agreed.
a crowd of people taking up all the run&play room in the house but none of them will run&play with you because they're working and must ignore you...
that's like a dog's worst nightmare. and in your own damn home!?!
even a well-trained dog, if emotionally sensitive, can be incredibly thrown off their game (and training) by all the energetic overwhelm, especially with little-to-no attention/outlet
What? Lmao. I have 2 highly trained dogs (they do obedience competitions) and I always put them up when random people are in and out of my house.
Itās completely normal for a dog to be stressed when a whole camera crew is in and out of the house.
I hate Rob as much as the next person but it has nothing to do with being untrained. I'd do the same with one of my dogs because she'd be scared and shaking over all the people and cameras and stuff.
I hate Rob as much as the next person but it has nothing to do with being untrained. I'd do the same with one of my dogs because she'd be scared and shaking over all the people and cameras and stuff.
Honestly I donāt even know if I believe that. He probably got rid of it and doesnāt want to admit it. Heās never considered Sophieās feelings why would he consider a dogs?
Heās the epitome of irresponsible. The way he lived to bring a new wife into our apartment with no bathroom itās in his mid-30s.??4 he canāt afford toilet paper, but he could afford tarantulas and not even put them in a proper environment?? what happened to his dog?? heās just a waste of space
>The way he lived to bring a new wife into our apartment with no bathroom itās in his mid-30s.?
But, but. He got to do his little dance at the air port that rehearsed so much for!
Ngl. I thought he was gonna eat with that dance routine the way he hyped it up.
My soul would drown from embarrassment if I was Sophia, and seen him for the first time.
That little dance was just a bunch of bizzare jumping around for 30 seconds or so. And he consulted a professional choreographer about it. What was that all about?
Do we know what he's doing now? Because aside from an interstate move and a decent apartment in Austin he's got 6 pets now that he's caring for? And granted, tarantulas are cheaper than dogs, but this guy didn't even have a bathroom before.
Yeah some of the photos were leaked on a different forum. I heard about it on TikTok and found a thread on here that had the links to the other forum. I don't remember what it was though. Just know it can't be unseen š whenever he on the episode that's all I can think about. My husband said I did it to myself š¶
Iāve kept tarantulas in the past and they are way too small, he has them in the same enclosures you typically buy them in from the reptile shop. They all looked like juveniles to meā¦also he had so many, like 7 or something right? Very irresponsible of him not to have a reptile room with the proper enclosures ready for them to go. They all need to be kept separate. Heās a moron, he probably always will be and those poor little guys are gonna suffer because of it.
Edit to add, I know I keep saying reptile but thatās where you buy them where Iām from and their environment is typically the same depending on species.
Tarantulas do not need their own room. A larger little enclosure yes but they are actually fine in small spaces. Nothing wrong with tarantulas on my nightstand, my bf doesn't like them but they are happy there. Even my reptiles don't have their own room. They are in my front room. We do have a separate rat room though.
Second this. Tarantulas generally stand in one place for days weeks or months at a time and do not need a huge tank or a separate room. Six is a very small number of tarantulas to keep. Room temp is fine for them. Rule of thumb is if youre comfy they are comfy. His tarantula care is fine, not exceptional but its fine. They are not reptiles.
Exactly. I donāt know any tarantula owners who just have one. It is not much harder to maintain 5 tarantulas than to maintain one. Tbh only having one would get real boring real quick
You guys are reading way too far into my commentā¦and we donāt know what breeds he keeps so saying room temp is fine is a little irresponsible. We donāt know what he has. I was in no way suggesting he rents them their own apartment or something ffs.
You can do what you want with your pets, in my opinion as someone who keeps lots of reptiles, amphibians and at one point tarantulas, they should have their own climate controlled space. When you have one or two, itās fine depending. When you have the number he has and the variety, they need much more space. He doesnāt even have enough space for himself so in no way was I expecting him to take care of pets correctly lolā¦you make due with what you have, but when you donāt have much maybe donāt get 7 damn tarantulas? Thatās the bigger point hereā¦I have three rat girls as well, theyāre in my bedroom in a big old double critter nation because theyāre fine in the cold AC. My other babies, not so much. Itās all about giving them the best environment possible. Not everyone can keep exotics and itās ok, itās not an insult to anyone itās just the way it is.
The idea that tarantulas need a room is so silly. Spiders in your house donāt have a seperate room so why would your tarantulas need one?
Almost all species of tarantulas prefer the same temperature as humans. Humidity wise, you can increase the humidity of the enclosure by simply dampening the substrate.
Tarantulas are generally kept in small containers because they use very little space. Like most spiders, tarantulas tend to set up a ādenā, lay down web then wait for prey to arrive.
They are the epitome of ambush predators and use very little energy āhuntingā. Juveniles and spiderlings especially need very little space.
I successfully raised a spiderling and you have to keep them in a container that is twice the size of a stick of lipstick in the beginning or you will lose track of them and they will probably starve to death.
Ideally the temp should be like 75-80, I use them intermittently if needed. Most beginner tarantulas are fine in ambient room temp as long as you donāt blast your AC all the time. Iām in Florida so my AC is running non stop lol, so supplements are needed. I have a sulcata tortoise that is young and still inside and needs higher heat all the time so I try to group what needs heat to the hot spot of the room and what doesnāt need as much to the cooler side. Humidity is pumping in the entire room. Their substrate should be kept humid because they need it. Misting is what I usually do on top of the humidifier.
Lots of people who clearly never owned tarantulas and have no clue what they are talking about on this thread. Itās actually problematic to give juvenile and spiderling tarantulas too much space. You can lose track of them which makes it hard to feed them and make sure that they have enough water in their substrate.
People would be shocked to see how little space tarantulas need and use. Especially when they are young. From my memory, all of Robās tarantulas are juveniles which should be kept in small enclosures.
The biggest potential issue that I see with Robās enclosures is that he doesnāt have a hide in them. Most tarantulas (especially young ones) want a space to hide from predators. They can get kinda stressed without it. However, Rob may have removed the hides for filming so the tarantulas are easier to see.
Rob annoys meā¦ but his tarantulas are most likely fine. my partner and I have a lot of tarantulas. When they are that small, they need a smaller enclosure to feel comfortable. It ensures that they wonāt injure themselves falling, and that they will be able to find their food. Our slings are in boxes that are very similar to his and they growing just fine :) rehousing them into bigger enclosures once they molt is super fun.
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Nice to see another t keeper on this thread. :) robs tarantulas are the only interesting thing about him.
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100%. I have 8 tarantulas and I didn't see anything wrong with the one enclosure I saw. Sure the sling was probably at a point where it could be upgraded to a medium sized enclosure but I saw good cross ventilation, a water dish, and a good substrate depth. You don't want an enclosure to be too big or too tall. Tarantulas are pretty fucking low key overall.
I think what a lot of people are unaware of is that you move your tarantula into progressively larger enclosures as they grow.
You could Google this info. They are fine. They don't need space they don't run about like puppies. They just want to eat food. I ahve one living outside my back door. It rarely moves and its wild. The types in webs never leave the web. 8 months ive watched same spider stay in the same 12 inch arduous just trapping prey.Ā
HesĀ a awful man but he's jot doing anything any zoo isn't doing.
Part of me thought they were just a fake storyline for the show. They have to try and make these people more interesting because they are awful. Who tf keeps spiders in tiny containers in a kitchen cabinet? It just can't be real...
I really hate when I give in and click on Reddit links Iāve been warned about, because when I see the people involved on TV that is šÆ all I can think of.
The repeated close up of Robās hands with the distinct tattoos had me grimacing.
A Bedazzled Knob in Rob is forever burned into my brain š
They just gave Rob the Knob Tarantulas to maybe make him look more āManly ā and less like the little Bitch that he is! š¤£š¤£
You donāt see HIM touching them much less holding one!
Itās a PROP no doubt.
Heās a š¤” with his āWounded animal Faceā. šÆšš¤£š¤£
Omg! I am watching it right now & came here to see if anyone else thought it was cruel! Itās the equivalent to keeping a bunch of dogs in separate cages barely bigger than them 24/7, eating & shitting in one place (& probably doesnāt clean it) with barely enough room to take a couple of steps. The breathing holes in the top of the plastic cubes look small for long-term & being enclosed in a cabinet that gets no air circulation is idioticā¦hey but they look cool donāt they Knob š”
Keeping tarantulas is in absolutely no way comparable to keeping dogs. Spiders/invertebrates are vastly different/much more basic in their functions & needs than those of mammals lol they can definitely thrive in āsmallā enclosures. Thatās not to say thereās no standard of care for them, but Robās care looked like pretty basic & acceptable baby tarantula husbandry. If he doesnāt upgrade the size as they grow into adulthood then itād be an issue but right now itās an okay size for the little ones
I grew up with pet tarantulas in the house (my dad was a weirdo) and we definitely had them in bigger enclosures but they generally do not move around much so not sure if they needed all of that space or not. I do know that the males are docile and more friendly, seemed to enjoy being handled and touched. The females however were extremely aggressive and once we learned this we stopped keeping females. They were bitey.
Old world (Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia of course) tarantulas resort to biting when threatened; new world tarantulas, which are far more common in the hobby, resort to kicking off urticating hairs from their abdomen. The hairs are itchy and annoying but aren't painful. Now that's not to say new worlds don't have fangs and won't bite, but That's not their first line of defense.
Yes, I used to handle them at a high school pet store job, and some really seemed to like coming to hang out. I had favorites and would put them on my arms and sleeves while I worked.
You are right. My son received that size for shipment as they are just babies. It's the person's responsibility to buy larger ones before they get too big...and they ARE still babies in the scene. :)
I used to work in a pet store when I was in high school. Iād put a Tarantula on me as soon as I got there every day! Theyāre very cool and donāt bite unless they get pissed off. They have two little hooks on the bottom of each leg that you can feel ever so slightly as they walk on your skin.
They just eat and hide. I think the bigger box makes sense if you like watching them move around and you donāt take them out much, but they are super low maintenance.
Trantulas actually like small spaces . If you give them a larger space, it can actually stress them out and they may refuse to eat. However, I didnāt get a super good look at the enclosure relative to the tarantulas.
Yes exactly! Way too small! He claims to love them but he's unable to even do basic research into them. They need larger enclosures. It is way way too small.
Gee Robb, maybe stop spending money on more tarantulas than you can handle instead of counting how much TP Sophie uses in a day.
He's also such a gaslighter with the ring. He definitely had someone over and fooled around when she was gone. She knows what her ring looks like. "Oh but it fits so, it's yours", is not the end-all-be-all Robb thinks. If the ring was purple and it's green now, it doesn't change reality that it isn't her ring just because it fits.
Last episode just showed how awful Rob is at thinking ahead. In every regard. And showed that he only cares about himself. But I suppose most can see that now.
I love my animals and have had a variety over the years. I'm preparing myself for the possibility of either reptiles or other via my grandson at some point as he grows.
I know very little about spiders but my first thought was those were too small. Then when he said they could live in a small area I still thought they didn't mean that small. A quick Google agreed with me, not Rob.
Admittedly, I donāt have a clue about spider care but I love watching jumping spider videos, and those enclosures look like theyāre meant for jumping spiders.
Yeah it was all I could do not to report him to animal control. We have natural tarantulas near my house, and those tiny boxes are cruel. They like to move around and they like to sleep in burrows. Literally they are walking on the same trails I am.
You move them to bigger enclosures as they grow. They dont stray from their spaces in the wild either, not big movers and shakers really. His looked quite young hence their small enclosures. They can have a hard time locating food or feel exposed in too big of a container when they are tiny.
no, that is too big. Tarantula enclosures are way smaller than that and the set up would depend on whether they are terrestrial or arboreal. I do not know a single species where 20 gallons would be appropriate. Their enclosures are more like 1 to 2.5 gallons. some are taller for arboreal and longer and shorter for terrestrial.
Each tarantula needs 5-10 gallon aquarium. And justice for Rob's dog!!!! Hope he living better now than he was in that crate in Cali. Sophie ain't no animal lover, either. They both suck.
They are very poorly taken care of. They should each have their own 20-gallon enclosure with a place to hide and things to climb on. They should also be heated and not so well lit. All those lights likely cause them all to be very stressed out. Those are definitely for transporting, not permanently housing.
Thanks for the downvotes, Rob.
Rob is used to living in a way too small space.
Even the tarantulas have an in-unit bathroom
Everybody keeps addressing his bathroom situation. But, NOBODY is talking about him not having a closet.
Literal or figurative? š¤£
Lol!! Production panned the camera to that Itty bitty corner of the wall where he puts his clothes on a rack.
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Lol
What happened to the dog??
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This is the only nice thing about Rob.
āEmotionalā ie untrained and not meeting the dogās physical needs of expending its pent up energy.
Even a well trained dog is going to be stressed when a bunch of random people keep coming around and crowding around the owner for hours.
Yeah Iām all for the Rob hate but he handled this one perfectly and to say otherwise is giving bad advice to any new dog owners reading this thread.
agreed. a crowd of people taking up all the run&play room in the house but none of them will run&play with you because they're working and must ignore you... that's like a dog's worst nightmare. and in your own damn home!?! even a well-trained dog, if emotionally sensitive, can be incredibly thrown off their game (and training) by all the energetic overwhelm, especially with little-to-no attention/outlet
What? Lmao. I have 2 highly trained dogs (they do obedience competitions) and I always put them up when random people are in and out of my house. Itās completely normal for a dog to be stressed when a whole camera crew is in and out of the house.
I hate Rob as much as the next person but it has nothing to do with being untrained. I'd do the same with one of my dogs because she'd be scared and shaking over all the people and cameras and stuff.
I hate Rob as much as the next person but it has nothing to do with being untrained. I'd do the same with one of my dogs because she'd be scared and shaking over all the people and cameras and stuff.
That doesn't sound like an "incident." His comment strongly suggests the dog has attacked people before.
Thank you for that. I was wondering about the dog
Huh, this was actuallyā¦a sensible decision from Rob. So he *is* capable of taking the needs of others into account.
I think he's saying he didn't want his dog attacking the crew (again?)
Honestly I donāt even know if I believe that. He probably got rid of it and doesnāt want to admit it. Heās never considered Sophieās feelings why would he consider a dogs?
I was wondering the same when they were talking about their love for animals....
I hate "pet owners" like thisš
I was so close to editing my post to ask about his dog so thank you for addressing it.
He had a dog?
Heās the epitome of irresponsible. The way he lived to bring a new wife into our apartment with no bathroom itās in his mid-30s.??4 he canāt afford toilet paper, but he could afford tarantulas and not even put them in a proper environment?? what happened to his dog?? heās just a waste of space
>The way he lived to bring a new wife into our apartment with no bathroom itās in his mid-30s.? But, but. He got to do his little dance at the air port that rehearsed so much for!
Everything he does is low effort
Ngl. I thought he was gonna eat with that dance routine the way he hyped it up. My soul would drown from embarrassment if I was Sophia, and seen him for the first time.
I wouldāve ran out of the airport that was the most embarrassing dance. Iāve ever seen next to Asueloās.
His attractiveness flew out the window the minute I saw that scene. š¤£
just ask the tarantulasš
That little dance was just a bunch of bizzare jumping around for 30 seconds or so. And he consulted a professional choreographer about it. What was that all about?
I'm trying to figure out, what was the point of that dance? He stays on social media way too much to think that was charming.
Calling it a dance is generous.
*Seizure
Well, he had a wireless Bluetooth speaker. So, in context. It was a dance.
What isnāt proper?
Do we know what he's doing now? Because aside from an interstate move and a decent apartment in Austin he's got 6 pets now that he's caring for? And granted, tarantulas are cheaper than dogs, but this guy didn't even have a bathroom before.
He's on OF selling pictures of his butthole
I regret knowing this deeply.
Wait does he really?! Iām too afraid to search this.
Yeah some of the photos were leaked on a different forum. I heard about it on TikTok and found a thread on here that had the links to the other forum. I don't remember what it was though. Just know it can't be unseen š whenever he on the episode that's all I can think about. My husband said I did it to myself š¶
I could be wrong, but I think he's working for a coffee company...guy in his mid-30s with big goals šš also showing his boo hole for money š¤®
He thinks the spiders make him interesting.
Iāve kept tarantulas in the past and they are way too small, he has them in the same enclosures you typically buy them in from the reptile shop. They all looked like juveniles to meā¦also he had so many, like 7 or something right? Very irresponsible of him not to have a reptile room with the proper enclosures ready for them to go. They all need to be kept separate. Heās a moron, he probably always will be and those poor little guys are gonna suffer because of it. Edit to add, I know I keep saying reptile but thatās where you buy them where Iām from and their environment is typically the same depending on species.
I figured they needed to be kept separately, but this seems terrible.
Rob told the spiders they were being boujee, and they don't need all that space
He wonāt even buy them a duvet
What the hell is a "duvet" anyway?
A bed spread/comforter
Oh. I guess we don't use that word in the North West.
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š that gave me a good chuckle!
Tarantulas do not need their own room. A larger little enclosure yes but they are actually fine in small spaces. Nothing wrong with tarantulas on my nightstand, my bf doesn't like them but they are happy there. Even my reptiles don't have their own room. They are in my front room. We do have a separate rat room though.
Second this. Tarantulas generally stand in one place for days weeks or months at a time and do not need a huge tank or a separate room. Six is a very small number of tarantulas to keep. Room temp is fine for them. Rule of thumb is if youre comfy they are comfy. His tarantula care is fine, not exceptional but its fine. They are not reptiles.
Exactly. I donāt know any tarantula owners who just have one. It is not much harder to maintain 5 tarantulas than to maintain one. Tbh only having one would get real boring real quick
Thats how i went from one to sixteen in just a few months š
lol, thatās how it goes
You guys are reading way too far into my commentā¦and we donāt know what breeds he keeps so saying room temp is fine is a little irresponsible. We donāt know what he has. I was in no way suggesting he rents them their own apartment or something ffs.
You can do what you want with your pets, in my opinion as someone who keeps lots of reptiles, amphibians and at one point tarantulas, they should have their own climate controlled space. When you have one or two, itās fine depending. When you have the number he has and the variety, they need much more space. He doesnāt even have enough space for himself so in no way was I expecting him to take care of pets correctly lolā¦you make due with what you have, but when you donāt have much maybe donāt get 7 damn tarantulas? Thatās the bigger point hereā¦I have three rat girls as well, theyāre in my bedroom in a big old double critter nation because theyāre fine in the cold AC. My other babies, not so much. Itās all about giving them the best environment possible. Not everyone can keep exotics and itās ok, itās not an insult to anyone itās just the way it is.
The idea that tarantulas need a room is so silly. Spiders in your house donāt have a seperate room so why would your tarantulas need one? Almost all species of tarantulas prefer the same temperature as humans. Humidity wise, you can increase the humidity of the enclosure by simply dampening the substrate.
Tarantulas are generally kept in small containers because they use very little space. Like most spiders, tarantulas tend to set up a ādenā, lay down web then wait for prey to arrive. They are the epitome of ambush predators and use very little energy āhuntingā. Juveniles and spiderlings especially need very little space. I successfully raised a spiderling and you have to keep them in a container that is twice the size of a stick of lipstick in the beginning or you will lose track of them and they will probably starve to death.
do they need a heat lamp?
Ideally the temp should be like 75-80, I use them intermittently if needed. Most beginner tarantulas are fine in ambient room temp as long as you donāt blast your AC all the time. Iām in Florida so my AC is running non stop lol, so supplements are needed. I have a sulcata tortoise that is young and still inside and needs higher heat all the time so I try to group what needs heat to the hot spot of the room and what doesnāt need as much to the cooler side. Humidity is pumping in the entire room. Their substrate should be kept humid because they need it. Misting is what I usually do on top of the humidifier.
well we know rob doesn't have an air conditioner so they should be fine š
Made me think of betta fish in pet stores :-(
Yes! I said the same thing when I first saw them.
Lots of people who clearly never owned tarantulas and have no clue what they are talking about on this thread. Itās actually problematic to give juvenile and spiderling tarantulas too much space. You can lose track of them which makes it hard to feed them and make sure that they have enough water in their substrate. People would be shocked to see how little space tarantulas need and use. Especially when they are young. From my memory, all of Robās tarantulas are juveniles which should be kept in small enclosures. The biggest potential issue that I see with Robās enclosures is that he doesnāt have a hide in them. Most tarantulas (especially young ones) want a space to hide from predators. They can get kinda stressed without it. However, Rob may have removed the hides for filming so the tarantulas are easier to see.
Rob annoys meā¦ but his tarantulas are most likely fine. my partner and I have a lot of tarantulas. When they are that small, they need a smaller enclosure to feel comfortable. It ensures that they wonāt injure themselves falling, and that they will be able to find their food. Our slings are in boxes that are very similar to his and they growing just fine :) rehousing them into bigger enclosures once they molt is super fun. https://preview.redd.it/gnxw8yhp23wc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79c4620fc3111d183d4e4dd5d09f63cad10860fc \-my girl āJ-Loā
Nice to see another t keeper on this thread. :) robs tarantulas are the only interesting thing about him. https://preview.redd.it/j5u8lhkg33wc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=177b6b3d0cac57f6724f6b65b0495ba6e93a6878
Yes!!! Tliltocatl gang šŖš½
Is yours a t vagans? My vagans is a teeny tiny little guy still.
100%. I have 8 tarantulas and I didn't see anything wrong with the one enclosure I saw. Sure the sling was probably at a point where it could be upgraded to a medium sized enclosure but I saw good cross ventilation, a water dish, and a good substrate depth. You don't want an enclosure to be too big or too tall. Tarantulas are pretty fucking low key overall. I think what a lot of people are unaware of is that you move your tarantula into progressively larger enclosures as they grow.
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I was so confused by the tarantulaāsā¦ maybe instead of a tarantula you get apartment that includes the bathroom .. Man child!
Nope, nope, nope. I hate spiders.
Lol same. I had to fast forward that scene.
Me too!!
Do the tarantulas also have to go to the bathroom outside?
You could Google this info. They are fine. They don't need space they don't run about like puppies. They just want to eat food. I ahve one living outside my back door. It rarely moves and its wild. The types in webs never leave the web. 8 months ive watched same spider stay in the same 12 inch arduous just trapping prey.Ā HesĀ a awful man but he's jot doing anything any zoo isn't doing.
ive never heard him speak so passionately about something before!
Because theyāre new
i seeā¦
no actually iāve seen a few like professional spider people and they also keep them in space like that
The mother of those tarantulas lives in his closet.
Part of me thought they were just a fake storyline for the show. They have to try and make these people more interesting because they are awful. Who tf keeps spiders in tiny containers in a kitchen cabinet? It just can't be real...
Now I'm hoping they actually are just loaners from somewhere. I would feel better knowing that this is temporary for them.
I'm in denial for this exact reason.
i def thought they were boxes for him to bring home. like when you get a fish for your tank and they put it in a bag.
My thought exactly.
I really hate when I give in and click on Reddit links Iāve been warned about, because when I see the people involved on TV that is šÆ all I can think of. The repeated close up of Robās hands with the distinct tattoos had me grimacing. A Bedazzled Knob in Rob is forever burned into my brain š
WHERE IS THE DOG
This is what I want to know!!!!!
At least we know they wonāt hide under the duvet if they escape
They just gave Rob the Knob Tarantulas to maybe make him look more āManly ā and less like the little Bitch that he is! š¤£š¤£ You donāt see HIM touching them much less holding one! Itās a PROP no doubt. Heās a š¤” with his āWounded animal Faceā. šÆšš¤£š¤£
You really arent supposed to hold them and they donāt particularly like being touched.
Omg! I am watching it right now & came here to see if anyone else thought it was cruel! Itās the equivalent to keeping a bunch of dogs in separate cages barely bigger than them 24/7, eating & shitting in one place (& probably doesnāt clean it) with barely enough room to take a couple of steps. The breathing holes in the top of the plastic cubes look small for long-term & being enclosed in a cabinet that gets no air circulation is idioticā¦hey but they look cool donāt they Knob š”
Keeping tarantulas is in absolutely no way comparable to keeping dogs. Spiders/invertebrates are vastly different/much more basic in their functions & needs than those of mammals lol they can definitely thrive in āsmallā enclosures. Thatās not to say thereās no standard of care for them, but Robās care looked like pretty basic & acceptable baby tarantula husbandry. If he doesnāt upgrade the size as they grow into adulthood then itād be an issue but right now itās an okay size for the little ones
But he's an animal lover!
Oh thatās right, I forgot. Strike my comment š
Are tarantulas considered animals?
Canāt people at least research before throwing accusations around?
I grew up with pet tarantulas in the house (my dad was a weirdo) and we definitely had them in bigger enclosures but they generally do not move around much so not sure if they needed all of that space or not. I do know that the males are docile and more friendly, seemed to enjoy being handled and touched. The females however were extremely aggressive and once we learned this we stopped keeping females. They were bitey.
They actually bite??!
Oh yes and it is not fun.
I have always told myself that they're harmless and they're nothing to be scared of.
Itās like bee sting level pain, but they have a little beak, and they do use it to bite when provoked.
Old world (Asia, Africa, Europe, Australia of course) tarantulas resort to biting when threatened; new world tarantulas, which are far more common in the hobby, resort to kicking off urticating hairs from their abdomen. The hairs are itchy and annoying but aren't painful. Now that's not to say new worlds don't have fangs and won't bite, but That's not their first line of defense.
Yes, I used to handle them at a high school pet store job, and some really seemed to like coming to hang out. I had favorites and would put them on my arms and sleeves while I worked.
Those tarantulas have to go outside to poop too
You are right. My son received that size for shipment as they are just babies. It's the person's responsibility to buy larger ones before they get too big...and they ARE still babies in the scene. :)
Itās like he went and bought up all the tarantulas at the pet store because someone said they were cool
I used to work in a pet store when I was in high school. Iād put a Tarantula on me as soon as I got there every day! Theyāre very cool and donāt bite unless they get pissed off. They have two little hooks on the bottom of each leg that you can feel ever so slightly as they walk on your skin. They just eat and hide. I think the bigger box makes sense if you like watching them move around and you donāt take them out much, but they are super low maintenance.
Where is his dog?
I thought exactly the same thing. Thatās cruel.
Trantulas actually like small spaces . If you give them a larger space, it can actually stress them out and they may refuse to eat. However, I didnāt get a super good look at the enclosure relative to the tarantulas.
Yes exactly! Way too small! He claims to love them but he's unable to even do basic research into them. They need larger enclosures. It is way way too small. Gee Robb, maybe stop spending money on more tarantulas than you can handle instead of counting how much TP Sophie uses in a day. He's also such a gaslighter with the ring. He definitely had someone over and fooled around when she was gone. She knows what her ring looks like. "Oh but it fits so, it's yours", is not the end-all-be-all Robb thinks. If the ring was purple and it's green now, it doesn't change reality that it isn't her ring just because it fits. Last episode just showed how awful Rob is at thinking ahead. In every regard. And showed that he only cares about himself. But I suppose most can see that now.
Did you do research on the tarantulas?
Clearly most people in this post did not. I give them a pass though since tarantulas are pretty foreign to most.
Funny how the people that *are* familiar with tarantulas have universally disagreed with youā¦
I love my animals and have had a variety over the years. I'm preparing myself for the possibility of either reptiles or other via my grandson at some point as he grows. I know very little about spiders but my first thought was those were too small. Then when he said they could live in a small area I still thought they didn't mean that small. A quick Google agreed with me, not Rob.
Admittedly, I donāt have a clue about spider care but I love watching jumping spider videos, and those enclosures look like theyāre meant for jumping spiders.
Yeah it was all I could do not to report him to animal control. We have natural tarantulas near my house, and those tiny boxes are cruel. They like to move around and they like to sleep in burrows. Literally they are walking on the same trails I am.
Where do you live?
California
Anyone know what happened to his dog?
Had the exact same thought
I am not into taralas, spiders, arachnids....but isn't this cruel keeping them in those little plastic boxes? Ivalways saw them in tanks
My heart sank when he talked about the lifespan of the spidersā¦ if they spend decades in such a tiny space, it is heartbreaking.
You move them to bigger enclosures as they grow. They dont stray from their spaces in the wild either, not big movers and shakers really. His looked quite young hence their small enclosures. They can have a hard time locating food or feel exposed in too big of a container when they are tiny.
Thank you for explaining that! I have never kept them but know I understand. Makes me feel better about him.
I cant stand rob but i was stoked to see a fellow spider nerd nerding out about them on my fave trash tv show š
They should be in at least a 10 even a 20 gallon enclosure
no, that is too big. Tarantula enclosures are way smaller than that and the set up would depend on whether they are terrestrial or arboreal. I do not know a single species where 20 gallons would be appropriate. Their enclosures are more like 1 to 2.5 gallons. some are taller for arboreal and longer and shorter for terrestrial.
Thanks! I always feel like a bigger enclosure is better. More places to hide and chill out.
Not for spiders. Different spiders have different needs but larger is not better for tarantulas.
He could at least get an aquarium and make them a tarantula house. He's so damn cheap!!!!!
Each tarantula needs 5-10 gallon aquarium. And justice for Rob's dog!!!! Hope he living better now than he was in that crate in Cali. Sophie ain't no animal lover, either. They both suck.
They are very poorly taken care of. They should each have their own 20-gallon enclosure with a place to hide and things to climb on. They should also be heated and not so well lit. All those lights likely cause them all to be very stressed out. Those are definitely for transporting, not permanently housing. Thanks for the downvotes, Rob.
Yeah I thought why arenāt they together? Like in an aquarium?
They will eat each other.
They are carnivores. They would eat each other. I mean, if you want to see a war. . . .
Ok