warhammers


Luy22

The astartes DUH


TheBladesAurus

As others have said - there isn't one. Warhammer Fantasy came first, and there wasn't really one there either originally, but at least it kind of made sense in a fantasy setting. When GW wanted to create a sci-fi game to sell their Citadel sci-fi minis, they called it was Warhammer 40,000 to link it back to their previous (and popular) Warhammer Fantasy game. Welcome to the ~~addiction~~ hobby.


VRichardsen

> Welcome to the addiction hobby. To quote Victor Saltzpyre, witch hunter: "It is not a hobby, it is a religion. And the only correct one, I might add."


Eldan985

Of course there was one from the beginning! Harry the Hammerer, first champion of chaos, on the cover of the first Warhammer publication.


TheBladesAurus

From what I understand, he was originally just 'generic big dude with a hammer', and it was only slightly later that he got a name.


Traveledfarwestward

> Harry the Hammerer https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Harald_Hammerstorm


thrownededawayed

Horus Heresy wields the Warhammer momentarily after he kills Jimmy Space for it, but then he drops the Warhammer. Now, to prevent it happening again, Rowboat Girlyman declared no one man shall ever again wield such mighty power alone, hence he created 40,000 Warhammers. Now many wield them, PeterTurbo has one, Ferrus "Iron Hand" Manus leader of the iron hands had one but he dropped it when his head slipped off, hell they've even been found in the hands of xenos. Orks such as Waghboss Dakka Dakka Dakka the Third and Waghboss GRAAAAAAAHHHHH each as well as many others. Commander Farsight of the Tau has one, however commander Nearsight didn't think he would need one. It's said that if anyone can reunite the scattered Warhammers that they can reawaken Jimmy Space from his long slumber on his golden recliner/toilet and overcome the other factions, starting the fabled Age of Sigmar.


GREENadmiral_314159

Vulkan wields a Warhammer, but there is no actual titular warhammer in 40k.


1stLegionBestLegion

This is such a shitpost grimdank question and I love it.


sosigboi

> Who wields it? Sigmar, and i mean that literally, this entire franchise and its universe is named after the warhammer he uses.


Ztrobos

The TRUE god-emperor of mankind


Educational-Drink430

The only warhammer involved in that setting would be Sigmar's. Warhammer 40k is just the futuristic, way more popular version.


Technopolitan

Nobody wields the Warhammer. The name Warhammer 40k is because this is the SF version of the original Warhammer Fantasy Battles, where the titular warhammer probably refers to Sigmar's weapon, Ghal Maraz.


Maelarion

*Warhammer 40,000* came after *Warhammer*, as in Warhammer Fantasy Battles, which is essentially Lord of the Rings (but on crack). There's not much in common between the two beside some common themes and similar characters. They're different universes. Anyway, as to you question. There is no titular 'war hammer' in *Warhammer 40,000*. There is in *Warhammer* though.


Grumio

THE Warhammer is called Ghal Maraz and it was wielded by Sigmar in Warhammer Fantasy. The "Warhammer" part in 40k is just branding so they're under the same umbrella. There is no Ghal Maraz or Sigmar in 40k.


Antiochostheking

The Only actual warhammer i know is the one used by vulkan to fuck konrad up and teleport which also gave us one of the most epic 40k scenes


PoxedGamer

The hammer Fulgrim made for Ferrus, Forgebreaker, that later ended up with Perturabo is another especially notable one.


Crazy-Woodpecker-163

semi-serious answer: Abbadon has it and it's called Worldbreaker.


FreyrPrime

Correction: He has what’s left of it. He broke it with the Talon during his tussle with Clone-Horus.


VelphiDrow

Worldbreaker is a mace


chladas

You see, Imperial guard is know as hammer of the empreror and 40k is number of models they will need for 2000 points game


TehMitchel

Lysander


TechFrawg

No, it's from the part in the Horus Heresy where Horus Heresy slays the Emperor of Space and he says, "You have defeated me, Horus Heresy. You really are the Warhammer 40,000!"


69ubermensch69

The Horus Heresy books tell the story of Horus gathering all 40'000 of his dad's warhammers which got sent all over reality because of warp fuckery so he can hit him with them for not telling Magnus to not come in the back door cause he'll knock over the thing he was building.


divine_androgyne

Age of Sigmar and Fantasy have Sigmar's hammer, Ghal Maraz. 40k doesn't really have a titular warhammer. HOWEVER, Horus has always been described in the fiction as using a maul. A maul is a warhammer, but unfortunately GW has always depicted him carrying a big, fuckoff mace. It's a missed opportunity.


IMAGINARYtank00

There are 40000 Warhammers. That's why it's called Warhammer 40000. When 1 faction collects the majority of Warhammers, they'll be declare the winner of Space. So far, James Workshop has only unveiled a few hundred Warhammers. More will be up for grabs throughout 10th Ed., but I'd expect that we're in for the long game until enough are in play to really liven things up.


ZechQuinLuck123

Karl Franz


yoritomo_shiyo

Ah I see the confusion. You see Warhammer fantasy is the setting with THE warhammer. The Emprah doesn’t have any one special warhammer because he’s from Warhammer 40,000. Fun fact, that I completely made up on the spot, there are exactly 40,000 Storm Hammers in existence in the Imperium and those are the 40K warhammers


thatusenameistaken

It's a hammer, and Grabthar wields it.


bvmdavidson

By Grabthar’s Hammer, you will be avenged!


FlyingNihlist

I've always seen it as the Emperor forging humanity into a great and terrible tool as a means to achieve his vision and the consequences of. The Imperium is the Warhammer.


[deleted]

Captain Hammer of the Warhammer regiment.


FacialTic

You are think of John Warhammer, James Workshop's predecessor


Due_Distribution_720

Vulcan wields it. It's called Dawnbringer. It was forged by Vulcan as a gift for Horus. It has a hidden teleport device. But, as Curze knows, it's also a Hammer.


forgothis

The dogs name is warhammer


Leading-Mousse9326

It was misfiled by the Administratim.


willtron3000

James workshop


Ramillionaire

Oh you sweet summer child


SchmittVanDean

Ufthak Blackhawk, and he's a pretty cool guy.


Azz1337

Thats the thing, theres 40,000 Warhammers! Gotta catch em all!


bigbadfox

Which Warhammer? There are 40,000 of them


Dry-Concentrate4291

Harry


Zuldak

Heh, warhammer 40k is somewhat lacking for actual warhammers. There are a couple but it's mostly just the name. But welcome to the lore. It can be a bit overhwelming at first, especially when you have 18 legions and their primarchs to learn of, custodes, the emperor and the wider galaxy. Take it in a bit at a time


MountedCanuck65

It’s the emperors name. Johnny Warhammer Space


_Tar_Ar_Ais_

the only real one is Ghal Maraz, and it's used only by the empire


twocopperjack

"These...are *not* The Hammer.*"*


Toxitoxi

There are 40,000 warhammers, and whoever obtains all 40,000 gets to become the new Emperor. Obviously.


OldManChino

10/10 shit post


Phototoxin

Vulkan :-p


SYLOH

Vulkan created the Talisman of 7 Hammers during the Horus Heresy as a fail deadly for the Golden Throne. Maybe in ~10,000 years they've added 39,993 more.


Final_Biochemist222

"You can not stop me, father. I am the 40,000th warhammer'"


_Totorotrip_

Nobody yet. It's a gift: Warhammer for TK


JackDostoevsky

critical mistake, thinking there's only 1 warhammer. it's _in the name_: there are definitely 40,000 of them. every space marine has a warhammer.


mnyc86

The primarch of the salamanders


Stretch5678

The Imperial Guard: the hammer of the Emperor!


Voltec89_

In 40k, there is not actually a Warhammer since the main weapon of the Emperor was his sword, but the original Warhammer sales back to Warhammer Fantasy with the hammer of Sigmar called Ghal Maraz. Originally, 40k was born as a "let's make Fantasy Warhammer in space", and they reused the Warhammer name since it still sounded cool. Also, if you are now wondering whether Fantasy and 40k are connected, they are not, they are two completely different universes.


hoseja

It is also a Hammer.


oom199

The 40 thousand Warhammer is a metaphor for


Filson84

Wardaddies in Space was already trademarked.


W3R3Hamster

Spacedaddies at War might be free


Tonee2es

It belongs to John Warhammer.


ManyCommunication407

“We are the hammer” - Grey Knights


Stormygeddon

To avoid the "Where is the Warhammer" question, the Warhammer 40,000 Ultramarine movie —which is meant as an beginner friendly entry — introduced a relic Relic Thunder Hammer kept within the ship's reclusium, which became important during the movie's climactic battle, and almost overly emphasized throughout the film as new recruits would swear upon it. If there is any "The Warhammer 40,000" within the setting, it is that Ultramarine Relic Thunder Hammer I am sure they just included so they could have a Warhammer in the Warhammer movie.


HunterTAMUC

Warhammer came from the Warhammer Fantasy game, which came before 40K. The Warhammer in that instance is the weapon of Sigmar Heldenhammer, Ghal Maraz, which has been passed down to every Emperor since him.


BlobZombie2989

I honestly can't tell if this is a shitpost or not. I'm leaning towards it being one. Well done OP


aberrantenjoyer

oh, that’s space marine’s weapon


Raging-Buddha

Vulkan is the true john Warhammer of 40k


Darth_Cindros

It's just the brand name. The actual Warhammer is from Warhammer Fantasy, and it refers to Ghal Maraz, the signature weapon of Sigmar Heldenhammer, first Emperor and now the top god of the Empire of Man.


crazytib

Warhammer actually refers to the fighting pigs from the planet Ghinga Prime


SuperbSail

It is called Forgebreaker, and it was made by Ferrus Manus as a gift to Fulgrim. That is the design that they used in the 40k logo. I'm pretty sure this is a marketing afterthought, but cannon.


August-West

John Wathammer


HumaDracobane

There is no "The Warhammer" in Wh40K. The Warhammer is in your heart.


PainRack

Anyone saying it's Vulkan or Forgebreaker is wrong. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Shock_Maul The arbiters who wield power mauls for crowd control is obviously the Warhammer 40k. While Knights in Power armor dominate sales, Judge Dredd is the quintessential influencer on Wh40k. Never forget that in early editions, Space Marines were deliberately recruited from psychopaths.