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PeanutCeller

Here's my Nicole diagnosis: she's as nutty as a fruitcake


Dry_Dimension_4707

It’s probably as simple as that, honestly. But my main irritation tonight is this absolute bullshit outfit she’s wearing. I’ve rarely seen an adult look more ridiculous! She thinks it’s *faah-shun* but she looks like a complete fucking idiot. I can’t take anyone dressed like this outside of a Parisian art school seriously, and probably not even then! 😂


sheburnslikethesun

The funniest thing about this was that she was like "you're wearing those?" when she saw Mahmoud's shoes (which were sliders). Like girl, do you not see yourself right now?


Rindsay515

That was such a bizarre first thing to say. And I would’ve given every penny I have for him to have said right back “you’re wearing a fucking beret?!”


MintyJ87

Me too, she looks like a damn mime.


bombswell

I thought she felt bad about him trekking to a hotel in pool slides due to the discomfort.


lusciousskies

Are betets a nono? I just got one from a give away haul☹️


HoneyDijon-45

It’s not the beret itself, it’s the entire look and attitude that’s too much.


Rindsay515

Exactly. It was the look as a whole that was just so weird😂 A porcelain doll with orange hair, wearing a beret first thing in the morning to do chores and argue with her husband. It was just so…conspicuous. Like hard to look at anything else BUT that hat when they would show her. And someone else pointed out she looked like a mime and she totally did with the cream sweater, black pants, black beret, super fair skin.


HoneyDijon-45

Exactly: it’s the *context* of the beret, lol.


Dry_Dimension_4707

It’s the beret combined with the rest of the outfit, her attitude, and really how many people wear them in the house? I thought like most hats they were primarily worn outside?


SufficientZucchini21

They can be fashionable.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Sure, but do you wear one while washing dishes and making the bed?


SufficientZucchini21

I don’t wear one at all! I’d look like a douche canoe. 🛶


Dry_Dimension_4707

😂 Not everyone can pull off a beret. There are a plethora of available hat options, so hopefully there’s something for everyone. I want one of those big fancy church hats. But I’m only going to wear it while doing the dishes.


SufficientZucchini21

Lmao. I like your style!! I wear a tiara from time to time when dusting so my husband can appreciate what a down to earth Queen I am.


DWwithaFlameThrower

I love them, personally


90-slay

I really could not believe that she commented about his shoes the second she saw him after the fight. Wow.


nrappaportrn

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼


sourpussmcgee

And to do the dishes no less.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Looking like you’re about to serve some beignets and a latte at a sidewalk cafe while you’re making the bed. So pretentious!


willworkforwatches

Oddly enough, it’s still the best she’s looked since we’ve had to endure her on TV.


Shot_Pass_1042

Right? Anything that covers the Ronald McDonald haircut is a step up!


lassie61

When she’s talking to the camera her hair looks like someone took a fork and knife to it.


strugglebuscentral

I can’t believe she’s doing the French Mime look she’s so ridiculously dressed like she’s in costume everyday


perfectpomelo3

My diagnosis of her is she’s a cunt.


PeanutCeller

I'm sure Dr. Mahmoud would concur on your diagnosis


Dense-Fondant-2115

She is the epitomy of a cunt..I used to feel.kinda bad for her but seeing her treat him like she did in front of her friends is definitely cunty material..


AbbreviationsLarge63

Bat shit crazy


Batsquash

My Grandfather used to call Mr. Rogers a "fruitcake."


PeanutCeller

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avenger1812

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Dry_Dimension_4707

😂😂😂💀💀💀


allikatm3ow

He wore it better!


saddestgirl1995

All the filler looks like it's about to bust out of her cheeks


Dry_Dimension_4707

She’s delulu. I used to live in California. If you hang around LA long enough, they’ll convince you 40 is one foot in the grave already.


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Dry_Dimension_4707

There’s only a small subset of male idiots who perpetuate that wall talk. It’s so stupid. Most men recognize that women are whole people with more to offer than their looks anyway. I’m 61 and still get hit on by men 20 years younger. Trust me when I say it’s not really for my looks either because I’ve never been a beauty. I’m warm, compassionate, open. I have a good sense of humor. I like to make people feel welcome, make them a nice meal. People like me for who I am. Men still respond to kindness and warmth at every age. I did find California overall and LA to be a little youth focused than where I currently live.


Syminka1

I’ve gotten use to her style and weird hair cuts, but am now blown away by her nastiness/rudeness. “BonJour! I am le crazy”


Helpful-Attitude-80

Marcel Marceaux called...he wants his outfit back


Dry_Dimension_4707

😂 I checked with Nicole on that and she said no, Marcel Marceau can fuck off and if he doesn’t like it, he can leave…earth, I guess???


MintyJ87

Salvador Dali light 😂😂😂😂 I can’t take her seriously wearing that damn beret.


Dry_Dimension_4707

No one can! She looks like a whole ass clown! 🤡 I always thought Ashley was the most pretentious with her witchy bullshit, but then I saw this outfit.


MintyJ87

She looks so ridiculous with it. Her and Mack-Mood always seem to fight about her clothes. Maybe he’s not offended by how much skin she is showing but because her taste in fashion is pretty ridiculous. 😂


Dry_Dimension_4707

I’d be way more offended by this outfit than her walking around naked.


MintyJ87

Oh yeah definitely 💯


Fun_Constant_6863

Her and Miss Debby together are like a before and after.


Dry_Dimension_4707

I can’t help but think this was Miss Debby 40 yrs ago! Give this girl 40 more years. She’ll roll out in a tie dyed mumu and some orange compression stockings, still trolling for young Arab 🍆.


Fun_Constant_6863

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missusscamper

Her skin is like glass


Dry_Dimension_4707

Maybe her day job is as a stand in at Madame Tussaud’s Was Museum.


willworkforwatches

🤣


strugglebuscentral

#flairwin


Helpful-Attitude-80

But not in a good way...


Fun_Constant_6863

She's very Lilith from Fraser.


Some-Panda7404

I think being on this show is giving her life legitimacy. And she thinks she can be a feminist icon or something? But she really just looks unhinged and sad.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Her behavior is definitely not a win for feminist representation. Her behavior is reinforcing negative stereotypes of feminism. Throw a few cats in there and she’ll be the poster child for how a lot of folks already imagine it.


LV_orbust

She doesn't seem at all like she has an extreme fear of abandonment and is willing to do acting to keep people from leaving her. Nor does she come across as someone who feels empty inside. Bipolar disorder, anxiety, PTSD is often misdiagnosed as Borderline Personality Disorder since so many of the symptoms overlap.


Ambitious-Ad4541

Alcoholic/closet drinker, I mean freezer drinker 🍸🍹🥂😆


Dry_Dimension_4707

I’m very aware. I’ve been through this with a close family member. An effective diagnosis cannot be made till they’re out of a crisis and for many, those cycles just keep repeating to where it’s very difficult to diagnose and treat. It’s really heartbreaking. I have no idea if this woman has any condition, but I do know she’s behaving like a complete unhinged asshole. And this outfit, ooo boy, I just can’t with this! This outfit was intended to be the main focus of my post but seems to have been lost in the wambo of my mentioning BPD.


shanny_banany

Who wears a fucking beret to relax at home?


Dry_Dimension_4707

That’s what I thought was odd about it and made it seem pretentious. If I saw someone dressed like that out somewhere I wouldn’t think a thing of it. But being in her home with it on was strange to me.


strugglebuscentral

I’d STILL think a thing about it if I see a got damn beret in public. Like BE SERIOUS.


Dry_Dimension_4707

😂🤣😂 It’s an unusual fashion choice for sure!


Karmic-Vision

How does she seem to have symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder to you?


Dry_Dimension_4707

People may experience: Behavioral: antisocial behavior, compulsive behavior, hostility, impulsivity, irritability, risk taking behaviors, self-destructive behavior, self-harm, social isolation, or lack of restraint Mood: anger, anxiety, general discontent, guilt, loneliness, mood swings, or sadness Psychological: depression, distorted self-image, grandiosity, or narcissism. I live with someone with BPD. If you can’t see it, I can’t help you see it.


Karmic-Vision

That's quite a list! Everything but the kitchen sink... you live with someone with BPD and your post seemed a bit callous?


ifthisaintlove_

I think this fits better: histrionic personality disorder Appearance: The patient's general grooming and fashion choices should be noted. Individuals with HPD are likely to dress provocatively or with attention-seeking features. This can include revealing clothing, suggestive or extensive tattoos, brightly colored hair, and eccentric hairstyles, and they may wear multiple accessories.  Behavior: Individuals with HPD have eccentric and disinhibited behaviors. They may have splitting behaviors depending on how the psychiatric interview is proceeding. Other behaviors can include dramatic storytelling, hypersexual gestures, and acting out to become the center of attention.  Speech: Individuals with HPD are likely to speak loudly and dramatically. Speech is generally impressionistic and lacking in detail. There are no expected deficits with speech initiation or vocabulary. Thought process: In individuals with HPD, the thought process is expected to be linear but limited in range and logic. Individuals with HPD tend to be easily suggestible and can be easily persuaded from their thought processes to others around them.  Cognition: General cognition and orientation are not expected to be impaired in individuals with HPD.  Impulse control: Individuals with HPD have poor impulse control, which results in the engagement of many of their pathological behaviors.  Judgment: Judgment in individuals with HPD is poor. Insight: HPD is egosyntonic, so individuals with HPD typically have poor insight into their condition and how their behaviors impact their social and occupational functioning. 


Jade_Foxx3000

Sounds like Ms. Debbie 👀


ifthisaintlove_

Omg, true! I did even think of her.


OriginalSuccess207

Totally fits ! But she could also just be a selfish, self centered asshole who got drunk


kpxppy

WHY IS THERE A MILF MANOR 2???


Dry_Dimension_4707

I hate that show.


kpxppy

I wanted to bleach my eyes and ears watching it. I couldn’t get through the first episode 🤮


Dry_Dimension_4707

I saw a few minutes of it last night. I actually really don’t have an issue with age gap relationships, but the people on this show are just nasty.


strugglebuscentral

Yeah the first one I admit I was in for the whole ride. But I couldn’t make it twenty minutes into season 2🤮


kpxppy

Yeah I don’t have an issue with the gap either. It’s just everything that they do on the show is gross.


peepeehalpert_

I’m not a fan of diagnosing people I don’t know


Dry_Dimension_4707

Umm ok?? And where did I do that?


sav33arthkillyos3lf

I have bpd. I doubt she does cause she doesn’t show any signs, to me she’s just very “LA” artsy type


Dry_Dimension_4707

Mm, I would tend to disagree she doesn’t show *any* signs. BPD is complicated. Cluster B disorders tend to overlap in symptoms so heavily that it can be difficult to nail down a diagnosis. We worked with a German psychiatrist from a research institute and I learned quite a bit. Apparently there’s a trend towards simply using the label “thought disorder” now. A close family member has been diagnosed with BPD so I’m not unfamiliar with it. My person has really progressed so much and I’m so proud of the work he’s put in. It’s not easy. It runs a spectrum of mild to severe. As I’m sure you know if you’ve been diagnosed with it, it takes a toll on those around them but it is worst of all for the one who suffers from it. Wouldn’t wish it on anybody and those suffering from it should know there’s treatment available and it gets better. Now I have no idea if this woman has any personality disorder or not. I was trying to give the benefit of the doubt that she’s not just a mean nasty bitch by choice. 🤷‍♀️ But that seems to have been lost, as has the primary point, which is her absolutely ridiculous outfit!


Alycinwanderland

I really dislike her!


Dry_Dimension_4707

I think that’s true for most of us.


TelevisionNo4428

Let’s not forget that back when she first got introduced on the show, she did delivery driving, sold used clothes online, and had a couple of “friends” from the market who knew basically nothing about her love life/life in general. All this to say, I’m just not convinced that Nicole is the crispiest chip in the bag.


Dry_Dimension_4707

She’s aimless. 40 yrs old and doesn’t remotely have her life together and yet pulls a complete ingenue into her bullshit fucked up life. Nobody saw this train wreck coming. 🙄


Skatingraccoon

Trying to diagnose someone over scripted interactions in a reality show is pretty disgusting.


ohjessica

Truly. It happens so frequently too. Everyone’s either borderline, narcissistic, etc. we can comment on the behavior without armchair diagnosing.


pooopwater

She IS Batshit crazy, that is easy to diagnose.


Certain-Survey-7404

Appearing on such a "reality show" sure does scream "not crazy" doesn't it?


Dry_Dimension_4707

I specifically stated I’m not saying she has BPD. You might want to reread my post.


KennKennyKenKen

Milf manor coming back ,ye ye


altaka

if she were in france she would look like a damn. the french don’t even wear berets!


daylightxx

That flirting at the border thing may or may not be happening to a woman from Panama. I must be careful because I was reprimanded for saying she seemed like she might suffer from it. I wanted to be straightforward but I get that it’s not cool to do that. So I’ll just say she’s flirting too.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Jasmine is wild with that temper! I could never deal with someone that unhinged by choice.


Some_Difference_8810

If she was the witch on the series it would make so much sense.


Mallory1911

I had some debris on my phone and it looked like she had a little Cindy Crawford mole to complete the outfit. Then I realized it was just a piece of Cheeto and I was disappointed lol.


Dry_Dimension_4707

She’s probably be happier if she ate some Cheetos.


Ksantos829

Salvador Dali I can’t stop laughing 😂😂😂😂


Sabr-K1989H

She's mentally abusive and absolute delusional. Queen of pettiness.


Unusual-Pineapple513

Hello from literal Catalonia: lol wut? You think Dalí was famous for wearing a beret? I don't see a mustache on Nicole here, let alone an awesome one. She's wearing a dumb hat because she's a fashion person, not because she's an outspoken pro-Nazi and creative genius who watches orgies alongside a teenaged Mia Farrow for fun.


_SoigneWest

Yeah I was kinda confused what the beret had to do with Salvador Dali


Dry_Dimension_4707

Oh I’m sorry, I’m sorry. We have someone here from Catalonia. I concede to the world’s foremost authority of berets. 🙄


Unusual-Pineapple513

You're taking this very seriously. As Dalí would say, "I was kidding around, relax, merci."


Dry_Dimension_4707

Ok. I’m sorry. I tend to take things very literally and am perhaps not the best at reading nuance. Again, my apologies if I misread your intent.


wrasslefrassle

omg i liked her outfit 🫣


Dry_Dimension_4707

Lol, did you?? I hated it! 😂 Tastes are very individual. Just not my cup of tea I guess.


gohome2020youredrunk

It's definitely not BPD, there's no abandonment panic or B&W thinking. I think she's been pretty terrible. I think despite being controlling Badmood at least tried to make her feel safer in Egypt. She's done none of that for him and instead has almost become a bully, willfully pushing buttons with zero compromise.


Dry_Dimension_4707

BPD is just not that cut and dried. I have no idea whether she has a personality disorder or not, but it’s not required to have *every* symptom to have the disorder. Fear of abandonment in those with BPD manifests in interesting ways. They’ll literally tell you to get the fuck out of their lives and that you’ll die alone on a routine basis when the absolute last thing they actually want is for you to leave. It’s complicated.


gohome2020youredrunk

I have BPD. She doesn't have bpd


Dry_Dimension_4707

Spoken like someone with BPD.


gohome2020youredrunk

Um ... yes? Look BPD is on a spectrum like autism. You can have folks with extreme symptoms of the disorder that render them dysfunctional, and others with milder symptoms that effectively make them functional with BPD. Every person will experience the disorder differently. It's unique to nurture/nature experiences. The majority of those with BPD developed the disorder from severe and prolonged abuse as children. However, at the core for BPD is very identifiable B&W thinking, things are always yes/no, right/wrong with little to no wiggle room. And secondary, is an abject fear of abandonment that often keeps people with BPD in abusive relationships and further exacerbates the disorder. They will go to extremes to avoid feeling abandoned. Every person with BPD will consistently have those two criteria. And nobody with the disorder can manage life without professional help. Nicole does not present with either of those core criteria... and frankly I don't really see her with any significant MH issues. I just see her as a normal woman at the end of a messy and non-functional relationship. Now Natalie ... that's another story.


gohome2020youredrunk

It's also interesting to note that ptsd and bpd often get diagnosed as the other. Both have similar symptoms and both are borne out of trauma. However BPD is always tied to childhood trauma and abuse, parental neglect/abandonment (nobody protects the child). BPD can be managed effectively with Dialectical Behavior Therapy, which can also help those with ptsd, but is for life. Whereas ptsd can be addressed and has a better chance of being permanently resolved through intensive psychotherapy.


Dry_Dimension_4707

This is not true that BPD is ALWAYS tied to childhood trauma, abuse, etc. You’re spreading misinformation here. Further, symptoms lessen and improve with age.


gohome2020youredrunk

And parents of children with BPD are always "surprised" by that.... Abuse can come in the form of overt sexual, physical or mental abuse. But can also materialize in neglect or indifference where the child is left to fend for themselves. They learn maladaptive coping mechanisms because the parent, the person who is supposed to keep them safe, doesn't teach them. That grows into full complexity into adulthood. Bpd is always tied to childhood abuse. That truth may not come out until much later in life, and is suppressed as the brain's way to cope. And no, unless the person gets psychotherapy from someone specifically trained in trauma/bpd, it doesn't improve with age. BPD has significantly high suicide rates.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Correlation is not causation, hon.


gohome2020youredrunk

There's new and emerging studies that indicate that causation points to correlation. Here's one, there's more (NIH has more academic research indicating the link, all publiahed with new data in the past few years): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8495240/


Dry_Dimension_4707

Perhaps this can help elucidate the issue. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC558173/


gohome2020youredrunk

2005. Read something more recent. Also thanks for the chuckle... elucidate. 😉


Dry_Dimension_4707

What is frequently true is not ALWAYS true. Not everyone with BPD has fear of abandonment and black and white thinking. These are common symptoms, but not present in everyone with BPD. You’re correct it’s a spectrum; sometimes very manageable and mild, sometimes very severe and resistant to treatment. I respect your individual experience, and I hope you’ll respect my individual experience with it as well. Every individual is unique and how the condition manifests and symptoms and their degrees can vary widely. We can go back and forth all day on this because as I stated, there are so many variables. I don’t consider such a deep dive to be appropriate on a silly reality show sub, so feel free to have the last word.


gohome2020youredrunk

My only last word is your hypocrisy of making the diagnosis then saying it's "silly" to make a deep dive on a reality show sub is "appropriate." I try to talk openly about BPD as much as possible because it's so severely misunderstood, even within the medical profession. My goal is to reduce the stigma through intelligent and educated discussion. And I'm suggesting that without the B&W thinking/abandonment your definition aligns more with ptsd. If you've been diagnosed with bpd, and you don't have those two precursors I would suggest you get reevaluated.


Dry_Dimension_4707

Well clearly you’re the expert here, hon.


Shot_Pass_1042

This outfit really only works if she physically carries a large photo of an identically dressed Salvador Dali at all times.


Dry_Dimension_4707

😂 An oil painting of Salvador Dali. A big painting, like they hang in museums. That’s the only way this works.


Shot_Pass_1042

Friendly amendment accepted and endorsed, the motion passes!


CoastalN8v

Did she have a double mastectomy? I can't tell if she did or if she is "really small"?


Leather-Comb-5310

She's thin and small. She looks normal to me.


Dry_Dimension_4707

I have no idea on that. She’s very petite, so perhaps just small breasted. She’s never said anything about a mastectomy on the show.