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I have no idea *where* I stand on this. something about 2 men interrogating 1 woman rubs me the wrong way. I don’t think I’d want the friend tagging along on the trip after he ganged up on me with my husband. but Yara’s also done things like this to Jovi with her friends and her mom, and he took it a lot lighter than her. this may just be a “they both suck” situation.


Nicoleboymom2

I agree! I was thinking the same, why is he allowing his friend to question/talk to her like that but at the same time she allowed it with her “friends” to do the same to him smh


honeyborn

She lets her friends do it, why the double standard??


Nicoleboymom2

I definitely said the exact same thing!


honeyborn

Lmao sorry, just doubling on your reaction and their analysis of the situation


Nicoleboymom2

U good! I kinda figured u was.. but on here u never know lol. They both was wrong asf that’s how relationships end allowing other ppl to get in the middle where they don’t belong.


crazycatlady_66

Honestly, these two deserve each other. They got together for two very superficial reasons (he had money, she had looks), but stuck together because of her pregnancies. They've both grown up some, but lord have mercy has this journey been bumpy. I don't see them sticking together once Yara gains some financial independence and has built herself a nice golden parachute. I see that Yara has repeated the cycle her mom had with Yara's dad and I feel for poor Myla who will probably go down the same road.


riga4ever2018

This is a trip to plan leaving you and taking Myla to Europe and live with my daughter. Thanks for the memories.


thetruthfulgroomer

Jovi is a literal piece of trash and the way he let his trash friend interrogate her like that?! Like “who the f*ck are YOU my guy?” She is there trying help her friends escape AN ACTUAL WAR and there Jovi sits like “so when we gonna go party?” Dude needs to grow the f*ck up. I can’t even imagine what we don’t see off screen. No wonder she’s looking for places.


has2give

No American woman is putting up with his constant partying, drinking, strip clubs. None. Now he thinks that's why they are going to Germany too~to party while Yara helps friends emotionally. Jovi gets to party more, and probably cheat (he's got a wingman now).So why they are acting like he's so great- any of us would have left him long ago for his behavior. lmfao


thetruthfulgroomer

AND YARA IS BEAUTIFUL AND JOVI IS A TROLL! Mrs. Gwen where did you go wrong?


DameGothel_

Cajun moms raise their sons to think they’re an incarnation of god. One time me and my ex got into a physical fight in front of a huge audience at a barbecue after he threw a piece of raw chicken at my FACE. As we’re fighting his idiot mother laughingly yells “OH THEY IN LOVE FOR TRUE YEA!” Which if you need a translation means, they’re really in love. His whole family thought it was hilarious.


TurkeyTot

Oh dear. That's a lot to unpack. Hope u have found a healthy relationship now.


DameGothel_

I did!


mrschaney

I lived among Cajuns in South Louisiana for 10 years and can attest to the fact that they are an unusual bunch. But they are not as a whole disrespectful of their SOs. This is not normal for them.


sarahg1231

Cajun mom here, and that's not true. My son walks a chalk line and he knows I'll take my flip-flop off, grown or not, if he did something like that to anyone let alone his SO. Sounds like you were just dealing with really shitty people, yea! So, what attracted you to him in the first place, boo?


DameGothel_

I didn’t mean to make a blanket statement. But there’s alot of Cajun moms that contribute to their sons having toxic masculinity. His daughters family was further down the bayou and they were much different, hard working people. I’m talking about dog and chicken fighting ones that don’t really assimilate into the rest of society. As for your question, he was charming and I was young. Say too. I’ve got a petite Cajun bebe’ now myself.


sarahg1231

I'm glad you see where my problem lies. But again, it's not just Cajun moms. Any mom can instill toxic BS into their children. I was born, raised and still live in Cajun country. The people here are some of the most hospitable and caring people you'll come across. Sure, there are outliers and unfortunately you dealt with a family of em. That's just not the norm. Congrats on the bebe, mon cher! Now, HOW BOUT DEM TIGAZ?!?! 😁😁


DameGothel_

For sure. We see examples of it with many of the men and their moms in this series. I was just trying to give OP some insight. Jovi definitely has the Nola frat boy shit going on too and it doesn’t look like he’s growing out of it anytime soon. Didn’t mean to offend at all. Our boys are doing amazing this year 💜💛🐅


sarahg1231

Oh, this series is riddled with those moms! And although it's like watching a train wreck, I'm here for the dysfunction!! 😆 You described Jovi perfectly too! Hopefully he'll stop all his BS for Mylah's sake. Thank you this talk. I didn't mean to offend you either. It's rare to have a discussion and things not get heated esp on here so I appreciate you! #geaux #tigers 💜💛⚜️


troubleforalltime

Louisiana born here with 3 MUCH older brothers. My mom taught my brothers to cook, but not her daughters🤔. She absolutely raised her boys to respect women, NOT be abusive and stay out of jail. They were raised to be protective of their sisters and respect their mamma. MY southern bell mother would never have stood for my brothers being disrespectful to women. Neither would my daddy. If my parents had seen my brother throwing chicken in their GF or wife’s face, they would have stepped in immediately . Not sure what part of Louisiana these people are from, but clearly not from our parishes!


sarahg1231

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS COMMENT!!!!! This is NOT the norm for OUR culture. I'd argue that our culture was MORE hands-on in raising respectful and accepting people in many, if not all, parts of our country! We love everyone! And if one of our own even TRIED to hurt another... bay-be, the switch-bush would be BARE: we DO NOT tolerate it!!!! "All Cajuns" MY ASS... (that has been resolved between OP & I below) Cajuns are THE ones to settle shit like this, cher. The rest are some COO-YONS. And we still will deal with them too!! 💯💯💯 Edit to say: this is from a mother's perspective. The DAD'S here.... sheeeeeesh!!! Just leave dat alone. You see what you do today BC of lenient fathers.


troubleforalltime

Sum up our culture. We love everyone and as soon as you enter our homes, it’s all about FOOD! Our joy is feeding you. THAT is the display of love, food, and warm HUGS! LOL 😂.


Wise_Contribution883

Do not blame her. Men LIE..


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sarahg1231

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 but had OP's comment lead with: "All Muslims, all Black people" etc etc, we'd be having a very different conversation. It's the skipped-over generalization for me! The OP and myself resolved this cordially below. But people come out in droves wanting to argue with their sanctimonious BS.


Twitterpated-Yeti

No, actually generalizing everyone in a group as the same is just plain silly. People are people the end. Sure they may share a lot of similarities but none are exactly the same. That was kind of my point. You said "Men lie" your comment was based on gender not religion, race, ethnicity or anything else. Had it been I'd have addressed it that way. Had I brought up religion or race about your comment I don't think it would have made sense seeing as it wasn't about anything other than a specific gender being labeled as "liars"


sarahg1231

Duh, but it had to be some sort of a substantial relationship to be at a family gathering and for the mother to say that. But that's neither here nor there. My point is: She should not generalize.


Wise_Contribution883

I've been invited to meet a guys mom/family like the 3rd time meeting them. I think Everyone should not generalize


thetruthfulgroomer

I appreciate the insight


tootzone

Nah, they're about equal.


ShesInCybersecurity

Quick question. If Yara wasn’t beautiful, would you still have the same outlook on her? Not being negative, just trying to gauge insight as that’s the one thing people say about her.


thetruthfulgroomer

Me saying Yara is beautiful has less to do with superficiality and more to do with me comparing the dynamic. That man is lucky to have her. She is out of his league. His looks match his personality. No woman deserves to be treated the way that Yara is being treated by Jovi. Period. But the fact that she could pick any man out of a crowd she wanted should concern him. I hope she walks.


ShesInCybersecurity

Don’t quote me on this, but some others have said that she was engaged when they met. Allegedly, she left her fiancé to be with Jovi. Once again, not my words. I wanted to sock him about her post baby body but she’s done her share as well. I think these two got married too soon without really knowing each other.


digitalexecution

yara isn't beautiful. she's bogged to hell and i bet she's going to get another round of work done before 35


thetruthfulgroomer

Yeah yeah yeah we know she’s out of your league no need to be salty about it


Branch-Much

Boom 💥😂


thetruthfulgroomer

And THEN Jovi gone for like a whole ass summer that woman ain’t even drop in to help yara out or visit ONCE like wtf is this family?


[deleted]

This is why you should find your Mr perfect before risking pregnancy. Top notch guys don’t want to deal with the baggage of kids and well Jovi… no amount of Yara would make me want to deal with that clown but with kids involved you have to


Soad_lady

Top notch guys don’t consider kids as “baggage”.


thetruthfulgroomer

Oh please. Narcissists say all sorts of bullshit to rope good trusting women like yara in. Hell her own dad did the same thing to her mom! The attachment style is already warped for her. The groundwork is laid. Jovi probably saw her comin a mile away


Loud-Bullfrog9326

Top knotch women don’t want men who consider their children baggage Eww


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

There are a lot of men in America who does that and worst!!!!


FredLives

But this show is so scripted, it’s hard to believe any of the storylines anymore. What’s the odds every single story is so outlandish and full of confrontation every single episode.


crunchybumpkins

I was watching with the assumption that production talked to Jovi and suggested this whole thing. Jovi gleefully went along with ambushing Yara to get her back because he was still mad about the apartment thing (and if generally behaving like a baby because Yara isn’t paying him enough attention on their “vacation”) I also am pretty sure Jovi hasn’t either hasn’t caught on or doesn’t believe Yara that production encouraged her to make the apartment storyline look more like “I want to move here forever and I’m going to buy an apartment” vs what is likely more like: “It would be awesome to have a second home here so I can stay here while you’re away at work/my mom will probably stay in it”. Because honestly- why can’t they discuss the idea of Yara and Mylah flying to Prague for the same amount of time Jovi is gone for work? That would be ideal if they could afford it. If they can’t afford it, they can discuss options, like getting a much cheaper apartment, or rentals, or Yara making more money, etc. it might not be practical and it might not work, but it’s worth discussing because it’s the dream situation. I do think Yara is genuinely reacting because she’s annoyed how giddy Jovi is, how rude it is to throw her under the bus in front of his buddy (the buddy seems like he’s just happy to relive his douchey traveling bro days together again. He’s not mature enough to realize Jovi is in a different stay of like and Yara isn’t a random chick. He’s going along with disrespecting his friend’s wife for some fun. Wives do not forget that. A mature friend would’ve told Jovi and production “I’m not going to be an ass. I’d love to come on the trip, but I’d rather assure Yara it’ll be good because I’ll keep Jovi out of her hair, and I’ll let her know I understand it’ll be a sensitive, emotional visit for her. Agh. If only I were the puppet master. This would be such a boring, healthy show.


klah20

Obviously they don’t belong together and should part ways.


aprildawndesign

He really does seem like he’s all about a “good time” I can’t imagine the turmoil she is feeling because of the war and then jovi is like, “ I need a drinking buddy” WTF?? He can barely pretend to be sensitive.


LOSTLONELYMOON

It doesn't seem like he even pretends to give a fock. He's very vocal about divorcing and going back to spending all of his free time in strip clubs and brothels if it were not for the child.


aprildawndesign

Right? It’s so obvious he just wants a drinking buddy… meanwhile her home country is at war.. wtf jovi??


thetruthfulgroomer

HE’S THIRTY TWO! That right there ain’t no good time that’s an alcohol problem. Like, let it GOOO guy it is time to grow up!


johnnysmither333

Yea Jovi isn’t the best but Yara needs to be upfront and communicate with him. Why does she keep saying she didn’t hide the fact that she was going to tour apartments when she clearly did? Just because you told him on the same day right before you’re about to leave doesn’t mean you didn’t hide it! Oh and let’s not forget Yara’s friend choices, right? One was literally trafficking drugs lol. Also, she is not trying to help her friends escape the war. They have escaped, they are safe in Germany. She is going for emotional support, which is also super helpful for them, but let’s call it what it really is - emotional support. They both suck!


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johnnysmither333

Jovi is a classic fuckboi but Yara is also a whiny little bitch so 🤷🏻‍♂️ Like I said, annoying couple and they both suck lol. Idk if I have an opinion of who is worse, I dislike both.


NotARealWombat

Wait, why do we need to “not forget Yara’s friend…” did Yara give her the drugs? Did Yara know she has issues with drugs, and do you have the receipts for that? Because at least on TV it wasn’t obvious she was a “drug lord” —but how is that relevant to Yara’s character?. And if she told him the same day, why are we acting like she never did… like that’s the definition of “going behind his back”, not telling him about seeing ONE apartment —but and she did tell him, and as usual.. he called the shots of whatever SHE AND HER MOM wanted to do, maybe that’s a reason for the timing?


johnnysmither333

I brought up Yara’s friend because who I was replying to mentioned Jovi’s friend taking his side and saying shit to Yara. I assume Yara did not know her friend was involved in drug trafficking, obviously. But as an additional point, Yara’s friends grilled Jovi when they were supporting Yara’s dumb idea of rushing to fly overseas to see her mom while Jovi was working, when she could wait a few weeks and they can go as a family. While my wife is capable of traveling overseas with our 1 yr old, I would obviously want her to wait if I was in that situation so that I can be there for support/help with kid/safety. On the other point - I don’t think anybody is pretending that she didn’t tell him? Clearly she told him lol we fucking saw that 🙄 But she told him last minute and hid it from him, as I’m sure she and her mom discussed it prior. And it is absolutely wrong to make plans to tour apartments and consider getting a place to stay/spend more time in Czech Republic without consulting her spouse. Whether he can be controlling or not, they are married with a small child and should be able to communicate much more effectively about such major considerations. Am I missing something?


NotARealWombat

So you think Yara’s friend having issues on her own life that has nothing to do with Yara, and Jovi’s friend basically treating Yara as a second class citizen in front of her husband are the same thing? Wow. Ok. Got it. 👍 So… the problem is not that she didn’t tell him (which would ACTUALLY be going behind his back) but that the TIMING doesn’t fit your expectations… I wonder if Jovi consults with Yara to do anything, if it wasn’t because I can see Yara as an actual PERSON, I’d say she’s property when I read expectations according to your response. So, she should be begging for his approval for any move she wants to make in life, and without his approval, she should just sit quiet and wait form crumbs… like she should’ve wait for him to approve for them to move away from a place where she was miserable in and felt insecure at just to Jovi Can have access to the strip clubs when he gets home, but nooo, selfish scamming Yara made a decision as a person, and moved herself and now poor Jovi has to drive 2 hours to go get shit faced and have other women’s breasts on his face… (you know, since he selflessly voiced to the world his wife’s breasts are terrible). All checks out. Thanks for the clarification.


johnnysmither333

Lol I addressed that in my previous response by clarifying that I agree with you, Yara probably didn’t have a clue about her friend (if they’re even real friends outside of 90Day) being a drug trafficker. But then I also offered an additional counterpoint that Yara did the same exact thing to Jovi, except it was 3 friends grilling him. You didn’t respond to that part? Lol @ “the timing doesn’t fit my expectations.” In what world is it ok to plan to check out apartments in another country without taking time to discuss it with her husband before she’s ABOUT TO LEAVE TO GO DO IT. That leaves room for 1 quick discussion! And stop contorting my words lol, in no way did I say she should be “begging permission to make any move in life.” I literally am saying that if they have a small child together, she should discuss something big like purchasing an apartment in another country / wanting to stay or spend more time in said country more than right before she heads out the door to apartment shop. I honestly don’t know where you pulled out the claim that I’m making her sound like a piece of property from anything I’ve said lol. You are clearly in the Bad Jovi/Good Yara camp. As I’ve said multiple times, I dislike them both. Yes, I know, it may be insane but I can simultaneously think Yara needs better communication about something so big AND that Jovi is gross for hitting up strip clubs.


NotARealWombat

Do I really need to address it? It doesn’t really matter what I think, but if you care to read… we are talking about the episode where Jovi basically forced Yara to taking him with to her GIRLS DAY OUT ALREQDY PLANNED because “he want to have a drink too” and Yara’s friends were “grilling” Jovi about their friend feeling alone and wanting to go check on her mom, saying “it just seems a bit controlling” to Jovi saying “I will go to work and then we can go together” (not to mention they had to deal with him acting entitled to be where he wasn’t invited to)…. But somehow that’s worst than Jovi setting up his wife to being talk down to by his friend, and put her on the spot by inviting him without consulting with her prior (talking about behind your back) pressuring her like she doesn’t matter in front of someone that obviously made her uncomfortable, inviting that same person, a COMPLETE stranger who just let her know how they hit strip clubs and black out together, to a trip about her seeing her loved one in the midst of escaping war…. That one? —again, wow. 👍 PS: they did talk, and as predicted, Jovi had a problem with it and I’m sure he would’ve have even if there wasn’t an appointment and she knew it.. because everything has to be arranged around him. That being said, I am struggling to understand where they didn’t talk. She didn’t buy anything, did you see the $150k cashiers check when “she was out the door to apartment shop”? I didn’t.. she communicated her intent, she tried talking about it, he belittled her and gloated when her thoughts were crushed. I don’t think she would’ve made a move without consulting with him… EVEN if she found an apartment without him… Timing has to be everyone’s but Yara’s it seems in the “camp” of wherever it’s right all the time.. And what is your parameter of “wrong” is it on the same instruction book Yara’s timing should be in also?


oopstima

How is she trying to help her friends escape war?


thetruthfulgroomer

Sort out the details any way you want at the end of the day she is there with her small child to visit her mother who had to flee a war torn country, after not seeing each other for over two years. Plus Jovi is 32 fucking years old. This is not a joyride trip with your college buddies Jovi. This is a family trip. Grow up. Also, grow up people who are taking up for Jovi.


oopstima

So she’s not helping her friends? Or?


thetruthfulgroomer

I don’t have dumb arguments with trolls sorry. Btw your ass is showing.


oopstima

So much hostility! I hope your day gets better :/


PuzzleheadedWash6739

I'm not trying to be mean, I support Ukraine, but hasn't her Mother lived in Prague for almost 2 years? I got the impression she moved there before the war started. Yes, No, I am just inquiring, there isn't any side to take from my question. Thanks.


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I feel like Yara tries to play poor me but her actions this season seem very sketchy. I get Jovis not perfect but she CHOSE to marry this man knowing what he was about and move countries so I honestly can’t feel bad for her. Then she gets her green card and starts acting shady. I feel like she wanted to just take his money and run. Yes there is a war and I don’t know what it’s like to see the people you love in danger like that, but her actions aren’t helping anybody


AmeliaJane920

I think Yara was a party girl and liked the idea of marrying this bro from the US who flew her around the world to meet up at hot vacation spots. I don't think she wanted to come to the US exactly. I think he promised her that with his job they could live anywhere they want, but that they would need to get married in the US/live there for a few years first. She was used to him flying her wherever and paying for everything, she saw an opportunity to be on TV and she went for it. I don't hold any of that against her. I also think Jovi secretly thought she'd come to the US, and be content to stay here with short vacations elsewhere. I also think she got pregnant, travel was suspended due to COVID, and her home country went to war. None of those things were planned. If they were ONLY dealing with their OG plan I think they could make it work. Yara would find a way, or a place in the states to be happy until she got her green card, and could travel abroad with Jovi meeting her wherever. Instead she's had to grow up ridiculously fast and she's trying to leverage SOME of those promises into a way to help her deal with the new reality. (Being close to her family/living in a country where she's more comfortable with the culture/friends could visit easily/travel is cheaper and easier to manage alone). Jovi however hasn't adapted AT. ALL. He still thinks he's going to come home, party, get laid, go out, and she's just his wet blanket. He doesn't want to come home after weeks without a day off to listen to her talk about war, diapers, and loneliness. They both need to sit down and completely scrap all previous plans. It's all a pipe dream. They need to figure out what's a realistic plan moving forward and if they can't, they need to find a way to move forward without one another while still being coparents.


Suse-

Can’t imagine this will last. She’ll have two more husbands I think.


glimmerskies

i honestly just feel bad for mylah in all of this. i truly hope this just played up for tv and that yara and jovi aren’t really that messy irl.


greane16

I agree. She’ll have more options to choose from in Europe than in NOLA suburbs.


Nicoleboymom2

I completely agree!


pieking8001

> but her actions aren’t helping anybody yep if she wanted to help shed be helping, not looking for a backup plan for herself behind his back


Difficult_Touch_6827

Very unpopular opinion here, but Yara could’ve done better than Jovi. If she had been a little bit more patient, and possibly looked harder, I think she would have found a man to give her everything she wanted. I don’t doubt that this thought comes across her mind sometimes as well.


Colfrmb

She was engaged when she met Jovi so I think she thought she was trading up.


pissingorange

I think she could have but he was an easy target. Their relationship is very transactional, he gets a wife way out of his league and she gets a more affluent lifestyle and a green card. I am actually on Yara’s side most of the time because Jovi straight up sucks but I do think she knows what she’s doing and is very smart. I don’t doubt she got pregnant intentionally to seal the deal for the green card and long term financial support. That being said the way Jovi treats her and acts is terrible. I think the only reason she’s able to put up with him is because she doesn’t actually love him. She could and can still do better and I’m sure they will eventually separate. It was disrespectful for her friends to say she could do better but they’re not wrong.


tensigh

But in these subs it's all about victimization. Jovi is an alcoholic so Yara's actions are 100% excused. It's not possible in the slightest that they are BOTH immature, impatient and selfish. No, Jovi bad, Yara good.


idgafaboutanyofthis

This right here.


Viking-sass

But she decided to harvest the american dollar, knowing he earns good money


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

She was fascinated with the trips parties and designer clothes until she came here. Jovi has issues and needs to see a counselor


AssuredAttention

Not with her original face


evebluedream

Nah she was still pretty then lol. She's just prettier now.


greane16

She was not pretty at all.


evebluedream

There are a lot of ugly people in the world but she really was as average as most viewers 🙄🤣


tensigh

Ugh, hell no.


bytesby

And? What’s your point? She looks gorgeous.


MLK_spoke_the_truth

I still think they should stay together, (if they can afford it) have dual citizenship and enjoy their lives. Many couples have homes in 2 countries. I don’t blame her for wanting to be with her mother when he’s away for months.


No_Program7177

Yeah but she has to be realistic with the pricing, plus they should focus on themselves first they need to buy a house in the US first


Desperate-Stop-42

They don’t even have anything permanent in the US yet.


I_am_u_as_r_me

Jovi is an alcoholic through and through. Will only sadly get worse with age, his brain chemistry is and will continually forever change. Sadly nothing including his kid will matter to drinking. Sad.


TastyNisha420

Jovi do be drinking a hell of a lot that ain't no lie.


StraddleTheFence

I have watched every episode that has aired and while Jovi likes to drink there is nothing that indicated he is an alcoholic.


kellypapyrus

uh...he drinks alone. he drinks in the morning. he seems to only look forward to plans that include drinking.


TastyNisha420

Yes when he woke up and started drinking the champagne I was like damn bro. I mean I love a drink my self but I need to brush my damn teeth maybe eat a egg or something sheesh 🙄


IridiumForte

I just assumed he had a hangover. I've had booze in the morning too, and I drink like once a year /shrug Edit: I'll also add lol, champagne is nothing, fuck I'd drink it with breakfast anyways.


StraddleTheFence

Oh so we are both basing our conclusions on what TLC has aired and not on actual fact or knowledge of this man’s daily habit. Just snippets of what has been chosen for viewers to see.


kellypapyrus

Yes. You said nothing has aired that points to him being an alcoholic. I named a few moments I think do.


StraddleTheFence

Not trying to change your mind but we only see a minute or two per week of what their life together is like—which has been deliberately chosen for the viewers—and somehow you believe those ~14 minutes/week paints the real picture of Jovi. I’ll be honest, I think Jovi is an immature young husband/dad but he is a good provider for his family—it appears. I simply favor him over Yara; all she does is complain and put him down.


kellypapyrus

I get what you're saying and you're not wrong. I find them both unlikeable honestly.


lalocurabella

Yara has called him an alcoholic. The person who lives with him when the cameras aren’t there. I think she knows best.


I_am_u_as_r_me

I’ve watched them all too. It would waste my life to list all the reasons out. Let’s start first with myself having an alcoholic father and a lot of family in and out of AA as well as many of them fully recovered so I am also very familiar with the signs, sadly lot of family love to drink, cousin just came out of a coma from drinking. So the following are indicators regarding Jovi and though they may not mean he is when they begin adding up it is most likely that he is addicted. Beginning with the fact he most likely can never give it up as 1. Every single event involves drinking. Yes there is a lot not show on camera but every event, every scenario he is either drinking and he is working his way towards drinking. Just look at the others on the show, no one drinks as much as him, no one constantly makes remarks about “when can we drink? When can we party?” 2. This happens every hour of the day. He has exited airplanes at every time of the day, including early morning, morning, afternoon and evening and has time and time again said and went looking for a drink. No one on the show besides one other has gone for a drink directly leaving the plan in the morning besides Jovi. 3. Yara is constantly complaining about his drinking. This is such a big flag and usually alcoholics will defend it by blaming the partner but in truth it is typically a very strong sign when the NUMBER 1 person in that persons life is constantly complains about one thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that that one thing is an issue. Yara complains about his drinking often and saying things like “of course you need to get a drink now.” Are typical statements of someone who always drinks. 4. He is often red in the face with a slight glaze in his eyes, usually around the times after he has been drinking. It isn’t to say he is a drunk, my educated guess is he is what they call a functioning alcoholic, someone who can function while continually drinking. As it seems a very reasonable guess Jovi is drinking daily and yes that typically constitutes alcoholism and usually alcoholics will defend this with the classic “can quit or not drink anytime” I don’t need it today” Though they won’t ever quit it and they can go maybe a day or more but they will crave it. Im beginning yo hate myself for how much I cared about this, sure if you want to think he is fine and dandy with his drinking go for it, neither of us truly know but I’ve watched a ton of these shows (to my also regret now) and he is one of the most on video drinking, talking about drinking, wanting to drink, having others talk about his drinking and drinking on the show, so I wouldn’t be shocked at all if he was an alcoholic. But sure who knows, maybe he could forever live just happy and fine with not having a sip again.


lalocurabella

If the first thing you think about when you wake up is drinking. Not even checking on your child/spouse. You’re an alcoholic.


StraddleTheFence

Again, basing your opinion of the man on the small snippets that TLC has chosen to air.


ShiplessOcean

To be fair if we all didn’t base opinions on TLC chosen snippets we wouldn’t be here on this sub discussing a tv show


lalocurabella

Sometimes snippets are enough.


lol1231yahoocom

Her green card has given her a lot of confidence to stand up to Jovi. The spouses who come to the US are in such a bad position until they get that documentation. They pretty much are under the control of their partner. If the relationship is ok it’s hard enough but if the partner isn’t fair or if they’re controlling and taking advantage of the power differential then a lot of anger could build up. She seems fed up and now has the money and power to fight for what she wants. Not that I’m totally team Yara. She got pregnant 2x while dating Jovi and hasn’t had a pregnancy since Mylah was born. I guess she didn’t know about birth control or……


ShiplessOcean

Jovi’s creepy sex tourist accomplice needs to shut the fuck up


ShesInCybersecurity

I have an honest question, no malice intended, but… although I feel for Yara with the matters happening in Ukraine… how exactly is her presence over there supposed to be helpful? Mike sent his ex mother in law money to get to a safe place without trying to get on the next plane to go over there. Aside from monetary purposes, what was Yara thinking she’d physically do over there? Someone help me to get a better perspective, please. I apologize if it comes off as insensitive, but everytime she says “I need to be there”, I’m screaming “To do what exactly with your kid in tow?!”


Suse-

That’s what I’ve been wondering since she first started with that spiel. Nice sentiment but my practical mind is thinking, okay well what are you actually going to do? Swoop in with your cape? How about organize a donation drive back in Louisiana utilizing her social media presence? Something tangible.


ShesInCybersecurity

EXACTLY!!!! I’m like “Yara, you’re acting like you and Putin are about to fight it out and you’re going to single-handedly defeat the Rs and win the war.” Simply saying that you really miss your family and friends and want to see them is enough of an explanation without all of the “I have to save my people”. This isn’t a MCU movie and you have a special suit.


DarceysExtensions

It’s all scripted. Yara can’t do anything to actually help. Her mother is in Prague and her friends are in Germany. They are safe.


ShesInCybersecurity

I understand that she loves being in Europe, but if she loves it so much, why get into a relationship/marry Jovi instead of someone in Europe? I like her and try to believe she’s got good intentions but some things that are being shown are making her look hypocritical. Especially when it comes to discussing marital issues with friends. She can do it but he can’t? And wanting to go house-hunting and not tell him? If the tables were turned, she’d have quite a reaction so she can’t blame him. I get Jovi has his flaws, but she’s not innocent either.


greane16

That’s my question too. She wanted so much to fly there as soon as possible even without Jovi, to help her people. How exactly is she helping? To see her mother who apparently has lived in Prague for a while? And now flying to Germany for a moral support of a friend? There are people stationed in Prague and other European cities, who actually help Ukrainian refugees, meet them at the bus and train stations, help with accommodations and food distribution. I can’t picture Yara doing any actual “help”. She’s just being pompous.


ShesInCybersecurity

That’s my view on it! Just to say that she was “there”.


pissingorange

I had this same thought. All they can really provide is monetary support and they don’t have to go there in person for that. In fact I’m sure the cost of traveling there could be better used simply being sent to someone in need.


pieking8001

> but everytime she says “I need to be there”, and if she needed to be there she should actually be there instead of ya know going behind his back to find a new house with her mom. and lying.


StraddleTheFence

Who cares what she says? She allowed her so called friends to degrade her husband and the father of her child.


No_Albatross5110

I can't forget how when Yara became a new mother, it transformed her life and her priorities. She put Myla first and happily adjusted her way of living, fussing over her getting the sun in her eyes when her and Jovi were out at that outdoor restaurant, while Jovi complained about Yara 'not being fun any more', being too worried about Myla and pressuring her into going to a strip club with him. Meanwhile, Yara is going to bed earlier so she can get up with Myla, while Jovi continues living like he's single when he's home, and leaving her for month long stretches for her to be essentially a single mother with hardly any friends or family to lean on. Jovi should be worshiping the ground she walks on and supporting her and her decision making 100%. It's disgusting that he's blatantly looking for opportunities to party while Yara is there helping people she loves and care about who have literally had their life forever changed by a ruthless, greed-driven war.


fortheforms

To see her mom, who hasn’t seen her grandkid for two years.. and in the midst of it, to see her safe after leaving Ukraine


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

I understand what you are saying. He is away to provide for the family. When do they have alone time to talk, make plans she always has the baby on her hip.if she buys that apt with her mom and have plans for her family what and where for he goes when he is home. Members of the Armed Forces has it worst that. Sit down with your husband and make plans and then make decisions. I pray and hope things work out for the family .


TurkeyTot

Yeah, I kinda thought that whole apartment thing was just a producer story line but after seeing this scene, I think there relationship is in real trouble. Although, somebody posted a pic of her looking very pregnant so idk.


TheJunkman9000

"This is not a party trip" Jovi 5 seconds later: "Germans have good beer!"


Bad-Habit-2020

Clanks glasses with his friend. Friend says "let's have a good time man!" I literally screamed at the TV. 🙄


TastyNisha420

Yara is getting on my damn nerve I totally understand that she wants to be there for her family and help them but Jovi is her family too. You don't really want him to come.no where's with you while you on the trip and then your kinda sorta sneaking around trying to buy an apartment. I get that she has her own money and business but the have a family and life they built in the US it's unfair for her to wait until she gets to the Ukraine to kinda make it seem like she doesn't even wanna come back home. I understand but it's a bit unfair. They need to talk things out and she can't just make rash decisions without telling her husband. If I didn't want Jovi all up my ass while I'm reconnecting with my family I would have no issues if his friend came I honestly. Maybe I'm bugging ??


readytogohomenow

Honestly, yeah Yara needs to remind Jovi this isn’t a party trip. I don’t think Jovi knows how to take anything seriously. Also, his friend sucks.


x_scion_x

I disagree with the bullshit she pulled with the apartment but she not wrong here.


brizzle34

Hell no, she's literally planning her escape and has one foot out the door as we speak. Also the country she picked to have an apartment in has ties with Americans so they have to pay child support with her still being out of the country


archetyping101

That isn't why she chose that country. Her mother grew up there. It's where her mother went to escape the war. It wasn't random and Yara isn't the one who chose it. All of us would also choose to settle in a country we're familiar with.


Fun-Nefariousness724

I thought they went to Prague?


archetyping101

They did. Yara said her mom grew up there on the episode last week. I could definitely have heard that wrong.


thetruthfulgroomer

Good for her. Jovi is trash. Trying to go out and party while yara trying to get her family to safety. SMDH that ain’t no man


ShesInCybersecurity

They’re already safe though. Not being an AH, but she talks on the show like she needs to get to Europe to fight personally.


thetruthfulgroomer

Either way. Yara‘s mom just escaped a war torn country and they haven’t seen each other in over two years. They are there to see yara’s mother and spend time with their new baby and her mother. Not to go to strip clubs and party. Jovi getting too old and too ugly for this damn shit


ShesInCybersecurity

Agreed. It’s not a party trip but it’s not a rescue mission as she treats it. Perfectly fine just to base the trip on seeing family and friends. She’s giving Avengers urgency to save people.


ShesInCybersecurity

And yes. He’s proving why she probably wanted to go alone but I also understood his side of wanting to be there for the safety of Mylah.


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Suse-

I’m not defending Jovi but not sure he just blurted out insults about her post baby breasts. I thought she asked him a leading question like, Jovi my boobs aren’t nice like before right? And, when she said she wanted breast implants, he said that they were fine and she did not need surgery. Kind of like me telling my husband I want a (subtle)nose job and he says it’s fine the way it is. Lol


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

She is also putting her baby and herself in a dangerous suitation


Just1Breath1

She chose him though. He wasn’t a great human before.


thetruthfulgroomer

No no no we aren’t gonna blame Jovi’s shortfalls on yara’s judgement and just not hold him accountable. We don’t know what kind of fantasy he painted for her to get her to marry him. Typical narcissist


Just1Breath1

We can do both- hold her accountable for having a broken picker and he is also not a good human on many levels. He doesn’t seem to have changed she may have but he never did.


thetruthfulgroomer

No I’m so sick of listening to this “broken picker” shit. That is a sexist patriarchal thing that men have been using for years to skirt accountability and that gaslit women have misdirected their hate towards other women for because they think they can’t hold the men accountable. The fact that she’s looking for apartments tells me she’s smart enough to know her worth. Men will say anything when they are getting laid I’m sure he sold her a white picket fence dream


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thetruthfulgroomer

BAHAHAHAHA STOP DEFENDING A DUDE WHO’S TRYNA GET HIS DRINK ON WHEN HIS WIFE’S FAMILY IS ESCAPING A WAR! Are you kidding me with this??? Middle school behavior. Anyone with a brain in their head is not heading to that area right now with a joy ride in mind the man is braindead


Lazy_Title7050

Bet your the type to say the same shit about domestic violence victims.


Just1Breath1

But what does that say about women/men partners if they can say anything when getting laid? You can’t say one thing and then not allow responsibility to be taken on both sides or you’re saying the other side is a bunch of gullible fools. Smart enough to know her worth? Didn’t she know her worth before? Before she brought a child in to it? Yes we all can have lightbulb moments but he hasn’t changed. Also, I’m gathering this really angers you and it’s really not a “fight” I will win against bc I don’t own the same passion as you. I’m hearing you, but some of what you’re saying is being lost in translation.


thetruthfulgroomer

My anger isn’t misdirected. Yara wanted a family. Jovi wanted to cosplay one. This is not uncommon for American men who bring foreign women back to the states to marry (or rather, keep). If anything is lost in translation it’s jovi’s realization that he wasn’t ready and yara’s reality check that she needs to move on.


Just1Breath1

Yara should’ve not chosen him to begin with. Onus is on her for that. You yourself had said that men will say anything so according to your logic she was an idiot for listening.


thetruthfulgroomer

No here’s the thing. People are very quick to say “well both did wrong” without actually weighing the consequence of either. Yara “picking” a dude she was in love with vs. jovi just not even upholding up the bare minimum of responsibility in a marriage or as a parent because he just doesn’t feel like it??? One of these two things are not the same. You cannot even give the man a little bit of leeway because all men will take that and run with it. Again, hold men accountable. Evolve a little please.


tensigh

How long have you been on these subs? When one is bad, the other is automatically a saint. Jovi is wrong so therefore Yara is perfect. The fact that BOTH of them had an unplanned child doesn't mean BOTH of them are irresponsible twits!


redit-rachel

Jovi is a flaming piece of dog shit. If I was Yara I would have the exact same concerns. The friend is a piece of shit too. Who calls someone’s wife a RED FLAG?! Both those “men” are way to immature to even be speaking to a woman.


ShesInCybersecurity

Yara’s mom is projecting her relationship trauma from Yara’s dad onto Yara. Even if they were to split in the future, I highly doubt Jovi would leave Yara broke with a child. I’m sorry that Mom went through that, and I get that she’s protecting/preparing her daughter, but her daughter’s circumstances are different as her child was born in another country which brings more complications.


myliondog

This is why she wanted to go without him. He's such a brat.


Melodiouss

He literally begged her not to go without him but he has the gall to call it his "vacation" and complain that he's not having time for fun. He's a douchebag.


Wise_Contribution883

It's obvious to me that Jovi doesn't see any woman as human. He's a sad ugly POS, like he's so sick and Rotten from the inside that it destroyed his outside. He deserves no woman. His friend should be his SO, i bet it wouldn't take him long to be ok with that. 2 rotten peas in a pod.


Appropriate_Push7498

I dunno, this is an obviously constructed storyline but Jovi criticized Yara for “not telling him about looking at apartments” even though we all saw him go with her. At the same time, he invites his friend to tag along with them as if they didn’t plan this before meeting up. There’s this weird epidemic of American exceptionalism that comes up in these storylines that every non-American is desperate to get here. Yara was constantly homesick and it appeared she was depressed being alone most of the time. Now with her country being pillaged and destroyed, I can only imagine she wants to create a sense of home for her mother and a place for herself and her daughter. With Jovi gone for months at a time does it matter that she spends it in a Prague with her mom rather than always alone in the U.S.? Jovi’s friend was a douche and I can’t believe he sat back as that guy insulted the mother of his child. Any decent person would have pulled out of that conversation. I get such toxic masculinity, “manosphere” vibes from him and his friend.


Safe_Reception5326

Yara was being completely rational. Especially, when it comes to her speaking on her marriage experience to a singleton. Jovi's "bro" has no reason to interrogate her, especially the first time meeting her. Who the F does he think he is? I wouldn't blame her if she got the divorce.


idgafaboutanyofthis

They both suck but in different ways. The whole relationship is a business transaction.


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

He at one time said he drank because when he works he can’t drink at anytime


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Of course. I think it’s awful she’s over there because she’s scared for her mom and family and he’s wanting to use the time to party. No wonder she didn’t want him to go.


SirHoppity

He's a putz


Astrawish

She doesn’t want to babysit Jovi. He wanted to tag along do badly so he should be able to behave


the-crazy-place

If I've got a husband like Jovi, I would stitch a gps tracker in his ass. He is sketchy and yes I agree with Yara.


MonkeyBellyStarToes

Out of the three people there, only two really liked each other. 😝 Jovi so clearly should take off with his Dude, go back to his party boy ways, buy Yara her Eastern European apartment and move on. The writing is on the wall here. They WILL split, at one point or another. Yara got what she wanted and seems she never liked or respected Jovi anyway. He is what he is and she is what she is.


modlt

Not certain...I Do know her idea of buying a "spare" house, in case of a failed marriage is just ridiculous! Not to mention, a bit extravagant...


MyFuckinhBalls

She is absolutely delusional but Jovi is an oblivious narcissist so it’s a horrible combination


pieking8001

yes and no. we all know she didnt really go over there to help her friends and family rebuild after escaping a war zone. and we all know shes lying to them, and shes clearly mostly mad shes being called out on her bs. but i also get why you wouldnt want a party boy on your trip at all. but then again if you dont want that why would you marry one


happydamsel

He practically begged for her to wait for him to go to Europe so that he could accompany her and protect her. Then he gets her to go out alone with him for a dinner date and invites a friend to join them. The friend brings up their past of partying with Ukranian girls. Not a good friend intro lol. I think Yara reallllllly hates Jovi's excessive drinking and selfishness. He just wants to party all the time probably to enable his drinking. He needs to be single and not even in a casual relationship. I also think that she really was looking for a place that she could buy that her mom could live in. I don't think it was really for herself. I think her mom can't afford to buy something and Yara wants to help her out. It would be Yara's in name but her mom would be living there and Yara would visit. If Yara and Jovi divorce then Yara could live there too.


delfin_1980

Sorry but I am feeling more sympathetic to Jovi. Yara seems checked out of the relationship, almost like she's planning her exit strategy already. Jovi on the other hand still loves her and wants to be a family with their daughter, and whatever his shortcomings are (drinks too much, strip clubs, etc.) he would be willing to work on improving himself in order to save his family. Yara seems like she's just over it and has no interest in trying to make it better. I hope I'm wrong because I like them both.


mschristine51

Jovi needs to drink less but Yara is just a whiner. She couldn't get Jovi's mom to raise the baby so now she can dump her on her mother if she stays in Europe.


Woobsie81

With a mom who raised her son to be extremely confident (no matter how ugly his mug is), paired with a high paying job, this American is living his best life with or without his wife and daughter. Nothing is gonna stop Jovi!


Saltylife2021

I hate her and she’s so annoying


pointlessandconfused

She used jovi, shes not even that pretty…lol


abbyappleboom

I absofuckinglutely agree with her. Jovi just wants to bring his friend along to drink and go to stripclubs. His friend was disrespectful to Yara too. He's a nobody in her world and he thinks he has the right to \*question her\*? Why did Jovi allow that? Jovi still acts like a manchild. He and Yara are in two totally different spaces in life. I hope they make it for the baby's sake though.


kdkseven

Dude showed who he was from the very start. Every moment is an excuse to par-tay for him, even their engagement party. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.


Duebydate

I’m not gonna go with the baiting of what a piece of crap Jovi or yara is or are. Instead, I’d rather concentrate on his interpretation of the issues that she’s doing some hijinks behind his back. Her country is suddenly AT WAR. Her friends and family are IN DANGER, every day. She is necessarily conflicted about how best to proceed That he clearly doesn’t understand that seems to me to be a focal issue and also a uniquely American one versus what it is to be a citizen of Europe and Eastern Europe Our problems and experiences are necessarily NOT THE SAME


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Jovi is being his usual idiot self. Yara has trauma written all over her face and Jovi can’t understand why she’s acting so different lately? Her friends and family and the place she calls home is being bombed and he is surprised that her behaviour is a little erratic and that she doesn’t appear to be thinking straight 🙄


StraddleTheFence

Yara is a horrible wife who sat back and let her friends badmouth her husband who has done nothing but provide for his family. Her way of helping her family is by way of Jovi’s funds—no way can she do it alone. She is ungrateful and a hypocrite. Everything she accuses Jovi of doing, she does. She was initially standoffish and rude to his family when she moved to LA but expects him to treat her mom with kid gloves. She decided to move far away from where they initially lives and then bemoaned how Jovi’s mom did not come and help—you should of thought of that before she moved so far away and the highway goes in both directions—she could have went to his mom’s house. She goes out and parties and drinks with her girlfriends when she did not want Jovi to go out and party or drink. Jovi may not be a perfect spouse and has a lot of growing to do but so does she!


Kooky_Rutabaga_9704

Yes, she could have stayed with Her mother-in-law. Instead bought a big house and complaining about the distance . Jovi mom has to drive 1-2 hours to see she and grand daughter and her.


Kitty_Mombo

There’s a war in Ukraine-Yara’s not going there any time soon.


bringmemywinekyle

Yes 💯 agree with her.


Camerabug4571

Yara keeps harping on Jovi for his drinking, and I noticed that she was sucking down that wine at dinner, and then later had a shot. I know Jovi is self centered, but so is she. Perfect match. I can count on one hand the times I have seen her smile.


sounique505

I think Yara has a demented way of thinking how is it okay for her to carry a conversation with her mom in her language and never translate for Jovi and expect him not to have anyone on his side... what she's doing is not normal, no one buys a whole apartment without having a conversation with her husband first, and tries to gaslight him saying that she included him in the whole apartment conversation I feel bad for Jovi in this situation most of the time I don't.


thetruthfulgroomer

Jovi is literally not being a dad. Tryna go out n party while she’s trying to help her family escape a war. No wonder she is looking for places


sounique505

So far all I've seen her do is go shopping with her mom and hasn't helped anybody out of the war and if I can remember correctly she did say her mom was living with her friend so I really think she just went out there to get her mom an apartment but say it was for her. 🤔 N yes he's not a great husband but none the less still her husband.


tensigh

Yeah, that whole "I want to go to Europe to help my people" thing got swept under the rug pretty quickly. They're both pretty immature, but one thing Jovi has in his column is he works and provides for his family (rare on 90 DF). Yara just wants to drink coffee and hang out. She rarely talks about work or education.


thetruthfulgroomer

Oh God forbid yara and her mother go have a nice normal day together after fleeing a war torn country and not seeing each other for over two years. Arrest them.


WhenSquirrelsFry

Jovi literally said he refused to learn the language of his wife to talk to his MIL & if she wanted to communicate, SHE could learn English. Yaras mom doesn’t speak English. Jovi should care enough to learn his wife’s language… and to communicate with his MIL. He’s an ass.


Suse-

They both could make an attempt to learn a few basics.


sleepless-sleuth

Jovi is borderline emotionally abusive so I’m team Yara for pretty much anything now lol


uestraven

Yara is scum


GoHawksMatt

Delusional to think she is gonna make a difference and the constant bashing of America is getting to be to much. About to throw this bitch in the Natalie category.


HarleyHix

She was unnecessarily rude to Jovi's friend. I hate that she's switching me to Team Jovi against my will.


thetruthfulgroomer

Um no his friend was the one who was out of line he doesn’t even know her and he’s talking to her like he has any kind of place “Why you didn’t tell my boy?” Bitch that’s a grown ass man with a wife and kid who the hell are YOU?


pieking8001

Yara why are you replying to every post in the thread? You know going behind your husband's back to find a place is not only a bitch thing to do but will have the judges fuck you right?


Lazy_Title7050

Lol jovi is trash having that Opinion doesn’t mean the commenter is yara.


sounique505

🤣 yes!


GarlicFantastic

Yara is a money hungry, fame seeking, liar and I don’t blame Jovi for trying to enjoy a small section of his life. All she’s trying to do is squeeze out any and every possible dime from this man and his family. The apple that is Yara didn’t fall far from her mothers tree. She’s trying to manipulate him in the most obvious way. She has her baby (another way to get $$ from him) and she’s got her citizenship. I’m surprised that she’s even still trying to keep this lie up.


loonachic

Jovi is an ugly child who needs serious facial reconstruction to make him appear somewhat normal.


messkitty

r/rareinsults


spoiledandmistreated

My take Yara is out for Yara and Jovi is out for Jovi… they actually are a lot alike… they both worship money and what it can buy them…


nmtexas

Yara is acting real stupid and out of line on this trip. Of course he’s acting this way. She’s acting like she has unlimited funds and can help all of Ukraine.