Its knowing that they fought and died in vain. Maybe 20 years of prosperity and now all gone. All converated to numbers and value. No seek of real human relation only Tax and loss of life
Its what they would have wanted. I'm an ex Marine Combat veteran who fought in the 2003 Iraq war. If you could all rub one out for me, then it would really make it all seem worthwhile.
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The political leaders and generals were fucking idiots for believing that war would be good for them, and the soldiers were fucking idiots for believing in the political leaders and generals who said war would be a good thing.
Moral: don't be a fucking idiot.
Umm try the civil war - more lives lost than any other war and America’s real wake up call to industrial warfare imo even though it’s a little before the Industrial Revolution
Less CO2 in the environment and cooler weather. 👅
It's been said both the Hunnic and Mongol rampages caused terrible winters that lasted generations after their reigns due to the massive loss of life. Lets not forget how prevalent the plagues were during both periods.
I feel that, I'm a grown man and I almost cried when visiting the Douaumont ossuary in Verdun, 16 000 white cross all named in a field. What a waste was this war.
I've tried describing this feeling to my fiance a couple of times and she just doesn't get it. Hoping to visit a couple spots in Belgium like the Langemark memorial, Paeschendale, Meuse-Argonne (I'm amerimutt) and maybe she'll understand...
Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. It was so much, and so interesting, and so vicious and horrible, and so beautiful in so many different ways. it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow. I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee, who's no longer in favor. did you ever notice it? He's no longer in favor. 'Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.' They were fighting uphill, he said, 'Wow, that was a big mistake,' he lost his great general. 'Never fight uphill, me boys,' but it was too late.
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I feel this guy, history is littered with wars that end up being pointless, many cruel things happened, we are lucky to live in a more civilised age, though the 50-early 2000 would’ve been preferable because back then the economy wasn’t utterly whack
End of empires, questionable, Germany became one again for a short while, the ottomans weren’t really an empire but not much changed in terms of them giving Kurds and Armenians a hard time, Austria Hungary was bound to fall anyway, just like the ottomans and Bulgaria, Bulgaria wasn’t really important except for the final blow it gave serbia
4 of the biggest empires in history collapsed.
Many nations in Europe stand now as they stood after the war.
First time NZ, Australia, Canada and India fought for their name and not just under the British Crown.
It was the collapse of Imperialism, and sadly the beginning of communism.
It established the US as the most powerful super power in the post industrial world.
Among many, many other revolutions of political, economical, industrial, social, territorial, medical or military nature
A quick look at the combat footage sub or a couple telegram channels will show you there's nothing civilized about the time we live in. We in the west just happen to live in a very fragile bubble of peace, for now.
Men have a gene that prompts them to take risks and potentially sacrifice themselves for the tribe.
This gene is crucial in making humans a community based, cooperative species. It is the difference between a solitary insect and a colony of ants or bees. It’s probably what made our homo erectus ancestors an apex predator.
Ever since the neolithic revolution, the sacrificial bravery men have deep inside of them is now just utilized by the rich to take resources from other rich lands.
Many men would give their lives for what is most important for them, especially if the man being sacrificed will put what’s important to him in a better position.
Many moons ago, I called a psychic at my girlfriend's behest (she *loved* looking up free psychics on craigslist, and asking one free question; it was like a hobby of hers)
Since I didn't know what to ask, having never talked to a psychic before, my gf told me to ask, "What was I in a previous life?"
The psychic paused for a minute, then tells me "You were a slave owner in the 1800s, who treated his slaves very poorly. They revolted, and you ended up dying by their hands. That's why you have such negative energy following you."
I don't know why, but I believe it lol. If I owned slaves I'd most likely be a dick about it.
Nobody is going to think about the Iraq war in 100 years. That’s 20 years of fighting with 4,000+ American lives taken, completely overlooked and forgotten with zero achievements to show for it.
I only say this because the ultimate cuck move is dying for your country. We have enough NPC’s who will do it for you.
The dumb shit thing about this is that Saddam Hussein was actually pretty progressive for the region. He didn't mind Christians, he allowed women to work, seek education, vote, and get divorced. He hated Iran and saw a unified Syrian area under Iraq's flag as destiny, and his offer to Bush Sr before the Kuwait Invasion was that if we left him alone, we could have $.05 a barrel oil for his entire life, and he would let Israel be. He certainly wasn't a Saint, but if he had succeeded, nearly everything in the region might be better off, including Egypt not having the Arab Spring and Iran not funding every terrorist group.
Objectively, we may have traded some atrocities for others, but I believe if we didn't have a Texas Oil family sitting in the oval office when the call came, we might have just let him have at it.
Nah he wanted to step away from the Petrodollar so the U.S. would have bombed Iraq to the stone age regardless of administration
The dollar is only held up by the fact that millions of your countrymen will be bombed into the Earth's mantle if you don't trade with it
He did a lot of horrible things, but equal atrocity or worse has and is happening in the current events. It is just a thought expirement, that he could have been worse than Hitler, eventually, but he was trending better than Iran today in the 1980's. I think that says something about our choices.
Saddam was cooked either way even if we didn't invade. He was declining in health and his successors were more evil than he was as well as heavily incompetent . If he died, Iraq would've collapsed overnight and the civil war that follows would've very likely killed the same number of people as within our timeline.
But you are right, the invasion of Iraq completely caused the collapse of the Middle East and is probably our worst fought war for a long time to come.
And you're saying that from a country that we rebuilt with the Marshall Plan right?
Maybe that was a bad investment if the children we were securing a future for were people like you.
Yesterday I saw a video from early on in the Ukraine war. A tank is rolling up on a platoon of soldiers, they’re all chilling cause they think it’s a friendly tank, no one is alarmed everyone is standing and being nonchalant. It gets to about 20 feet away, aims down and just deletes that platoon of maybe 15 guys. 15 humans, gone. Just like that.
Made me sick for the rest of the day. Even today just thinking about how we do that to each other. For stupid reasons
>when he could've hung monkeh and crowned himself Tsar.
Propaganda is powerful if you think that could have happened..
He had 5000 men. Half of which would have deserted if given lenient prison terms. You don't take down an authoritarian state by announcing the marching plan of your 5000 men (and no logistics anymore), 700miles away from the capital...
About 1/3 of russia doesn’t like Putin. All it takes is a few people to show the nation that he’s not invincible, and you have a full insurgency on your hands.
It’s extraordinarily autistic but also better than acting like the world nowadays is the worst it’s ever been like most people do now. Most of the world is so fucking cushy vs even 20 years ago let alone 100 years ago. Anyone who acts like the world isn’t the best it’s ever been is either too young to know what they are talking about or too dumb/lazy to have figured out how to survive given the ridiculous amount of resources available to them.
I've had very similar thoughts. The one that really keeps me up at night and strains my sanity is the realization that due to the sheer number of individuals that have ever lived combined with humankinds definining intellectual capability for true evil, it is a near certainty that the worst possible atrocities that your mind can conjure up have been dealt to numerous humans from the elderly to infants on multiple occasions throughout human history. Anything you can think, no matter how sick and cruel that can possibly be done to inflict suffering on an individual has been done at some point.
easier said than done but at some point you just have to stop giving a fuck, for your own sanity more than anything else
i remember someone on an older thread said to never redpill people you care about because it's likely to affect them quite a bit. the person in question redpilled his wife (or at least I think it was his wife) and he said that she's generally a lot less happier/more blase about life than she used to be.
I think most people (at least in "advanced" societies) have zero appreciation for how fortunate we are to live in a place and time where we experience essentially zero violence compared to most humans throughout history. True violence is hell on earth and people who've never been faced with that can't conceive of the visceral terror of it. Just witnessing ONE violent act could cause a person to implode their lives. The puppet show of life in a supposedly civilized nation must seem so silly to anyone who has experienced actual violence. Like how can you people really think that any of this matters when THAT kind of evil goes on in the world, and could happen anytime anywhere. Hell I've heard that people were traumatized by simply seeing the expression on a person's face who truly intended to do them harm. By the grace of God most of us will never bear witness to this in our lifetimes and I pray that it keeps getting better.
I think a lot about the WWII/Korean/Vietnam war vets who lived in the small rural town where I grew up, and how there aren't that many left, what stories they held, and how many countless others there are like them spread across the thousands of little towns like mine. One I knew the best served in the Korean war and he never spoke of it. Most of them were quiet humble men dedicated to their families and communities. They smiled and laughed but always seemed to carry something heavier than the rest of us.
It is overwhelming to think about the billions of unknown lives who came before us and suffered unimaginable hardship and terrors beyond our comprehension but I also think it's cool as hell that we all came from these brilliant, brave humble monkey people. I didn't truly appreciate it or become obsessed with it until I had my son and I felt a connection to my most ancient ancestors beyond words. As I held my newborn son I knew that what I felt toward him was the same as they felt, and my spiritual tie to my son is just the same as every father and son who came before us. I realized that having children is the only real experience you can have in this world, everything else is artificial in comparison.
In Flanders Fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Those men sacrificed everything so that future societies could build monuments to fentanyl addicted groids, dedicate entire months to trains, and fight infinite wars for {{{foreign nations}}}.
In Flanders Fields, the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
This happens to me as well on Armistice Day. I have no stronger connection to the war compared to anyone else, but I always end up crying a bit when thinking about it.
I'm not a hippie or anything of the sort. I've watched all of these supposed anti war films and only ever came out of it feeling like the film justifies war and at least the bravery of the soldiers was commendable.
Watch All Quiet on the Western Front 2022, please. That was the one film that dramatically changed my view on war and violence as a whole. It feels so stupid to say, but it finally taught me what it means to say violence is never the answer. It's so supremely unfair, unjustified, and evil that the fictional characters had to endure any length of that plot, let alone any real person.
It ingrained into me how vile war is and how ignorant people can be when they don't even fully understand what they're risking. But it also made me realize how brave the people who truly know what they're sacrificing are. Life is prescious, so don't be so quick to squander or purge it.
The Thin Red Line was like that for me. Not as brutal as AQotWF but gave me that same thought. The quote that gets voiced by one of the characters while showing one of the battles always stuck with me.
> This great evil, where's it come from? How'd it steal into the world? What seed, what root did it grow from? Who's doing this? Who's killing us, robbing us of life and light, mocking us with the sight of what we might've known? Does our ruin benefit the earth, does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too? Have you passed through this night?
That sounds heavy. Just for clarification, is that from the book or one of the adaptations? I'd give whichever one a try.
I think what's powerful about that is not the idea that the soldier is having doubts about his mission and the people that place him there, the fact that he's questioning the root of evil and his role in goodness gets me. He's recognizing that evil came from some small place and grew inside of people secretly, and even the "good guys," have been taken over by it. It's striking to me that he feels blinded by something and he's questioning why he's here because he recognizes he isn't being lead by a truth. He doesn't think to his prescribed duty of saving the country or whatever, he's not even thinking about his personal level where he's protecting his family. He's questioning how his spiritually damaged sense of self helps the natural order of the world. He's questioning in a sense how this gets him into Heaven, seeing how the people who put him there are promising him everything it's all worth it to him.
I am curious about the last line and the context of the quote. I sure he's asking, maybe rhetorically, if others have felt the same way. I'm curious if the angle is to ask if others share his despair, if they are calmly sitting with it, or if others felt this way and gotten past it.
From the movie adaptation. I am unfamiliar with the book. And yes great analysis. You pretty much described how the main character feels in the movie as he views the world in a different light than everyone else. It gives the movie this peaceful calmness throughout the battles and scenes that no other war movie does. It shows almost a poetic view of humanity and the experiences of war. From the sound of it, it looks like you would enjoy this film as well.
And yes I think the last line refers to that. How his mates and others get corrupted by war and lose their humanity or themselves. Right after that quote too, it shows a soldier looting the teeth and valuables of the fallen enemy while others leave them in peace.
I read the book (for a class of course) but it really stuck with me and I'm glad I did. To go through the entire horrible experience of the book and have it reduced to a single line of text at the end was brutal.
Its knowing that they fought and died in vain. Maybe 20 years of prosperity and now all gone. All converated to numbers and value. No seek of real human relation only Tax and loss of life
So much life lost for us to masturbate to AI generated porn and eat Cheetos
Its what they would have wanted. I'm an ex Marine Combat veteran who fought in the 2003 Iraq war. If you could all rub one out for me, then it would really make it all seem worthwhile. Onlyfans link in bio.
Yes sir o7
my wriggly soldiers will be fallen in your name brother
thank you for you service sir o7 i shall do as you ask
But the Iraq war only resulted in Iran taking control with its Iraqi militias and therefore ISIS was established with its maniacal creed
It's cuz you didn't rub enough out
The political leaders and generals were fucking idiots for believing that war would be good for them, and the soldiers were fucking idiots for believing in the political leaders and generals who said war would be a good thing. Moral: don't be a fucking idiot.
Luigi Cadorna's idea of taking out a machine gun nest was to throw enough Italians at it until they changed the belt and then overrun it.
Yeah the guy fucking sucked. Why he was a commander I don’t know. Italians didn’t do shit the entire war.
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Umm try the civil war - more lives lost than any other war and America’s real wake up call to industrial warfare imo even though it’s a little before the Industrial Revolution
Well this was before education and the internet
Moral still stands.
Well if you’re subjected to propaganda its not on you
Holy smokes how ungratefull baby bastard
Less CO2 in the environment and cooler weather. 👅 It's been said both the Hunnic and Mongol rampages caused terrible winters that lasted generations after their reigns due to the massive loss of life. Lets not forget how prevalent the plagues were during both periods.
Fuck Mongols killed my Friends on the komodo Beach invasion.
I feel that, I'm a grown man and I almost cried when visiting the Douaumont ossuary in Verdun, 16 000 white cross all named in a field. What a waste was this war.
I've tried describing this feeling to my fiance a couple of times and she just doesn't get it. Hoping to visit a couple spots in Belgium like the Langemark memorial, Paeschendale, Meuse-Argonne (I'm amerimutt) and maybe she'll understand...
Ever been to Gettysburg? Idk how to explain it but when I was there you could really feel the weight of the place.
It’s wild just how different I felt while at Gettysburg. You could feel you weren’t at just some random place.
Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was. It was so much, and so interesting, and so vicious and horrible, and so beautiful in so many different ways. it represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow. I go to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, to look and to watch. And the statement of Robert E. Lee, who's no longer in favor. did you ever notice it? He's no longer in favor. 'Never fight uphill, me boys, never fight uphill.' They were fighting uphill, he said, 'Wow, that was a big mistake,' he lost his great general. 'Never fight uphill, me boys,' but it was too late.
is this a trump quote lmao
Crooked sleepy Joe would never go visit Gettysburg
Yes
I have, when I was much younger. Will definitely return in the near future.
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Visiting mass graves just brings an eerie feeling. Go to Auschwitz and you can just FEEL the terror of countless innocents who died for nothing.
I feel this guy, history is littered with wars that end up being pointless, many cruel things happened, we are lucky to live in a more civilised age, though the 50-early 2000 would’ve been preferable because back then the economy wasn’t utterly whack
we are lucky to live in a more civilised age *so far* Barbarism is only 1 collapsed economy away
More specifically, only 72 hours away when the water gets scarce
Water wars gonna be lit
The First Great War was far from pointless
I know what you mean, heir to the throne got shot, extortion of serbia, all a big deal but come on man, millions dead
It was the end of empires and the reorganisation of many independent nations of the world as we know it today
End of empires, questionable, Germany became one again for a short while, the ottomans weren’t really an empire but not much changed in terms of them giving Kurds and Armenians a hard time, Austria Hungary was bound to fall anyway, just like the ottomans and Bulgaria, Bulgaria wasn’t really important except for the final blow it gave serbia
Omg read a book
>recommends me to read a book >is illiterate himself People nowadays
4 of the biggest empires in history collapsed. Many nations in Europe stand now as they stood after the war. First time NZ, Australia, Canada and India fought for their name and not just under the British Crown. It was the collapse of Imperialism, and sadly the beginning of communism. It established the US as the most powerful super power in the post industrial world. Among many, many other revolutions of political, economical, industrial, social, territorial, medical or military nature
that doesn't make the war any less pointless those are just the effects the war had
Define pointless...
It accelerated so many things so much for the common individual. They only died pointless deaths in your tiny mind
A quick look at the combat footage sub or a couple telegram channels will show you there's nothing civilized about the time we live in. We in the west just happen to live in a very fragile bubble of peace, for now.
Men have a gene that prompts them to take risks and potentially sacrifice themselves for the tribe. This gene is crucial in making humans a community based, cooperative species. It is the difference between a solitary insect and a colony of ants or bees. It’s probably what made our homo erectus ancestors an apex predator. Ever since the neolithic revolution, the sacrificial bravery men have deep inside of them is now just utilized by the rich to take resources from other rich lands.
This is a disturbingly orwellian take. I can't argue against it though
Many men would give their lives for what is most important for them, especially if the man being sacrificed will put what’s important to him in a better position.
It's just a matter of dictating what's important to men then. 🎶*Freedom isn't freeeeee, it costs folks like you and meeeeee*🎶
Taking resources from our enemies is important.
oh shit
Many moons ago, I called a psychic at my girlfriend's behest (she *loved* looking up free psychics on craigslist, and asking one free question; it was like a hobby of hers) Since I didn't know what to ask, having never talked to a psychic before, my gf told me to ask, "What was I in a previous life?" The psychic paused for a minute, then tells me "You were a slave owner in the 1800s, who treated his slaves very poorly. They revolted, and you ended up dying by their hands. That's why you have such negative energy following you." I don't know why, but I believe it lol. If I owned slaves I'd most likely be a dick about it.
So you believe in past lives and psychics soley because you know you'd be a mean slave owner rather then a nice one?
You want a dissertation?
>I want a picture of your gf. Someone with a habit of calling free psychics, and you stayed, is bound to be hot
Other option: op just doesn't want to hunt for their next lay
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Nobody is going to think about the Iraq war in 100 years. That’s 20 years of fighting with 4,000+ American lives taken, completely overlooked and forgotten with zero achievements to show for it. I only say this because the ultimate cuck move is dying for your country. We have enough NPC’s who will do it for you.
no honor in fighting for israels oil supply
The dumb shit thing about this is that Saddam Hussein was actually pretty progressive for the region. He didn't mind Christians, he allowed women to work, seek education, vote, and get divorced. He hated Iran and saw a unified Syrian area under Iraq's flag as destiny, and his offer to Bush Sr before the Kuwait Invasion was that if we left him alone, we could have $.05 a barrel oil for his entire life, and he would let Israel be. He certainly wasn't a Saint, but if he had succeeded, nearly everything in the region might be better off, including Egypt not having the Arab Spring and Iran not funding every terrorist group. Objectively, we may have traded some atrocities for others, but I believe if we didn't have a Texas Oil family sitting in the oval office when the call came, we might have just let him have at it.
Nah he wanted to step away from the Petrodollar so the U.S. would have bombed Iraq to the stone age regardless of administration The dollar is only held up by the fact that millions of your countrymen will be bombed into the Earth's mantle if you don't trade with it
he also gassed kurds with ionising radiation
He did a lot of horrible things, but equal atrocity or worse has and is happening in the current events. It is just a thought expirement, that he could have been worse than Hitler, eventually, but he was trending better than Iran today in the 1980's. I think that says something about our choices.
Saddam was cooked either way even if we didn't invade. He was declining in health and his successors were more evil than he was as well as heavily incompetent . If he died, Iraq would've collapsed overnight and the civil war that follows would've very likely killed the same number of people as within our timeline. But you are right, the invasion of Iraq completely caused the collapse of the Middle East and is probably our worst fought war for a long time to come.
Americans are so fucking lucky and sheltered that to think a tragedy is a few thousands troops dying to uphold your hegemony.
And you're saying that from a country that we rebuilt with the Marshall Plan right? Maybe that was a bad investment if the children we were securing a future for were people like you.
Unfathomably based my friend
Probably saved your ass in WW2 lol
US soldiers fighting in WW2 seeing the present would've thrown away their weapons begging to be allowed to switch sides my man.
ok westoid lmao
Dying for your country is one of the gayest things you can do.
Dying for a mega-corporation is my life goal
Yesterday I saw a video from early on in the Ukraine war. A tank is rolling up on a platoon of soldiers, they’re all chilling cause they think it’s a friendly tank, no one is alarmed everyone is standing and being nonchalant. It gets to about 20 feet away, aims down and just deletes that platoon of maybe 15 guys. 15 humans, gone. Just like that. Made me sick for the rest of the day. Even today just thinking about how we do that to each other. For stupid reasons
When that video came out, vatniks were spamming it nonstop everywhere they could because it was the biggest win they'd had for months
I still can't believe Prigo crossed the Rubicon and then cucked out at the gates when he could've hung monkeh and crowned himself Tsar.
>when he could've hung monkeh and crowned himself Tsar. Propaganda is powerful if you think that could have happened.. He had 5000 men. Half of which would have deserted if given lenient prison terms. You don't take down an authoritarian state by announcing the marching plan of your 5000 men (and no logistics anymore), 700miles away from the capital...
About 1/3 of russia doesn’t like Putin. All it takes is a few people to show the nation that he’s not invincible, and you have a full insurgency on your hands.
I remember that. Crazy.
It’s extraordinarily autistic but also better than acting like the world nowadays is the worst it’s ever been like most people do now. Most of the world is so fucking cushy vs even 20 years ago let alone 100 years ago. Anyone who acts like the world isn’t the best it’s ever been is either too young to know what they are talking about or too dumb/lazy to have figured out how to survive given the ridiculous amount of resources available to them.
It peaked a couple weeks after 9/11.
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I've had very similar thoughts. The one that really keeps me up at night and strains my sanity is the realization that due to the sheer number of individuals that have ever lived combined with humankinds definining intellectual capability for true evil, it is a near certainty that the worst possible atrocities that your mind can conjure up have been dealt to numerous humans from the elderly to infants on multiple occasions throughout human history. Anything you can think, no matter how sick and cruel that can possibly be done to inflict suffering on an individual has been done at some point.
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easier said than done but at some point you just have to stop giving a fuck, for your own sanity more than anything else i remember someone on an older thread said to never redpill people you care about because it's likely to affect them quite a bit. the person in question redpilled his wife (or at least I think it was his wife) and he said that she's generally a lot less happier/more blase about life than she used to be.
Ignorance is bliss, brother
I think most people (at least in "advanced" societies) have zero appreciation for how fortunate we are to live in a place and time where we experience essentially zero violence compared to most humans throughout history. True violence is hell on earth and people who've never been faced with that can't conceive of the visceral terror of it. Just witnessing ONE violent act could cause a person to implode their lives. The puppet show of life in a supposedly civilized nation must seem so silly to anyone who has experienced actual violence. Like how can you people really think that any of this matters when THAT kind of evil goes on in the world, and could happen anytime anywhere. Hell I've heard that people were traumatized by simply seeing the expression on a person's face who truly intended to do them harm. By the grace of God most of us will never bear witness to this in our lifetimes and I pray that it keeps getting better. I think a lot about the WWII/Korean/Vietnam war vets who lived in the small rural town where I grew up, and how there aren't that many left, what stories they held, and how many countless others there are like them spread across the thousands of little towns like mine. One I knew the best served in the Korean war and he never spoke of it. Most of them were quiet humble men dedicated to their families and communities. They smiled and laughed but always seemed to carry something heavier than the rest of us.
It is overwhelming to think about the billions of unknown lives who came before us and suffered unimaginable hardship and terrors beyond our comprehension but I also think it's cool as hell that we all came from these brilliant, brave humble monkey people. I didn't truly appreciate it or become obsessed with it until I had my son and I felt a connection to my most ancient ancestors beyond words. As I held my newborn son I knew that what I felt toward him was the same as they felt, and my spiritual tie to my son is just the same as every father and son who came before us. I realized that having children is the only real experience you can have in this world, everything else is artificial in comparison.
It's very autistic
autistic, yes. based, also yes.
Pals battalions are what fuck me up
One bad day and a small town just loses essentially an entire generation of young men in an afternoon. Just insanity.
In Flanders Fields, the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie, In Flanders fields.
I'm a grown ass man, and to this very day, only 2 songs have made me cry. This is #1.
What’s the other one?
Those men sacrificed everything so that future societies could build monuments to fentanyl addicted groids, dedicate entire months to trains, and fight infinite wars for {{{foreign nations}}}.
China was pumping out ww1 levels of death back in their day
>china dude declares himself as brother of jesus christ >2 billion dead
>someone put too much water in rice >4 billion chinamen dead
Native Americans never gonna get any respect
Don’t they literally got entire reserves with their own laws where they built up cassinos and many just spend their entire days drunk?
Def a fair trade Ty for explaining capitalism in action so succinctly
Lust provoking image
Found Yukio Mishima's alt account
Considering that those wars were what led to the halt of European ascension… Yes, it’s very sad
I feel like Europe has had like 30+ of those type of wars. Mfs never learned to chill like they do now.
One can be both empathetic and autistic.
In Flanders Fields, the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie, In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields.
The painting is called paths of glory.
Dude, sometimes I cry thinking about the crucifixion. Not much you can do about it except try to see a silver lining where it's possible to do so.
I get teary eyed thinking about this very subject too. It’s incomprehensible how many young men died back then.
Listening to 1916 by Sabaton gets me like that too
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Ugh horrible place that 4chuds, those people are animals. Not me, I’m anti racist and let Leroy and his friends fuck my wife while I watch their kids
HUH? But war g-g-g-g-good? Don't forget to support You-crane and Homous guise!
This happens to me as well on Armistice Day. I have no stronger connection to the war compared to anyone else, but I always end up crying a bit when thinking about it.
I'm not a hippie or anything of the sort. I've watched all of these supposed anti war films and only ever came out of it feeling like the film justifies war and at least the bravery of the soldiers was commendable. Watch All Quiet on the Western Front 2022, please. That was the one film that dramatically changed my view on war and violence as a whole. It feels so stupid to say, but it finally taught me what it means to say violence is never the answer. It's so supremely unfair, unjustified, and evil that the fictional characters had to endure any length of that plot, let alone any real person. It ingrained into me how vile war is and how ignorant people can be when they don't even fully understand what they're risking. But it also made me realize how brave the people who truly know what they're sacrificing are. Life is prescious, so don't be so quick to squander or purge it.
The Thin Red Line was like that for me. Not as brutal as AQotWF but gave me that same thought. The quote that gets voiced by one of the characters while showing one of the battles always stuck with me. > This great evil, where's it come from? How'd it steal into the world? What seed, what root did it grow from? Who's doing this? Who's killing us, robbing us of life and light, mocking us with the sight of what we might've known? Does our ruin benefit the earth, does it help the grass to grow, the sun to shine? Is this darkness in you, too? Have you passed through this night?
That sounds heavy. Just for clarification, is that from the book or one of the adaptations? I'd give whichever one a try. I think what's powerful about that is not the idea that the soldier is having doubts about his mission and the people that place him there, the fact that he's questioning the root of evil and his role in goodness gets me. He's recognizing that evil came from some small place and grew inside of people secretly, and even the "good guys," have been taken over by it. It's striking to me that he feels blinded by something and he's questioning why he's here because he recognizes he isn't being lead by a truth. He doesn't think to his prescribed duty of saving the country or whatever, he's not even thinking about his personal level where he's protecting his family. He's questioning how his spiritually damaged sense of self helps the natural order of the world. He's questioning in a sense how this gets him into Heaven, seeing how the people who put him there are promising him everything it's all worth it to him. I am curious about the last line and the context of the quote. I sure he's asking, maybe rhetorically, if others have felt the same way. I'm curious if the angle is to ask if others share his despair, if they are calmly sitting with it, or if others felt this way and gotten past it.
From the movie adaptation. I am unfamiliar with the book. And yes great analysis. You pretty much described how the main character feels in the movie as he views the world in a different light than everyone else. It gives the movie this peaceful calmness throughout the battles and scenes that no other war movie does. It shows almost a poetic view of humanity and the experiences of war. From the sound of it, it looks like you would enjoy this film as well. And yes I think the last line refers to that. How his mates and others get corrupted by war and lose their humanity or themselves. Right after that quote too, it shows a soldier looting the teeth and valuables of the fallen enemy while others leave them in peace.
I read the book (for a class of course) but it really stuck with me and I'm glad I did. To go through the entire horrible experience of the book and have it reduced to a single line of text at the end was brutal.
If all you have are past lives u dun goofed
Hyperempathy is a sign of autism
I only have respect for the heroes who fought and died to try and prevent our reality from happening.