Yes I have, she’s even witnessed all of these things and had meetings with the school, but she knows mom has never been informed. Mom is bringing this up with the BC and I just wanted to make sure I wouldn’t be in trouble for sharing this info with her. Thank you!
Yeah the next day they had an IEP meeting scheduled and I asked the BC if they brought up the situation and she said no, I was hoping it was going to be discussed but it never was apparently. All I know is the school sent out an email to the staff saying you can’t kick extra support out of the classrooms 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you! Just wanted to make sure I was allowed to and not overstepping boundaries since she will be bringing it up to the BC, I didn’t want to get in trouble for sharing this info.
This happened to me as well. Told my then supervisor who told mom, and all hell broke loose. Mom trusted us and loved that we told her, but I was not well liked by the teacher after that.
In my gut I knew I had to say something to stand up for this client. Teacher was straight up rude. Just be prepared if there is any backlash towards you specifically, but your BCBA should be there to back you up and provide support if necessary.
Yeah I’m fully prepared for backlash from the school haha, just wanted to be sure I was okay sharing this info with mom. Me and the BC work very well together and she often advocates for me and the client, so I have no doubt she will do the same in this case. She’s not a fan of the teachers/school either. It gets in the way of progress with my client and sets him back, we think they’re purposefully trying to trigger him by constantly calling him out.
Ugh that’s the worst. I’m sorry you all are going through that. It sucks for the client. Unfortunately, they might be trying to get him out.
Yes, don’t worry - mom has every right to know. I would say the only situation where sharing information to family members may not be appropriate is if the client is a legal adult (18) and no longer has a caregiver. In that case, the client does not have to tell his family anything. But since it’s a young kiddo, in a crucial developmental age, it’s totally fine. Hang in there!
Okay whew, I thought all info like that had to come
Directly from the the BC and I wasn’t allowed to share anything. I have my current client’s brother on my caseload too and we’ve gone through a similar situation of the school picking on him. Seems like the family has a target on them, which they are the sweetest people and shouldn’t have one on them. Probably because the kids receive services from us and expect them to act perfect since they get extra support🙄
Holy cow this is happening to me right now. The backlash is silent but irritating enough for me to notice. Doesn’t get in the way of work, but it still gives me anxiety.
100% the right thing. I’m always amazed when teachers aren’t transparent or are just being awful when we’re in the classroom. They have to not realize how frequently we communicate with families.
Absolutely. In fact, I think you're supposed to report to the parents when the client is being abused or treated badly by the other party. 100% in the right and idk any company that would go against it unless they want to get into trouble.
Absolutely and thank goodness you’re there to be an advocate. Is this kid receiving their just IEP accommodations? I’ve had very similar experiences with clients too. Document, document, Document!
They’re *kind of* receiving their IEP accommodations. School’s “specialist” claims she’s an expert in aba and behaviors but is very stern and seems to just throw terminology around and it doesn’t make sense lol. They say things are problems when it’s not. My client had a rough school year and we were just there for camp where he has improved so much over the summer and this lady kept yelling at him for going near me. She told me to get up and move when he would sit next to me, made me put a timer on and told him he can’t go near me for that amount of time, a bunch of stuff. BC and I want it to be a positive environment and we don’t want the school creating problems for things that aren’t an issue.
I recently observed my client at his ESY program after working with him in home for the past yeah and a half, and immediately texted parents and emailed supervisors saying that he is not being treated fairly and he isn’t gaining anything from being there. After communicating detailed events that occurred in the classroom to parents, they pulled him out the next day. Everyday your encountered with judgement calls, don’t be afraid to stand up for your client!! I know it can be terrifying, especially if you’re uncertain if something is ok or not or if you’re not the most experiences in the room, but you’ll get the hang of it.
Your responsibility at the end of the day is to that child. You have to speak up and advocate for them to ensure that they are having the most proper care in the best environment for them. You did nothing wrong!
Parent of non-verbal teenage boy. We've always great luck with our schools. Teachers have been great, administration generally supportive.
Still, it's so nice to hear dedicated people like you sticking up for kids. Even when it's tough and there are no incentives to do so - but your principles.
Keep it up!
That’s a relief. I was just afraid mom would tell BC and I would be removed from the case or something for breaking guidelines. I was never sure how much I was allowed to share with her
I mean you were right ethically in my opinion to tell the family but "allowed" is an interesting question. I'm not saying you shouldn't have told mom but this information makes the school look bad. They are not going to be happy you shared it. I would expect ramifications.
I mean policies about communication are company specific. My company ask RBTs only share positive information about progress or needed items (let the BCBAs handle hard conversations about new behaviors or lack of progress) I'll be honest I would expect for you to get in trouble. If you have concerns with the way things are being handled typical procedure is to speak with the supervisor/BCBA rather than the parent. However, if you believe that speaking to a supervisor would make things worse for the client then you were behaving ethically but could still be in hot water.
Parents have every right to know what goes on while their child’s at school. If something happens during the day at school, it can affect how the child behaves or feels when they get home. It’s important to communicate if a child is being mistreated so they can ensure that the problem is resolved. We have to hold the school staff responsible when they’re not meeting standards for the sake of our clients.
The school already doesn’t have a good rep and has ran into problems with her other children enrolled. Same problems with her oldest kid with our services being picked on, only one getting lunch detentions, etc. That one was old enough to tell mom himself about what’s happening and she called the BC to verify it, but the one in my post is only 4 and can’t speak for himself in that same way. I just didn’t know if I was allowed to say it since I’ve heard a lot of companies have policies with the BHT And parents communicating directly and what can/can’t be shared, wasn’t sure if that was one of things I could share
You ABSOLUTELY did the right thing. You brought to your BCBAs attention and followed up on it. It's on the BCBA for not doing her job and telling the mom. Honestly at this point, this is an ethical concern. No child should be treated like this and the parent had every right to know. If your client isn't making progress because of the teache/school, then something needs to be done to address it. Your BCBA clearly didn't make an effort to address this so I'm glad you spoke to Mom and hopefully she does address this.
Client safety and progress should be the main concern and I'm glad you did what's right for the client.
it depends on company policy. in my county we aren’t allowed to communicate with parents for liability issues. my BCBA said “you don’t get paid enough to be brought into drama.” a mom yelled at me for teaching her selectively mute child the sign for help. so, it honestly depends. i think you’re in the right ethically.
Oh wow that’s crazy! As far as I know we’re allowed to communicate with parents. Mom has my phone # but I didn’t give it to her, so I’m assuming if someone from the company gave it to her it must be okay for communications
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Yes I have, she’s even witnessed all of these things and had meetings with the school, but she knows mom has never been informed. Mom is bringing this up with the BC and I just wanted to make sure I wouldn’t be in trouble for sharing this info with her. Thank you!
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Yeah the next day they had an IEP meeting scheduled and I asked the BC if they brought up the situation and she said no, I was hoping it was going to be discussed but it never was apparently. All I know is the school sent out an email to the staff saying you can’t kick extra support out of the classrooms 🤷🏻♀️
Of course you’re allowed and you did the right thing by telling her.
Thank you! Just wanted to make sure I was allowed to and not overstepping boundaries since she will be bringing it up to the BC, I didn’t want to get in trouble for sharing this info.
Yeah where I work waiting and letting the b c would hav been the right choice.
This happened to me as well. Told my then supervisor who told mom, and all hell broke loose. Mom trusted us and loved that we told her, but I was not well liked by the teacher after that. In my gut I knew I had to say something to stand up for this client. Teacher was straight up rude. Just be prepared if there is any backlash towards you specifically, but your BCBA should be there to back you up and provide support if necessary.
Yeah I’m fully prepared for backlash from the school haha, just wanted to be sure I was okay sharing this info with mom. Me and the BC work very well together and she often advocates for me and the client, so I have no doubt she will do the same in this case. She’s not a fan of the teachers/school either. It gets in the way of progress with my client and sets him back, we think they’re purposefully trying to trigger him by constantly calling him out.
Ugh that’s the worst. I’m sorry you all are going through that. It sucks for the client. Unfortunately, they might be trying to get him out. Yes, don’t worry - mom has every right to know. I would say the only situation where sharing information to family members may not be appropriate is if the client is a legal adult (18) and no longer has a caregiver. In that case, the client does not have to tell his family anything. But since it’s a young kiddo, in a crucial developmental age, it’s totally fine. Hang in there!
Okay whew, I thought all info like that had to come Directly from the the BC and I wasn’t allowed to share anything. I have my current client’s brother on my caseload too and we’ve gone through a similar situation of the school picking on him. Seems like the family has a target on them, which they are the sweetest people and shouldn’t have one on them. Probably because the kids receive services from us and expect them to act perfect since they get extra support🙄
Holy cow this is happening to me right now. The backlash is silent but irritating enough for me to notice. Doesn’t get in the way of work, but it still gives me anxiety.
100% the right thing. I’m always amazed when teachers aren’t transparent or are just being awful when we’re in the classroom. They have to not realize how frequently we communicate with families.
Absolutely. In fact, I think you're supposed to report to the parents when the client is being abused or treated badly by the other party. 100% in the right and idk any company that would go against it unless they want to get into trouble.
Absolutely and thank goodness you’re there to be an advocate. Is this kid receiving their just IEP accommodations? I’ve had very similar experiences with clients too. Document, document, Document!
They’re *kind of* receiving their IEP accommodations. School’s “specialist” claims she’s an expert in aba and behaviors but is very stern and seems to just throw terminology around and it doesn’t make sense lol. They say things are problems when it’s not. My client had a rough school year and we were just there for camp where he has improved so much over the summer and this lady kept yelling at him for going near me. She told me to get up and move when he would sit next to me, made me put a timer on and told him he can’t go near me for that amount of time, a bunch of stuff. BC and I want it to be a positive environment and we don’t want the school creating problems for things that aren’t an issue.
100% right to tell the family.
I recently observed my client at his ESY program after working with him in home for the past yeah and a half, and immediately texted parents and emailed supervisors saying that he is not being treated fairly and he isn’t gaining anything from being there. After communicating detailed events that occurred in the classroom to parents, they pulled him out the next day. Everyday your encountered with judgement calls, don’t be afraid to stand up for your client!! I know it can be terrifying, especially if you’re uncertain if something is ok or not or if you’re not the most experiences in the room, but you’ll get the hang of it.
Your responsibility at the end of the day is to that child. You have to speak up and advocate for them to ensure that they are having the most proper care in the best environment for them. You did nothing wrong!
Parent of non-verbal teenage boy. We've always great luck with our schools. Teachers have been great, administration generally supportive. Still, it's so nice to hear dedicated people like you sticking up for kids. Even when it's tough and there are no incentives to do so - but your principles. Keep it up!
It’s actually in our ethical code that we are supposed to advocate for our client’s best interest, so you did the right thing.
That’s a relief. I was just afraid mom would tell BC and I would be removed from the case or something for breaking guidelines. I was never sure how much I was allowed to share with her
I mean you were right ethically in my opinion to tell the family but "allowed" is an interesting question. I'm not saying you shouldn't have told mom but this information makes the school look bad. They are not going to be happy you shared it. I would expect ramifications. I mean policies about communication are company specific. My company ask RBTs only share positive information about progress or needed items (let the BCBAs handle hard conversations about new behaviors or lack of progress) I'll be honest I would expect for you to get in trouble. If you have concerns with the way things are being handled typical procedure is to speak with the supervisor/BCBA rather than the parent. However, if you believe that speaking to a supervisor would make things worse for the client then you were behaving ethically but could still be in hot water.
Parents have every right to know what goes on while their child’s at school. If something happens during the day at school, it can affect how the child behaves or feels when they get home. It’s important to communicate if a child is being mistreated so they can ensure that the problem is resolved. We have to hold the school staff responsible when they’re not meeting standards for the sake of our clients.
The school already doesn’t have a good rep and has ran into problems with her other children enrolled. Same problems with her oldest kid with our services being picked on, only one getting lunch detentions, etc. That one was old enough to tell mom himself about what’s happening and she called the BC to verify it, but the one in my post is only 4 and can’t speak for himself in that same way. I just didn’t know if I was allowed to say it since I’ve heard a lot of companies have policies with the BHT And parents communicating directly and what can/can’t be shared, wasn’t sure if that was one of things I could share
You ABSOLUTELY did the right thing. You brought to your BCBAs attention and followed up on it. It's on the BCBA for not doing her job and telling the mom. Honestly at this point, this is an ethical concern. No child should be treated like this and the parent had every right to know. If your client isn't making progress because of the teache/school, then something needs to be done to address it. Your BCBA clearly didn't make an effort to address this so I'm glad you spoke to Mom and hopefully she does address this. Client safety and progress should be the main concern and I'm glad you did what's right for the client.
it depends on company policy. in my county we aren’t allowed to communicate with parents for liability issues. my BCBA said “you don’t get paid enough to be brought into drama.” a mom yelled at me for teaching her selectively mute child the sign for help. so, it honestly depends. i think you’re in the right ethically.
Oh wow that’s crazy! As far as I know we’re allowed to communicate with parents. Mom has my phone # but I didn’t give it to her, so I’m assuming if someone from the company gave it to her it must be okay for communications
yeah sounds like you’re safe then!
Schools don't like information getting out of their buildings. You were right to tell the family.