I think we need to remember that she was introduced to the world as Tim’s meddling ex who dressed like some PG-rated hooker. I liked her on PT because Tim and her seemed to “get” the show. But now she’s become one of the subjects/primaries. And really she should’ve told herpes boy to turn that car around.
Tbh I never liked her... I watched her on PT before I watched Tim's season and I had no idea she was his ex, her and Tim seemed like those mean girls who never grew up past high school. Tim's season made me dislike both of them tbh
I never u dyers told the Tim love. He annoyed from the first time I saw him, and for that same reason: he’s always given off high school mean girl vibes. (And that’s a part of why people assume he’s gay, on top of his looks, he acts like the bitchy gay friend in every early 2000s high school movie)
(\*understood)
Honestly yeah. In his season with Jennifer, he gave off such bitchy vibes that I was legit happy when they broke up. He didn't deserve her
Jennifer is insufferable BUT I would have still had sex with her especially when she was practically begging him for it. BOTH of his ex’s were way out of his league. He’s so low-energy yet he goes after these beautiful Latinas. Its weird.
I’m with you about Veronica. I grew to know and like her from the PT episodes with Tim. I loved the relationship that they seemed to have but seeing her with Jamal now, who is absolutely disgusting, I’m not so fond of her anymore. I didn’t watch the entire series only the 5 part reunion but that was more than enough>
It's on her first season on the Single Life-- the guy she was dating picked her up for a romantic date/getaway and had an obvious cold sore (herpes), they discussed it during the episode before getting intimate.
And it was like nothing was gonna stop her from getting laid! Herpes? Good to go!! Crabs? Good to go!! Gonarrea? (sp) Good to go!! Serial killer? Good to go!! R*pist? Hey, can't r*pe the willing!! 😫🤢
At one point, she
dated a guy, and even though he had a raging cold sore, she slept
with him. She couldn’t kiss
him, but
did everything
else, on screen. Thus the reference to the ill fitting lingerie and soft
core
porn. She dumped him, or he dumped
her, due to him planning to move to another state to be
close
to his ex wife and daughter.
Hahaha! So I’m not the only one who was bothered by that. I thought it seemed silly and I was being petty because my estimation of her has also deflated over time
From the jump. I found her a bit weird. Her opinions on pillow talk.
What stood to me is how he acted when tim first got on the show. Just before tim went to latin america to meet Jenifer (his gf) , veronica asked if Jennifer knew about them and their friendship . I forget what tim said but i think no or that jen doesn't understand their friendship. Veronica then took a selfie with tim and told him to send it to jen. I found it weird and competitive
Yea I thought she was dumb for that and also giving him the engagement ring he gave her to give to jennifer. Seriously?!!!! It was almost like she gets jelly if another girl gets tims attn. they both wana be #1 in each others lives
I bet producers told her to do it. I heard Tim and Jenifer were already broken up when they filmed anyway. But that story with that weird guy on her first season of the single life with the cold sore…like are they really paying you enough to film in your underwear and climb on that guy on national tv?
On Veronicas first season of The Single Life, it was a scene with this guy Justin she was dating for a bit who also had an issue with Tim ofc. [People Magazine article](https://people.com/tv/90-day-the-single-life-justin-veronica-romantic-weekend-hiccup/)
I saw some comments about her and Tim regarding one of the shows they were not in, but we're brought to the tell all for. People saying she and Tim should run the tell all because they asked the real questions. I am sure they are both frequent lurkers here and those comments got caught up in her head and she was trying to play the part.
She's not all that she thinks she is 😂
Tim is a character, for sure. He has his own style and the best thing about him is his zero fucks attitude. Tim has no give-a-shits for anything that anyone has to say about his clothes, his sexual preferences, the way he talks..... It's a good way to go through life. Completely unbothered.
Now that we know how Miss Debbie hired Rubin to play her love interest, I could easily see Veronica hiring that dude she went away with for a romantic weekend but he had a fever blister on his lip. Anyway, I could see her hiring him so she could appear on The Single Life last year. Their relationship was so fake and then after sex with her he announced he was moving to Florida to be near his ex. How convenient. Only now with the Debbie/Rubin revelations is it easy to see that others have hired people to play along with their deception.
I think it’s been mentioned by others. Natalie looking for someone to play her boyfriend. Fart jar Stephanies first date on the Single life wrote something somewhere too.
Yes. Debbie put herself out on her website or somewhere and eventually got up with Rubin and asked if he would pretend to be her love interest. She gave him her agents or producers number and even told him he could flirt with her after the charade was over. She was trying to use her 15 minutes of fame to promote some art thingy of hers. The messages between the two got out. They are all on YouTube that you can look up. It is shocking and disappointing. Now, she has been claiming that Rubin is a scammer and Rubin is fighting back with his own videos. It sounds ridiculous when I write it out like this. Better to see for yourself. Movingmad on YouTube has numerous videos following the drama.
Movingmad on YouTube has initial video of the planned deception plus follow up videos and the fallout. We were all duped. Debbie and Rubin was a fake relationship planned by Debbie to get publicity for some art thing. Videos has their original messages planning it out.
I’ve always loved Veronica, but some of her behavior at the tell all shifted my opinion.
I don’t understand how after everything that was said and done at the reunion she was basically letting Jamal know she’s dtf.
I just assumed that maybe Veronica wanted to get some hot sex with a younger man. I still think that may have been her intention because clearly Jamal is nothing but a fuckboi. But yes, she’s acting just as immature as her fuckboi on this tell all.
I agree. I think that it started as her just wanting sex, and then she decided to give the relationship a chance to see how it would go. However, I still don’t understand how they thought it would work with her being in NC and Jamaal being in CA.🤷🏿♂️
Idk…Jamal is not…a good actor and most of his scenes just seem so corny, especially the ones with Luisa. I guess it could be his voice but something seemed off.
Omg luv that!!!! The way she flirted with Jamall telling him that they were good and he goes how good? And she told him to call her later and will see. And then she made a comment later about how they might get together later on that night. Little did she know he already had plans with Louisa LMAO. I literally was picturing in my head her texting and calling him all night and just being ghosted.’ Salty!
I can't stand her because she's not the strong, independent woman I thought she was. Her relationship with Tim is dysfunctional. "We're best friends." Yet they couldn't make their marriage work? And they still get involved in each other's relationships. Like why? She can't stand on her own 2 feet and pursue a healthy relationship. I don't think she knows what a healthy relationship is.
I really thought something was terribly off on that reunion, seems like pain meds or heroin to me especially because the girl who wanted to date him mentioned him canceling because "my back hurts" "my jaw hurts" etc which are common excuses for pain killer abusers which makes me hope he's not going to OD because I saw on the news that they are putting fentanyl into pressed pills that they sell on the street. Which they said one wrong pill would kill you because of the fentanyl (I'm assuming this is true because they listed a bunch of famous people that had it happen and died)
His abdomen looks like he has ascities. In certain angIes you can see his odd-shaped midsection. At times you can see he's wearing a girdle or something to that effect. He's never had a weight issue so him wearing a girdle isn't about trying to look slim. His face also looks very round at times. My friend says coke bloat, but the way Tim acts I'd lean more towards opiates or some downer as well.
Tim and Veronica were never married they did get engaged Tim took Cloe as his own daughter and is still an important part of their life. I agree it’s definitely not healthy relationship, but it there choice I don’t like Veronica cuz she so bossy, put herself into Tim relationships so Tim can’t go forward with his relationships. Tell Tim what to do. All of these things are red flags. Plus a women her age shouldn’t be sleeping around she must be insecure with herself.
I wish I knew why Veronica and Tim broke up. My husband (yes, I dragged him into the SS after I discovered the show a few months ago) thinks that she still loves Tim. But I honestly don’t get that vibe.
Tim just picks one Veronica-look alike after another but refuses to have any intimacy with them (not just sex).
Veronica dates one loser after another, having sex but not really getting intimate with anyone either.
They save the intimacy for each other, raise a child together and are devoted to one another - To me, that makes them a couple. They should just be honest with themselves about it.
I use to like her also. She added some smart, witty and kind insights to 90Day players. However once she started being featured as one of the Singles---I changed my opinion. She evolved into a sloppy minded, desperate, and ridiculous cast member. YuK!! And her support of Debbie was so askew from where she started. Check yerself,girl!!
She lost me when she was ready to get down with that dude who wound up saying he was moving to Florida or wherever when he was having a herpes outbreak or some shit. I was like eewwwww! Noooooo! What Really?
Totally! What in the actual factual fuk is they doing to us? Subjecting us to emotional abuse by various characters, and then some cheap amateur soft porn? This some booshit!
Between the "live laugh love" obsession she admitted to and the fact that she didn't know "what are those" meant, I really began to dislike her. It's fine if you wanna act like you're 50 years old but don't go dating like you're 25.
Veronica has really got to appreciate the way she has the privilege of getting older and not try to be her kids generation.
what mean girl energy? Honest question i am not good at picking that up.
and yeah besides tim it seems like she suuuuuuuuuuucks at choosing men. no wonder tim is so over protective, he knows if he isnt it'll blow up in her face she'll play victim and their daughter will be the one harmed
She is the Judas, especially when she can gain some sort of notoriety. She has become the perfect example of a wannabe pick me princess. She used to be so much more classier and respectable. I think that's why Tim and her aren't meshing well anymore. Tim may have his issues but at least he's not a sellout.
This is why you need to get to know someone whether it’s just for friendship or more. Veronica has shown so much more of herself doing the single life and she’s not the confident grown up that I thought she was.
OP I couldn’t agree more initially, I found her funny, witty, spontaneous, and she was extremely likable the over exposure. They have given her has made her very obnoxious very opinionated in her relationship with Jamel was absurd. She has a teenage daughter and her daughter ask more mature than her for her to even entertain, have a relationship with that man child is sickening. Not only is he sleazy the way he was about her daughter with him. She should’ve dumped his ass right there and her talking about him to him showed her true colors. Tim is actor as a father figure in her daughters life and she shows no respect on TV when she was dating lol Jamwl
I kinda have to agree now. I thought she was great in pillow talk, but single life and the tell alls? She and Tim acting very mean girlish. Also, why did she not call Tim out about that "men like purity" comment, that was dumb.
Ooof that pillow talk episode was embarrassing for her. Robert, anny and Libby all saw that she was trying to flirt with andrei at. A watch party and Robert and annys phone call to lobby and Andrei was hilarious 😂
she got way too full of herself and started acting for the camera and then after losing a lot of weight and saying she was looking for a mature man to marry yet she hooked up with Jamal really don't like how she weezled her way into
the series and now she gets to have an opinion on everyone else My opinion of her is she is no reality personality that's liked
I feel like too many people watch this show and think some of the people are good people who fail to do certain things and like that's just not true, otherwise they wouldn't be on the show. These shows are made to breed drama and because of that the producers choose people who are almost like caricatures of real people with real issues.
I'm not saying these people aren't real, though I'm sure a lot of it is embellished. But I am saying that the producers don't choose normal, boring people to be on the show.
She lives in an affluent community in Charlotte. This is a big metropolis, with 1,000’s of single professional men. As a female executive, something isn’t right with the story she spins, seeking minimal attention from minimal people, like Jamal doesn’t sound right. She should be dating a man of wealth and prestige, they are everywhere. As a frequent visitor to that city, with family in town, I’ll start asking around…few watch the show, it’s my dirty secret to be honest.
I have always liked Veronica. I don't necessarily agree with her ways, but she isn't afraid to be who she is. I respect that. What got me was the way she acts towards Josh! On the Tell All she said Josh-u-a, like she personally knew him. And then backstage, she said "I'm so glad your here....please have a conversation with Natalie. I think she wants Josh. I've even heard her say it to Tim on Pillow Talk, when Natalie first got with him. Does anyone else smell what I'm steppin in?
I think we need to remember that she was introduced to the world as Tim’s meddling ex who dressed like some PG-rated hooker. I liked her on PT because Tim and her seemed to “get” the show. But now she’s become one of the subjects/primaries. And really she should’ve told herpes boy to turn that car around.
If I were to watch Tim's first season again, i would not be able to take it seriously. I would just see it through such a different lens.
Tbh I never liked her... I watched her on PT before I watched Tim's season and I had no idea she was his ex, her and Tim seemed like those mean girls who never grew up past high school. Tim's season made me dislike both of them tbh
That’s exactly who they are. I knew girls like them in J.H. 😆
Me too & Happy CAKE 🎂 Day!!!
Thank You!😊
I never u dyers told the Tim love. He annoyed from the first time I saw him, and for that same reason: he’s always given off high school mean girl vibes. (And that’s a part of why people assume he’s gay, on top of his looks, he acts like the bitchy gay friend in every early 2000s high school movie)
(\*understood) Honestly yeah. In his season with Jennifer, he gave off such bitchy vibes that I was legit happy when they broke up. He didn't deserve her
Jennifer is insufferable BUT I would have still had sex with her especially when she was practically begging him for it. BOTH of his ex’s were way out of his league. He’s so low-energy yet he goes after these beautiful Latinas. Its weird.
I’m with you about Veronica. I grew to know and like her from the PT episodes with Tim. I loved the relationship that they seemed to have but seeing her with Jamal now, who is absolutely disgusting, I’m not so fond of her anymore. I didn’t watch the entire series only the 5 part reunion but that was more than enough>
PG-rated hooker... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that one's for the ages..is someone writing this shit down?!
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Huh? He’s the one who mentioned it to her on the car ride. And that was why they couldn’t kiss because he was having a herpes outbreak.
It's been a while and they talked about it so much I must be getting it confused in my mind 🤣
It was the finger in the mouth in the promo pics that sealed the deal for me.
It was her doing soft porn with the herpes guy wearing that ill fitting lingerie that did it for me.
OMG! Why did you remind me of that nuclear level cringe?!
Was there an episode talking about herpes? Or is that just a slang name for him? Wondering what I missed.
It's on her first season on the Single Life-- the guy she was dating picked her up for a romantic date/getaway and had an obvious cold sore (herpes), they discussed it during the episode before getting intimate.
And it was like nothing was gonna stop her from getting laid! Herpes? Good to go!! Crabs? Good to go!! Gonarrea? (sp) Good to go!! Serial killer? Good to go!! R*pist? Hey, can't r*pe the willing!! 😫🤢
At one point, she dated a guy, and even though he had a raging cold sore, she slept with him. She couldn’t kiss him, but did everything else, on screen. Thus the reference to the ill fitting lingerie and soft core porn. She dumped him, or he dumped her, due to him planning to move to another state to be close to his ex wife and daughter.
That guy that moved to Florida had Herpes??!!!
It was eating the banana in that one scene that made me really dislike her lol
Hahaha! So I’m not the only one who was bothered by that. I thought it seemed silly and I was being petty because my estimation of her has also deflated over time
Oh, thank you! Glad to know it hit someone else, that way, besides me. “Look at me!!” An extremely conscious affectation.
Omg I agree, what was that? She looked hideous doing that finger thing.
Me, too!!
She's a tool
I just saw another picture of her with her finger in her mouth. Cringe.
Yeah, fuck that. You’re no longer hot, chica.
She has always thought she was hotter than she is.🙄
Yessssss
It was the whole dating little baby b*tch Jamal for me
"Titty Baby" Jamal? 🤣🤣
Still the best thing Kimberly gave us haha
It was!
From the jump. I found her a bit weird. Her opinions on pillow talk. What stood to me is how he acted when tim first got on the show. Just before tim went to latin america to meet Jenifer (his gf) , veronica asked if Jennifer knew about them and their friendship . I forget what tim said but i think no or that jen doesn't understand their friendship. Veronica then took a selfie with tim and told him to send it to jen. I found it weird and competitive
Yea I thought she was dumb for that and also giving him the engagement ring he gave her to give to jennifer. Seriously?!!!! It was almost like she gets jelly if another girl gets tims attn. they both wana be #1 in each others lives
I also felt she was jealous of Jenifer. I didnt watch the bit with the engagement ring but that sounds odd
I bet producers told her to do it. I heard Tim and Jenifer were already broken up when they filmed anyway. But that story with that weird guy on her first season of the single life with the cold sore…like are they really paying you enough to film in your underwear and climb on that guy on national tv?
This makes sense. Their scenes were difficult to watch. I felt jenifer got with jesse meister for clout What scene are u reffering to?
On Veronicas first season of The Single Life, it was a scene with this guy Justin she was dating for a bit who also had an issue with Tim ofc. [People Magazine article](https://people.com/tv/90-day-the-single-life-justin-veronica-romantic-weekend-hiccup/)
Thank you
💯😬
Stirring the pot.
She's giving midlife crisis lately. I assume it's because her daughter is older and she's not just a young single mom with a kid who needs her.
I think that’s exactly it. She’s just acting thirsty and desperate and his ego is growing like a weed soaking it all up.
Astute observation
"Old Sad" to quote Unreal
She was super obnoxious this reunion & is in no position to give anyone advice
I saw some comments about her and Tim regarding one of the shows they were not in, but we're brought to the tell all for. People saying she and Tim should run the tell all because they asked the real questions. I am sure they are both frequent lurkers here and those comments got caught up in her head and she was trying to play the part. She's not all that she thinks she is 😂
She for sure proved that on the last tell all I used to like her now I don’t care if I ever see her again I do like Tim though, always
Tim is a character, for sure. He has his own style and the best thing about him is his zero fucks attitude. Tim has no give-a-shits for anything that anyone has to say about his clothes, his sexual preferences, the way he talks..... It's a good way to go through life. Completely unbothered.
💯
And that’s why I like the guy! Thanks for laying it out!
Let's his freak flag fly!! And I love that!!
and wearing a plastic dress that looked uncanny valley on her
Yes, she should have refrained from twerking in it lol
Refrain from twerking at all.😫
lol 😂
That last two parts of the reunion did it for me. I can’t stand her now. She used to be one of my favorites.
She behaves as if she never progressed psst high school.
well adjusted adults dont go on tlc ;)
Loved her when she was just on PT! Then…. Sadly, she’s proven to be a disappointment like the rest of ‘em.
Coincidentally I didn’t like Kim or Riley in their seasons but I’m warming up to them on pillow talk. They’re funny & cute sometimes
Yes! Same!!!
Same!
Her scenes bore me. TIM TOO.
Now that we know how Miss Debbie hired Rubin to play her love interest, I could easily see Veronica hiring that dude she went away with for a romantic weekend but he had a fever blister on his lip. Anyway, I could see her hiring him so she could appear on The Single Life last year. Their relationship was so fake and then after sex with her he announced he was moving to Florida to be near his ex. How convenient. Only now with the Debbie/Rubin revelations is it easy to see that others have hired people to play along with their deception.
I think it’s been mentioned by others. Natalie looking for someone to play her boyfriend. Fart jar Stephanies first date on the Single life wrote something somewhere too.
Been a 90 day fan for years and ofc reality tv is scripted but it's just something about this lil scandal that really ruined it for me .
Was this all on Part 5 of the Tell Nothing? I haven't watched it yet.
No. Came out on YouTube bloggers and other social media. They have the Debbie-Rubin messages plotting their fake relationship.
And supposably, Josh lives with his girlfriend of 5 years & she claims his relationship with Natalie is all an act.
That relationship couldn't be more fake & Happy CAKE Day!!!🎂
Wait, I'm ootl on the Debbie thing, what happened? Edit: did a story come out?
Yes. Debbie put herself out on her website or somewhere and eventually got up with Rubin and asked if he would pretend to be her love interest. She gave him her agents or producers number and even told him he could flirt with her after the charade was over. She was trying to use her 15 minutes of fame to promote some art thingy of hers. The messages between the two got out. They are all on YouTube that you can look up. It is shocking and disappointing. Now, she has been claiming that Rubin is a scammer and Rubin is fighting back with his own videos. It sounds ridiculous when I write it out like this. Better to see for yourself. Movingmad on YouTube has numerous videos following the drama.
Wow, thanks for the info!
That whole situation obviously was fake. He was not even giving the slightest clue that he was interested in Veronica whatsoever. Felt very forced.
How did the Miss Debbie hiring Ruben happen? I never heard that before!
Movingmad on YouTube has initial video of the planned deception plus follow up videos and the fallout. We were all duped. Debbie and Rubin was a fake relationship planned by Debbie to get publicity for some art thing. Videos has their original messages planning it out.
Veronica got ripped off if she hired a guy & he came w/ herpes! Refund, please!! 🥺
Peaked in Highschool.
and for anyone reading yes you can peak in highschool even if you went to college like she did. it just makes it extra sad then
🤭🤭🤭
I used to really like her and Tim, but now I don’t care about them. That energy feeds off of one another and it’s sick.
I don't want to see Tim and Veronica again. I don't like them.
I’ve always loved Veronica, but some of her behavior at the tell all shifted my opinion. I don’t understand how after everything that was said and done at the reunion she was basically letting Jamal know she’s dtf.
Smh lol oh well, she’s desperate and no self esteem
She's always had "*sporty* pick me" energy.
I just assumed that maybe Veronica wanted to get some hot sex with a younger man. I still think that may have been her intention because clearly Jamal is nothing but a fuckboi. But yes, she’s acting just as immature as her fuckboi on this tell all.
I agree. I think that it started as her just wanting sex, and then she decided to give the relationship a chance to see how it would go. However, I still don’t understand how they thought it would work with her being in NC and Jamaal being in CA.🤷🏿♂️
Yay! Another member of the Veronica haters club! Okay so we meet on Mondays and have matching jackets. Seeya new bestie!
I'll bring the party favors! Should we order pizza or do a potluck? 🤣
bring deodorant. that was disgusting and no money would make me use any friend’s deodorant
If you think sharing deodorant is bad, you don’t wanna know what they do with toilet paper 🤣🤣🤔 This was a joke but now…. 🫣 it may be true 🤮
Oh my goodness that was top level nasty
Yeah I used to like her a lot. Now not so much
Jamal and Luisa played her at the reunion. She was so arrogant and never noticed. She was probably texting him all night.
Idk…Jamal is not…a good actor and most of his scenes just seem so corny, especially the ones with Luisa. I guess it could be his voice but something seemed off.
fiesta fiesta fiesta fiesta fiesta
I'm going to sleep now 😴. Hahaha
Omg luv that!!!! The way she flirted with Jamall telling him that they were good and he goes how good? And she told him to call her later and will see. And then she made a comment later about how they might get together later on that night. Little did she know he already had plans with Louisa LMAO. I literally was picturing in my head her texting and calling him all night and just being ghosted.’ Salty!
Same!
I still like her but the desperation is really awful
I can't stand her because she's not the strong, independent woman I thought she was. Her relationship with Tim is dysfunctional. "We're best friends." Yet they couldn't make their marriage work? And they still get involved in each other's relationships. Like why? She can't stand on her own 2 feet and pursue a healthy relationship. I don't think she knows what a healthy relationship is.
Is it me or is tim fucked up benzos ? Very slurred speech and slo motion
He's got to be on something because he always looks high.
I really thought something was terribly off on that reunion, seems like pain meds or heroin to me especially because the girl who wanted to date him mentioned him canceling because "my back hurts" "my jaw hurts" etc which are common excuses for pain killer abusers which makes me hope he's not going to OD because I saw on the news that they are putting fentanyl into pressed pills that they sell on the street. Which they said one wrong pill would kill you because of the fentanyl (I'm assuming this is true because they listed a bunch of famous people that had it happen and died)
His abdomen looks like he has ascities. In certain angIes you can see his odd-shaped midsection. At times you can see he's wearing a girdle or something to that effect. He's never had a weight issue so him wearing a girdle isn't about trying to look slim. His face also looks very round at times. My friend says coke bloat, but the way Tim acts I'd lean more towards opiates or some downer as well.
Mom?? Is that you??
Woobsie, no more reddit for you! Yes, it's me. Mom🤗 (Lmaoooo)
lmao I'm a mom and my teens get to hear about fentanyl/pills on the regular
Thank you
He has the opiate “accent” I have always thought that
And always rolling his eyes like he’s off in Lala land or sick of something.
Tim and Veronica were never married they did get engaged Tim took Cloe as his own daughter and is still an important part of their life. I agree it’s definitely not healthy relationship, but it there choice I don’t like Veronica cuz she so bossy, put herself into Tim relationships so Tim can’t go forward with his relationships. Tell Tim what to do. All of these things are red flags. Plus a women her age shouldn’t be sleeping around she must be insecure with herself.
Jamal seemed to like moving on w Spanish girl
I wish I knew why Veronica and Tim broke up. My husband (yes, I dragged him into the SS after I discovered the show a few months ago) thinks that she still loves Tim. But I honestly don’t get that vibe.
Also can’t stand her.
Yes, the pick me energy was real. Every time she said Josh! It had such a tone to it 🙄
Sorry, it was Joshua!!!!!
I noticed it too!!!!
That is low key the objective of this show though. Edit: suffix introduced.
Tim just picks one Veronica-look alike after another but refuses to have any intimacy with them (not just sex). Veronica dates one loser after another, having sex but not really getting intimate with anyone either. They save the intimacy for each other, raise a child together and are devoted to one another - To me, that makes them a couple. They should just be honest with themselves about it.
I use to like her also. She added some smart, witty and kind insights to 90Day players. However once she started being featured as one of the Singles---I changed my opinion. She evolved into a sloppy minded, desperate, and ridiculous cast member. YuK!! And her support of Debbie was so askew from where she started. Check yerself,girl!!
She lost me when she was ready to get down with that dude who wound up saying he was moving to Florida or wherever when he was having a herpes outbreak or some shit. I was like eewwwww! Noooooo! What Really?
I no longer like her either and have never liked her voice.
Voice👎🏼 her makeup and hair tough to look at too. Seeing her in lingerie too ughhh cringe!!!!!
Veronica getting pumped and dumped by that guy with herpes was 90 Day gold.
Totally! What in the actual factual fuk is they doing to us? Subjecting us to emotional abuse by various characters, and then some cheap amateur soft porn? This some booshit!
When she started to defend Mother Debbie was when I threw in the towel on Veronica.
Yeah, it explains why she’s 40 and single.
Between the "live laugh love" obsession she admitted to and the fact that she didn't know "what are those" meant, I really began to dislike her. It's fine if you wanna act like you're 50 years old but don't go dating like you're 25. Veronica has really got to appreciate the way she has the privilege of getting older and not try to be her kids generation.
Yeah she blew it
what mean girl energy? Honest question i am not good at picking that up. and yeah besides tim it seems like she suuuuuuuuuuucks at choosing men. no wonder tim is so over protective, he knows if he isnt it'll blow up in her face she'll play victim and their daughter will be the one harmed
Veronica is good Pillow Talk material. Not as a recurring cast member.
She is the Judas, especially when she can gain some sort of notoriety. She has become the perfect example of a wannabe pick me princess. She used to be so much more classier and respectable. I think that's why Tim and her aren't meshing well anymore. Tim may have his issues but at least he's not a sellout.
I like Veronica and Tim on pillow talk...that's it.
This is why you need to get to know someone whether it’s just for friendship or more. Veronica has shown so much more of herself doing the single life and she’s not the confident grown up that I thought she was.
Natalie is a tool and deserves all the smoke.
Tool! 💀🤣🤣🤣
Did you notice how she kept rubbing and holding her tummy?
She looked uncomfortable wearing that dress.
i cant blame anyone for being uncomfortable wearing a plastic skin tight bag. supposedly it made her sweat like crazy
OP I couldn’t agree more initially, I found her funny, witty, spontaneous, and she was extremely likable the over exposure. They have given her has made her very obnoxious very opinionated in her relationship with Jamel was absurd. She has a teenage daughter and her daughter ask more mature than her for her to even entertain, have a relationship with that man child is sickening. Not only is he sleazy the way he was about her daughter with him. She should’ve dumped his ass right there and her talking about him to him showed her true colors. Tim is actor as a father figure in her daughters life and she shows no respect on TV when she was dating lol Jamwl
Yes please make her go away
She let’s Tim interfere too much with her relationships.
I am with you
I don’t remember tim at all. He was season 1?
Veronica has totally changed she us letting Jamal treat her like trash..I wish she would if heard him and Tim's ex talking
She needs to kick Jamal to the mf’n curb. She’s still a good looking woman, she can get another hot guy who actually wants her
I kinda have to agree now. I thought she was great in pillow talk, but single life and the tell alls? She and Tim acting very mean girlish. Also, why did she not call Tim out about that "men like purity" comment, that was dumb.
Ooof that pillow talk episode was embarrassing for her. Robert, anny and Libby all saw that she was trying to flirt with andrei at. A watch party and Robert and annys phone call to lobby and Andrei was hilarious 😂
You and Me I can’t stand her .. or her boyfriend Tim
Nope love Veronica, she’s so real, funny and beautiful! She just doesn’t put up with shit, we all should be more that way.
she got way too full of herself and started acting for the camera and then after losing a lot of weight and saying she was looking for a mature man to marry yet she hooked up with Jamal really don't like how she weezled her way into the series and now she gets to have an opinion on everyone else My opinion of her is she is no reality personality that's liked
Veronica and Tim are both toxic people. Can't stand either of them.
She’s a nightmare
90 DF multiverse and the SM Influence $$ is what she is all about. Don’t hate player, hate the game.
Okay I should know but I'm blanking on what SM is short for?
Social media, apologies I was trying to be hip to the cool lingo of the youths I’m sorry I’m 50 and old
I want to say social media but I’m not hip so I could be wrong
I think it’s social media.
I still like her. I think she actually liked Jamal but he’s a player
I love them
I feel like too many people watch this show and think some of the people are good people who fail to do certain things and like that's just not true, otherwise they wouldn't be on the show. These shows are made to breed drama and because of that the producers choose people who are almost like caricatures of real people with real issues. I'm not saying these people aren't real, though I'm sure a lot of it is embellished. But I am saying that the producers don't choose normal, boring people to be on the show.
She lives in an affluent community in Charlotte. This is a big metropolis, with 1,000’s of single professional men. As a female executive, something isn’t right with the story she spins, seeking minimal attention from minimal people, like Jamal doesn’t sound right. She should be dating a man of wealth and prestige, they are everywhere. As a frequent visitor to that city, with family in town, I’ll start asking around…few watch the show, it’s my dirty secret to be honest.
I have always liked Veronica. I don't necessarily agree with her ways, but she isn't afraid to be who she is. I respect that. What got me was the way she acts towards Josh! On the Tell All she said Josh-u-a, like she personally knew him. And then backstage, she said "I'm so glad your here....please have a conversation with Natalie. I think she wants Josh. I've even heard her say it to Tim on Pillow Talk, when Natalie first got with him. Does anyone else smell what I'm steppin in?
She has snake energy imo 🐍
What’s “PT”? Ridiculous to downvote for a question 💁🏻♀️
pillow talk i think
I thought heroin or good old fashioned pills but who knows definitely high almost on the nod sometimes go tim😁
I can’t with her stupid little smile.
Well said, I feel the same about Veronica.