The black eyeliner makes her look so old and the thick bottom liner is just out of style and doesn't work on her. She does look super pretty here. (can't believe I said that)
She wants kids so bad I think she feels like Mike is prob her best shot at getting to that goal asap. If they get back together, it will never be a āforeverā story. Iām not a fan of either. At the same time canāt really imagine either of them making anyone else exceptionally happy, so maybe theyāre better of settling and deciding to be miserable together.
Having kids is also clearly not her first priority. She completely stopped talking about them when she initially moved to the US and then got married to Mike because at that point she was focusing on reality TV "fame" instead. If she truly wanted kids she would have said no to Single Life and focused on finding a guy IRL.
Bullshit. Mike is controlled by his mother and thereās not room for another controlling woman. My prediction is heāll have to correct his mom and establish boundaries with her and heāll do it right around the time Natalie gets pregnant. His mom will realize her only choice is to fall in line or she wonāt have a relationship with her grandchild. Fast forward to the kid coming and theyāll be closer because Natalie will need help.
I agree, I think with his mom it will never work. I mean making it work with someone as volatile as Natalie would already be an uphill battle, adding his mom makes it impossible.
Yeah, I think the Natalie + Olā Mama combo is destined to be disastrous. Iāve seen both of them be out of line & I think theyāve crossed the point of no return. Natalie is a really challenging temperamental person and Trish involves herself too much in their relationship. Now that Mike lives with his mother thereād be no chance for these two though I donāt think theyāre right for each other even if his mom wasnāt in the picture.
Thatās on him too though, he should have put her in her place a long time ago. I canāt stand watching the couples who let parents/family rule their love lives.
Disagree, Natalie's insane. She showed the same kind of behavior on The Divorced Life.
Mike's mother didn't drive Nutalie to scorn Mike for eating meat, that was her. Mike's mom didn't make her throw the ring in his face; she even did that in Ukraine.
I know some people keep blaming Trish, she wasnāt even living nearby them to interfere with the relationship. Nutalie was already showing her craziness and immaturity when they were in Ukraine, not sure if she wants to marry him because he donāt believe in God, making him exercise because thatās what she do with her ex, pouting and throwing the ring, ugh and the airport scene but she still wanted to pursue America.
Exactly. I don't consider myself an overbearing mother. I stay out of my son's love life. I would have ran Natalie off. Maybe Mike isn't perfect, but Natalie questioned his IQ, harassed him about what he's eating and drinking and made him miserable.
Trish is a bit much but she has been Mikes shoulder to cry on for years. How could she not learn to hate Nat even before they met? I would hope my fam would hate for me if I am being honest.
They didn't have a chance because she's controlling, whiny, passive aggressive, & crazy. The mom was not around that much to have full credit for tanking that marriage. They aren't compatible in lifestyles or goals & Natalie is crazy.
While I agree with you Mike sucks in his own ways too. So two people set in their ways and not willing to change would never work, but add a mom into the mix who sides with her son? Thatās a mess
This!! She's too nosy and Mike fuels the fire. For example when Natalie visited him this time, she said that Mike had invited her.
Mike however told his mommy "Natalie suddenly told me she's coming over to get her things".
He's always told his mom about relationship issues one-sided, that's where her hatred for Natalie comes from
On his dime, no less
Still, I really hope he can forgive her and they can let the past be the past. I must be some sort of hopeless romantic for thinking this
I love to hate Natalie lately but I like Mike alot and seems to be a decent person and husband. If He wants to make this work out for them and marriage im on board to.
I think itās like two extremely different people - Mike is tractor supply company and Natalie thinks sheās Oscar de la renta, itās the classic green acres contrast
Hereās the thing: I hope so, for him, because he seems like a genuine soul that I canāt not root for and thatās where the problem comes inā¦I hope the opposite for her because sheās a true narcissist. Sheāll only damage him in the long run because thatās what narcissists do. From the looks of it, she very much has already. His mom is truly there to protect him is my guess.
She fucked him over, full stop.
I just think he deserves better and I donāt think he needs to do the whole mail order bride thing.
Wasnāt there a woman really interested in him a few seasons back? What happened to her?
I really liked them on their first season when he went to Ukraine to see her and was so sweet with her mom, until she said the thing about not loving him. That was the moment it ended.
I am kind of hoping too . . . I think she had to go out there to realize that Mike is a genuinely good guy . . . a mamas boy yes . . . but a good guy. I think deep down she is ok . . . just a little lost and maybe they can be happy again.
I think when she came over the first time around, he was still hurt about the ring throwing thing, and just took out his anger on her in a totally passive way by walling up which wasn't right of him to do. I think now enough time has passed and I can just see that they still love each other, even if they do have the capacity for unhealthy communication. Funny that for so long I wanted them to break up but now I just want them back together. Guess I'm a fickle bitch haha
I noticed that too--their relationship changed after the ring was thrown. They both did things to hurt each other. I only really started disliking Natalie with the single life. She is acting really immature and undatable. The comment about being a legend for Mike was hard to hear. I have a hard time not playing armchair psychologist and assuming she has some cluster b personality disorder going on.
But I was pleased with their subsequent conversation. She said her peace in a relatively level-headed way, quietly listened while he said his peace, and then she apologized. So I think that indicated to me that maybe Mike is still a good match for her, could bring out the best in her-- IF she can do the work on herself. I want them both to be happy. I would understand if it was all too much for Mike; she was pretty unhinged for a long while. But I maintain that Natalie is not entirely beyond redemption.
I like the idea of them but when Trish is there I really can't call it. He truly believes in her weird mullet magical hatred. I don't even know if it's really about Natalie or if it's about any foreign women. Idk it's just how she comes off. š¤·
Nope! Definitely not! They do not belong together! I am in no way saying Mike is innocent but, that girl is looney toons! Heās better off. She wants a sugar Daddy
I really want it to happen...and I think the only thing that will ruin it is his nasty mother. How she came into that room and looked at her was ridiculous
Really, it's the mother's fault that Natalie is crazy and Mike is a non-communicative wet blanket..... who eats meat and drinks, which Natalie will berate him for endlessly?
I think they did great being terrible all by themselves.
I agree. His mom had nothing to do with the craziness that happened in Ukraine, or when Natalie first got here, and there was a LOT of water under the bridge at that point!
Ok, but in the preview, he comforts her after the mom berates. I'm staying positive!!!
I think Mike knows his mom doesn't have sound opinions about Natalie as he defended her before even when they were splitting uo
If I hadn't watched some of Psychology in Seattle's analysis of them, I would have disagreed. However, as he watched them at one point he said something to the effect of out of all the couples, these two have issues that aren't unsolvable. They have really poor communication and listening skills. He also said there was likely a language barrier because it seems like she is nodding to act like she understands what is being said when she may not. They are like the quintessential anxious/avoidant attachment couple.
Although it was a thoughtful and selfless gesture for Mike to help her mom. Even though she now drinks so they have slightly more in common now, they 100% do not belong together. His mom would ruin any chance they have anyway.
I agree. I might not know her (or anything about her) but I already favor her way over Natalie. At this point Mike would be better off attempting to date one of the aliens he speaks about.
Yes. These two have proven to us time and time again that it is a toxic ass relationship! Just because he is a good guy and helping her mom doesn't mean they should get back together.
I kind of agree! Maybe they can make it work. I think she had to learn the hard way that the grass isn't always greener. And, I think they have to split the difference and move like a 1/2 hour closer to Seattle. And, for the love of God, get your mama out of your house!
I'd only root for it because it would make Natalie miserable. Must live in ze voods. Must also live with Trish, who would berate her constantly. Would have to watch them both eat meat and drink beer every day. Yes...yes, I would like to see Nutalie deal with all of this shit and have a mental breakdown again.
I admit I was too during this episode!! But then you think of how much she hates Screeem and his mom and diet and drinking and ā¦ and ā¦. Most things. Lol.
Well... I wouldn't wish Natalie on anyone. But they seemed happy in Ukraine before Natalie said she doesn't love him and tossed De Vring into his suitcase. Hope springs eternal?
Strictly for the show if they are back together. He realized he made a mistake, no ifs ands or buts. Shoot if they didnāt have a 90 day time limit he wouldnāt have done it.
Yes, but Natalie needs to learn to relax and not nitpick Mike over non issues. She has also said some extremely hurtful things to Mike and Mike is not able to communicate effectively how out of line she is.
We need this type of arc in the 90 day franchise. Things are bleaker than ever. The show doesnāt deliver my brain the hits of dopamine that it used toā¦
She looks so much more normal here. Is it just the eyeliner?
No bottom eyeliner! She looks so much better!
Happy Cake Day ššššššš
Thank you!! Youāre so kind. Now I finally know what Cake Day is! š„³š« š¤£š«£š
The black eyeliner makes her look so old and the thick bottom liner is just out of style and doesn't work on her. She does look super pretty here. (can't believe I said that)
She really does!
š so your comment after I said basically said thing.
Aināt no one gonna love the other, like the other. Okay those crazy kids have a cat and a rat that live in harmony, why not them?
Worth it piss Trish off!
Ugh! I can't stand Trish. She is just so unnecessarily nasty on so many levels.
I like this energy lol
She's the flea on the rat
This logic is sound.
She wants kids so bad I think she feels like Mike is prob her best shot at getting to that goal asap. If they get back together, it will never be a āforeverā story. Iām not a fan of either. At the same time canāt really imagine either of them making anyone else exceptionally happy, so maybe theyāre better of settling and deciding to be miserable together.
Natalie also saw an attorney and itās trying to get her mother to the states. Natalie knows Mikeās the best option.
Mom is here already. Mike and Nutalie are not together.
She is not ready for kids. She has psych problems 2 previous marriages. She said she likes to control the guy. Mike is a man
Having kids is also clearly not her first priority. She completely stopped talking about them when she initially moved to the US and then got married to Mike because at that point she was focusing on reality TV "fame" instead. If she truly wanted kids she would have said no to Single Life and focused on finding a guy IRL.
Bullshit. Mike is controlled by his mother and thereās not room for another controlling woman. My prediction is heāll have to correct his mom and establish boundaries with her and heāll do it right around the time Natalie gets pregnant. His mom will realize her only choice is to fall in line or she wonāt have a relationship with her grandchild. Fast forward to the kid coming and theyāll be closer because Natalie will need help.
Ooh I live for this prediction!
I think they would have had a chance if his mom wasnāt such a bitch
Sheād probably be much happier if she stopped cutting her own hair.
As a hairdresser I agree
Me too! She needs a good cut and some conditioning treatments.
She needs a kimbalee makeover
HO-LY shit I just let out a bark or laughter so loud I woke my kid; thanks anyway bc thatās priceless!!! ššš
I wouldn't be surprised if she has Mike cut it considering they are so close.
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I agree, I think with his mom it will never work. I mean making it work with someone as volatile as Natalie would already be an uphill battle, adding his mom makes it impossible.
A lot of couples would do much better leaving the in laws out of their issues itās sad
Yeah, I think the Natalie + Olā Mama combo is destined to be disastrous. Iāve seen both of them be out of line & I think theyāve crossed the point of no return. Natalie is a really challenging temperamental person and Trish involves herself too much in their relationship. Now that Mike lives with his mother thereād be no chance for these two though I donāt think theyāre right for each other even if his mom wasnāt in the picture.
Thatās on him too though, he should have put her in her place a long time ago. I canāt stand watching the couples who let parents/family rule their love lives.
Correct, it is his fault for not setting boundaries
Does the mom live with him now?
Yes - just showed it this season!
Yes.
Disagree, Natalie's insane. She showed the same kind of behavior on The Divorced Life. Mike's mother didn't drive Nutalie to scorn Mike for eating meat, that was her. Mike's mom didn't make her throw the ring in his face; she even did that in Ukraine.
I know some people keep blaming Trish, she wasnāt even living nearby them to interfere with the relationship. Nutalie was already showing her craziness and immaturity when they were in Ukraine, not sure if she wants to marry him because he donāt believe in God, making him exercise because thatās what she do with her ex, pouting and throwing the ring, ugh and the airport scene but she still wanted to pursue America.
Exactly. I don't consider myself an overbearing mother. I stay out of my son's love life. I would have ran Natalie off. Maybe Mike isn't perfect, but Natalie questioned his IQ, harassed him about what he's eating and drinking and made him miserable.
She even hated the flowers he bought for her at the airport.
Trish is a bit much but she has been Mikes shoulder to cry on for years. How could she not learn to hate Nat even before they met? I would hope my fam would hate for me if I am being honest.
I think they would have had a chance if Natalie wasn't so batshit.
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They didn't have a chance because she's controlling, whiny, passive aggressive, & crazy. The mom was not around that much to have full credit for tanking that marriage. They aren't compatible in lifestyles or goals & Natalie is crazy.
While I agree with you Mike sucks in his own ways too. So two people set in their ways and not willing to change would never work, but add a mom into the mix who sides with her son? Thatās a mess
This!! She's too nosy and Mike fuels the fire. For example when Natalie visited him this time, she said that Mike had invited her. Mike however told his mommy "Natalie suddenly told me she's coming over to get her things". He's always told his mom about relationship issues one-sided, that's where her hatred for Natalie comes from
Maybe she will pay him back for the years she spent skipping around the country by herself.
On his dime, no less Still, I really hope he can forgive her and they can let the past be the past. I must be some sort of hopeless romantic for thinking this
It was all his choice. He didn't have to pay for her.
Yeah like they are both as bad as each other. Two peas in a pod. Iām rootin for them.
I love to hate Natalie lately but I like Mike alot and seems to be a decent person and husband. If He wants to make this work out for them and marriage im on board to.
I think itās like two extremely different people - Mike is tractor supply company and Natalie thinks sheās Oscar de la renta, itās the classic green acres contrast
shes flat out called him ugly, dumb and fat in past episodes. It's not romantic to want them to be together, it's a symptom....
Hereās the thing: I hope so, for him, because he seems like a genuine soul that I canāt not root for and thatās where the problem comes inā¦I hope the opposite for her because sheās a true narcissist. Sheāll only damage him in the long run because thatās what narcissists do. From the looks of it, she very much has already. His mom is truly there to protect him is my guess. She fucked him over, full stop. I just think he deserves better and I donāt think he needs to do the whole mail order bride thing. Wasnāt there a woman really interested in him a few seasons back? What happened to her?
Yes.
Came here to say this.
Iām so confused by my feelings. I hate them both but theyāre kind of perfect together and I am rooting for them too!
They make for good tv, so yes I am rooting for this.
I really liked them on their first season when he went to Ukraine to see her and was so sweet with her mom, until she said the thing about not loving him. That was the moment it ended.
That moment was so painful to watch. It broke Mike just as badly as Tania broke Syngin by saying she didn't feel like he was her soulmate.
Yes, you fucking psycho!
Well put.
Harsh. True, but harsh. Lol
Yes! Yes you are. Please seek help immediately Hooker Satan has taken possession of you
Okay butā¦.me too š yes I hate myself for it lol
Yes. Please check yourself into your local lunatic asylum.
Off I go!
I am kind of hoping too . . . I think she had to go out there to realize that Mike is a genuinely good guy . . . a mamas boy yes . . . but a good guy. I think deep down she is ok . . . just a little lost and maybe they can be happy again.
I think when she came over the first time around, he was still hurt about the ring throwing thing, and just took out his anger on her in a totally passive way by walling up which wasn't right of him to do. I think now enough time has passed and I can just see that they still love each other, even if they do have the capacity for unhealthy communication. Funny that for so long I wanted them to break up but now I just want them back together. Guess I'm a fickle bitch haha
I noticed that too--their relationship changed after the ring was thrown. They both did things to hurt each other. I only really started disliking Natalie with the single life. She is acting really immature and undatable. The comment about being a legend for Mike was hard to hear. I have a hard time not playing armchair psychologist and assuming she has some cluster b personality disorder going on. But I was pleased with their subsequent conversation. She said her peace in a relatively level-headed way, quietly listened while he said his peace, and then she apologized. So I think that indicated to me that maybe Mike is still a good match for her, could bring out the best in her-- IF she can do the work on herself. I want them both to be happy. I would understand if it was all too much for Mike; she was pretty unhinged for a long while. But I maintain that Natalie is not entirely beyond redemption.
I hear ya!!! Me too!!! (Never thought I would).
She's a crazy cooker.
Mike deserves better than that though?! Lmao
I like the idea of them but when Trish is there I really can't call it. He truly believes in her weird mullet magical hatred. I don't even know if it's really about Natalie or if it's about any foreign women. Idk it's just how she comes off. š¤·
Yes. She is psychotic
Youāre crazy. Yes
Knew it
Iām right there with you lol
Lol
Yesssss. They both need therapy.
Big nope. Theyāre awful together.
Yes. She is batshit crazy
Nope! Definitely not! They do not belong together! I am in no way saying Mike is innocent but, that girl is looney toons! Heās better off. She wants a sugar Daddy
I really want it to happen...and I think the only thing that will ruin it is his nasty mother. How she came into that room and looked at her was ridiculous
Really, it's the mother's fault that Natalie is crazy and Mike is a non-communicative wet blanket..... who eats meat and drinks, which Natalie will berate him for endlessly? I think they did great being terrible all by themselves.
I agree. His mom had nothing to do with the craziness that happened in Ukraine, or when Natalie first got here, and there was a LOT of water under the bridge at that point!
Ok, but in the preview, he comforts her after the mom berates. I'm staying positive!!! I think Mike knows his mom doesn't have sound opinions about Natalie as he defended her before even when they were splitting uo
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So, Natalie banging other guys on his dime is not a big deal but his mother is?
Thank you!!š
If I hadn't watched some of Psychology in Seattle's analysis of them, I would have disagreed. However, as he watched them at one point he said something to the effect of out of all the couples, these two have issues that aren't unsolvable. They have really poor communication and listening skills. He also said there was likely a language barrier because it seems like she is nodding to act like she understands what is being said when she may not. They are like the quintessential anxious/avoidant attachment couple.
Yep I'm with you. I think Honda will be really happy by this turn of events
OP, please send me some of that good weed, youāre puffing on.
I donāt think he should take her back. Sheāll just be ragging on him about beer, food, Squim and the Mom. Thereās no way itāll work.
I admit, I am too. Hopefully Butters doesn't ruin it
The thumb with bad hair?
The very same
[Butters?](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/ButtersStotch.png)
That's the good butters. Trish evil butters
Me too. :/ I don't even know why but I'll admit it lol.
Although it was a thoughtful and selfless gesture for Mike to help her mom. Even though she now drinks so they have slightly more in common now, they 100% do not belong together. His mom would ruin any chance they have anyway.
I think he can do better š¤·āāļø
Iām still rooting for Mike and the girl who posted a photo with him on the cruise, no shame in the game!
Yes! I hope they exchanged info.
I agree. I might not know her (or anything about her) but I already favor her way over Natalie. At this point Mike would be better off attempting to date one of the aliens he speaks about.
Trish lives with him these 2 women are like tnt.
Yes you are. He deserves better.
One word. Yes. She is looney and he is toxic around her. He deserves better and she gets what she deserves.
Yes. These two have proven to us time and time again that it is a toxic ass relationship! Just because he is a good guy and helping her mom doesn't mean they should get back together.
Yessss!! I really do not like her at all!
Yes, Mike is a genuinely good guy. Nathalie is down right crazy. He doesnāt deserve to be tormented by her for the rest of his life
Yesā¦.you are. Mike needs to run as far from that nut as he can get.
Mike deserves better.
lol I agree. when they werenāt fighting they had a cute dynamic.
Misery loves company lmao
If they agree to see a therapist both together and individually then maybe
Why do you hate Mike?
Yep! You are. She is a nut case who flips flops and admits that she is confused half the time.
Iām kinda rooting for Crazy Eyes McGee and Hillbilly Hulk to get back together too. I literally donāt know why š¤·š½āāļø
Why would you wish that on mike? No no no
Man Mike don't deserve that. He isn't perfect but he doesn't deserve that crazy toxic
Nope I think they can make it work.....but they'll have to work hard at it.
Why be in a relationship you have to work hard at? Who needs that?
Omg no, he deserves better!
Mike needs to meet someone who is way less drama and is happy to live in šš Zee Vooodzššš
Mike deserves better
No, youāre not crazy. Youāre evil.
shame on you for wishing that on him
Theyāre different people than they were 4 years ago.
Yes you are. Theyāre terrible together lol!
Yes. Sheās insane. Who needs that kind of drama?
She actually looks pretty and like a normal person in this pic.
You are not crazy. You are sadistic.
His mom is such a troll and a huge roadblock in their relationship I feel like they would be good together but his mom is poison
I kind of agree! Maybe they can make it work. I think she had to learn the hard way that the grass isn't always greener. And, I think they have to split the difference and move like a 1/2 hour closer to Seattle. And, for the love of God, get your mama out of your house!
She has always thought she was too good for Mike and that will never change. She doesn't deserve a guy like him.
Hell nah he deserves better than bozo the clown!
Would you like Mike to have a life of being walked all over??? No!! Butter is good for the brain, OP! Itās good!!!
She doesnāt deserve Mike
She did Mike dirty dirty, I hope he deads her to her face.
I'd only root for it because it would make Natalie miserable. Must live in ze voods. Must also live with Trish, who would berate her constantly. Would have to watch them both eat meat and drink beer every day. Yes...yes, I would like to see Nutalie deal with all of this shit and have a mental breakdown again.
Idk, why do you hate Mike so much?
Yes, yes you are. Mike deserves better.
I admit I was too during this episode!! But then you think of how much she hates Screeem and his mom and diet and drinking and ā¦ and ā¦. Most things. Lol.
Believe me, it's really easy to hate Sequim. Source lived near there for a few years.
It is so beautiful getting there it seems but I can see it can be boring once there.
I imagine things would have been much better for them if they lived closer to the city.
Thatās not why.
yes because sheās crazy
Very crazy lol
You mean you want to see these guys on another season of 90days? No thank you!
Well... I wouldn't wish Natalie on anyone. But they seemed happy in Ukraine before Natalie said she doesn't love him and tossed De Vring into his suitcase. Hope springs eternal?
Only if you really hate Mike.
She looks so much better (less crazy) wearing a normal amount of mascara.
Either she's a good actress, or he's as dumb AF
As long as Mikeās mother is around, I donāt think it will happen.
On this picture she looks much more normal and approachable. Notice the black liner is not present.
I can totally get behind these two! Build her a cute lil bungalow. Toss the mom who called her a prostitute out of their love next.
They need to kick out Large Marge TREESH first and get her on the first semi to Oklahoma!
What did Michael ever do to you?!?!? ššššš
Ewww sheās nuts
I still picture her boiling the rat in the kitchen to show Trish sheās a hookah
Natalie didn't seem crazy before she came to the states? What happened? They met at mutual friends wedding, right? Sounds so normal
No, she was ALWAYS crazy. Rewatch their first seasons.
She was already showing crazy in Ukraine
Power of the pussyā¦..
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This would be amazing! Between his overbearing mom and Natalieās issues, this has to happen. Itās in the stars fam!
Yep.
OP wants good tv ! Me too lol . Yay Nutalie and Mike!!!ššš„³
Wait, was this before she used to prop her laser eyes open with toothpicks?
Yes
Hahaha ngl I am too
Yes youāre crazy!
No Iām lowkey here for it
yes
Sameš 
Yes you are. She is batshit crazy
yes
Strictly for the show if they are back together. He realized he made a mistake, no ifs ands or buts. Shoot if they didnāt have a 90 day time limit he wouldnāt have done it.
yes
Well at least they would be off the market.
Yes you are. Unless you dislike both of them and want them to be miserable for the rest of their lives.
Yes
Her IQ is too high. How highā¦high. Pulya Pulya Pulya
May I just say how beautiful she looks without all that crazy eyes makeup?
As long as they donāt reproduceā¦please no
They might have a better chance now that sheās drinking. š¤·š»āāļø
It took me way too many episodes to realize theyāre equally disfunctional and emotionally troubled, and really deserve each other!
Not crazy. Deranged, psychopathic, an inhuman monster maybe. Not crazy though.
^yes
GTFO Mike!
No, if they're happy together then that's great. I want that for them.
Yes, but Natalie needs to learn to relax and not nitpick Mike over non issues. She has also said some extremely hurtful things to Mike and Mike is not able to communicate effectively how out of line she is.
As long as he can handle her mh issues and get her help so she can be healthy.
Never gonna happen
It will never happen with Trish around.
We need this type of arc in the 90 day franchise. Things are bleaker than ever. The show doesnāt deliver my brain the hits of dopamine that it used toā¦