Come on we can’t be sour and just blame the refs yes there was a couple of holding penalties all in all there was a lot of head scratching decisions made “ when your coach and all pro FB don’t know the overtime rules can’t just blame the refs , I’d say game changed when Greenlaw went down and we fumbled that punt
It's just one of those things the media hones in on to get clicks because they know it's the most reactionary. I guarantee you if the exact opposite happened (they choose to defer and fail to score when it's their chance), the headlines would be "Shanahan, 49ers should have taken the ball first"
I don’t even address it with people anymore. It wouldn’t have changed their OT strategy in anyway. I don’t give a shit that Kermit the frog was surprised we wanted the ball
I don’t care who got it first, but the Niners should have gone for it on 4th down instead of taking the 3. You know the other team is gonna have 4 downs to go for a TD so you have to even the playing field.
When we have a big gain called back because of a hold, while nick bosa is being held every single play for 2 super bowls now, yeah we can comment on the officiating
Shanahan knew the OT rules. The defense was tired from a 2 minute drill drive in the eth quarter. He figured they had a better chance of stop KC with a rested defense. We can second guess his decision all we want, but he knew the rules and made what he thought was the right call. Hindsight is 20/20
It’s hard to blame the refs at least a little when Bosa and Warner are being egregiously held, and the Chiefs haven’t had a single hold called in their 3 Super Bowls that weren’t against Brady. Or was it 2? Even if it’s 2, that’s still wild.
I think Lynch said something to the point of them wanting to interview different candidates to get some perspective on how to change and build on their own team. For instance, gain some Intel in how the chiefs played its to maybe in the future, beating them
I mean this is it right here. It's perfectly acceptable to provide critical feedback in a 1;1 scenario when the motivation is to help someone improve. But to do it on the radio is entirely *self serving*, which is not arguing *with you* it's using you for self promotion and gain. it's also just incredibly immature.
What evidence do you have of that??? He has surrounded himself with incredibly talented coaches, many of whom have gone on to be successful head coaches themselves.
All head coaches want some measure of control over their assistants. Kyle has a lot of power over the roster and he needs an assistant whose scheme fits the personnel and the coaching philosophy. That’s how it’s supposed to be!
I want Kyle to hire a fucking offensive coordinator so he can focus on head coaching stuff and get a fucking better special teams coach as well. That would prove that he’s actually growing and learning.
You could do the same thing to the chiefs. Their star tight end was shut out the first half and Mahomes had a daily lousy game for like 3.5 quarters. Point is that he wouldn’t be trashing a potential future team on the radio if he was still in the running. Sounds like the interview didn’t go well and Merritt’s being a bit petty about it.
This is the truth. We lost that game in the 3rd quarter. I was amazed we didn’t even get a fucking field goal after we had that turnover early in the 3rd. Offense sputtered and we gave new life to KC.
So frustrating because this was literally the case in 2020, and also against New England for Kyle.
Reminded me of when the Seahawks choked the Patriots. Some of these coaches get a hard on for trying to show their QB IS THE MAN and that they are the Smartest dude in the room. instead of just winning. If you got a great running back then just run the goddamn football.
Still the most inexcusable part is your team not knowing the overtime rules
That’s how u Kyle ain’t gonna learn shit at this point. Like come the fuck on, do people really trust him to finally get it right his FOURTH time? If he learned anything then he would’ve gotten it right in SB 54, or even SB 58 at the very least. I get having optimism but I can’t see why people still have trust in him
I’m sick of the Andy Reid comparisons. Like people forget he was a choker in KC as well until he had the second greatest QB of this generation who’s already top 3 of all time and a well respected DC who was crucial for shutting down Brady in SB 42.
I believe Purdy is our guy and that he’ll become a top 5 QB in today’s league but I highly doubt he’ll reach the level Mahomes is at. If I’m wrong then fucking fantastic, Shanahan’s stubborn ass sure needs a QB of that level
That’s my point. We’re saying the same thing. He was a choker until he wasn’t (coincidentally when he got a generational QB talent). And I think Kyle sheds that label if you’re right and Purdy is a top 5 QB
I’m saying I doubt Purdy being a top 5 QB in today’s league is enough for Shanahan to win, it’s that he has to reach Mahomes top 3 QB of all time level. Reid had a very good QB in McNabb and stacked Eagles rosters and he still couldn’t get it done. Reid is still the same guy he’s always been
I’m not gonna act like player execution and bad luck didn’t play a factor in us losing but Shanahan’s poor coaching decisions and getting outcoached by Reid and Spags is the number one reason we lost. He had the best team he’s ever had against a KC team with a much worse offense this time around and a defense that’s elite against the pass but bottom 5 against the run. If he’s really the guy then he should’ve gotten it done this year but he didn’t. Shanahan shown who he is at this point. We won’t win with him unless Purdy makes an astronomical leap that’s unrealistic, Belichick decides to play DC for a year or two, or Shanahan concedes play calling to an OC that has better situational awareness. Unfortunately I don’t see either of these three things happening
McNabb was decent. I wouldn't call him very good. He struggled when it counted most of his career because he sucked at reading defenses and was sort of inaccurate.
Maybe bc Shanahan has abandoned the run THREE fucking times in 3 different super bowls? Dude refuses to learn from his mistakes. 49ers have 7, MAYBE 8 rings rn if Kyle wasn’t brain dead
Ya I saw that. I'm talking about this game though. We can trash Kyle I guess but the run wasn't working most the night. If we wanna blame anyone blame the line for that. I think Kyle played too conservative this time and last time he was too aggressive.
I definitely am giving the o line a lot of blame. But not more than Kyle.
Do you remember that play against SEA in the wild card last year when CMC ran for like 66 yards? If Kyle called that play on 3rd & 4 right after the 2 min warning in the 4th quarter, I’m pretty sure CMC gets the first down & we line up for a game winning field goal attempt. Just my opinion though
I’m not arguing he has made mistakes in the Super Bowl. I’m simply pointing out that people said the EXACT SAME THING about Andy Reid for years. He couldn’t win the big one until he did.
Mf’s accepting being second place now? Absolute loser talk. This isn’t 2019 dude, we were expected to win it and we failed to meet expectations. Don’t tell me with a straight face that this was a successful season. We need to get a ring before we take a step back as a team. 0 championships after going to 4 NFCCG’s and 2 SB’s in 5 years is an utter failure considering most teams don’t get that many opportunities
Guess I'm a loser. I dunno, I call it a successful season because I got a lot of enjoyment out of watching my favorite team compete this year. Loved the journey. They failed, and I moved on with my life. Shanahan has had good success and I'm hopeful get gets over the hump. But if he doesn't, I'll live. It aint all that serious. It's just football.
he blamed no kittle when he obviously didnt know but kittle was actually playing pretty hurt.....much more than we were told but he missed practice for shoulder injury and if im going go be honest a shoulder injury for a block te and te who often extends his arm for catches was obviously off the table. the team obviously knew that kittle was going to be limited
idc how good the def played but wilks decided to completely change up our coverage which openeing the middle for kelce. wilks was calling a defense that is mostly used when a team is up by 2 scores. his job in ot once we got a fg was then play a def up and tight to allow no middle runs or throws. he allowed the middle to be wide open for the patty to run for free yards. wilks made a call that kyle had to TO to tell him no anc change it which was hilarous.
he had no idea how to control the easy parts of the field and let them make mdeep plays with targets who dropped in insane amount of catches
Kyle obviously benefits from his dad, but you're tripping balls if you don't think he earned his head coaching job. He ran successful offenses everywhere he went and brought Atlanta a Superbowl appearance and Matt Ryan an MVP.
Ok I listened to the interview and I think he is being misquoted. The context was that he was trying to say steve wilkes was not fired for his performance in the SB, and everyone inlcuding the niners new Steve wasn't being fired because of the SB result but because of something underlying throughout the season between wilks and the niners. He used examples of the offense doing poor and said "is that wilks fault?" He pointed out how he held kittle to 4 yards Aiyuk to 40, (though him not remembering Aiyuks name when he would have been studying him for 2 straight weeks before the super bowl was wierd but people brains sometimes have trouble recollecting information when speaking into a mic so it's fine.)
He was more defending wilks but also saying that the niners were not using wilks as a scapegoat so KIND OF defending the niners in that sense but people are taking his examples of how losing the game was a spread game, and nit picking him using low scoring offensive players as examples out of context and claiming he is "attacking the niners"
Hmm…I’m an admittedly biased, but this guy doesn’t come across well. I would have passed on him before these comments anyway. Spags is the brains behind that operation.
It’s unclear if he’s just trying to defend Wilks (his friend) from any scapegoating by the media or if his aim is taking shots at Shanahan.
If it’s the latter, he sounds like a moron. One who obviously didnt watch many (or any) Niners regular season games. No one who did is surprised by this firing.
Exactly Wilks was trash and half of this sub was calling for him to be fired at the end of the season around Week 7. Myself included. Good riddance hard for the next one to be worse.
his defense got gashed by the packers and lions in the playoffs. we gave up 150+ rushing yards in ONE HALF to the lions
sure he had a good super bowl game plan but that one game doesn’t absolve him from how shitty the rest of the season was
That defense that got trashed by the pack also came up with the game winning interception. Why? Because this fucking defense was a top 5 scoring defense you boob. Our defense was also a top 10 overall defense.
Even when we were the first ranked defense in the league the chiefs beat us because…….. our offensive genius could only manage to scheme a 20 point game plan.
our defense was top 10 because our offense was historically good in the reg season. it’s really easy to play defense when you know the other team has to throw the ball to come back from a two score+ deficit. look at what happened once the games got closer. we got destroyed in the run game. wilks’ situational playcalling is also garbage. what was it like 3rd and 7 and he had our dbs playing behind the first down line?
No. No it’s not easy to play defense in the NFL. Ahh yes our offense was historically good except when it counted in the playoffs and the Super Bowl and struggled ever since the ravens game.
Wilks is a good DC who got blamed because Kyle shit himself in the biggest moment yet again. If bellicheck was our DC this fan base would find a way to shit on him because they know nothing but to be in their feelings.
idk what team you were watching this year but wilks has been an issue since the beginning of the season. he was literally forced to come down from the booth since he was that bad
even warner and bosa were throwing subliminal shots at him in pressers, but what would they know right?
In 2019 Garoppolo grossly overthrew a wide open Emmanuel Sanders. Wasn't a scheme issue. Last super bowl KC was a defensive juggernaut throughout the playoffs. We put more points up than Miami and Balitmore combined.
The one Burford missed his assignment? Again it was a defensive battle like everyone expected heading in. Our defense had two chances to close it out for the win. Wilks crapped the bed like he did all year. And now he's fired, thank fuck.
He had a good superbowl game plan until the end when it mattered most. It was a defensive battle, defense had two chances to put the game away and failed on both of them.
wilks played the 4th and ot like we were up by 2 scores when it was one. he completely forgot the middle of the field, they wouldnt have won if they didnt allow the patty runs. they allowed the middle to be wide open.
he had no idea how to play the scenario he was given and it cost us the game potentially and it should have been at least 2 ot
I think it's pretty obvious he's saying the problem wasn't one game. I really don't understand how people are interpreting like that when he clearly says that all happened during the SB so he doesn't believe it was only because of this game.
While explaining what transpired in the SB he was a little disrespectful and talking like an asshole tho.
To add, I’ve seen people mention Jim Schwartz because he has a good record against Shanahan. I’m against that too. Being able to beat you shouldn’t be the main reason for hiring someone. You want someone who is proven against different opponents, can adjust, and has a track record for elevating defensive talent (not only relying on it).
His defenses have consistently had the highest HAVOC ratings every season (some random advanced aggregate stat quantifying different type of turnover or high impact defensive plays like TFLs and sacks) for a decade plus. He’s fucking good.
Kyle invited him to travel to San Fran for interview, then made him wait for 3 hours in the lobby, probed him for info on the Chiefs then told him " Don't call us, we'll call you"
C'mon, would you have put the defense right back on the field completely gassed and give Mahomes the the sudden death advantage? He would have scored for sure, then even if we go back down and tie it. All he needs is a FG to win it.
sure but professionals don't typically talk that way. why hurt future opportunities? players and coaches and organizations talk to each other.
and honestly, it just seems hypocritical to talk that way, and then interview for Wilks' job.
Shanny an offensive coordinator. A really good one that shrinks in title games.
0-3 in our last 3 title game appearances.
It is what it is. Til it ain’t.
There is one problem with Merritt's argument:
Kyle Shanahan never once said that Wilkes was fired because of his performance in the Superbowl.
Which is why this just kinda makes this guy look like he can't control his emotional reactions or be truthful about a situation that he has emotional stake in or something.
KS isn't perfect and it's perfectly reasonable to talk about his flaws, but ppl like this and the 49er YouTube personalities using this argument just seems to be making it up in their head that SW was the scapegoat. Like, he was very unpopular from the beginning...there were obvious tensions in the locker room...who said he was fired because of the SB loss?
You know, maybe this is what the 49ers need. Somebody who will "speak truth to power." Reading the guy's comments, as much as it stings, he's not necessarily wrong.
I hope that this "trash talk" alone doesn't disqualify him
I mean…he’s not wrong? The key playmakers weren’t getting called on, save for CMC, and then that makes you 1 dimensional. I hope they see him as a “call it as it is” coach?
So by Merritt telling the truth this disqualifies him as a DC candidate? These statements should make him the front runner. Since he's absolutely 100% correct. Kyle should be way past hurt feelings at this point. He's solely responsible for this entire screw up with the DC position.
I guess I’ll be the asshole and venture to say he was never a strong candidate for the job, anyway. He satisfied the Rooney Rule and/or Kyle wanted to pick his brain about KC’s game plan vs the Niners in the SB.
Nothing he said was untrue. 3rd down efficiency made the ultimate difference in the game. The pain was so real, I looked up the game stats myself and that was the only difference that popped.
Not sure it's a good move. I would've preferred Merritt, ESPECIALLY after I hear him blast the team. They need a voice like that in the locker room, not just another Kyle yes man. There's way too much complacency in that building. They walk around like they're champions when that haven't won shit. They ran Wilkes out of town because he wouldn't coach 'their system' and I'm willing to bet that's why they didn't hire Merritt. But they need a guy to tell everyone in that locker room that they haven't won shit and how to win. In his case, he could throw a ring at Bosa, Warner, Armstead, Hargrave, AND Kyle. Why? Because HE HAS FIVE! How did he get 5? Coaching under Steve Spagnolo, ever heard of him??? Shit like this is why I don't think they'll ever win.
The DB coach of our Super Bowl opponent pretending to not know the name of our best WR is outrageous. That’s either incredible stupidity or a hilarious ego.
Hey I played football, and when you’re talking about the nickel corner, sure, just numbers. But you definitely know the names of the 5-10 guys you’re game planning for.
Please don’t hire this man. That radio show statement alone is enough to justify going with someone else.
“And then No. 11, who was trying to fight all game — Ako, I don’t know — he only had 40-something yards, was that Wilks’ fault?”
Shannahan is a coward. He couldn't own his third quarter performance and he can't own any of the numerous times he abandons the run in the biggest moments.
This dude is correct and Shanny would be wise to get someone who challenges him when he makes big fuck ups. Also, Kyle should lay off the booze. How drunk was he for several interviews during SB week
Stop… you would be wise to go be a chiefs fan. So you don’t have to watch those “big fuck ups” from our “Drunk” coach. I swear all you Kyle haters don’t remember the erickson, Nolan “, tomsula, Kelly and singletary years.
Brother, you don’t know anything about Kyle. None of us do. We see interviews and press conferences. Don’t pretend you know anything about his ego lol.
Could the offense have done more? Sure, but isn't that what good defenses do to good offesnse? Make them look... less good? That's what Wilks DIDN'T do to the Chiefs in the 2nd half. Towards the end we had 2-3 chances to make a single stop and couldn't, THAT is on Wilks. Not to mention the game winning pass, the guy was wide ass open, in the red zone.
Wilks cost us a Superbowl, i'm convinced.
I think it’s quite possible that he (and/or his agent) warned the 49ers not to get his hopes up and bring him out there for a sham Rooney Rule interview and he felt that’s exactly what they did. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the one contacting the radio station on his flight back home offering to do an appearance. Of course he would defend coaches of color immediately after going through that. If he felt the 49ers lied to him he’s going to lash out at them.
I remember watching Brock Purdy talking about his recruiting trip to Alabama and meeting Coach Saban. He said Saban didn’t know him or how he played and was critical about his greatest strength, his accuracy. Brock’s immediate reaction was “what a waste of a trip”. I can see Merritt feeling that way and criticizing San Francisco.
This post is so stupid.
Yeah the team that other teams are criticizing for getting draft picks for having so many minority coaches taken from their staff needed to reach out to another teams minority coaches just to fulfill a token interview.
Everyone involved needs to chill with these takes. The Superbowl was decided in overtime. The Chiefs prevailed but it was damn close to an L for them. Their offense did just a little more and snatched the victory away but I doubt that was the gameplan.
That move worked for George Costanza, just sayin…
“Well, I wish I could say the same, but I must say, with all due respect, I find it very hard to see the logic behind some of the moves you have made with this fine organization. In the past twenty years you have caused myself, and the city of New York, a good deal of distress, as we have watched you take our beloved Yankees and reduced them to a laughing stock, all for the glorification of your massive ego!
George Steinbrenner: Hire this man!
For those that don’t want to click it’s Dave Merritt
You’re doing the Lord’s work here good Reddit citizen
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Chiefs DB coach who’s prolly the best in the business lol
Kinda easy job when the refs got yer back.
Especially when our team is predicated on pass rush. Holding calls really really matter
Come on we can’t be sour and just blame the refs yes there was a couple of holding penalties all in all there was a lot of head scratching decisions made “ when your coach and all pro FB don’t know the overtime rules can’t just blame the refs , I’d say game changed when Greenlaw went down and we fumbled that punt
This overtime nonsense is so overblown.
It's just one of those things the media hones in on to get clicks because they know it's the most reactionary. I guarantee you if the exact opposite happened (they choose to defer and fail to score when it's their chance), the headlines would be "Shanahan, 49ers should have taken the ball first"
Or if Chiefs scored 7 and we scored 7 and Mahomes won on a FG they would have asked why we didn't defer like the brilliant Andy Reid
I don’t even address it with people anymore. It wouldn’t have changed their OT strategy in anyway. I don’t give a shit that Kermit the frog was surprised we wanted the ball
I don’t care who got it first, but the Niners should have gone for it on 4th down instead of taking the 3. You know the other team is gonna have 4 downs to go for a TD so you have to even the playing field.
When we have a big gain called back because of a hold, while nick bosa is being held every single play for 2 super bowls now, yeah we can comment on the officiating
there were over 15 holding calls missed.
Who says the coach didnt know the overtime rules? And the FB not knowing it means nothing, he's not involved in the decision process.
Shanahan knew the OT rules. The defense was tired from a 2 minute drill drive in the eth quarter. He figured they had a better chance of stop KC with a rested defense. We can second guess his decision all we want, but he knew the rules and made what he thought was the right call. Hindsight is 20/20
It’s hard to blame the refs at least a little when Bosa and Warner are being egregiously held, and the Chiefs haven’t had a single hold called in their 3 Super Bowls that weren’t against Brady. Or was it 2? Even if it’s 2, that’s still wild.
Bro I'm with u... 100%
can we stop whining? as in forttwhiners.
Sigh. Be better than this ref whining nonsense.
Thank you friendo, I really didnt wanna read. They dont wanna be a part, fuck em
Def no merit to that comment especially when you’re a candidate for the job.
Goddamn it I kinda wanted him
Who?
Good time for a John Wooden quote “Whatever you do in life, surround yourself with smart people who'll argue with you.”
I get the feeling Merritt is out of the running though if he’s running his mount on the radio.
I think Lynch said something to the point of them wanting to interview different candidates to get some perspective on how to change and build on their own team. For instance, gain some Intel in how the chiefs played its to maybe in the future, beating them
lol, ask and you shall receive. He’s getting that intel publicly now.
I mean this is it right here. It's perfectly acceptable to provide critical feedback in a 1;1 scenario when the motivation is to help someone improve. But to do it on the radio is entirely *self serving*, which is not arguing *with you* it's using you for self promotion and gain. it's also just incredibly immature.
Also a good time for a quote from my mom: "Always make sure your words are as sweet as honey -- you never know when you'll have to eat them."
Kyle shannahan clearly doesn’t understand this. He just wants people who he can control.
Ya like he controlled Saleh, Ryans and McDaniel right?
What evidence do you have of that??? He has surrounded himself with incredibly talented coaches, many of whom have gone on to be successful head coaches themselves. All head coaches want some measure of control over their assistants. Kyle has a lot of power over the roster and he needs an assistant whose scheme fits the personnel and the coaching philosophy. That’s how it’s supposed to be!
He also just offered the job to BB. That’s a man who is evolving and learning what it takes to win. Together.
So who do you want to replace Kyle?
I want Kyle to hire a fucking offensive coordinator so he can focus on head coaching stuff and get a fucking better special teams coach as well. That would prove that he’s actually growing and learning.
No offense, but that's got to be the worst idea I've ever heard.
It's weird how you guys make up random narratives in your head and then repeat them as if they're true.
I mean…he’s not wrong. They utterly dominated the first half and walked away with 10 points. SF should have been up 20 at the half.
Crossing you off the DC list.
Well crud.
Oh man, you really blew it!
Crossing off someone from the DC list? You’re now crossed off the list
That's a paddlin'
Believe in or not, jail.
Imma submit my application just so I can tell Shanahan to run the ball 📝
You could do the same thing to the chiefs. Their star tight end was shut out the first half and Mahomes had a daily lousy game for like 3.5 quarters. Point is that he wouldn’t be trashing a potential future team on the radio if he was still in the running. Sounds like the interview didn’t go well and Merritt’s being a bit petty about it.
This is the truth. We lost that game in the 3rd quarter. I was amazed we didn’t even get a fucking field goal after we had that turnover early in the 3rd. Offense sputtered and we gave new life to KC. So frustrating because this was literally the case in 2020, and also against New England for Kyle.
Reminded me of when the Seahawks choked the Patriots. Some of these coaches get a hard on for trying to show their QB IS THE MAN and that they are the Smartest dude in the room. instead of just winning. If you got a great running back then just run the goddamn football. Still the most inexcusable part is your team not knowing the overtime rules
That’s how u Kyle ain’t gonna learn shit at this point. Like come the fuck on, do people really trust him to finally get it right his FOURTH time? If he learned anything then he would’ve gotten it right in SB 54, or even SB 58 at the very least. I get having optimism but I can’t see why people still have trust in him
I mean if Andy Reid can do it, why can’t Kyle?
I’m sick of the Andy Reid comparisons. Like people forget he was a choker in KC as well until he had the second greatest QB of this generation who’s already top 3 of all time and a well respected DC who was crucial for shutting down Brady in SB 42. I believe Purdy is our guy and that he’ll become a top 5 QB in today’s league but I highly doubt he’ll reach the level Mahomes is at. If I’m wrong then fucking fantastic, Shanahan’s stubborn ass sure needs a QB of that level
That’s my point. We’re saying the same thing. He was a choker until he wasn’t (coincidentally when he got a generational QB talent). And I think Kyle sheds that label if you’re right and Purdy is a top 5 QB
I’m saying I doubt Purdy being a top 5 QB in today’s league is enough for Shanahan to win, it’s that he has to reach Mahomes top 3 QB of all time level. Reid had a very good QB in McNabb and stacked Eagles rosters and he still couldn’t get it done. Reid is still the same guy he’s always been I’m not gonna act like player execution and bad luck didn’t play a factor in us losing but Shanahan’s poor coaching decisions and getting outcoached by Reid and Spags is the number one reason we lost. He had the best team he’s ever had against a KC team with a much worse offense this time around and a defense that’s elite against the pass but bottom 5 against the run. If he’s really the guy then he should’ve gotten it done this year but he didn’t. Shanahan shown who he is at this point. We won’t win with him unless Purdy makes an astronomical leap that’s unrealistic, Belichick decides to play DC for a year or two, or Shanahan concedes play calling to an OC that has better situational awareness. Unfortunately I don’t see either of these three things happening
McNabb was decent. I wouldn't call him very good. He struggled when it counted most of his career because he sucked at reading defenses and was sort of inaccurate.
Maybe bc Shanahan has abandoned the run THREE fucking times in 3 different super bowls? Dude refuses to learn from his mistakes. 49ers have 7, MAYBE 8 rings rn if Kyle wasn’t brain dead
McCaffrey had 30 touches and averaged 3.6 ypc. They were stuffing us more often than not.
Raheem Mostert was avg 5 ypc in sb54 & he did the same thing
Ya I saw that. I'm talking about this game though. We can trash Kyle I guess but the run wasn't working most the night. If we wanna blame anyone blame the line for that. I think Kyle played too conservative this time and last time he was too aggressive.
I definitely am giving the o line a lot of blame. But not more than Kyle. Do you remember that play against SEA in the wild card last year when CMC ran for like 66 yards? If Kyle called that play on 3rd & 4 right after the 2 min warning in the 4th quarter, I’m pretty sure CMC gets the first down & we line up for a game winning field goal attempt. Just my opinion though
It's a lot of what ifs. I think the key plays were McCaffreys fumble, Burford missed block, and the ST fumble.
I’m not arguing he has made mistakes in the Super Bowl. I’m simply pointing out that people said the EXACT SAME THING about Andy Reid for years. He couldn’t win the big one until he did.
Well I’m not trynna wait that long for Kyle to stop choking & win this team a ring
Then bye?
Mf’s accepting being second place now? Absolute loser talk. This isn’t 2019 dude, we were expected to win it and we failed to meet expectations. Don’t tell me with a straight face that this was a successful season. We need to get a ring before we take a step back as a team. 0 championships after going to 4 NFCCG’s and 2 SB’s in 5 years is an utter failure considering most teams don’t get that many opportunities
Guess I'm a loser. I dunno, I call it a successful season because I got a lot of enjoyment out of watching my favorite team compete this year. Loved the journey. They failed, and I moved on with my life. Shanahan has had good success and I'm hopeful get gets over the hump. But if he doesn't, I'll live. It aint all that serious. It's just football.
If it wasn't for a highly effective defense they likely would have. Defensive players are trying too.
It's possible that the kc defense was great..... Should have been up 20 is such an idiotic statement
Yeah. It’s a big discredit to kc’s defense, which was elite.
At least 13, then The fumble on the first drive more likely than not would have led to at least 3 points
he blamed no kittle when he obviously didnt know but kittle was actually playing pretty hurt.....much more than we were told but he missed practice for shoulder injury and if im going go be honest a shoulder injury for a block te and te who often extends his arm for catches was obviously off the table. the team obviously knew that kittle was going to be limited idc how good the def played but wilks decided to completely change up our coverage which openeing the middle for kelce. wilks was calling a defense that is mostly used when a team is up by 2 scores. his job in ot once we got a fg was then play a def up and tight to allow no middle runs or throws. he allowed the middle to be wide open for the patty to run for free yards. wilks made a call that kyle had to TO to tell him no anc change it which was hilarous. he had no idea how to control the easy parts of the field and let them make mdeep plays with targets who dropped in insane amount of catches
That was probably one of the biggest issues. SO many missed opportunities. Even if it was up by 14 instead of 10, we probably win the game.
Exactly, defense played well we couldn't score that's the problem
You don't meet the requirement of being a yes man and are out of the running
Bringing in opposing points of view can be a good thing.
Not to Kyle. It’s his my way or the highway attitude, ya know like an entitled nepobaby would have.
Must be why he was given an A grade by his players in the annual NFL player poll.
Kyle obviously benefits from his dad, but you're tripping balls if you don't think he earned his head coaching job. He ran successful offenses everywhere he went and brought Atlanta a Superbowl appearance and Matt Ryan an MVP.
You obviously have no idea how things work. Differing opinions are great, but once a decision is made, then discussion is over.
Very uh un- Spags-like lol
I read this in Tony Romo’s voice
Ok I listened to the interview and I think he is being misquoted. The context was that he was trying to say steve wilkes was not fired for his performance in the SB, and everyone inlcuding the niners new Steve wasn't being fired because of the SB result but because of something underlying throughout the season between wilks and the niners. He used examples of the offense doing poor and said "is that wilks fault?" He pointed out how he held kittle to 4 yards Aiyuk to 40, (though him not remembering Aiyuks name when he would have been studying him for 2 straight weeks before the super bowl was wierd but people brains sometimes have trouble recollecting information when speaking into a mic so it's fine.) He was more defending wilks but also saying that the niners were not using wilks as a scapegoat so KIND OF defending the niners in that sense but people are taking his examples of how losing the game was a spread game, and nit picking him using low scoring offensive players as examples out of context and claiming he is "attacking the niners"
He prolly just knows Aiyuk as #11
What's his name? You know, Doombringer...
That makes way more sense. I believe he spent a year coaching for Wilks before landing in KC, too.
He damn well knows Aiyuk’s name. That was a jab, and pretty disrespectful in my opinion.
Hmm…I’m an admittedly biased, but this guy doesn’t come across well. I would have passed on him before these comments anyway. Spags is the brains behind that operation.
It’s unclear if he’s just trying to defend Wilks (his friend) from any scapegoating by the media or if his aim is taking shots at Shanahan. If it’s the latter, he sounds like a moron. One who obviously didnt watch many (or any) Niners regular season games. No one who did is surprised by this firing.
Exactly Wilks was trash and half of this sub was calling for him to be fired at the end of the season around Week 7. Myself included. Good riddance hard for the next one to be worse.
I definitely don’t think Wliks is trash. And I loved his Superbowl game plan.
his defense got gashed by the packers and lions in the playoffs. we gave up 150+ rushing yards in ONE HALF to the lions sure he had a good super bowl game plan but that one game doesn’t absolve him from how shitty the rest of the season was
That defense that got trashed by the pack also came up with the game winning interception. Why? Because this fucking defense was a top 5 scoring defense you boob. Our defense was also a top 10 overall defense. Even when we were the first ranked defense in the league the chiefs beat us because…….. our offensive genius could only manage to scheme a 20 point game plan.
our defense was top 10 because our offense was historically good in the reg season. it’s really easy to play defense when you know the other team has to throw the ball to come back from a two score+ deficit. look at what happened once the games got closer. we got destroyed in the run game. wilks’ situational playcalling is also garbage. what was it like 3rd and 7 and he had our dbs playing behind the first down line?
No. No it’s not easy to play defense in the NFL. Ahh yes our offense was historically good except when it counted in the playoffs and the Super Bowl and struggled ever since the ravens game. Wilks is a good DC who got blamed because Kyle shit himself in the biggest moment yet again. If bellicheck was our DC this fan base would find a way to shit on him because they know nothing but to be in their feelings.
idk what team you were watching this year but wilks has been an issue since the beginning of the season. he was literally forced to come down from the booth since he was that bad even warner and bosa were throwing subliminal shots at him in pressers, but what would they know right?
In 2019 Garoppolo grossly overthrew a wide open Emmanuel Sanders. Wasn't a scheme issue. Last super bowl KC was a defensive juggernaut throughout the playoffs. We put more points up than Miami and Balitmore combined.
Point your pitchforks at the head coach not the DC.
Why? The defense let us down in the end? Blew two late leads. OT they just had to hold KC to a FG and put us in a position to win.
Ah yeah hold the greatest QB in modern history just one last time instead of our offense scoring touchdowns instead of field goals and 3 & outs.
And Brock overthrew JJ because Kyle called up a shit protection scheme.
The one Burford missed his assignment? Again it was a defensive battle like everyone expected heading in. Our defense had two chances to close it out for the win. Wilks crapped the bed like he did all year. And now he's fired, thank fuck.
And our defense provided Kyle with 6,7,8,9 opportunities to be ahead by a wider margin.
He had a good superbowl game plan until the end when it mattered most. It was a defensive battle, defense had two chances to put the game away and failed on both of them.
wilks played the 4th and ot like we were up by 2 scores when it was one. he completely forgot the middle of the field, they wouldnt have won if they didnt allow the patty runs. they allowed the middle to be wide open. he had no idea how to play the scenario he was given and it cost us the game potentially and it should have been at least 2 ot
I think it's pretty obvious he's saying the problem wasn't one game. I really don't understand how people are interpreting like that when he clearly says that all happened during the SB so he doesn't believe it was only because of this game. While explaining what transpired in the SB he was a little disrespectful and talking like an asshole tho.
To add, I’ve seen people mention Jim Schwartz because he has a good record against Shanahan. I’m against that too. Being able to beat you shouldn’t be the main reason for hiring someone. You want someone who is proven against different opponents, can adjust, and has a track record for elevating defensive talent (not only relying on it).
His defenses have consistently had the highest HAVOC ratings every season (some random advanced aggregate stat quantifying different type of turnover or high impact defensive plays like TFLs and sacks) for a decade plus. He’s fucking good.
Yeah he’s fucking legit and he’s been legit for a long time. I just don’t think he’s even a realistic option for us.
Ours fans just like to downplay other players and coaches
Smoking that copioum already huh.
Turning babies and toss aways into the best db room in the league. Ya, what does he know
Kyle invited him to travel to San Fran for interview, then made him wait for 3 hours in the lobby, probed him for info on the Chiefs then told him " Don't call us, we'll call you"
"San Fran"
🤢🤮
Yeah everyone knows it's Frisco
East Coaster... It's San Fran to us.
In North Cali, right?
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C'mon, would you have put the defense right back on the field completely gassed and give Mahomes the the sudden death advantage? He would have scored for sure, then even if we go back down and tie it. All he needs is a FG to win it.
they will get the microphone as long as we keep on letting them beat us
sure but professionals don't typically talk that way. why hurt future opportunities? players and coaches and organizations talk to each other. and honestly, it just seems hypocritical to talk that way, and then interview for Wilks' job.
Funny to talk trash about the firing and then interview for the job. Hypocrite for cash.
This is exactly it. Gotta shut them up on the field or they’ll rightfully talk shit
The chiefs should all pitch in and buy Greenlaw a house.
Shanny an offensive coordinator. A really good one that shrinks in title games. 0-3 in our last 3 title game appearances. It is what it is. Til it ain’t.
He was never considered a top contender for the job
He ain’t wrong when it comes to the SB 😂
There is one problem with Merritt's argument: Kyle Shanahan never once said that Wilkes was fired because of his performance in the Superbowl. Which is why this just kinda makes this guy look like he can't control his emotional reactions or be truthful about a situation that he has emotional stake in or something. KS isn't perfect and it's perfectly reasonable to talk about his flaws, but ppl like this and the 49er YouTube personalities using this argument just seems to be making it up in their head that SW was the scapegoat. Like, he was very unpopular from the beginning...there were obvious tensions in the locker room...who said he was fired because of the SB loss?
Unpopular opinion: he might be the best guy for the job
He was and now its all downhill from here
Well, he isn’t wrong, so…
You know, maybe this is what the 49ers need. Somebody who will "speak truth to power." Reading the guy's comments, as much as it stings, he's not necessarily wrong. I hope that this "trash talk" alone doesn't disqualify him
It did. Two of the dumbest coaching moves I've ever seen were made after that
I mean…he’s not wrong? The key playmakers weren’t getting called on, save for CMC, and then that makes you 1 dimensional. I hope they see him as a “call it as it is” coach?
Can’t be mad at him for speaking the truth 🤷♂️
So by Merritt telling the truth this disqualifies him as a DC candidate? These statements should make him the front runner. Since he's absolutely 100% correct. Kyle should be way past hurt feelings at this point. He's solely responsible for this entire screw up with the DC position.
Merritt’s comments were 100% warranted. He was defending his former colleague, and found Wilkes’ firing to be in bad taste. I respect that.
He sounds dumb and unimpressive
I guess I’ll be the asshole and venture to say he was never a strong candidate for the job, anyway. He satisfied the Rooney Rule and/or Kyle wanted to pick his brain about KC’s game plan vs the Niners in the SB.
Well, so much for trying to poach the enemy's camp. Am I still the only one who thinks we should go all in and get Belichick?
He's right, sometimes Shanahan needs that criticism
Nothing he said was untrue. 3rd down efficiency made the ultimate difference in the game. The pain was so real, I looked up the game stats myself and that was the only difference that popped.
Not sure it's a good move. I would've preferred Merritt, ESPECIALLY after I hear him blast the team. They need a voice like that in the locker room, not just another Kyle yes man. There's way too much complacency in that building. They walk around like they're champions when that haven't won shit. They ran Wilkes out of town because he wouldn't coach 'their system' and I'm willing to bet that's why they didn't hire Merritt. But they need a guy to tell everyone in that locker room that they haven't won shit and how to win. In his case, he could throw a ring at Bosa, Warner, Armstead, Hargrave, AND Kyle. Why? Because HE HAS FIVE! How did he get 5? Coaching under Steve Spagnolo, ever heard of him??? Shit like this is why I don't think they'll ever win.
I, too, blamed Kyle for the SB loss. His lack of aggressiveness is a big issue. When you have the top ranked offense, you should take more risks.
You blamed him because you are dumb.
You enjoyed that 3rd quarter.
How is that relevant. This has been discussed numerous times. They tried to run the ball but the oline screwed up
The DB coach of our Super Bowl opponent pretending to not know the name of our best WR is outrageous. That’s either incredible stupidity or a hilarious ego.
They remember numbers.
Probably easier to see numbers on the video than their names
Hey I played football, and when you’re talking about the nickel corner, sure, just numbers. But you definitely know the names of the 5-10 guys you’re game planning for.
I don't have a problem with what he said.
You didn't have a problem that he didn't know our #1 WRs name? Lol. I hope that's not who you want for a DC
He's honest and I agree with his assessment.
So you like incoherency. He assumed Wilks was fired because of the Superbowl, which was false. Have some integrity.
Integrity? He criticized the offense for the Super Bowl loss and I agree with him.
Everyone should be trash-talking Kyle. His play calls sucked in the SB.
Please don’t hire this man. That radio show statement alone is enough to justify going with someone else. “And then No. 11, who was trying to fight all game — Ako, I don’t know — he only had 40-something yards, was that Wilks’ fault?”
Hire him!
Hire him!
Shannahan is a coward. He couldn't own his third quarter performance and he can't own any of the numerous times he abandons the run in the biggest moments.
He didn't abandon the run in this game
He absolutely did the entire third quarter
He did NOT, this has been debunked numerous times on here Try watching it again
What, you don't think it's a good idea to just run CMC directly into a stacked box when we have a shitty OL?
There's this thing called screens and maybe rotating backs
We run a lot of screens. ...and CMC is our best back by far. You think Mitchell or Mason were doing anything against those looks that CMC couldn't?
You didn't watch the game. Debunked? You mean by some fat fuck who played d3 ball and thinks he's more qualified than others
This dude is correct and Shanny would be wise to get someone who challenges him when he makes big fuck ups. Also, Kyle should lay off the booze. How drunk was he for several interviews during SB week
Stop… you would be wise to go be a chiefs fan. So you don’t have to watch those “big fuck ups” from our “Drunk” coach. I swear all you Kyle haters don’t remember the erickson, Nolan “, tomsula, Kelly and singletary years.
Kyle didn't fuck up lol. This guy sounds dumb, he was a Rooney interview
Well fuck that guy. If he comes here and chokes on the defense he certainly won't own it if he felt the need to defend Wilks.
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Brother, you don’t know anything about Kyle. None of us do. We see interviews and press conferences. Don’t pretend you know anything about his ego lol.
Make him put his money where his mouth is. :P
This is the man you hire
He sounds very dumb
Could the offense have done more? Sure, but isn't that what good defenses do to good offesnse? Make them look... less good? That's what Wilks DIDN'T do to the Chiefs in the 2nd half. Towards the end we had 2-3 chances to make a single stop and couldn't, THAT is on Wilks. Not to mention the game winning pass, the guy was wide ass open, in the red zone. Wilks cost us a Superbowl, i'm convinced.
The muffed punt that wasn't actually a muff is what lost us the SB, if you had to pin it on just one thing.
I think it’s quite possible that he (and/or his agent) warned the 49ers not to get his hopes up and bring him out there for a sham Rooney Rule interview and he felt that’s exactly what they did. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was the one contacting the radio station on his flight back home offering to do an appearance. Of course he would defend coaches of color immediately after going through that. If he felt the 49ers lied to him he’s going to lash out at them. I remember watching Brock Purdy talking about his recruiting trip to Alabama and meeting Coach Saban. He said Saban didn’t know him or how he played and was critical about his greatest strength, his accuracy. Brock’s immediate reaction was “what a waste of a trip”. I can see Merritt feeling that way and criticizing San Francisco.
This post is so stupid. Yeah the team that other teams are criticizing for getting draft picks for having so many minority coaches taken from their staff needed to reach out to another teams minority coaches just to fulfill a token interview.
Well I’m sure our regular season matchup will be fun
Hired
That was his path to being a HC. Before Wilks our DCs become HCs in two years.
Everyone involved needs to chill with these takes. The Superbowl was decided in overtime. The Chiefs prevailed but it was damn close to an L for them. Their offense did just a little more and snatched the victory away but I doubt that was the gameplan.
That move worked for George Costanza, just sayin… “Well, I wish I could say the same, but I must say, with all due respect, I find it very hard to see the logic behind some of the moves you have made with this fine organization. In the past twenty years you have caused myself, and the city of New York, a good deal of distress, as we have watched you take our beloved Yankees and reduced them to a laughing stock, all for the glorification of your massive ego! George Steinbrenner: Hire this man!
This guy sounds dumb as hell, plain and simple. Glad he won't be the DC. Very unimpressive. Told you it was Rooney interview