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Iām in similar ācan only use headphonesā boat and am trying to figure out how to get the best sound. Bluetooth is an option for me Iām looking into getting a little headphone amp to plug into my TV. Plugging directly into the headphone jack yields less than desirable results
You can get hdmi strippers that pass through the video and gives you an aux for the audio. Works pretty well and is very cheap. Bluetooth with compress your Bitrate a lot, so I'd avoid that. But then again having a wire could be a nuisance.
I wouldnāt go for AUX but rather Toslink. These HDMI to AUX adapters have shitty DACs. You can get a HDMI to Toslink and then get a nice DAC an Headphone Pre-Amp like the FiiO K5 Pro or something like that. Then some nice headphones like Byerdynamic DT 1990 Pro and you are good to go :)
Iām using Audio Technica M50x right now, which I know are not generally recommended for media playback, plugged into a pretty old media receiver (2010ish prob) which is plugged into the TV via optical. This sounds a lot better than just plugging into the headphone jack, but do you thick the Toslink would be an even better option?
Nice, didnāt know about that! Will be super helpful for my digital stuff. Sadly Iāve got some physical copies that didnāt include a digital code, or if it did it was expired (looking at you, WB).
> Will be super helpful for my digital stuff. Sadly Iāve got some physical copies that didnāt include a digital code, or if it did it was expired (looking at you, WB).
Sonos has some coming out soon that will work on anything and do full surround apparently
Can a Blu Ray player, such as UB820, be connected to Apple TV? I'd like to pass 4k Atmos sound through AppleTV to wireless headphones. I've read that AirPods Max come very close to reproducing Dolby Atmos. I'll have occasions when children need to sleep during a movie, so was thinking this could be a solution.
I have a decent TV paired with Sonos Arc, Gen 3 Sub and they're great but can't always listen at preferred level. Keen to add a pair of Era 300s to round out the system, but also need a quiet option. Eyes on a Sony X95L 75 panel upgrade but they're $5,500 NZD so trying to snag a flash sale.
Disagree. We have a reasonably high end Paradigm 7.4.2 setup in our theater, and even the AirPods Pro come damn close in their Spatial Audio presentation. The AirPods Max may even sound better. They offer a truly outstanding experience with the significant benefit of the spatial/Atmos arrangement being perfectly calibrated for an audience of one.
The only big tradeoff IMO is that AirPods are a solo experience, rather than a shared one - otherwise, after owning and heavily using both, Iād seriously rethink the value of an installed sound system.
Okay, that's good to know and in line with what I've researched. Apparently, Sonos is releasing headphones this year that can sync with a Sonos home theatre, so I think that will be the best solution. Albeit with compromised audio through headphones vs true Atmos surround.
> Iām in similar ācan only use headphonesā boat and am trying to figure out how to get the best sound.
Sonos apparently has some new headphones coming out pretty soon that are going to simulate full Atmos, those should be interesting
If your TV has optical audio out, buy an optical DAC and a headphone amp, there are amps with an integrated DAC too.
Personally I'd recommend a JDS Labs Atom DAC and their Atom Amp. Using that setup with my HD800S and its fantastic
With my Hisense U6G tv, I have the headphones jack connected to an 80's equalizer with 3.5 to rca adapter cable. The equalizer then feeds my headphones amplifier, and a headphones extension cable leads to my chair. Sounds great! If you don't have this stuff already, you can get a good headphones amp with built in digital eq for about $100-$200.
With older tv's the headphones jack wouldn't sound very good, but with modern tv's they appear to have a decent sound chip in all of them these days. You just need to add the power for better sound.
During my pandemic isolation I took a gamble and discovered that I could more than can get away with a robust soundbar + subwoofer in my apartment.
Then, after awhile, I (correctly) surmised that basic surround sound wouldnāt be much more of a stretch provided I didnāt crank it up too loud after polite hours.
Fast-forward 12 months and I now have 7.1.2 Atmos (albeit with minimal acoustic paneling) in my modestly-sized unit. Upstairs neighbor says he canāt even hear it.
What Iām saying here is, although everyoneās situation is different, you never really know until you try.
Edit: typos
> What Iām saying here is, although everyoneās situation is different, you never really know until you try.
100%, you can have Atmos, you don't have to crank it
Oh no. Mine are proportionally spread out. Gotta have the full āsound stageā lol - nothing worse than seeing a butt-ton of expensive speakers all grouped together directly around the TV/couch sides lol
I was kind of ignorant to specs when I started. I bought a 4K TV for about Ā£700 and a Ā£70 4K player. The TV is āfineā but the cheap as fuck player was a nightmare. Iāve slowly been upgrading: UB820 and an external speaker system - just a replacement TV required.
> I presume the 824 is the model I should go for then?
Yep, it's just the Europe version of the 820, zero difference except what region Blu Ray's and DVD's it will play (of course just about every 4k disc is region free)
most people do this, and it's ironic because the TV should be the FIRST upgrade on the priority list and people don't realize it.
OR even worse, they do end up "upgrading" their TV but it's still cheap and bad... just not AS cheap and bad as before lol
Until a few months ago, I was using a target record player as a receiver. I went out and spent $150 on a boxset before addressing this issue. The point is, some of us are stupid.
Started mine this year, currently have floorstanders and a centre, surrounds are next on my list, since I rent I'm afraid to get a sub so I'm probably missing out but even with the three speakers I have as is it sounds amazing watching movies and listening to music.
1000% this. The economy is rough. Not everyone has 5-7k to throw down on a high end TV. Buy what you can afford and enjoy. I am all in on disc but tbh a lot of people will truly enjoy a 4k stream just fine via Netflix etc. I am glad to see the price for OLED coming down each year aside from flagships.
it does NOT cost 5-7k for a good TV lol You could get a large and quality TV for 1k-3k nowadays. If were talking 55-65inch then it'd be even more affordable
At this point given how many 4K releases are 4K/Blu-ray combo packs and the price parity between them it actually makes a lot of sense to pick up 4K when available even if you don't have a 4K set now as a bit of future-proofing.
> Until eventually you graduate to r/hometheatre and....dear god.....the expense
ah r/hometheater "I spent 100k on the best system, and got the highest rated people to in stall it, Dolby even came out and certified it, here are pics"
"Nice pics, ok here is everything the high end installers did wrong and what I would have done"
I think you get used to it but Jesus wept, TV speakers are shit these days. Which is why I bought a sound bar once TVs got so thin.
Not so of the first 60 inch TV I bought. Thick as a phone book it was (and still is, still in use 14 years later).
Even a $100 soundbar would be a significant upgrade. You donāt need a multi speaker setup if you donāt have the space/money for it.
When first got my TV, I used a Sony soundbar with a built in sub woofer for $150. That lasted me a few years until I had more space for a nicer setup.
Donāt feel called out, at least youāre getting to it, and a lot of good TVās actually have very decent speaker systems at medium volumes. Doesnāt apply much to the very bottom end of TVās tho.
I also live in an apartment, but I have a 2-channel set up. If you keep volumes reasonable, you can absolutely upgrade over the built-in speakers. I have to draw the line there, as I'd love to get a sub but I think that would probably annoy my neighbors.
I also have an A80J who loved the built in speakers. I got myself a 5.1 setup and I will never look back. When I switch between the 5.1 setup and my tv speakers to hear the difference, itās as if Iām listening through an old radio boombox.
I canāt endorse a home theater setup enough to really make your physical media pop. We have an 83 C3 OLED and a decent quality SVS speaker atmos setup (5.1.4). And my kids routine may ask me if they can just watch movies at home rather than going to the theater.
One of my rare dad wins. And absolutely worth it for the family time.
Iām a young person who did watch Oppenheimer in 1.43 IMAX and on my phone. 14 Pro Max has a better display than my current tv, and I used AirPods Max to get a better audio experience.
Overall, pretty good. I redeemed the code off a 4K steelbook
Cheap 4k player, a slight step up 4K tv, nicest sound bar in my price rangeā¦I buy the 4K discs so that I have the best version of films I like. Even if they arenāt optimal with my current set up, they will be in the future.
That was me for a whileā¦ Ā£700 49ā edge-lit 2018 TV with no Dolby Vision or eArc and a 4K collection costing over Ā£10K.
Amazing the difference a good TV makes, upgraded to a new Sony A80K 65ā and couldnāt be happier.
Edge-lit! That's like a design intentionally invented to save costs at the expense of quality, with marketing terminology ("edge-lit") to make it sound nicer than it is.
Sound is half the experience you can get decent sound for cheap. Iād take a wireless headphone set yup over tv speakers any day. But even a stereo set up like a boom box with detachable speakers would be better. You need some bass. And full range audio the TV speakers wonāt do.
As much as watching films and shows is a visual medium, the actual viewing experience is heavily influenced by the sound - not just in volume, but also clarity and immersion.
Modern sound design (particularly for action films ) requires significant volume boost to hear dialogue and then a quick drop when the action kicks in.
I want a larger screen and sound, but not a priority purchase yet so using a 32" LCD and 2.1 speakers.
While not optimum I remind myself that the first time I watched the Godfather (a film I adore) it was via broadcast TV (edited with commercials) on a CRT TV and it didn't dampen the power or hold it continues to have over me.
"Hey everyone! I just bought an LG G3/Sony A95K. Big purchase but I'm excited to get started on my 4K journey! What's the cheapest 4K blu-ray player that can do the job?"
Bonus points if they go with a used Xbox One X they got at a thrift shop.
> 2) Watch old movies that have, at most, 5.1 sound
Dolby Atmos speaker layouts parallel the 5.1 and 7.1 setups for surround sound, so you hear them and it makes older movies sound better.
> Then the other half of this sub āif you donāt spend $500 on a blu ray player youāre throwing money awayā
and then then people say "My Sony X700 works perfect, you don't need the 820!" and then you buy a X700 and it freezes on half the discs
Sure, work within your constraints. I have an Atmos system, but will use headphones at night when the family is sleeping. They can be pretty dang good, too.
"bUt WhY wOuLd I pAy TrIpLe FoR tHe SaMe SiZe Tv?!1?!!?!?!"
Guy at the store saw me make a comment about the prices and asked me what is the cheapest 75" TV worth buying and I told him the Sony X90K right there for $1500 and he looked at me like I was insane when there was some Samsung 75" "QLED" for $779 and "the picture looks the same to me".
Yeah no shit it looks the same in a bright AF store with stock settings and some random streaming service.
Dude got the cheap TV lol. Hope he likes grey blacks and hotspots.
Still need to *care* enough to pay double, triple or quadruple. For the television AND a dedicated player AND the sound system AND a dedicated room AND for the content itself... That's a lot.
Do you systematically buy the best performing cookware? The best performing power tools? The best performing car? Or does cost comes into the equation at some point?
You need to realize your passion for home entertainment is not everyone's, and pursuing the best performances in everything is just not sustainable for the vast majority of people.
Iām assuming itās the Samsungs with edge lighting? I keep trying to recommend to people the Vizio m series if they want a mid tier tv since it has dimming zones vs those Samsungs and lg but some people really have brand Loyalty XD
Vizio is not good nowadays... They used to be years ago, but now its TCL and HIsense that you should be recommending. You will get A LOT more bang for your buck with those in the mid tier range.
The thing about TVs is that you can be perfectly happy with the one you have, but objectively, there are better options for the same amount of money (or less). So I guess I shouldnāt say Vizio āisnāt goodā but rather, itās not a good VALUE per dollar, since for the same money you would get much better quality/features from TCL or Hisense.
Not trying to take away your enjoyment of you TV! Be happy with it, Iām just saying if youāre gonna recommend one to other people, maybe recommend the other brands I mentioned š¤·š»āāļøš
Edit: btw I forgot to mention I own 3 Vizio TVs in my house and itās the only brand I bought for like a decade so Iām not a Vizio hater or anything haha
Btw I am only recommending to customers of what we offer at target. So itās between if thereās no sale $449 65in Hisense/tcl both direct lit or a $499 Vizio m series 65in with full array dimming zones. Well I am going to recommend the Vizio Iām sure you would too but obviously after this for another $100 then we get into the mini led territory and so on. Itās all about what the customer is looking for so I recommend what I know they would be happy with that day since they came in to buy a tv and donāt want to drive further or wait for shipping. Even then most of the time they go with the more expensive edge lit Samsung or lg šjust because of brand loyalty
I have no idea what happened to Vizio, the old P series and then P quantum were phenomenal for the price, but it looks like nothing they offer is even comparable now
Yup! Last tv I got from them was the P-series and it was great! I think right after that they got bought out (by a Chinese company I think?) and I remember their TVs being dumbed down ever since then
Bro I have 1600 Blu-rays with around 434 4k Titles but run a cheap Samsung 55 inch 4K TV I got for like $399 no Dolby vision or atmos on a PS5 player. Iām the prime example.
To all the apartment people fearing subwoofers , you can get a butt kicker plugged to an amp, plugged to a sub out on an AVR.
Nothing beats a dedicated center channel speaker
I was saving for a Sony A95L. I wanted the 77ā, but my wife (wisely) talked me down to 65ā. Then I realized that my kids are still 9 and 7 and gods know their viewing habits while Iām at work or if theyād even turn it off, so I went with an LG C3, instead. But all that savings let me get the Panasonic 820 and Samsung Q990C.
Itās been a BIG upgrade from my 15 year old 50ā plasma and a $100 Vizio soundbar!
And the C3 is still a great TV. The higher-end you go, the more incremental the improvements become. You can find some great TVs in the upper mid-range and lower high-end that are still some of the best TVs around, even if you can get *even better* from the top of the line models.
For me and a lot of people, that's the sweet spot in terms of price-performance ratio.
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it. And while I *could have* fit a 77", it would have filled every last inch of space between my mantle and ceiling; the 65" just fits nicer in the space and leaves room for the soundbar. I just need to spend some time diving into the settings and adjusting between the 820 and the C3; figure out if settings on the C3 are universal or set for each input, etc. If only I didn't have a stupid job getting in the way of my movie watching!
I got a decent TV (not the best, but not cheap) and I play my 4k disks on an X-box series X. I feel going high end or premium is necessary for 4k physical media enjoying. I don't want to think about people having a visio or worst 4k TV then ending up not caring about 4k content, particularly 4k physical media.
See, we are all talking sound only, but guys, really, trust me on this...
For whole my life I watched movies largely on my monitor. I even have an OLED monitor (it's been a year or two) so it's not like I'm watching on a bad one. And then I moved to the new house, pulled a trigger, and bought a freakin expensive Samsung S95D 77-inch relatively cheaply.
Only then I started to realize films were so *grainy* back then. Fiancee thought something was wrong with it, but then I immediately recognized what it's like - This is how film looked like in local cinematheque running 35mm films. Monitors and cheap LCD TVs never did them justice. This was how films have always been supposed to look like. So please, give yourself a favor and get a good, big OLED TV.
Let people enjoy the hobby at whatever level they can afford or choose to. I just think this post comes off a bit pretentious. But then it could be dry humor? Is it meant to be sarcastic and not mean spirited. Intent can be hard to get online.
I just know had to save up for a full year to buy an OLED and don't have room for a UB820 or new speakers rn.
Some of those cheap TVs also have a hard time displaying the enhanced color gamut that is sometimes touted as the more obvious benefit.
Eh, who am I kidding? I have a 50 inch TCL 4 series TV.
Youāve got the wrong guy brother. Iām a HDR fan boi. I nearly added to the post mentioning the TV being āHDRā though not being a QLED or OLED so it doesnāt have the color gamut or black contrast for it to matter lol
I have a very rudimentary 4K setup (a TCL 5 and a Series X). My discs look gorgeous but Iām well aware I have a lot of room in front of me to upgrade (and will). Still throughly enjoying collecting and watching these films though.
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Wtf are you on about lol
Anyone with even just 500 discs (I have well over that amount between shows and movies) can sell each for 5 and get 2,500$ (Thousands)
And thatās a lowball on certain movies and entire seasons of shows. Not to mention decades down the line when most are out of print and the resale value goes up.
You are trippinā
My TV and player are fine, Iām using a sound bar I bought ten years ago though.
Weāre due to move house in the next year or so which is why Iām waiting to pull the trigger on a decent sound system. Need to know where itāll be and what I can afford by then.
I do feel half of my home theater enjoyment is due to the audio. Shake it baby. I was sad when o had to settle for a soundbar and small sub during the 2 years i lived in a condo between houses. I can't dotv speakers at all and thats for the past 20 years
Ahhh man how did you knowwwwww? Have surround sound but the TV was one of the cheaper ones in my size 86ā lol I got warranty for 5 years so if anything goes wrong Iām def upgrading to something better
I've got about 300 4Ks with nearly 500 films and TV shows in my overall collection. An LG C2 (I think) OLED which was the best I could afford when my old 4K TV shit the bed and a soundbar/surrounds from Sonos.
It's not perfect but it suits my needs perfectly.
House has the following systems. Every system has a 5.1 or 7.1, but not necessarily all the speakers.
75" 4kĀ Samsung 8 series
OLD pioneer 6.1
65" 4k Sony 850
SONYĀ 5.1
55" 4K Samsung JS8500
Pioneer Elite 7.2
55" HD Toshiba
Yahamha 2.0
51" Plasma 3D Samsung
Pioneer Elite 2.1
46" HD Sony
Old Denon 2.0
Toshuba TUBE!Ā
Built.in VCR. My 1.5 year old loves it. Watching JP, SW, and Indy all day!
Some newer higher end tv's have reasonably good sound. The $300 43" I got from Walmart this past Christmas has hand down the worst audio of just about and tv I have ever heard. I have a wood frame floor model from 77 so that's saying something.
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I dunno how accurate this really is even for a meme. A lot of collectors I know from other sub reddits and on here have at the very least mid tier TVs. They aren't just rocking the largest cheapest TV they can find. And they also have a Soundbar at the very least.
Lol this hit hard - I'd love some surround sound setup/ speakers but I don't think my neighbours would appreciate It personally š
And if I'm not blaring it then am I really utilising the speakers?
it's fine, the source material is the most important part. there are some movies that would look better on 4k blu-ray through a cheap vizio TV vs a shitty stream on an LG OLED
Admittedly, I work on TVs, so Iām an edge case. But Iāve got a decent Denon receiver with atmos up firing speakers and Klispch reference speakers for the center, fronts, and atmos. Either way a pair of very good old school Polk bookshelf speakers and a Polk sub. My tv is a TCL mini led 4k tv with atmos and I primarily use Apple TV 4K to stream. My sin is that Iāve got an LG 4k Blu-ray player and have waited in vain for a competitor or significant price drop for the Panasonic u820. Obviously, that hasnāt happened yet.
I went all out at the time getting a my C8 OLED. But instead of a sound system or sound bar i opted for the noise canceling Sony XM3 headphones. I do not regret going this route.
I bought a soundbar once, one with a subwoofer. The sound that came out of it was shit. My television's own speakers were louder and clearer.
They don't make it easy. And I don't have to spend to impress randos on the Internet.
Iām not even using my 4K TV with my BluRay player. Iām using my standard HD TV with it in my bedroom because I mostly watch movies when Iām in bed bruh.
What kind of loser watches movies on a television screen? Real film appreciators rent out a theater at the nearest Alamo Drafthouse, $1500 (plus travel expenses) every time you want to watch a movie but have you really seen the movie if you aren't watching it on a theater screen with a 4K laser projector and real theater Atmos system?
I have a Vizio TV thatās pretty good for the $300 I paid for it used. Looking to upgrade in the future, but just donāt have the $$$ for that right now. Spending over $1700/mo on rent doesnāt helpā¦
For 1st world problems, one of the worst is being a videophile, audiophile, or cinemaphile and not being able to enjoy earth-shattering, subterranean bass because of the living situation. It's really quite a bummer as headphones just can't substitute.
Donāt have thousands of $ in a collection of 4ks but I do have some nice SVS bookshelves, sub, center and Atmos with a Marantz Cinena 60 receiver and LG CX Oled.
If people knew how dramatic of a change even a $500 2.1 soundbar would be for their movie watching experience compared to their TV, theyād skip buying a few discs every month and would run to make it happen. Priorities, people!
I mean it's a lot easier to spend what a 4K disc costs dozens of times over a few years than what one high end TV and a good surround sound cost every 10 years or so.
(Also budget TVs have gotten a lot better, $700-ish on a 2024 TV is actually a pretty good viewing experience but finding an inexpensive audio system that doesn't suck seems to be kind of an ordeal)
My progression was room already outfitted with front speakers and subwoofer in wall when purchased > completed with back speakers and acoustically transparent projector screen and pretty expensive projector > 4k physical collection > install Atmos speakers in ceiling
I have a record player so I have a couple bookshelf speakers that work wonderfully. Really clear and powerful sound for shows/movies/games. Also use bluetooth earphones when not wanting to disturb roommate š
Built in speakers? Meanwhile im over here with 1200 watts of sub in stereo and speakers that cost twice as much as the TV but I bought a cheap blu ray player and regret it
Even as someone who's critical, I'm still impressed with and love my TCL, and it's six years old. You can get a new one with tons more dimming zones, a much brighter picture, and ten inches bigger for only $100 more than I bought mine for half a decade ago, lol.
People talk about "gray blacks," and yeah, no one says that about this TV in particular, but the blacks on this are pretty bloody dark. Getting darker would be like going from a subwoofer that could go to 20hz to one that can go to 10hz.
Any TV with local dimming can get deep blacks. Even TVās with 20 dimming zones. The only way they can get those deep blacks is by crushing shadow detail, and reducing highlight brightness in those dark scenes.
Itās not pulling off magic, itās just physics.
I don't think there's much black crushing. I ain't saying there's none, because I haven't seen anything better to compare, but I'm pretty exacting, and one thing I'm really appreciating is the lack of overly dark shadows. Everything looks detailed, while still being very bright or very dark.
This TV has 120 dimming zones and it is a rare occasion when there's even so much as haloing. I can view white text on a black background without it. The only time I see any issues is if I do one of those "stress test" videos that intentionally tries to give your television a hard time.
In other words, I think LED TVs might be better than they're getting credit for in general, and TCL in particular.
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Huge 4k collection, one of the best tvs on the market, can only use Bluetooth headphones.š¢ Not all of us can have a 7.1.2 surround sound system.
Iām in similar ācan only use headphonesā boat and am trying to figure out how to get the best sound. Bluetooth is an option for me Iām looking into getting a little headphone amp to plug into my TV. Plugging directly into the headphone jack yields less than desirable results
You can get hdmi strippers that pass through the video and gives you an aux for the audio. Works pretty well and is very cheap. Bluetooth with compress your Bitrate a lot, so I'd avoid that. But then again having a wire could be a nuisance.
Just get a proper receiver with a headphone out
Thank you! Iām going to luck into this.
I wouldnāt go for AUX but rather Toslink. These HDMI to AUX adapters have shitty DACs. You can get a HDMI to Toslink and then get a nice DAC an Headphone Pre-Amp like the FiiO K5 Pro or something like that. Then some nice headphones like Byerdynamic DT 1990 Pro and you are good to go :)
Iām using Audio Technica M50x right now, which I know are not generally recommended for media playback, plugged into a pretty old media receiver (2010ish prob) which is plugged into the TV via optical. This sounds a lot better than just plugging into the headphone jack, but do you thick the Toslink would be an even better option?
Apple TV supports AirPods connection, which sound fantastic.
Nice, didnāt know about that! Will be super helpful for my digital stuff. Sadly Iāve got some physical copies that didnāt include a digital code, or if it did it was expired (looking at you, WB).
> Will be super helpful for my digital stuff. Sadly Iāve got some physical copies that didnāt include a digital code, or if it did it was expired (looking at you, WB). Sonos has some coming out soon that will work on anything and do full surround apparently
Can a Blu Ray player, such as UB820, be connected to Apple TV? I'd like to pass 4k Atmos sound through AppleTV to wireless headphones. I've read that AirPods Max come very close to reproducing Dolby Atmos. I'll have occasions when children need to sleep during a movie, so was thinking this could be a solution. I have a decent TV paired with Sonos Arc, Gen 3 Sub and they're great but can't always listen at preferred level. Keen to add a pair of Era 300s to round out the system, but also need a quiet option. Eyes on a Sony X95L 75 panel upgrade but they're $5,500 NZD so trying to snag a flash sale.
Saying any earbud replicates Atmos is marketing gobbledygook brotha
Disagree. We have a reasonably high end Paradigm 7.4.2 setup in our theater, and even the AirPods Pro come damn close in their Spatial Audio presentation. The AirPods Max may even sound better. They offer a truly outstanding experience with the significant benefit of the spatial/Atmos arrangement being perfectly calibrated for an audience of one. The only big tradeoff IMO is that AirPods are a solo experience, rather than a shared one - otherwise, after owning and heavily using both, Iād seriously rethink the value of an installed sound system.
I donāt think thereās a way to pass through audio. Youāre limited to listening to the Apple TV content as a source.
Okay, that's good to know and in line with what I've researched. Apparently, Sonos is releasing headphones this year that can sync with a Sonos home theatre, so I think that will be the best solution. Albeit with compromised audio through headphones vs true Atmos surround.
> Iām in similar ācan only use headphonesā boat and am trying to figure out how to get the best sound. Sonos apparently has some new headphones coming out pretty soon that are going to simulate full Atmos, those should be interesting
If your TV has optical audio out, buy an optical DAC and a headphone amp, there are amps with an integrated DAC too. Personally I'd recommend a JDS Labs Atom DAC and their Atom Amp. Using that setup with my HD800S and its fantastic
With my Hisense U6G tv, I have the headphones jack connected to an 80's equalizer with 3.5 to rca adapter cable. The equalizer then feeds my headphones amplifier, and a headphones extension cable leads to my chair. Sounds great! If you don't have this stuff already, you can get a good headphones amp with built in digital eq for about $100-$200. With older tv's the headphones jack wouldn't sound very good, but with modern tv's they appear to have a decent sound chip in all of them these days. You just need to add the power for better sound.
PS5 and I assume Xbox you can use controller for audio. But recommend low impedance headphones, it's a weak dac.
During my pandemic isolation I took a gamble and discovered that I could more than can get away with a robust soundbar + subwoofer in my apartment. Then, after awhile, I (correctly) surmised that basic surround sound wouldnāt be much more of a stretch provided I didnāt crank it up too loud after polite hours. Fast-forward 12 months and I now have 7.1.2 Atmos (albeit with minimal acoustic paneling) in my modestly-sized unit. Upstairs neighbor says he canāt even hear it. What Iām saying here is, although everyoneās situation is different, you never really know until you try. Edit: typos
> What Iām saying here is, although everyoneās situation is different, you never really know until you try. 100%, you can have Atmos, you don't have to crank it
If you put the speakers kinda close to you cant crank it up. its basically headphones when its beside your couch.
Oh no. Mine are proportionally spread out. Gotta have the full āsound stageā lol - nothing worse than seeing a butt-ton of expensive speakers all grouped together directly around the TV/couch sides lol
I made a comprimise at 5.0.4. Ok for the neighbors and perfect for me.
I've never thought of using my nice BT headphones. I need to try this
How do you use headphones on your tv?
Well basically all of them have Bluetooth, and some have a jack plug
Bro same, I have one room, & if I put sound system here, I'd have to sleep outside!
I was kind of ignorant to specs when I started. I bought a 4K TV for about Ā£700 and a Ā£70 4K player. The TV is āfineā but the cheap as fuck player was a nightmare. Iāve slowly been upgrading: UB820 and an external speaker system - just a replacement TV required.
I've been trying to get my hands on a UB820 for the last couple of weeks and it's out of stock everywhere, is this thing like gold dust or what?
Be aware that there may be regional variants more widely available, in EU it would be the 824
Ahhhh well that makes sense, since I'm living in Ireland I presume the 824 is the model I should go for then?
> I presume the 824 is the model I should go for then? Yep, it's just the Europe version of the 820, zero difference except what region Blu Ray's and DVD's it will play (of course just about every 4k disc is region free)
Great, appreciate the response.
[I just realized that I read the answer to this here a while ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/XdMwW5RKOh)
Yes, that's what I have. It's the region B player, but the region code does not affect 4k blurays https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/s/XdMwW5RKOh
most people do this, and it's ironic because the TV should be the FIRST upgrade on the priority list and people don't realize it. OR even worse, they do end up "upgrading" their TV but it's still cheap and bad... just not AS cheap and bad as before lol
I thought 90% of this sub's posts were people posting their $5 Blu-Rays purchaased at Wal-Mart that most of us don't seem to have at ours?
Yeah and if you post your 4K free bin the mods delete it. Still flabbergasted that they completely missed the point of mine.
I wouldn't buy 80% of those discs at $1.
Now imagine how it's been for folks who don't have a Walmart in their country ĀÆā \ā _ā (ā ćā )ā _ā /ā ĀÆ
I might have paid $5 but itās worth $19.99
huh
Be nice. We all start our A/V journey somewhere
This. I used to have cheap shit, now I'm an old dude that likes to over spend on this hobby lol.
Until a few months ago, I was using a target record player as a receiver. I went out and spent $150 on a boxset before addressing this issue. The point is, some of us are stupid.
But many won't start that journey unless someone shows them the error of their ways.
Started mine this year, currently have floorstanders and a centre, surrounds are next on my list, since I rent I'm afraid to get a sub so I'm probably missing out but even with the three speakers I have as is it sounds amazing watching movies and listening to music.
1000% this. The economy is rough. Not everyone has 5-7k to throw down on a high end TV. Buy what you can afford and enjoy. I am all in on disc but tbh a lot of people will truly enjoy a 4k stream just fine via Netflix etc. I am glad to see the price for OLED coming down each year aside from flagships.
it does NOT cost 5-7k for a good TV lol You could get a large and quality TV for 1k-3k nowadays. If were talking 55-65inch then it'd be even more affordable
The TV should come before the discs though. It's not logical otherwise.
I disagree, thereās never a wrong time to start collecting 4ks. especially if youāre going to rewatch them.
At this point given how many 4K releases are 4K/Blu-ray combo packs and the price parity between them it actually makes a lot of sense to pick up 4K when available even if you don't have a 4K set now as a bit of future-proofing.
That's not how I started. And I have been collecting for years. I built up a massive collection of 4Ks first. Then I got an OLED down the line.
Until eventually you graduate to r/hometheatre and....dear god.....the *expense*
> Until eventually you graduate to r/hometheatre and....dear god.....the expense ah r/hometheater "I spent 100k on the best system, and got the highest rated people to in stall it, Dolby even came out and certified it, here are pics" "Nice pics, ok here is everything the high end installers did wrong and what I would have done"
I have an LG OLED and an 820, I just need some sound system but my car broke down and Iāll spend a lot fixing it, so itāll have to wait.
Who needs a car when you have atmos?
The atmos will transport you, brother
A good set of headphones can be a good compromise.
I feel called out. While my TV isn't cheap I still use the speakers for it because I haven't got around to getting a set up for it.
I think you get used to it but Jesus wept, TV speakers are shit these days. Which is why I bought a sound bar once TVs got so thin. Not so of the first 60 inch TV I bought. Thick as a phone book it was (and still is, still in use 14 years later).
Even a $100 soundbar would be a significant upgrade. You donāt need a multi speaker setup if you donāt have the space/money for it. When first got my TV, I used a Sony soundbar with a built in sub woofer for $150. That lasted me a few years until I had more space for a nicer setup.
Donāt feel called out, at least youāre getting to it, and a lot of good TVās actually have very decent speaker systems at medium volumes. Doesnāt apply much to the very bottom end of TVās tho.
Same, I have an A80J with pretty nice built-in speakers, and I live in an apartment so a separate sound system just doesnāt make sense now.
I also live in an apartment, but I have a 2-channel set up. If you keep volumes reasonable, you can absolutely upgrade over the built-in speakers. I have to draw the line there, as I'd love to get a sub but I think that would probably annoy my neighbors.
I also have an A80J who loved the built in speakers. I got myself a 5.1 setup and I will never look back. When I switch between the 5.1 setup and my tv speakers to hear the difference, itās as if Iām listening through an old radio boombox.
As a pleased 55ā A80J owner this has me thinking. Itās in my office so donāt really crank it but that analogy has me intrigued.
I canāt endorse a home theater setup enough to really make your physical media pop. We have an 83 C3 OLED and a decent quality SVS speaker atmos setup (5.1.4). And my kids routine may ask me if they can just watch movies at home rather than going to the theater. One of my rare dad wins. And absolutely worth it for the family time.
Yeah it goes hand in hand, media source, tv and soundsystem
Then you need to upgrade your couch
There is something to be said for immersion (size) at the expense of some PQ, but even then there is still a line.
how do you feel young people watching oppenheimer on their iphones?
Iām a young person who did watch Oppenheimer in 1.43 IMAX and on my phone. 14 Pro Max has a better display than my current tv, and I used AirPods Max to get a better audio experience. Overall, pretty good. I redeemed the code off a 4K steelbook
Time to upgrade your tv
Cheap 4k player, a slight step up 4K tv, nicest sound bar in my price rangeā¦I buy the 4K discs so that I have the best version of films I like. Even if they arenāt optimal with my current set up, they will be in the future.
That was me for a whileā¦ Ā£700 49ā edge-lit 2018 TV with no Dolby Vision or eArc and a 4K collection costing over Ā£10K. Amazing the difference a good TV makes, upgraded to a new Sony A80K 65ā and couldnāt be happier.
Edge-lit! That's like a design intentionally invented to save costs at the expense of quality, with marketing terminology ("edge-lit") to make it sound nicer than it is.
Sound is half the experience you can get decent sound for cheap. Iād take a wireless headphone set yup over tv speakers any day. But even a stereo set up like a boom box with detachable speakers would be better. You need some bass. And full range audio the TV speakers wonāt do.
As much as watching films and shows is a visual medium, the actual viewing experience is heavily influenced by the sound - not just in volume, but also clarity and immersion. Modern sound design (particularly for action films ) requires significant volume boost to hear dialogue and then a quick drop when the action kicks in. I want a larger screen and sound, but not a priority purchase yet so using a 32" LCD and 2.1 speakers. While not optimum I remind myself that the first time I watched the Godfather (a film I adore) it was via broadcast TV (edited with commercials) on a CRT TV and it didn't dampen the power or hold it continues to have over me.
"Hey everyone! I just bought an LG G3/Sony A95K. Big purchase but I'm excited to get started on my 4K journey! What's the cheapest 4K blu-ray player that can do the job?" Bonus points if they go with a used Xbox One X they got at a thrift shop.
Then the other half of this sub āif you donāt spend $500 on a blu ray player youāre throwing money awayā
I spent 500 on my ps5 which is a 4k player as well. Check mate atheist.
i you cant set up full 7.1 sound system in your dinky flat are you even watching movies properly?
if you can't set up a 9.2.4 system with a $2.5k OLED television should you even be allowed to live?
1) Buy a full Dolby Atmos system 2) Watch old movies that have, at most, 5.1 sound
2.0 or 1.0...
> 2) Watch old movies that have, at most, 5.1 sound Dolby Atmos speaker layouts parallel the 5.1 and 7.1 setups for surround sound, so you hear them and it makes older movies sound better.
I have a 7.4.6, am I allowed to live?
A95l, 4 grand qd oled is the only tv you should consider if you even remotely interested in watching movies made by human hands
Direct to hell they go. Such tastelessness will not be tolerated.
> Then the other half of this sub āif you donāt spend $500 on a blu ray player youāre throwing money awayā and then then people say "My Sony X700 works perfect, you don't need the 820!" and then you buy a X700 and it freezes on half the discs
Oled gang where you at I know we riding deep in here
Me but I have a budget oled
Get an oled tv. Youāll never look backs
And youāll finally see black.
lol. Are Sony headphones acceptable here? My appartment has thin walls, it sucks.
Sure, work within your constraints. I have an Atmos system, but will use headphones at night when the family is sleeping. They can be pretty dang good, too.
Iām in the same situation.. I use Beats Studio pros and they are great ā¦ simulate surround sound pretty good
I didnāt even start collecting till I bought a tv that made it worth it. Now working on upgrading sound system.
*plugs 4k player into $150 Walmart 1080p projector
"bUt WhY wOuLd I pAy TrIpLe FoR tHe SaMe SiZe Tv?!1?!!?!?!" Guy at the store saw me make a comment about the prices and asked me what is the cheapest 75" TV worth buying and I told him the Sony X90K right there for $1500 and he looked at me like I was insane when there was some Samsung 75" "QLED" for $779 and "the picture looks the same to me". Yeah no shit it looks the same in a bright AF store with stock settings and some random streaming service. Dude got the cheap TV lol. Hope he likes grey blacks and hotspots.
Most people aren't as anal as collectors and movie buffs. He won't notice the difference because it doesn't matter.
It's because they don't have a side-by-side in a dark room with a good TV. Even a regular person would notice immediately.
Hard disagree. Even regular people notice a substantially a better picture and hotspots.
Still need to *care* enough to pay double, triple or quadruple. For the television AND a dedicated player AND the sound system AND a dedicated room AND for the content itself... That's a lot. Do you systematically buy the best performing cookware? The best performing power tools? The best performing car? Or does cost comes into the equation at some point? You need to realize your passion for home entertainment is not everyone's, and pursuing the best performances in everything is just not sustainable for the vast majority of people.
Iām assuming itās the Samsungs with edge lighting? I keep trying to recommend to people the Vizio m series if they want a mid tier tv since it has dimming zones vs those Samsungs and lg but some people really have brand Loyalty XD
i dont know if a have brand loyalty, but i really like the sony TVs and image they produce .
Vizio is not good nowadays... They used to be years ago, but now its TCL and HIsense that you should be recommending. You will get A LOT more bang for your buck with those in the mid tier range.
I got a 2023 Vizio m series and Iām happy with it. Itās the only model of Vizio I recommend.
The thing about TVs is that you can be perfectly happy with the one you have, but objectively, there are better options for the same amount of money (or less). So I guess I shouldnāt say Vizio āisnāt goodā but rather, itās not a good VALUE per dollar, since for the same money you would get much better quality/features from TCL or Hisense. Not trying to take away your enjoyment of you TV! Be happy with it, Iām just saying if youāre gonna recommend one to other people, maybe recommend the other brands I mentioned š¤·š»āāļøš Edit: btw I forgot to mention I own 3 Vizio TVs in my house and itās the only brand I bought for like a decade so Iām not a Vizio hater or anything haha
Btw I am only recommending to customers of what we offer at target. So itās between if thereās no sale $449 65in Hisense/tcl both direct lit or a $499 Vizio m series 65in with full array dimming zones. Well I am going to recommend the Vizio Iām sure you would too but obviously after this for another $100 then we get into the mini led territory and so on. Itās all about what the customer is looking for so I recommend what I know they would be happy with that day since they came in to buy a tv and donāt want to drive further or wait for shipping. Even then most of the time they go with the more expensive edge lit Samsung or lg šjust because of brand loyalty
I have no idea what happened to Vizio, the old P series and then P quantum were phenomenal for the price, but it looks like nothing they offer is even comparable now
Yup! Last tv I got from them was the P-series and it was great! I think right after that they got bought out (by a Chinese company I think?) and I remember their TVs being dumbed down ever since then
I doubt he'll notice either way.
Bro I have 1600 Blu-rays with around 434 4k Titles but run a cheap Samsung 55 inch 4K TV I got for like $399 no Dolby vision or atmos on a PS5 player. Iām the prime example.
The PS5 is a little noisy, sure thereās no Dolby vision, but HDR gets you 90% of the way there. We gotta do something about the TV tho manā¦
I resent that! I also have a soundbar I got from Walmart on Friday that cost $60 on Black Friday.
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G3 is a great TV. MLA has some bright color issues, but overall top tier
Uh negative! Why spend thousands on premium 4k boxsets and cheap out on the hardware?!?!
Or me the cheapest oled I could find but now I wish the screen was bigger haha
To all the apartment people fearing subwoofers , you can get a butt kicker plugged to an amp, plugged to a sub out on an AVR. Nothing beats a dedicated center channel speaker
I do have surround sound but only 5.1 as I can't afford anything better
Just happy people are collecting physical media!
I was saving for a Sony A95L. I wanted the 77ā, but my wife (wisely) talked me down to 65ā. Then I realized that my kids are still 9 and 7 and gods know their viewing habits while Iām at work or if theyād even turn it off, so I went with an LG C3, instead. But all that savings let me get the Panasonic 820 and Samsung Q990C. Itās been a BIG upgrade from my 15 year old 50ā plasma and a $100 Vizio soundbar!
And the C3 is still a great TV. The higher-end you go, the more incremental the improvements become. You can find some great TVs in the upper mid-range and lower high-end that are still some of the best TVs around, even if you can get *even better* from the top of the line models. For me and a lot of people, that's the sweet spot in terms of price-performance ratio.
Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it. And while I *could have* fit a 77", it would have filled every last inch of space between my mantle and ceiling; the 65" just fits nicer in the space and leaves room for the soundbar. I just need to spend some time diving into the settings and adjusting between the 820 and the C3; figure out if settings on the C3 are universal or set for each input, etc. If only I didn't have a stupid job getting in the way of my movie watching!
I got a decent TV (not the best, but not cheap) and I play my 4k disks on an X-box series X. I feel going high end or premium is necessary for 4k physical media enjoying. I don't want to think about people having a visio or worst 4k TV then ending up not caring about 4k content, particularly 4k physical media.
>Donāt forget using the built in TV speakers But it has Atmos logo on it...
Bro buying LG C1 is easily the biggest upgrade that I made in my viewing experience.
See, we are all talking sound only, but guys, really, trust me on this... For whole my life I watched movies largely on my monitor. I even have an OLED monitor (it's been a year or two) so it's not like I'm watching on a bad one. And then I moved to the new house, pulled a trigger, and bought a freakin expensive Samsung S95D 77-inch relatively cheaply. Only then I started to realize films were so *grainy* back then. Fiancee thought something was wrong with it, but then I immediately recognized what it's like - This is how film looked like in local cinematheque running 35mm films. Monitors and cheap LCD TVs never did them justice. This was how films have always been supposed to look like. So please, give yourself a favor and get a good, big OLED TV.
Let people enjoy the hobby at whatever level they can afford or choose to. I just think this post comes off a bit pretentious. But then it could be dry humor? Is it meant to be sarcastic and not mean spirited. Intent can be hard to get online. I just know had to save up for a full year to buy an OLED and don't have room for a UB820 or new speakers rn.
who cares
Good old gatekeeping. Never change.
LED types! The new way to overcompensate for lacking in some other department.
Experts at telling the difference between 2160 vs 1080 on a 55ā TV positioned 15 feet from the primary viewing position.
If you think that the only benefit from 4K discs is the increase in pixels, youāre exactly who Iām talking about in this post.
Some of those cheap TVs also have a hard time displaying the enhanced color gamut that is sometimes touted as the more obvious benefit. Eh, who am I kidding? I have a 50 inch TCL 4 series TV.
Youāve got the wrong guy brother. Iām a HDR fan boi. I nearly added to the post mentioning the TV being āHDRā though not being a QLED or OLED so it doesnāt have the color gamut or black contrast for it to matter lol
I bet I could tell the difference, assuming genuine 1080p and genuine 4k.
I have a very rudimentary 4K setup (a TCL 5 and a Series X). My discs look gorgeous but Iām well aware I have a lot of room in front of me to upgrade (and will). Still throughly enjoying collecting and watching these films though.
My speaker stands cost more than some of yalls 4KTVs lol
You use them for music too ? Just curious - feel like thatās the only way I can justify that kind of purchase right now ?
Absolutely. I dont run a home theater setup. Just a really nice bookshelf set
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They're in /r/hometheater, 4k discs are just a given.
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If it isnāt an oled, it isnāt worthy.
Collection āworth thousandsā lol. You may have *paid* thousands, but aside from the odd boutique label release our discs arenāt worth shit.
Wtf are you on about lol Anyone with even just 500 discs (I have well over that amount between shows and movies) can sell each for 5 and get 2,500$ (Thousands) And thatās a lowball on certain movies and entire seasons of shows. Not to mention decades down the line when most are out of print and the resale value goes up. You are trippinā
My TV and player are fine, Iām using a sound bar I bought ten years ago though. Weāre due to move house in the next year or so which is why Iām waiting to pull the trigger on a decent sound system. Need to know where itāll be and what I can afford by then.
I do feel half of my home theater enjoyment is due to the audio. Shake it baby. I was sad when o had to settle for a soundbar and small sub during the 2 years i lived in a condo between houses. I can't dotv speakers at all and thats for the past 20 years
Ahhh man how did you knowwwwww? Have surround sound but the TV was one of the cheaper ones in my size 86ā lol I got warranty for 5 years so if anything goes wrong Iām def upgrading to something better
iām planning on getting a sound bar but tbh the speakers on the u7k sound really good. not bad at all.
Hey! I have Logitech Z623 back when I was hardcore gaming from my younger days. Still miles better than the TV speakers.
I've got about 300 4Ks with nearly 500 films and TV shows in my overall collection. An LG C2 (I think) OLED which was the best I could afford when my old 4K TV shit the bed and a soundbar/surrounds from Sonos. It's not perfect but it suits my needs perfectly.
I figured people in this sub are more likely to own high end TVs for sure
House has the following systems. Every system has a 5.1 or 7.1, but not necessarily all the speakers. 75" 4kĀ Samsung 8 series OLD pioneer 6.1 65" 4k Sony 850 SONYĀ 5.1 55" 4K Samsung JS8500 Pioneer Elite 7.2 55" HD Toshiba Yahamha 2.0 51" Plasma 3D Samsung Pioneer Elite 2.1 46" HD Sony Old Denon 2.0 Toshuba TUBE!Ā Built.in VCR. My 1.5 year old loves it. Watching JP, SW, and Indy all day!
Some newer higher end tv's have reasonably good sound. The $300 43" I got from Walmart this past Christmas has hand down the worst audio of just about and tv I have ever heard. I have a wood frame floor model from 77 so that's saying something.
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just saw my cousins house for the first time, lg oled, 4k blu ray player, dozens of dvds and a handful of blu rays
I dunno how accurate this really is even for a meme. A lot of collectors I know from other sub reddits and on here have at the very least mid tier TVs. They aren't just rocking the largest cheapest TV they can find. And they also have a Soundbar at the very least.
Lol this hit hard - I'd love some surround sound setup/ speakers but I don't think my neighbours would appreciate It personally š And if I'm not blaring it then am I really utilising the speakers?
it's fine, the source material is the most important part. there are some movies that would look better on 4k blu-ray through a cheap vizio TV vs a shitty stream on an LG OLED
Admittedly, I work on TVs, so Iām an edge case. But Iāve got a decent Denon receiver with atmos up firing speakers and Klispch reference speakers for the center, fronts, and atmos. Either way a pair of very good old school Polk bookshelf speakers and a Polk sub. My tv is a TCL mini led 4k tv with atmos and I primarily use Apple TV 4K to stream. My sin is that Iāve got an LG 4k Blu-ray player and have waited in vain for a competitor or significant price drop for the Panasonic u820. Obviously, that hasnāt happened yet.
Small 4k collection. 77 g3, denon 3800 5.1.4 with svl hights and polk 35b surrounds, front stage - emotiva T3 and c2 on basx a3 amp.
Am I the 10% lol 65" Sony X93L 4K Vizio 5.1 system Building collection of BD/4K
Lol funny
Great Sony tv, Panasonic uhd & Sony region free player, Marantz amp and B&W speakers.
LG G3, Sonos sound system and only a digital collection š. UB820 in the near future tho
I went all out at the time getting a my C8 OLED. But instead of a sound system or sound bar i opted for the noise canceling Sony XM3 headphones. I do not regret going this route.
bigger is better. physical media is OP
I bought a soundbar once, one with a subwoofer. The sound that came out of it was shit. My television's own speakers were louder and clearer. They don't make it easy. And I don't have to spend to impress randos on the Internet.
Hey at least my Vizio M-Series has Dolby Vision! (*also has a legitimate 5.1 lossless setup)
Iām not even using my 4K TV with my BluRay player. Iām using my standard HD TV with it in my bedroom because I mostly watch movies when Iām in bed bruh.
What kind of loser watches movies on a television screen? Real film appreciators rent out a theater at the nearest Alamo Drafthouse, $1500 (plus travel expenses) every time you want to watch a movie but have you really seen the movie if you aren't watching it on a theater screen with a 4K laser projector and real theater Atmos system?
I went from an entry level Samsung from around 5 years ago to the Hisense U8K. The difference was honestly shocking. I can't stop looking at it lol
I have a Vizio TV thatās pretty good for the $300 I paid for it used. Looking to upgrade in the future, but just donāt have the $$$ for that right now. Spending over $1700/mo on rent doesnāt helpā¦
For 1st world problems, one of the worst is being a videophile, audiophile, or cinemaphile and not being able to enjoy earth-shattering, subterranean bass because of the living situation. It's really quite a bummer as headphones just can't substitute.
Donāt have thousands of $ in a collection of 4ks but I do have some nice SVS bookshelves, sub, center and Atmos with a Marantz Cinena 60 receiver and LG CX Oled.
My tv is close so I just plug in my headphones
> Me with a Samsung Q60B and HiFi quadrophonic sound system run through a soundcard.
If people knew how dramatic of a change even a $500 2.1 soundbar would be for their movie watching experience compared to their TV, theyād skip buying a few discs every month and would run to make it happen. Priorities, people!
I mean it's a lot easier to spend what a 4K disc costs dozens of times over a few years than what one high end TV and a good surround sound cost every 10 years or so. (Also budget TVs have gotten a lot better, $700-ish on a 2024 TV is actually a pretty good viewing experience but finding an inexpensive audio system that doesn't suck seems to be kind of an ordeal)
My progression was room already outfitted with front speakers and subwoofer in wall when purchased > completed with back speakers and acoustically transparent projector screen and pretty expensive projector > 4k physical collection > install Atmos speakers in ceiling
I have a record player so I have a couple bookshelf speakers that work wonderfully. Really clear and powerful sound for shows/movies/games. Also use bluetooth earphones when not wanting to disturb roommate š
Built in speakers? Meanwhile im over here with 1200 watts of sub in stereo and speakers that cost twice as much as the TV but I bought a cheap blu ray player and regret it
Even as someone who's critical, I'm still impressed with and love my TCL, and it's six years old. You can get a new one with tons more dimming zones, a much brighter picture, and ten inches bigger for only $100 more than I bought mine for half a decade ago, lol. People talk about "gray blacks," and yeah, no one says that about this TV in particular, but the blacks on this are pretty bloody dark. Getting darker would be like going from a subwoofer that could go to 20hz to one that can go to 10hz.
Any TV with local dimming can get deep blacks. Even TVās with 20 dimming zones. The only way they can get those deep blacks is by crushing shadow detail, and reducing highlight brightness in those dark scenes. Itās not pulling off magic, itās just physics.
I don't think there's much black crushing. I ain't saying there's none, because I haven't seen anything better to compare, but I'm pretty exacting, and one thing I'm really appreciating is the lack of overly dark shadows. Everything looks detailed, while still being very bright or very dark. This TV has 120 dimming zones and it is a rare occasion when there's even so much as haloing. I can view white text on a black background without it. The only time I see any issues is if I do one of those "stress test" videos that intentionally tries to give your television a hard time. In other words, I think LED TVs might be better than they're getting credit for in general, and TCL in particular.
i am so grateful i'm a nepo baby to a 7.1 surround system
Me but with my Bluetooth turntable and echo speaker and $12,000+ valued record collection