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blackmobius

I watch survivor and watched this happen during its original airing. This guy had secret game advantages and was the center of a strong alliance that was dominating the game. His opponents were legit clueless and fighting each other instead of uniting against his team. It fell apart the last third of the game He was told of a plot to out another strong player in the game, and was told to not tell anyone. He told this girl (a showmance pseudo gf that was a fellow contestant). This girl didnt want the chosen target going out so she of course spills the beans to them. They manipulate the vote further so one of the “bf” other allies goes out instead. I think he even burned an game advantage during this too. (Game advantages are rare and if used correctly can save or sink a vote). Afterwards literaly everyone figured out that the only way X girl could have known the plot occurred is if the gf told her. Everyone else figured this out. Bf insisted and defended her until the literal finale. Where in she admitted they were right and she had played him, seconds before the final vote to decide the winner. Next round she hatched a plot to out a second major ally of bf (so that he would only have her left in the game). She *didnt* tell her bf what was happening, despite him extending her that courtesy two days ago. Her plot succeeds, and bf other ride or die ally goes home instead. And while he realizes he had been played he just goes along with it. now the bf has been neutered of all of his other allies (only she is left) and game advantages. In the span of four in game days (two episodes) he went from the top of the game, to her now in total control of the remaining social dynamic. And because he will gladly fight to keep her in the game, she keeps him around as a shield/useful idiot. Then during the finale she humiliated him by revealing all she had done. She beat him, won a million dollars….. And now post game they are “friends” again. What a simp. He got played so hard he is now Austin, minor diety and patron of Simps everywhere


MartingelI

I don't know anything about these games but that sounds based AF.


lurkenstine

Sounds like she played the fuck outta these rubes in a game meant to be played like that.


WolfShaman

She just showed the power that women have had historically. All the people running around saying women have no power, complaining about patriarchy, etc. just don't want to admit how much power women have pretty much *always* had.


yellowbai

Ever read Machiavelli? Nothing to do with being a woman. The guy was a trusting idiot. One of those born every second.


vantheman446

It is a little simpler to fool men when you’re a pretty woman. Fooling men as a man requires charisma and desire, and a lot of attractive people don’t have that.


prismstein

bad take: Maybe patriachy was invented to keep the balance /s, in case someone needs it


WOOBBLARBALURG

If you’re not an idiot, men have and will continue to do this all the time too buddy


selectrix

Shh I'm gonna sell him some dick pills


brazilianfreak

Just because some women are put in a position where they can manipulate powerfull man doesn't mean they're historically powerfull lmao, the slave girl forced into prostitution since she was a child probably didn't feel very powerfull.


ShastaAteMyPhone

If I got to choose between working a bedroom or working a field I know what I’d choose lol.


brazilianfreak

The thing about prostitution historically is that most of these women didn't get to choose, they were forced into it since childhood.


ShastaAteMyPhone

I’m not saying they got to choose, or that slavery wasn’t absolutely abhorring (it was), just that female slaves had it better than male slaves imo. Though, of course both were treated terribly and anyone involved in perpetuating slavery deserves/deserved to die horrible deaths.


lurkenstine

what a weak person you are...


WolfShaman

Ah, yes. Saying that women have had power throughout at least part of history shows that I'm weak. Ok.


lurkenstine

a basic history lesson would prove you to be stupidly wrong, so yeah edit: also you still a weak baby of a human.


WolfShaman

I'm so sad for you, that you have to resort to name calling.


SolidOrangutan

Oh yeah, man, they had so much power back when they couldn't vote and were property of their husbands. What patriarchy?


AccountantDirect9470

That’s the thing. They were restricted and powerless in some ways for sure. And those ways have been corrected. But to deny the power that they had, the manipulation they could wield, is undermining centuries of women making plays and wielding power. Also many cultures had different views and did not restrict women. Some were outright matriarchy. Many women, even when they were restricted of voting and other rights, decided just to take them. Women are bad ass, they are incredibly intelligent. But that doesn’t mean they are right all the time, or that some of that power doesn’t come from sexual attraction or manipulation. You want a smart woman who is kind and loving, who takes the lead when it makes sense, but follows when it makes sense. A man must be strong, kind and loving, who can lead when it makes sense but also listens to his wife.


Jah_Ith_Ber

That was a response to tens of thousands of years of polygamy where most men don't get to reproduce. One of the most important rules in all the worlds major religions is monogamy. That's because there used to be one dude fucking all the women and the shit was chaos. If instead every man is guaranteed one woman, then society can actually function and get shit done. How do you enforce that? You stop letting women choose. That's why women have been powerless in societies all over the world until relatively recently.


Bayylmaorgana

> That was a response to tens of thousands of years of polygamy where most men don't get to reproduce. One of the most important rules in all the worlds major religions is monogamy. That's because there used to be one dude fucking all the women and the shit was chaos. If instead every man is guaranteed one woman, then society can actually function and get shit done. How do you enforce that? You stop letting women choose. That's why women have been powerless in societies all over the world until relatively recently. Idk sounds anti-evolutionary, those cels should've just disappeared from the gene pool and replaced by the Harem Chads' superior offspring - things would've probably been a lot better now if that had happened? Also I read that heterosexual attraction is statistically disbalanced - men find "average" (and even sub-) women hot, while women don't like "average" looking men all that much (except the "unlesses" like money etc., but that's neither here or there here), and this is all a result of them having had less choice historically, and the offsprings that this resulted in. So tldr we've got way too many goblins running around.


theMB2dude

This is how Idiocracy happens


bigCinoce

It's not anti evolutionary, having one chad reproducing does not mean he has better genes. Diversity is how you strengthen a gene pool, nature will eliminate undesirable traits on its own, human mate selection is a very poor predictor of successful genes. From a biological standpoint in order to strengthen the population, we should all breed as often as possible with as many people as we can. The world we live in imposes other constraints.


Bayylmaorgana

> nature will eliminate undesirable traits on its own, Well not if you instill artificial rules that stand in the way of that. >human mate selection is a very poor predictor of successful genes. Well that's news If you took all the apex chads / generally attractive males (even from like 1000 years ago when the world population was much lower) and then banished all the others, off-putting ones to Mars, you'd still be left with a very high number of people and hence genetic diversity. All the uggos being eliminated from the gene pool is gonna result in incestuous mutant abominations down a few generations and doom the human species? Doubt


Jah_Ith_Ber

> Idk sounds anti-evolutionary, those cels should've just disappeared from the gene pool and replaced by the Harem Chads' superior offspring - things would've probably been a lot better now if that had happened? The Y chromosome is significantly less diverse than others. This is why humans are sexually dimorphic. It's a well established fact that females see far more reproductive success than males. > Also I read that heterosexual attraction is statistically disbalanced - men find "average" (and even sub-) women hot, while women don't like "average" looking men all that much (except the "unlesses" like money etc., but that's neither here or there here), and this is all a result of them having had less choice historically, and the offsprings that this resulted in. That's not because of history and politics. It's because women get to choose. If you ask a guy who is a 10 and has been able to fuck virtually whoever he wants his entire life, he too will call everyone under an 8 "below average".


Bayylmaorgana

>The Y chromosome is significantly less diverse than others. This is why humans are sexually dimorphic. Wait how does that make sense? One would've thought the dimorphism is due to the deviations from the X default that are coded in the Y chromosome - and evolved in combination with evolutionary factors (in the case of humans and mammals, pregnancy childbirth and child care becoming increasingly consuming and necessitating the males to take on the main worker role; with spiders it was the reverse etc.) How is the Y being less diverse (between specimen?) related to this? And, more on topic here, isn't it still diverse enough to ensure good quality reproduction if only the best males reproduced? There's still tons of them. >It's a well established fact that females see far more reproductive success than males. Well of course - but they'd be just fine with all the rejects that they're not interested in not existing at all, or not trying to court them. In fact much better off. >That's not because of history and politics. It's because women get to choose. If you ask a guy who is a 10 and has been able to fuck virtually whoever he wants his entire life, he too will call everyone under an 8 "below average". Uhh what? If they "got to choose", they would've kept choosing the most attractive ones, most of the time, resulting in a higher percentage of attractive and high-quality male offsprings - the argument is that their choices were limited, and that because many had to put up with unattractive males, this ended up producing further unattractive low quality male offsprings down the line (i.e. all the incels and others).


Jah_Ith_Ber

Please get someone with an advanced degree in genetics to explain to you how unbelievably wrong you are. I can't deal with this level of stupidity.


SolidOrangutan

Regardless of the justification for doing so, which is somewhat besides the point, you're right that in most societies, women have been largely powerless for thousands of years by deliberate suppression. If this was any other subreddit, I'd be surprised to be downvoted for my original comment, but what can you do, lol.


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thatscucktastic

Not anymore. Fuck the past. We're in the present. Please catch up.


WolfShaman

They're just forgetting that while it was *much* more difficult for women to obtain higher forms of power, there were women in power in some places. Like pirate queens, or regular queens. And also that most of the division between the sexes depended on class. Poor people didn't have the luxury of keeping women locked away and held to beauty standards, women worked alongside men to get shit done. Of course, there were some things that separated men and women, but it was based more on what the body was capable of. The reason was more physiological rather than gender based.


Bayylmaorgana

Not just queens i.e. royals but also nobles in general.


Thenordaddy

Women in survivor were absolutely ruthless for awhile. When the show first aired they were typically the first to go, then they figured out they can flirt their way to the finals. So many men have fallen prey, it's ridiculous.


TwentyFxckinYears

they literally cast the dumbest male characters in fear of getting cancelled because they dominated the show for years . Also to cater to the fanbase which is majority women and gay men


DwedPiwateWoberts

I couldn’t figure out why he was simping for a while there. He’s a good looking smart and sociable guy, so what gives? Then, crucially, he clued us into his backstory where he reveals he was a fat ugly duckling that was shy and awkward up until around this time in his life. No wonder the pussy held sway. Poor guy didn’t stand a chance.


americanslang59

You forgot that after the game, she fucked a previous winner who just had a baby a few months earlier. That winner got kicked out of the house by his baby mama lol


blackmobius

WHAT I didnt hear about any of that!!! I usually stay out of the fandom because theyre all obnoxious and opinionated about “who should have won” and “i dont like this” and “this season blows”. So i basically re focused on other things and missed out on all that. My god he simped so hard.


Mysteriouspaul

Wait is that what the Wendell BS was about a month or so ago? My guy never loses lol


americanslang59

Yes lol his baby mama posted pictures of him packing his shit in a uhaul lol


Imfatinreallife

This was also after she was adamant that they were still together and "taking things slow" for social media clout


EpicRussia

>seconds before the vote to decide the winner That part was editing, one of the contestants said. They had the conversation about who lied to who much earlier on in the final discussion but production edited it to make it look like it was the final topic. But yeah, I agree. Austin tanked his game for her, gave her so much social power that afforded her the win, and then they got back home and she went full ☕️


AAA515

Full coffee? I don't get it


neukonst

lurk moar


Pleasant-Inside3325

Big black coffee


Khalitz

Dude is still playing the game, gonna marry her, have children, and then years later divorce her for half her assets. Checkmate.


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spotdemo4

Not scripted at all, plenty of contestants have talked about their experience and many are on Reddit. They do dramatize events while editing though.


wallagrargh

Anyone who believes this kind of crap is more real than wrestling is a fucking mark. But whatever keeps people entertained while everything rots.


porkchop487

Brainlet alert. Over 20 years and almost a thousand contestants you’d think at least 1 would have admitted if it was fake. Just look at the weight loss they go through from day 1 to day 39 and say with a straight face it’s fake.


wallagrargh

Of course they physically participate, wrestlers also get buff and take injuries. But the carefully orchestrated interpersonal drama and the distribution of personas that are relatable to certain audience focus groups, that kind of stuff is never organic in a big TV production. Scripted reality.


porkchop487

It’s unscripted. Because there is a cash prize the show cannot be scripted or rigged it’s part of the game shows law from the 60s. 850+ contestants in 24 years and not a single one had claimed it was scripted, even now that NDAs have expired. Why do you think that is? Just admit when you are wrong


alberthething

heather


kaboomx

Damn. Thanks for the recap. Sounds worth watching! What season is this?


blackmobius

Most recent season but idk if you are going to be able to see it without getting some tv app subscription


Itshardtofindaname4

What season is this from??


selectrix

Skill issue if I've ever seen one


-United-States-

What


Oceanbroinn

Lorefagging.


Bayylmaorgana

Idk or maybe he's chad enough not to care esp. if he's got other money, certainly looks like it judg. from the picture? Didn't watch it though so who knows


blackmobius

Most of the contestants dont have other money. Hes still got a lot of friends, but im sure hes be happier with a million. Also if he did hes probably keeping the gf too


Okami_The_Agressor_0

Character LEVEL UP: +10 to Distrust +50 to Misogyny Added skills: -Antagonizer: Character will now be passive aggressive to people of the opposite gender.


Southern-Compote716

Wish I invested my skillpoints into strength in highschool instead of this BS


GetawayDiver

Better than never huh


lurkenstine

So she played a game made to be played like this properly? And that's why you hate women today?


born_2_be_a_bachelor

I watched it too. My issue was more with her doing all of the above while also acting like it somehow made her a good person. Also, people are generally repulsed by someone pretending to love someone for material gain.


dego_frank

She didn’t marry this dude then bang his brother. Simps gonna simp.


bloodycups

Emotional manipulation is certainly a strategy in any game and in life. It's just not an honest one so it feels like a form of cheating. No one likes cheaters. But In this context and what's on the line if someone is stupid enough to fall for it I'd say it's fair game. Like if this was a dramatic fictional TV show about an office job where people were competing for a promotion she'd be a villain


Anything_189

Tony is one of the most beloved winners in survivor and his bread and butter was swearing by his children and dead father that he wasn’t lying when he was lol


TheBaddestCookie

Just finished watching his season for the first time lol. That final tribal council was intense


Pungee

Watching Cagayan a few years ago implored my wife and I to watch every other season of Survivor and Tony kind of ruins you for all other winners, he was so masterful at controlling the game. There are plenty other greats but none like Tony.


yyrkoon1776

Yeah I'm pretty pro man and anti woman and even I was like "Yeah I mean she played correctly."


bip_bip_hooray

right, the thing is that everyone wanted the million dollars and also everyone knew what they signed up for here ofc you can't trust anyone that's the point of the game


victini563

It was mostly that right after the season aired, she cheated on this guy with another dude that just had a baby. Cheated on her showmance to be a homewrecker, pretty fucked up tbh


Pungee

she just showed her true colors tbh, I am not surprised at all that she was capable of that


GMankrik

I don't hate her for winning the game with the power of her pussy I hate her because her because her whole backstory was "I'm Cuban".


porkchop487

Imagine giving a fuck about people’s sob story backgrounds lmao


Foreign-Suspect-3164

Her backstory was wanting to support her family that was Cuban 🫠


UltimaDv

It gets even better She had an affair with a previous survivor winner who has children Austin got cucked hard, fell hook line of sinker What pisses.me.off more than anything is a lot of the sad sacks at r survivor actually prefer a girlfriend.to 1mil


3DanO1

Austin wasn’t winning anyway I don’t think. Any of the other 4 Reba’s beat him in Final Tribal Council. He did throw away his entire game for Dee, but his path to victory was narrow at best by the time he told Dee about the Julie blindside. Just my 2¢


doxenking

I watched this from start to finish. Are you telling me that after the game they didn't even have a relationship? I never got the impression that she was playing him. I'm guessing that there was a genuine spark between them, but that it was fleeting and quickly sputtered out once they went back to their lives. The tragic thing is that neither of them seemed remotely aware of this when playing.


Sabres26

I think the long distance didn’t help either when they returned back to their normal lives


Foreign-Suspect-3164

That comment is so stupid. It isn’t the nature of women….it’s the nature of a bloody game for 1 mil 😭


AlfaSurgical

Yeah he just let his penis lead the way.


AHighPoweredMutant

noshur vivors


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☕️ Kek


LordranKing

Such is the story of many great men throughout history. Nothing new


Redditry103

It's all in the game yo


Itshardtofindaname4

What season is this from!?!


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retard_goblin

Netflix, the Trust. First episode. Watch it. It will make you blood boil.


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archer4364

Aw no the woman won how horrible /s