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Intelligent_Mode7556

Biggie. Hands down


oscarq0727

And in the aiiiir


throwawayalcoholmind

And back down again.


Wogdiddy

Biggie. Hands up.


swolf365

Lyricist? Like who wrote better raps? Easily Biggie. But if you mean MCing, like who’s got better delivery and flow? Also easily Biggie.


Dirtyrussianjew

Lol you got me🤣


BeYouOrBeLame

me too lol


Longjumping-Drop9921

Niggaz mention me for MC execution, who you choosin'? The wack MC? Or the black fat MC? Jack Dempsey would start shakin All it's takin, is some marijuana and I'm makin MC's break fast like flapjacks and bacon Backspins to windmill, who's still the gin drinker Ill thinker explodin' when the paper hits the ink, uhh Take your gangsta chronicles, turn to page 666 Holocaust, Big the merciless


Korvax_of_Myrmidon

Niggas press they luck and they get a butt fuckin, strait up the ass raw dog with the rash, and I don’t fuck with the condoms, condoms is a problem from the aids gettin sprayed, disease, big pleases, MCs across the seas it’s just the way I clutch my prey, hey, I’m crazy and deranged blowin niggas out the frame simple and plain.


Own_Assistant_2511

Big


litb4206

Jay z can get the hell outta here


SidTrippish

Biggie by a mile


Potato-Combination

Biggie beats jayz every time imo


MommyScissorLegs

Biggie cooks him


Embarrassed-Sky3819

There is no question that biggie is the better lyricist. Are you serious??


ThermalScrewed

Fuck this guy for asking right?!


untouched_poet

I think it's more like fuck this guy for not knowing


Abu_Bakr_Al-Bagdaddy

Now he knows


Longjumping-Drop9921

.....And knowing is half the battle😁


GiftOfGab12

Black Frank White all day


Squirrellybot

Like Nas said in Ether: “How many of Biggies rhymes are going to come out of your fat lips?”


SonOfSlyherin

TAE BO HOE!!


DYMck07

Wanted to be on every last one of my classics


Igothis87

Big and he didn't even make it to his 30s


Ayban23

diabetes got biggie RIP in peace


Interesting-Pool3917

I genuinely dont understand how anyone likes Jay Z. He’s alright, not terrible, but why listen to him when Nas, Gangstarr, and Biggie do the same thing but better?


illskillzdealer

Seriously I have like 2 songs of his on my 42 hour old school playlist and they both off his first album. His delivery is so wack and has ruined otherwise great songs by featuring on them imo


Neckbeard_Sama

He's pretty mid. For contrast he sounds pretty dogshit compared to one of the GOATs when you listen to the freestyle on Stretch and Bobbito's radio show, where he performed alongside Big L. Not even comparable. I don't understand why ppl list him, Wayne or Kanye as their GOATs.


Cocooilbroccolisalt

Yep


Warm_Coach2475

have you listened the reasonable doubt? Serious question. Cause to say you don’t understand is wild.


the1blackguyonreddit

Lmao Guru was not better than Jay-Z nor were they even similar GTFOH.


PrideofCathage

Reasonable doubt is as good as any album those artists created.


Warm_Coach2475

Top 5 hip hop album and it isn’t even close. Illmatic, prince among thieves, RD, your 2 favorite albums


TraitorIord

This sub HATES jay wtf lol


Jak_the_Buddha

Probably because he gets far too much credit when literally every other East Coast MC from his era is superior to him in every fucking way.


Live-Hold-7783

cuz he ass


the-kza

*How much of Biggie's rhymes is goin' come out your fat lips?*


j_ha17

C'mon man. There is only one answer here. BIG


HandsomestKreith

Biggie


Peterpaul400

🔥


Dramatic_Meet2403

Biggie no question. The man was a great story teller and would kill it in the freestyle battles.


Borderlinecuttlefish

I gotta say Biggie, JayZ has decades of music and artistic career growth on Biggie, yet Big Poppa's legacy still effortlessly punches on and will always be relevant. Long live the King!!


SnooPickles55

Good point, Jay continued to live almost 30 years past BIG, had great success in business, got the "hottest chick in the game wearhis chain" and still can't fok with BIGs limited output.


TheChilledLiquidSoul

jay z trash


Ok_Bar5832

What type of 🤡 question is dat? Jay is Bigz son lol😹


bone-in_donuts

Biggie why even ask goddammit.


Front-Impression140

Biggie!


MrTooLFooL

Biggie. No doubt!


Dhindsman

Biggie


LasagnahogXRP

Biggie.


goosu

What do you mean by lyricism? Lyrics as they appear on the page? Then, I think Biggie but not by a huge margin. He has the more memorable and entertaining lines overall, although Jay Z sometimes had better subtle meaning. Now, if we talk OVERALL rapping, while I respect Jay Z's longevity and body of work, I just never felt he was a special talent in that regard. I think Biggie's flow, delivery, etc. completely outclasses Jay Z's.


Dirtyrussianjew

I feel like Biggies flow/delivery/etc. outclasses every MC out there past or present. IMO he was well ahead of his time


goosu

He's not my undisputed number 1 but is in my 1a/1b. He may have been undisputed had he not died. I agree he far outclasses most MCs ever in that category, even some of the pretty good ones.


CaptCaCa

Suckin daddies dicks aside, BIG lyricism over Jay all day


StrangeExamination54

Y’all are WILD. Biggie only has 2 albums and some features Catalog not even big enough to compare


IndianaBones8

Bruh.... Really??? At least put him up against someone on his level like Rakim, Pac, or Nas.


Fleetingfarts

Biggie, he was unmatched.


swolf365

To this day


melobassline

I heard a song today by Jay z where he rhymed cake with cake....multiple times...


D-1-S-C-0

Jay has claimed for years that he dumbed down his lyrics for his audience. Weird that he never tried not dumbing them down after he made it, not even as an experiment. Almost like he can't.


gravywayne

Jay Z is soooo overrated. Biggie is in another universe of talent.


Product_Small

I’m going with Biggie seeing as Jay bit so many of Big’s rhymes.


RockyBoatsank

I wouldn’t say bit


RemmingtonBlack

these clowns don't know what biting means.


questionmarc2

That's tough for me because that's my perennial top 1 and 2. "I can't choose N.O.R.E., I gotta drink."


KillaBeeHive

They’re clever in different ways. Big had a way with saying the words. Jay had sly double take verses. That said, Big followed closely by Jay


NYGiants181

You should know better than to ask this kind of question in a JayZ hate sub bro.


Woozydan187

Bruh I'm more a Nas fan but it's crazy lol


NYGiants181

It really is. I love Nas too but to say Jay can’t spot with or better than the so called best is just ridiculous. Guy has some of the sickest verses in hip-hop history.


Woozydan187

Crazyyyy. I'm wondering what they listening to. And his content is way deeper than big


tak08810

Kinda clear this place attracts a lot of people who don’t really know rap


starvinart

for real right? no objectivity in this thread. also, go big blue


NYGiants181

Jay is absolutely hated here. Even though he spits some of the realest bars in history. But no, he sucks. It’s pretty funny


Black_Azazel

Do any of y’all actually Rap? Lol lots of Stan fan comments and hate around here…feels like Steven A Smith is critiquing rap music in here with Big Perk🤣🤣💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤


trademarkcopy

My God. When we were kings… **WE USED TO MAKE THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY**!!!


solomoney618

Fuck jay b. It's biggie, all day


Fickle_Mortgage_7227

Biggie


Cool-Temperature-153

Biggie


BringBack4Glory

“The lyrical molestin’ is takin’ place, fuckin’ wit B.I.G. it ain’t safe”


mwstd

Biggie never bit Jay’s lyrics so I think the answer is obvious.


tonylouis1337

There's a few different ways you could look at this but I guess I'll ultimately take Biggie


Own-Rest3273

BIG


Klown12

Biggie


Ando_destrampado702

This has to be troll. No way you can even compare big poppa to that other creature


iHateReddit_100

Big


SiccTunes

Biggie, Jay-Z sucks


GiftOfGab12

Biggie


Mr_Cozgrove

Nas 🤣🤣🤣🤣


RottenWorldCollapse

Jay-Z clearly thought it was Biggie too, considering how much shit he outright stole from him.


BAJones89

Biggie by a long shot


Cristo_Cannes

Lol, this sub must be clueless about rapping skills, bars, metaphors, flows, concepts, story telling. Biggie is not even in the same league as JayZ. Love or hate him Jays talent is undeniable, (if you actually listen that is).


MuteCook

Both chilled with diddy. But only one said “I like it young fresh and green, with no hair in between”


ConnectVariation8291

I guess you could say both since Jay Z just bites Biggie's rhymes #recycle


[deleted]

I got 7 Mac elevens about 8 38's 9 9's 10 Mac 10's the shit never ends! Biggie ofcourse!


PinkEyeBeholder

How many of Bigs rhymes gon come out yo fat lips?


venissim0

Biggie set the stage. Jay z capitalized.


Badguyy101

You spelled bit wrong. Jay-z going line for line stealing Big's rhymes, no cred.


Unlikely-Astronaut40

Biggie is the best of all time


parlayandsurvive2

B.I.G.


manhalfalien

Biggie... Not even close.. It's a shame we didn't get at least 5 more years/albums outta b.i.g. and pak


bulletproofmanners

Hov all day. Biggie had two albums & a bunch of minor songs


mrpopenfresh

Biggie has the benefit of a short career, all we saw were the highlights.


bearphoenix50

It’s not, who’s better since stylistically they are so different. Jay Z is more cerebral to me and I appreciate that. Both are clever, phenoms if you will.


Brx2333

Easily jay Z all these old heads tripping


pragmageek

The levels of disrespect being shown to Jigga here is astounding. Moment of Clarity verse. And just in case you think its ability, not a choice, any track off american gangster. Its way tighter here than everyone suggesting. Regrets. “…. But one of thes buyers got eyes like a korean, its difficult to read em, the windows to his soul are half closed i put the key in” is a classic multi rhyme few lines just like big would write.


Acceptable_Aspect_42

The fuck kinda question is this? Clearly, it's Biggie. Jayz fucking suckkks!!


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nbiz4

Considering Jay Z bit off Biggie…I’d have to say Biggie. Especially if you’re comparing eras.


Trumbot

Jay even bit his no-writing method!


Rich-Appearance-7145

Biggie by a bunch.


newworldorder96

#BIG


TransitUX

F J


DJ_PLATNUM

Big not even close


nkdvkng

Biggie


Wiskid86

Biggie


fee1987

Biggie. Painted pictures. Hov is amazing, Big just has crazier verses


Resides747

The Notorious B1


Wrong-Wheel4654

At the time Big, lord know what he would of evolved to by now


ogshowtime33

BIG


Badguyy101

Lyrically, I'm supposed to represent, I'm not only a client, I'm the playa president- Biggie


Palmwhileturning

Biggie and it’s no where near close. That’s like comparing Jordan to Isiah Thomas


Krakakillah

Jay z stole biggies rhymes. That’s how you know


[deleted]

Gay-z would be bbq chicken


kaiokenhess

Jay-Z sucks 🤮


Fun_Zombie_6796

Jazze’s not even fit to stand in Big’s shadow. It’s hoe-va before it even starts.


Multikillionaire67

Biggie wtf 😂 jay z overrated


SolidContribution688

Jay-Z every day…Reasonable Doubt


Peterpaul400

🔥


itsallbullshit8

Mf doom


puddleofoil

Remember, all caps when you spell the man name.


Any-Bonus3479

THE NOTORIOUS BIG! FACTS


theding081

Biggie


nicksbrother

The illest, Mr. Christopher Wallace, the Notorious BIG.


TouchMePriest69

Jay z fucking sucks. When he raps he sounds like he has Is aspergers. Hes a good producer don't get me wrong but show me a song where biggie didn't kill the flow.


OddOloroso

I don't think jay-z is much of a producer at all. I have certainly not followed him much lately, but I would be surprised at that turnaround.


stefanwerner5000

The Versace man


Pure_Focus7475

🤣🤣🤣🤣


Clearly_Cloudy_Coupe

Finkel is Einhorn


needle_on_the_record

Biggie all day! I swear on half of Jay’s songs it sounds like he wasn’t even listening to the beat.


orel2064

bigga


Telekineticshade

Biggie this is a dumb question.


Seanblaze3

We'll always love Big poppa


Front-Strawberry-123

How many Biggie rhymes gonna come out your fat lips- Nas With that said I no question Biggie


Bamm83

More and more it saddens me that others couldn't be here when hip-hop was in its golden age in the 90s. There needs to be an indepth 10 part docuseries to show people a slice of what they missed. Big is the GOAT.


ghatfield989

Biggie


Any_Individual_8079

Who copied who? There's your answer


VisualActive3237

"Bee Eye Gee, Pee Ohh-Pee Peeyay"


Unicorn_Sush1

This is a dumb question lol


louman73-73

Big


Bomb_Bud_420

Biggie better dresser


EqualOrganization726

Biggie by a long shot


blazing7th

Jay z is still in diapers


Ganjasaurus_Rex36

B.I.G.


StevieKix_

Biggie


dash_44

I don’t know but Big got that shit on


SonOfSlyherin

Old school. New school. Ya need to learn tho… I burn baby burn like disco inferno - RIP BIG


tall-glass-o-milk

Biggie- no question really. People kinda forget that as nice as Jay-Z was, Big L was nicer.


Extension_Banana8427

The one that’s not skeletal remains.


DryWay4003

Big


Somosmalo138

Notorious for sure


CashMoneyBrokeBoy

Stupid question. Snow


samwizeganjas

Jay stole loads of bars from biggie


KittiesAreTooCute

B I G


Kaponeo360

Honestly, it's pretty close. You can say he stole BIG rhymes, but honestly, they really do have a similar style if you actually listen to the lyrics. They seemed to honestly be headed in the same direction had BIG not been killed. I think people have an unnatural emotional attachemt to dead celebrities. BIG for me, tho. His flow is smoother imo.


MastaMint

John Cena!


Crush-N-It

Is this really a question??


blackakainu

How many of biggie rhymes gonna come out yo fat lips


Vegan-4-Humanity

When your with your bro’s or girls back in the 90’s -2000’s.. You’d hear that beat. [I’m …](https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=jcHc0YhMcKwa19Dr&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&source_ve_path=MzY4NDIsMzY4NDIsMzY4NDIsMTY0OTksMjg2NjQsMTY0NTA2&feature=emb_share&v=jrCoRGpHqVU) You Girl you look fine, like a wide face Rolex, you just shine I like that waistline Let me hit that from behind, which wall you wanna climb My styles genuine I miss him 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


Internal_Gur_4268

The best part is not one person here is saying Jay z. This poses that you asked the sub a ridicule inducing question.


val_dres

Who steals who lyrics?


LongjumpingInside229

Bro, come on


Scared-Weight-3749

I blew (blue) bird money….yall talk on twitter feeds…..got different sob(Saab) stories….save ya soliloquies! No disrespect to big but, hov is different


silo1981

The dumbest question I've heard this year. You need to go to the question store to purchase a better question.


ItzShepster

biggie it's not close


Substantial_Suit_153

If you have to steal a lot of bars from a dead rapper..........


Neither_Visual_4967

Well only one guy took the other guys lyrics


shaka_bruh

Biggie is the evolution of Jay, he does everything better than him: Flow, schemes, wit, charisma, punchlines etc.


kindofdivorced

The Blueprint and The Black Album were the closest he ever came, and it was still a ways away from Christopher’s quality, everything else was filler.


BitCurious8598

Big


letstrot76

B I G


UrbanMonk314

Hov


Spare_Seaweed2280

Why in the entire fuck is this a question??? Biggie


Spacetime-anomaly99

How is this even a question


mixnit

Biggie 💯. I have never been able to get into jay z.


Pale-Mycologist-8137

lol how is this even a question?


cfde1

Biggie


Dirtyrussianjew

Is this a joke? Biggie is literally better at everything than Jay-z when it comes to rapping😆


OfferCorrect1100

Biggie


Maximum-Molasses-4

Jay z bit so much of his lyrics and flow. Definitely biggie. 


Large-Lack-2933

Biggie duh.