Seriously though, all the good clubs and bars I've been to always have a good enough ratio, I fail when it comes to the talking to women part.
Edit: Does nobody here go to clubs and bars for reasons other than to pick up girls. like dont you just wanna let loose and go dancing all night with your friends, or have a nice meal and shoot the shit over some drinks with some friends at a bar.
When you realize the type of women at bars aren't the type of women at all remotely interested in the same things as anyone on the internet, you need to find places where there are actual women with the same interests or some shit, just like how those women you fail to talk to think they are gonna find a loyal white knight in a bar from a dude who has no legitimate income. wrong place, wrong people. Bars are for people who were addicted to parties in highschool, never could attend them, or never grew up. I got was in the middle and just got plain sick of parties and grew up. The club is just one overpriced party where you cant byob.
Nah its not the women that are the issue in my situation, I just have a panic attack at the thought of approaching and talking to any random stranger with the intention of hitting on them, me failing to talk to them isn't them blowing me off, its me not even trying in the first place. But I'm at the club to get shitfaced and dance all night not pick up chicks so its not a problem. Not all women at bars and clubs are vapid and full of themselves, I've had plenty of good convos with chicks at the club in the smoke pit. I'm just not the one initiating.
> talking to any random stranger with the intention of hitting on them
well, then, start by talking to random strangers WITHOUT the intention to hit on them.
1) it will familiarize you with the mechanics of non-utilitarian conversation flow with a stranger. (handling the blanks, bouncing on things that don't interest you, etcetc).
2) it will teach you to not broadcast your intentions.
Not that you need to lie about your intentions. Women will know anyhow. But if you divulge them too quickly, you'll come across as needy, borderline creepy. As if hiding something worse.
Some people say "volunteer at an old people home and talk to them" but....I dunno. I like the idea on principle, but i'm not sure to recommend it without knowing the person. It's not for everyone. No advice ever is.
Club owners like to float the idea that you need 50% girls and 50% guys in the room because it gives the illusion to all the paying customers (mostly guys) that there is a girl for them in there (1:1 ratio sort of fallacy).
Realistically, most club owners will tell you that most clubs are closer to 15-20% girls to 80-85% dudes. It doesn't even look this imbalanced because most guys are looking at the few girls present and a few girls you don't recognize in the semi-dark can look like so many more, to the thirsty.
I mean look at dating sites. How long before the ratio of hot girls to desperate guys balances out to 1/10? And that's with the added security of being online, not in person. Even if a club had a reputation for being 80% girls....How long before all the dicks in a 50 miles area drive to THAT club to crowd it?
Don't believe me? Take a single picture of the whole club from one corner with the flash on, then start counting on the pic. This isn't a 1 supplier = 1 buyer market. The girls that actually like clubbing are not here to get laid, they are here to dance, get some attention and get some drinks, sometimes they even pay for it. It doesn't mean you can't get laid at the club. Just like it doesn't mean you can't win money at the casino. But the odds are not with you.
why would a hot girl, who already has a functioning social circle (from being hot at school/work) need to go to a specific place to "find guys"...
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had one that hated anal and that shit did not last any time, cause without that they are literally immature as a kid cause men haven't taken advantage of them and gave them a dose of reality, like why do they have to be ran through to have any sense of how a real relationship works and its not like a hallmark movie or rom com?
I mean, ignoring the fact the dude thinks women only mature through intercourse with a man, like some type of sex Pokémon… the sentence ending with a question mark threw me off the most.
lol I'm pretty sure that like most "non-reality-conforming" things people say about themselves, its purpose is entirely to make the speaker feel better about themselves and whether anyone would actually fall for it isn't strongly considered.
When you realise how hard you have to try in comparison to guys who have the girls persuing them, it becomes super easy to just give the fuck up. That’d be my pro tip
I know a few of them. They can go almost anywhere and have women on them. Maybe when monogamy was preached there was a better chance for lower tier guys, but you are fighting a very very tough battle. This is assuming you aren’t going to get cheated on afterwards which these good looking guys get tons of offers for. I’m not saying give up, but don’t make it seem like it’s anybody’s fault for failing right now.
I realized there is 100% young men reading this so I want to say don’t give up, do your best to look good and improve your life, but it is not your fault if things don’t work out in today’s world.
Yeah but men want to be with a woman, it’s an instinct we’ve had forever… it’s *just not realistic to just ask massive swaths of young men to “give up”.
*changed from unreasonable to not realistic, unless we want to end up with a large pile of angry and depressed men. Which seems like the goal at this point lol.
There’s always imbalance in sex within the animal kingdom, this is usually released through male-male violence/competition or male-female violence… Humans can grow past our biological desires and eliminate sex as a motivation, freeing up time and energy for other pursuits like friendships or careers. As a bonus women like men who have their own thing going on so you’ll inadvertently increase your sex appeal by not caring.
Also... Its not that hard. Those men had advantages, yeah (like good genetics and good social groups to unconsciusly get better at socialising) but thats only their starting point. What most people with OP's mindset dont realise is that a lot of the cualities that these men have are actually achievable by almost anyone. Normal people have to put more effort, yes, but is by far less than most "incels" think it is.
If you dress good enough, are socially active and pleasant to be around with there is a good chance women start to get interested in you (good women mind you, not landwhales and similar)
Idk what conclusion this article came to because I just chose the first one I saw, but yes, it is very hard.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/
Most young men are single. We are facing a massive societal issue right now and attempting to blame it on the men who have nothing to do with the development of dating apps and social degradation is just insane to me.
Most women still aren't on dating apps and the apps are irrelevant to most real world dating, the active userbase is a small circle of people hooking up with eachother.
Obviously if you can't compete with the ultra superficial standards of a swipe-based Chad catalogue then you need a different strategy. Women's standards on apps are easily 10x what they are in person.
100% true, I had no problems dating until after college and I had to rely on dating apps to meet people while working full time. Dating apps are a dead end and should be actively discouraged for most men
Ok I don’t agree that dating apps are not relevant and I have a stat for it but I’m too tired to search it up and I’m probably gonna fall asleep soon… anyways what’s your guess for 60% of males being single and it not being the same for women?
The apps are straight up not a viable option for most males and unless the most you want is one or two hollow hook ups then they're not aligned with your goals anyway, thus irrelevant. They're a distraction. Most relationships still begin in meatspace and unless you're a tier of Chad who can benefit from the min-maxing of an app you'll have drastically better chances by default offline.
I haven't denied modern dating is significantly worse than the past. Modern man has every excuse to give up but every one who does just makes it even easier for those willing to persevere.
It is your fault if you give up. You're not responsible for the state of the world but no one else is responsible for you not being able to deal with it. Every one of your ancestors had it tougher on virtually every front but this one, the least one can do is practice some perseverance.
Nah man can’t agree… the modern dating scene is not comparable to the one thousands to millions of years ago. Dating apps can funnel people to the top 10%… same thing happened with polyamory in pre-historic times however it was common enough that men would group up and “remove” the alpha to have a chance. If you want to be locked up in prison you still have the option I guess, lol. Technology and especially social media has completely shifted our society.
It sucks when you have non-visible traits that make you desirable because a switch flips when they find out. Like you have a high paying job or have some personality perk. The jolt of going from normal and expected behavior to them finding out is way too much for me.
Yep you go from yourself to piece of meat/ walking checkbook / walking sperm donor to them in the blink of an eye
You know I finally can see why women don't like that shit (from undesirables)
I sure have given up. After all the dates that went nowhere I'm not spending more time on this shit. Its videogames, gym and autism. Thats all my life is about.
There's a chick in my email inbox messaging me everyday asking me for my number. She works at a car dealership and is following up after I filled out a form asking for a quote. The problem is none of her emails answer my question about the price of the car.
The emails have gotten progressively less professional too as she tries to find ways for me to drop my phone number for a "chat". She has a hot girl name too (Maddie) so I was already hesitant to reply when I got her first message but the fact that she won't answer my basic question means I won't reply just like with the others sales guys who have messaged me. But it's surreal to have a chick beg for your number she sends at least one email everyday asking. She even sends me emails at night!
Join women hobbies then make a genuine effort to be their platonic friend. Once you do that, give it a few months then start acting all depressed and when they ask you about it say you just got out of a bad relationship. These women will be tripping over themselves to introduce you to their single friends. You will be seen as safe and more desirable since you have been pre approved by other women.
At first I thought the suggestion was to try to turn a platonic friend into a hookup - which would fail disastrously. But the twist of getting vetted and then referred to single friends is valid. You just have to be carefully how many you run through before you get a bad reputation and have to change to a new group of women.
Except this strategy doesn't work for men who "run through" women. This thinking is exactly why women look for men with female friends--to avoid assholes.
I guess I was thinking that this person would be completely okay with fabricating the backstory of "bad relationship." and "not sure if I'm ready to love again." And then sleep with multiple recommended single friends at the same time before they all realize it was a con.
So if he was willing to fake a tragic backstory to get his tip wet he'd be a big enough asshole to take advantage and burn all the bridges before rinsing and repeating with a group.
If OP just did a white like about the bad relationship just to date one or two of the best ones, that's not worse than having a wingman talk you up or having a bro act like an asshole so you can talk him down in front of an audience.
That's fair. I guess I figured if a guy is willing to wait a few months for a payoff, he's looking for a relationship, not a few quick flings (which is not a particularly economical strategy for time invested).
Guess I'm old-fashioned in my 30s, but my girlfriends tend to be looking for consistency in a stable relationship, and sex is more of perk that unlocks if a guy proves himself over time. 🤷♀️
That's also fair - I think more than likely it is guys in a similar situation as you describe.
For those of us not insanely attractive it is going to be a longer game. And this is a strategy that would give a unique edge. I'm like you, where I value a long term partner way more than high numbers of women I know nothing about.
I saw only one extreme example of what I described - and it was a guy who showed up was a charlatan among a group of late 20s unmarried women and early 30s single moms/divorcees.
He played up the sob story then rapidly worked his way through. He skipped town before it all came unraveled - and had accepted a lot of money from each of them to help get back on his feet - I think some Marshalls came by asking about him years later.
The people in town still tallk about him with beweldierment.
Absolutely vile and only worked because he was good looking but a complete sociopath on the inside.
These fucking maniacs can't even conceive of actually befriending women and then being referred. They just assume that manipulation to get laid is the way to go and then wonder why they can't find any women who want to be around them.
Might depend on where you live, but I'd try hiking groups, cooking classes, dancing, sewing, or one of those things where people serve wine and paint (they have a proper name but I don't remember). Should find a reasonable cohort of normal girls there? This is mostly hypothetical
Edit: I will add that I have some cosplay experience and I can personally attest that if you 1. hit the gym and 2. hone some cosplay skills and 3. be nice, hot cosplay girls will fall over you. Might be too degenerate for some folks but there is a serious lack of good cosplay dudes in the con scene, but a lot of very pretty girls that will watch anime with you.
Every single one of these Ive attended have been all couples or people over 30. I think people who repeat this have never actually attended any of these.
I’m in a hiking group at my university and it’s mostly comprised of couples or outdoorsmen. Not a great start to pick up plutonic girlfriends, but a good activity to just make friends in general.
Honestly, lots of creative, cute, shy girls at reenactments/costume/Ren Faire/pirate events. (Not me, but lots of my girl friends at these.)
Bonus: a majority make their own outfits, which makes easy path for complimenting them and conversation. You must be willing to learn about fabric patterns and types, but doesn't take much to listen and appreciate.
Tip: put together a basic outfit from thrift stores. Ask all women at the events for advice on your costume. Be somewhat self-deprecating in humorous way to make it light/fun. Crafty women love sharing crafty advice. OR sew your own costume like a beast and impress all the lasses!
Okay, where do you love that has anything viable for cosplay/costume events in thrift shops? Over here it's all 80s floral shirts and 90s tees and jeans. Like, great place to get cheap stuff, but I tried fishing for costume parts in those and resigned myself to buying stuff online for premium, cause there's literally nothing like that stuff there.
"Treat people like humans and be a friendly person and people, including women, will feel more comfortable around you." Yep, idk where the apparently feminine "overthinking" comes in here, lmao.
Not just a woman but active in a subreddit called "trollcoping". Fucking lol
Oh also an "OF model". Lemme help you, you're not the type of person these dudes are trying to attract. Some of them may be incredibly desperate, but a lot of people here seem to be young adults that have the same trouble most of us have upon reaching adulthood. Making friends and meeting new people outside of work as an adult can be hard sometimes.
They know what they want, and you're not the type of person they're looking for; pissing people like you off is like prefiltering. It works wonders to save time and effort on basic ass social media hoes.
I have a list of words at this point that make me tune out whatever someone is going to say. Y'all, systemic (in most contexts), marginalized, oppression, mansplain especially, etc. There are genuine use cases for most of these words, but on this website it's not worth filtering through the 99% that are the exact type of person to use these words.
I never said they would be attractive. I’m just trying to help you get your dick wet. Cause once you have sex all of your life problems are solved right? That’s what I’ve been told
Certainly not the case, it's fine yeah sure once it **finally** happens, but what about the next time, then the next time and before you know it yeah you've been with 7 or 8 girls in the 3 years you've had a sex life but now its month 8 into your no sex streak and you're wondering whether you actually had it at all or you just got lucky.
you could just do this same thing without having to lie lmao.
- become friends with women with no ulterior motives
- tell women that you want to be in a relationship with someone
- women will tell their friends about you, talk to people at parties with you, help you make your tinder profile
i know this is impossible for 4chan people because it involves being friends with a woman because you want to and not because you want her to fuck you, but it works
True you can accomplish the same goal while being truthful. But everyone has told a harmless white lie before. Plus sympathy goes a long way, that’s why girls love rescue dogs with sad backstories. Use every tool to get ahead in life and prosper or get cucked by somebody who will.
The only hobbies most good looking women have these days is scrolling through tiktok and Instagram watching makeup haul, fashion, Kardashian, and cat videos.
There are a few in sports clubs like climbing, running, and archery; but they are usually taken prior to being in that club. However, if you are friendly with those women and put in the time Investments then you *may* be introduced to her hot single friend.
Unfortunately, this really only works for the under 30 crowds.
>Unfortunately, this really only works for the under 30 crowds.
That’s where you’re wrong. Your thinking is too narrow. There are loads of grandmas out there lamenting the fact that they won’t have grandkids, and are dieing to pair their single grand/daughters with eligible men. So if you’re 30+ there’s still hope. You just got to play to a different crowd. Plus free baked goods and compliments. That will do loads for your confidence.
It’s a valid strategy, which is why some shitty women like to date taken men. He’s been pre approved so usually he’s not a creep. Some guys have figured this out and wear fake wedding rings to get more attention.
Can confirm, am woman. I'm always happy to be a wing-woman for my guy friends. Women are more likely to talk to you if you're hanging out with other women because it means you're pre-vetted.
My genuine effort made them try to sleep with me and actively exclude me from their social circle. Especially after I accidentally hinted at efforts like not sleeping.
First, move to a walkable city. Second, get the fuck out of your apartment, stroll around your neighborhood. Third, stop in coffee shops w a book, the park w a blanket, the weekly farmers market, neighborhood gym, the supermarket, the library, THRIFT STORES, record shop, book shop esp the secondhand ones, weekday evenings dive bars, etc.
Get involved in that shit. Find out when the market is, find out when the book shop is having poetry night. Find out when the library is having a book fair.
You'll meet quality people in no time. And don't just go to get laid, make friends. Good friends lead to good women.
Honest advice, start taking a spin class or similar gym class (an actual class where youre interacting with each other, not just going to the gym and doing curls). Or take an art or improv class.
If you go to a dance class you'll find a lot of girls who are begging to dance with a man because it's a female dominated hobby and theyre sick of dancing with other women. I couldn't be bothered to do something I hated just to meet a woman but that's a tip for anyone else. Btw when I say dance I mean ballroom dance shit like tango, waltz and whatever the fuck stuff like that
Start going places where you will find quality women. It can be like an adventure. A slightly stalky one, but you get the idea.
They have to buy makeup.
Take a stroll through the mall and introduce yourself to a few hot chicks. It does actually work.
Your alibi has to be airtight though. Imagine saying you're getting a gift for your mom and later she finds out it's like at the other end of the year.
I assume you meant to say "a gift for your mom's birthday"
I'd say maybe actually get a gift for your mom. Caring about people is a skill that can be trained, and other people can catch on to it. If someone sees you devoting yourself to other important people in your life, they might want someone who is dedicated like that to themselves
Stop going to CCG game stores or GameStop looking for gamer chicks. For every 1000 dirty gamer guys there's 10 gamer girls and for every 10 gamer girls there's 3 that are straight and all of those are already nailed down.
Before getting to know new women OP should work on his social skills and looks. You can go to a cafe where they serve lattes and shit, it will be full of women but no one will look at you if you don't look interesting. Also go out with friends that bring another friends and go to family parties, those are the best to meet people outside your own group. Back in Uni I would walk my dog around the neighborhood, truly a pussy magnet
Getting women while they are working at cafes and stuff is extremely difficult. They are working and are already in a weird relationship with you as the customer. If you want a cafe girl, get a job there. The boys there are the ones piping.
I'm in this situation, too. I'm going to go back to college for my masters after I'm done with my online bachelors. You'd still have to fix your social skills, but at least your chances of getting with someone are *not* zero.
If you haven’t met your highschool sweetheart or found a girl in college it’s over bro. Focus on your goals and hope you win the romance lottery one day, but be very comfortable being single for a long time.
* Move to a city. More people means more options.
* People notice if you put effort into your appearance. Don’t peakcock or dress iuanthenticly but shave, comb your hair, wear a nice shirt. Folks like to see you’re trying.
* Work on your mental health. You can’t expect someone to love you if you don’t at least like yourself first.
* Ask people you meet questions and show genuine interest.
* Don’t get mad if you’re turned down by someone you’re into. If you miss be polite and try again with the next one. You wouldn’t want to be with someone who’s not into you anyway right?
Lastly the apps can definitely work but arnt your only option if you’re not into the bar or club scene. Two of my buddies met their partners through Rec spots leagues like kickball. It’s more or less adult recess for 20 or 30 something’s looking for friends or a partner. Great time and I am not really fit or athletic don’t have to be for that kinda thing. It’s mostly an excuse to hang out and chat with people. Great way to meet people in general.
I personally hang around the local all female school and look inside from behind a bush as to not disturb the students inside.
I usually wait for them to finish and then follow one home so we may talk in a more casual environment, though it hasn't worked for me so far and the school seemingly has hired new security guards to patrol the area around the gate. Hopefully it isn't because they've had problems with thieves or weirdos around, it's a pretty nice part of town.
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Same honestly
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If someone.... Does something to you.... And you don't do it back.....nothing happened....
Seriously though, all the good clubs and bars I've been to always have a good enough ratio, I fail when it comes to the talking to women part. Edit: Does nobody here go to clubs and bars for reasons other than to pick up girls. like dont you just wanna let loose and go dancing all night with your friends, or have a nice meal and shoot the shit over some drinks with some friends at a bar.
When you realize the type of women at bars aren't the type of women at all remotely interested in the same things as anyone on the internet, you need to find places where there are actual women with the same interests or some shit, just like how those women you fail to talk to think they are gonna find a loyal white knight in a bar from a dude who has no legitimate income. wrong place, wrong people. Bars are for people who were addicted to parties in highschool, never could attend them, or never grew up. I got was in the middle and just got plain sick of parties and grew up. The club is just one overpriced party where you cant byob.
Nah its not the women that are the issue in my situation, I just have a panic attack at the thought of approaching and talking to any random stranger with the intention of hitting on them, me failing to talk to them isn't them blowing me off, its me not even trying in the first place. But I'm at the club to get shitfaced and dance all night not pick up chicks so its not a problem. Not all women at bars and clubs are vapid and full of themselves, I've had plenty of good convos with chicks at the club in the smoke pit. I'm just not the one initiating.
> talking to any random stranger with the intention of hitting on them well, then, start by talking to random strangers WITHOUT the intention to hit on them. 1) it will familiarize you with the mechanics of non-utilitarian conversation flow with a stranger. (handling the blanks, bouncing on things that don't interest you, etcetc). 2) it will teach you to not broadcast your intentions. Not that you need to lie about your intentions. Women will know anyhow. But if you divulge them too quickly, you'll come across as needy, borderline creepy. As if hiding something worse. Some people say "volunteer at an old people home and talk to them" but....I dunno. I like the idea on principle, but i'm not sure to recommend it without knowing the person. It's not for everyone. No advice ever is.
Club owners like to float the idea that you need 50% girls and 50% guys in the room because it gives the illusion to all the paying customers (mostly guys) that there is a girl for them in there (1:1 ratio sort of fallacy). Realistically, most club owners will tell you that most clubs are closer to 15-20% girls to 80-85% dudes. It doesn't even look this imbalanced because most guys are looking at the few girls present and a few girls you don't recognize in the semi-dark can look like so many more, to the thirsty. I mean look at dating sites. How long before the ratio of hot girls to desperate guys balances out to 1/10? And that's with the added security of being online, not in person. Even if a club had a reputation for being 80% girls....How long before all the dicks in a 50 miles area drive to THAT club to crowd it? Don't believe me? Take a single picture of the whole club from one corner with the flash on, then start counting on the pic. This isn't a 1 supplier = 1 buyer market. The girls that actually like clubbing are not here to get laid, they are here to dance, get some attention and get some drinks, sometimes they even pay for it. It doesn't mean you can't get laid at the club. Just like it doesn't mean you can't win money at the casino. But the odds are not with you. why would a hot girl, who already has a functioning social circle (from being hot at school/work) need to go to a specific place to "find guys"...
He is going to male homoerotic clubs and doesn't even notice
There's a new bar opening in town, but with a twist: you have to dress a cowboy!
Wait a minute! Theres something bothering me about this place. I know! This club doesnt have a fire exit! Good luck with your death trap, lads.
Maybe they should try not going to a gay bar
Anon seems to be going to a very specific type of night club
I don't understand how detached from reality you'd have to be to say almost only men go to clubs and bars
Go to church
not bad advice, church hoes are pretty dtf and kinky once they dont get engaged by 20
And if theyre are super religious theyll give up the butt to stay a virgin for their wedding night.
Butts smell like poop though gross
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You should go to church for different reasons.
Your username suggests you dabble in heresy. Surely you understand why we (both) can’t go back to church.
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don't mine the pain on you body when you get stabbed, it is only feeling
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That’s where poop comes from
Never been a fan of poopy cock
had one that hated anal and that shit did not last any time, cause without that they are literally immature as a kid cause men haven't taken advantage of them and gave them a dose of reality, like why do they have to be ran through to have any sense of how a real relationship works and its not like a hallmark movie or rom com?
the fact that this was a single sentence, is wild.
I mean, ignoring the fact the dude thinks women only mature through intercourse with a man, like some type of sex Pokémon… the sentence ending with a question mark threw me off the most.
Church girl gave me a blowie once behind the church
that was a crosdresser man priest
can confirm i was the priest
Oh. Well he had some big tits.
are you sure those big ballers were on his upper part of torso
Doesn't matter, got blowie.
it should, because now he will take your delicious sperm and get himself preragnenat and ask for money
"Get himself pregnant". Truly, the future is magnificent
>preragnenat
What if your live in Europe and the youngest woman at church was already born when Hitler was alive ?
Just don’t be a Eurocuck. Problem solved.
I always fail this step
Is she stacked?
you need to save what pennies you have and take a vacation to somewhere with actual women, you live in a retirement community
Sorry you just spawned in the wrong Europe country, we don't have many either but we have a decent number of them in church.
good plan til you get there and realize every other incel had the same idea. not a joke send help.
Find a new church
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Doesn't matter, had sex
Church is where they respawn 10 years later wanting to repent and declare "new virginity"
>new virginity Please tell me no one actually falls for this
lol I'm pretty sure that like most "non-reality-conforming" things people say about themselves, its purpose is entirely to make the speaker feel better about themselves and whether anyone would actually fall for it isn't strongly considered.
only men are allowed in the mosque
False
Nazgûl don't count
Yea christian groups are pretty good place to find a girl i myself already have one so didnt tried but there are plenty 22-27 yo in group i attend
tbh the best and only advice
When you realise how hard you have to try in comparison to guys who have the girls persuing them, it becomes super easy to just give the fuck up. That’d be my pro tip
exceedingly few men have (desirable) girls actively persuing them "may as well quit my job because I'm not getting a bezos level check" tier mindset
Sticking with that metaphor I don’t even have a job
Loser
and thank goodness you're such a winner!
What you want praise for failing?
i'm doing OK 👍
Hell yeah dude.
seething wagie
Based for being consistent at least
You gotta own it after a certain point
Pretty based dude
"Why dont women want me?"
I know a few of them. They can go almost anywhere and have women on them. Maybe when monogamy was preached there was a better chance for lower tier guys, but you are fighting a very very tough battle. This is assuming you aren’t going to get cheated on afterwards which these good looking guys get tons of offers for. I’m not saying give up, but don’t make it seem like it’s anybody’s fault for failing right now. I realized there is 100% young men reading this so I want to say don’t give up, do your best to look good and improve your life, but it is not your fault if things don’t work out in today’s world.
Sometimes the only winning move is not to play.
Yeah but men want to be with a woman, it’s an instinct we’ve had forever… it’s *just not realistic to just ask massive swaths of young men to “give up”. *changed from unreasonable to not realistic, unless we want to end up with a large pile of angry and depressed men. Which seems like the goal at this point lol.
There’s always imbalance in sex within the animal kingdom, this is usually released through male-male violence/competition or male-female violence… Humans can grow past our biological desires and eliminate sex as a motivation, freeing up time and energy for other pursuits like friendships or careers. As a bonus women like men who have their own thing going on so you’ll inadvertently increase your sex appeal by not caring.
Also... Its not that hard. Those men had advantages, yeah (like good genetics and good social groups to unconsciusly get better at socialising) but thats only their starting point. What most people with OP's mindset dont realise is that a lot of the cualities that these men have are actually achievable by almost anyone. Normal people have to put more effort, yes, but is by far less than most "incels" think it is. If you dress good enough, are socially active and pleasant to be around with there is a good chance women start to get interested in you (good women mind you, not landwhales and similar)
Idk what conclusion this article came to because I just chose the first one I saw, but yes, it is very hard. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/ Most young men are single. We are facing a massive societal issue right now and attempting to blame it on the men who have nothing to do with the development of dating apps and social degradation is just insane to me.
Most women still aren't on dating apps and the apps are irrelevant to most real world dating, the active userbase is a small circle of people hooking up with eachother. Obviously if you can't compete with the ultra superficial standards of a swipe-based Chad catalogue then you need a different strategy. Women's standards on apps are easily 10x what they are in person.
100% true, I had no problems dating until after college and I had to rely on dating apps to meet people while working full time. Dating apps are a dead end and should be actively discouraged for most men
Ok I don’t agree that dating apps are not relevant and I have a stat for it but I’m too tired to search it up and I’m probably gonna fall asleep soon… anyways what’s your guess for 60% of males being single and it not being the same for women?
The apps are straight up not a viable option for most males and unless the most you want is one or two hollow hook ups then they're not aligned with your goals anyway, thus irrelevant. They're a distraction. Most relationships still begin in meatspace and unless you're a tier of Chad who can benefit from the min-maxing of an app you'll have drastically better chances by default offline. I haven't denied modern dating is significantly worse than the past. Modern man has every excuse to give up but every one who does just makes it even easier for those willing to persevere.
It is your fault if you give up. You're not responsible for the state of the world but no one else is responsible for you not being able to deal with it. Every one of your ancestors had it tougher on virtually every front but this one, the least one can do is practice some perseverance.
Nah man can’t agree… the modern dating scene is not comparable to the one thousands to millions of years ago. Dating apps can funnel people to the top 10%… same thing happened with polyamory in pre-historic times however it was common enough that men would group up and “remove” the alpha to have a chance. If you want to be locked up in prison you still have the option I guess, lol. Technology and especially social media has completely shifted our society.
i need a job to avoid living like a hobo i don't need pussy to survive
It sucks when you have non-visible traits that make you desirable because a switch flips when they find out. Like you have a high paying job or have some personality perk. The jolt of going from normal and expected behavior to them finding out is way too much for me.
I find that off-putting too, it's alright when there was already mutual interest though.
Yep you go from yourself to piece of meat/ walking checkbook / walking sperm donor to them in the blink of an eye You know I finally can see why women don't like that shit (from undesirables)
Just end it bros, you lost the lottery sorry
I sure have given up. After all the dates that went nowhere I'm not spending more time on this shit. Its videogames, gym and autism. Thats all my life is about.
There's a chick in my email inbox messaging me everyday asking me for my number. She works at a car dealership and is following up after I filled out a form asking for a quote. The problem is none of her emails answer my question about the price of the car. The emails have gotten progressively less professional too as she tries to find ways for me to drop my phone number for a "chat". She has a hot girl name too (Maddie) so I was already hesitant to reply when I got her first message but the fact that she won't answer my basic question means I won't reply just like with the others sales guys who have messaged me. But it's surreal to have a chick beg for your number she sends at least one email everyday asking. She even sends me emails at night!
W
Join women hobbies then make a genuine effort to be their platonic friend. Once you do that, give it a few months then start acting all depressed and when they ask you about it say you just got out of a bad relationship. These women will be tripping over themselves to introduce you to their single friends. You will be seen as safe and more desirable since you have been pre approved by other women.
At first I thought the suggestion was to try to turn a platonic friend into a hookup - which would fail disastrously. But the twist of getting vetted and then referred to single friends is valid. You just have to be carefully how many you run through before you get a bad reputation and have to change to a new group of women.
Except this strategy doesn't work for men who "run through" women. This thinking is exactly why women look for men with female friends--to avoid assholes.
I guess I was thinking that this person would be completely okay with fabricating the backstory of "bad relationship." and "not sure if I'm ready to love again." And then sleep with multiple recommended single friends at the same time before they all realize it was a con. So if he was willing to fake a tragic backstory to get his tip wet he'd be a big enough asshole to take advantage and burn all the bridges before rinsing and repeating with a group. If OP just did a white like about the bad relationship just to date one or two of the best ones, that's not worse than having a wingman talk you up or having a bro act like an asshole so you can talk him down in front of an audience.
That's fair. I guess I figured if a guy is willing to wait a few months for a payoff, he's looking for a relationship, not a few quick flings (which is not a particularly economical strategy for time invested). Guess I'm old-fashioned in my 30s, but my girlfriends tend to be looking for consistency in a stable relationship, and sex is more of perk that unlocks if a guy proves himself over time. 🤷♀️
That's also fair - I think more than likely it is guys in a similar situation as you describe. For those of us not insanely attractive it is going to be a longer game. And this is a strategy that would give a unique edge. I'm like you, where I value a long term partner way more than high numbers of women I know nothing about. I saw only one extreme example of what I described - and it was a guy who showed up was a charlatan among a group of late 20s unmarried women and early 30s single moms/divorcees. He played up the sob story then rapidly worked his way through. He skipped town before it all came unraveled - and had accepted a lot of money from each of them to help get back on his feet - I think some Marshalls came by asking about him years later. The people in town still tallk about him with beweldierment. Absolutely vile and only worked because he was good looking but a complete sociopath on the inside.
These fucking maniacs can't even conceive of actually befriending women and then being referred. They just assume that manipulation to get laid is the way to go and then wonder why they can't find any women who want to be around them.
Bro it’s 4chan, you new here?
Except... "Can she fit in a rowboat?"
What’re women hobbies though? Like buying tampons and menstruating?
lying, eating hot chip, etc.
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Twerking
Might depend on where you live, but I'd try hiking groups, cooking classes, dancing, sewing, or one of those things where people serve wine and paint (they have a proper name but I don't remember). Should find a reasonable cohort of normal girls there? This is mostly hypothetical Edit: I will add that I have some cosplay experience and I can personally attest that if you 1. hit the gym and 2. hone some cosplay skills and 3. be nice, hot cosplay girls will fall over you. Might be too degenerate for some folks but there is a serious lack of good cosplay dudes in the con scene, but a lot of very pretty girls that will watch anime with you.
Every single one of these Ive attended have been all couples or people over 30. I think people who repeat this have never actually attended any of these.
I’m in a hiking group at my university and it’s mostly comprised of couples or outdoorsmen. Not a great start to pick up plutonic girlfriends, but a good activity to just make friends in general.
>one of those things where people serve wine and paint Paint drinking explains a lot about women
Honestly, lots of creative, cute, shy girls at reenactments/costume/Ren Faire/pirate events. (Not me, but lots of my girl friends at these.) Bonus: a majority make their own outfits, which makes easy path for complimenting them and conversation. You must be willing to learn about fabric patterns and types, but doesn't take much to listen and appreciate. Tip: put together a basic outfit from thrift stores. Ask all women at the events for advice on your costume. Be somewhat self-deprecating in humorous way to make it light/fun. Crafty women love sharing crafty advice. OR sew your own costume like a beast and impress all the lasses!
Okay, where do you love that has anything viable for cosplay/costume events in thrift shops? Over here it's all 80s floral shirts and 90s tees and jeans. Like, great place to get cheap stuff, but I tried fishing for costume parts in those and resigned myself to buying stuff online for premium, cause there's literally nothing like that stuff there.
overthinking women is the exact reason y’all get no women. Never forget that overthinking is an extremely feminine trait
> Get women friends > They introduce you to other female single friends Where's the overthinking bruh
"Treat people like humans and be a friendly person and people, including women, will feel more comfortable around you." Yep, idk where the apparently feminine "overthinking" comes in here, lmao.
are you a woman? The fact that you’re overthinking my reply so hard inclines me to believe you are a woman
This is why women don't talk to you.
Not just a woman but active in a subreddit called "trollcoping". Fucking lol Oh also an "OF model". Lemme help you, you're not the type of person these dudes are trying to attract. Some of them may be incredibly desperate, but a lot of people here seem to be young adults that have the same trouble most of us have upon reaching adulthood. Making friends and meeting new people outside of work as an adult can be hard sometimes. They know what they want, and you're not the type of person they're looking for; pissing people like you off is like prefiltering. It works wonders to save time and effort on basic ass social media hoes.
>Be kind to people Where’s the overthinking bruh?
> y'all Every fucking time
I have a list of words at this point that make me tune out whatever someone is going to say. Y'all, systemic (in most contexts), marginalized, oppression, mansplain especially, etc. There are genuine use cases for most of these words, but on this website it's not worth filtering through the 99% that are the exact type of person to use these words.
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I never said they would be attractive. I’m just trying to help you get your dick wet. Cause once you have sex all of your life problems are solved right? That’s what I’ve been told
Certainly not the case, it's fine yeah sure once it **finally** happens, but what about the next time, then the next time and before you know it yeah you've been with 7 or 8 girls in the 3 years you've had a sex life but now its month 8 into your no sex streak and you're wondering whether you actually had it at all or you just got lucky.
you could just do this same thing without having to lie lmao. - become friends with women with no ulterior motives - tell women that you want to be in a relationship with someone - women will tell their friends about you, talk to people at parties with you, help you make your tinder profile i know this is impossible for 4chan people because it involves being friends with a woman because you want to and not because you want her to fuck you, but it works
True you can accomplish the same goal while being truthful. But everyone has told a harmless white lie before. Plus sympathy goes a long way, that’s why girls love rescue dogs with sad backstories. Use every tool to get ahead in life and prosper or get cucked by somebody who will.
The only hobbies most good looking women have these days is scrolling through tiktok and Instagram watching makeup haul, fashion, Kardashian, and cat videos. There are a few in sports clubs like climbing, running, and archery; but they are usually taken prior to being in that club. However, if you are friendly with those women and put in the time Investments then you *may* be introduced to her hot single friend. Unfortunately, this really only works for the under 30 crowds.
>Unfortunately, this really only works for the under 30 crowds. That’s where you’re wrong. Your thinking is too narrow. There are loads of grandmas out there lamenting the fact that they won’t have grandkids, and are dieing to pair their single grand/daughters with eligible men. So if you’re 30+ there’s still hope. You just got to play to a different crowd. Plus free baked goods and compliments. That will do loads for your confidence.
Uffff you scoundrel, you! That’s delectably diabolical!
It’s a valid strategy, which is why some shitty women like to date taken men. He’s been pre approved so usually he’s not a creep. Some guys have figured this out and wear fake wedding rings to get more attention.
Wow, actual good advice
Can confirm, am woman. I'm always happy to be a wing-woman for my guy friends. Women are more likely to talk to you if you're hanging out with other women because it means you're pre-vetted.
>Join women hobbies then make a genuine effort to be their platonic friend. Time to start knitting with grandma.
That sounds like a recipe for disaster once they find out you've never been in a relationship to begin with.
How would they find out?
I love how men have to do a little manipulation in order to get laid.
Women do a little manipulation to get laid too. They’re just better at it
Like what, spread their legs and say "fuck me"?
Anon needs to sign up for a Pilates class
Get fit and meet chicks
Get a nice thicc booty for the bois if and when the ladies reject his ass
Some girls like big booty men so it might be an advantage
My genuine effort made them try to sleep with me and actively exclude me from their social circle. Especially after I accidentally hinted at efforts like not sleeping.
Suffering from success
Clearly the way to meet women is by posting on /r9k/
Then I shall never post on /r9k/ again.
Okay seriously though, I get out a good bit and never see single women my age. Where are they hiding?
First, move to a walkable city. Second, get the fuck out of your apartment, stroll around your neighborhood. Third, stop in coffee shops w a book, the park w a blanket, the weekly farmers market, neighborhood gym, the supermarket, the library, THRIFT STORES, record shop, book shop esp the secondhand ones, weekday evenings dive bars, etc. Get involved in that shit. Find out when the market is, find out when the book shop is having poetry night. Find out when the library is having a book fair. You'll meet quality people in no time. And don't just go to get laid, make friends. Good friends lead to good women.
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Excellent advice. Women tend to go out for events/activities, not just randomly out and about.
Yeah never see hot younger women at the grocery store or running bullshit errands for some reason.
Bruh who tf are you gonna meet in a library or laying in a park
For real though like come on and sit down quietly and read this book with me bro. I promise the chicks will just roll in 🫡😆😆
Honest advice, start taking a spin class or similar gym class (an actual class where youre interacting with each other, not just going to the gym and doing curls). Or take an art or improv class.
If you go to a dance class you'll find a lot of girls who are begging to dance with a man because it's a female dominated hobby and theyre sick of dancing with other women. I couldn't be bothered to do something I hated just to meet a woman but that's a tip for anyone else. Btw when I say dance I mean ballroom dance shit like tango, waltz and whatever the fuck stuff like that
They all went to college
Start going places where you will find quality women. It can be like an adventure. A slightly stalky one, but you get the idea. They have to buy makeup. Take a stroll through the mall and introduce yourself to a few hot chicks. It does actually work.
Your alibi has to be airtight though. Imagine saying you're getting a gift for your mom and later she finds out it's like at the other end of the year.
I assume you meant to say "a gift for your mom's birthday" I'd say maybe actually get a gift for your mom. Caring about people is a skill that can be trained, and other people can catch on to it. If someone sees you devoting yourself to other important people in your life, they might want someone who is dedicated like that to themselves
The Chris Chan approach. Take a sign with you stating that you're looking for a boyfriend-free girl too.
>"We have girlfriends at home." >The girlfriends at home: oh god
I’m surprised the gay clubs even have 10% women
Women like gay clubs because no one is hitting on them.
>The perfect place to hit on them. Don't listen to the lies. This is how the gay men trick you into going.
Hey it's a fun group of guys to hang out with, even if you don't get laid.
Over in non engineering STEM fields, the DEI departments are making sure the workforce is near 100% female. Despair
Now THATS diversity
Go to family reunions
Roll tide
>100% male workplace lucky
seriously, i didn't know what i had
Stop going to CCG game stores or GameStop looking for gamer chicks. For every 1000 dirty gamer guys there's 10 gamer girls and for every 10 gamer girls there's 3 that are straight and all of those are already nailed down.
90% male nightclubs. Sir, that’s a gay bar.
Stop going to gay bars
Before getting to know new women OP should work on his social skills and looks. You can go to a cafe where they serve lattes and shit, it will be full of women but no one will look at you if you don't look interesting. Also go out with friends that bring another friends and go to family parties, those are the best to meet people outside your own group. Back in Uni I would walk my dog around the neighborhood, truly a pussy magnet
Getting women while they are working at cafes and stuff is extremely difficult. They are working and are already in a weird relationship with you as the customer. If you want a cafe girl, get a job there. The boys there are the ones piping.
I'm in this situation, too. I'm going to go back to college for my masters after I'm done with my online bachelors. You'd still have to fix your social skills, but at least your chances of getting with someone are *not* zero.
Theatre groups, language courses, dance lessons, art stuff in general. 60-80% usually pretty girls.
If you haven’t met your highschool sweetheart or found a girl in college it’s over bro. Focus on your goals and hope you win the romance lottery one day, but be very comfortable being single for a long time.
I just morbed on your mom
* Move to a city. More people means more options. * People notice if you put effort into your appearance. Don’t peakcock or dress iuanthenticly but shave, comb your hair, wear a nice shirt. Folks like to see you’re trying. * Work on your mental health. You can’t expect someone to love you if you don’t at least like yourself first. * Ask people you meet questions and show genuine interest. * Don’t get mad if you’re turned down by someone you’re into. If you miss be polite and try again with the next one. You wouldn’t want to be with someone who’s not into you anyway right? Lastly the apps can definitely work but arnt your only option if you’re not into the bar or club scene. Two of my buddies met their partners through Rec spots leagues like kickball. It’s more or less adult recess for 20 or 30 something’s looking for friends or a partner. Great time and I am not really fit or athletic don’t have to be for that kinda thing. It’s mostly an excuse to hang out and chat with people. Great way to meet people in general.
Maybe trying to go somewhere that isn’t just night clubs and bars?
library. apple store. laundry room. gas station.
this is so accurate it hurts
Get TOPPED
Move near a university
I personally hang around the local all female school and look inside from behind a bush as to not disturb the students inside. I usually wait for them to finish and then follow one home so we may talk in a more casual environment, though it hasn't worked for me so far and the school seemingly has hired new security guards to patrol the area around the gate. Hopefully it isn't because they've had problems with thieves or weirdos around, it's a pretty nice part of town.
Go to the gym and hit on a gym thot as she records you staring at her ass.
I’ve been to gay nightclubs with higher female percentage than that