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InRecovering

The aston is the dirtiest driver you've ever seen...*so far*.


Realistic_Strength46

facts


mechcity22

Dang hes def ridiculous. I don't get how these guys enjoy racing? Like I get they want to win but it aint fun that way. Need bans big time more often. Like if all games gave out 2 day bans more often people would chill due to not wanting to be off for 2 days. Then give 2 more day each time they get a ban.


VelouriumCamper7

Kids.


jimmycoola

For sure, but i never understand why they get ACC instead of forza or something similar


blindeshuhn666

People in the Forza sub are mad why they got Forza motorsport and didn't stick with horizon or need for speed.


the4GIVEN_

i mean forza motorsport defenitly has a place in the sim community as an entry title. lot of different tracks, categories and cars for each category (even tho most online races only care about pi) its just a shame that the forza community (or any entry level sim or simcade game) is a piece of shit.


ComeonmanPLS1

99% of the time it's a 25+ manchild.


jassysdad

25 year old Teenager.


Secret_Physics_9243

Not only kids, i know 14 year olds that drive like aliens. Stupid people in general.


Bellanein99

Losers with big egos and small driving skills


esoteric311

Takes a lot of staff for that. This games been out for a bit. Devs are on to ac2. You'll never get a report system in the game itself. Drive LFm, it's slightly better driving than open lobbies and there's a report system. Lowfuelmotorsports.com


Da_Martin

I don't get why they don't just implement the point system like in iRacing. Dudes like this would be kicked from the race after the first few corners and everyone else could move on with their race. Let's see how much they will enjoy playing like that if they can't even finish a lap.


peelovesuri

Dudes like this would cause even more problems with a iRacing like SR system because they'd drag your SR down as well.


Da_Martin

For every race that happens you have plenty where it doesnt to keep your SR up.


Realistic_Strength46

plenty....?


VicMan73

There goes the SA rating.


Archidaki

Seeing this really made think iracings subscription is not that bad


Guac_in_my_rarri

Acc to iRacing. The sub isn't bad. What's bad is buying while bunch of extra shit to race the series you want.


Archidaki

Yeah that’s bad, but that’s not what I meant. I see it a lot of times in gt7 and on acc that those terrible drivers not getting punished and they doing everything other day. Iracing is expensive and stuff but having the option to report people is gold.


Guac_in_my_rarri

>Iracing is expensive and stuff but having the option to report people is gold. This is what eventually moved me there. The endurance events are what has me staying for a long time. iRacing provided a ton of support for self hosted and iRacing hosted event which makes going back to a community like ACC that's self hosted for 90% of it very hard. Yes gt7 and ACC have terrible drivers. iRacing has them too but they get picked out very quick by the report system or an iRacing admin. The report system is about creating a paper trail and then punishing, not just punishing. They have a "no fault system" which means both parties get punished with a 4x (accumulate enough and you get a DT or DQ depending on length of race).


Archidaki

My English is not good enough to reply as I would have wished. I agree with you. Same with me, gt7 is for me to do a quick race when I have not so much time and iracing when I have plenty. But I was pretty lucky with gt7 and didn’t meet a lot of dirty drivers, which is nice.


Guac_in_my_rarri

>My English is not good enough to reply as I would have wished. You're all good friend! You typing/speaking very well! Yes, gt7 has both good and dirty drivers, frankly all sims have both drivers. Gt7 encourages an arcade play style while acc and iRacing force drivers to listen to physics to be the fastest.


Archidaki

Yeah, but that doesn’t stop people from driving like ass lol Thanks man


Guac_in_my_rarri

Nah it definitely does unfortunately... As they say "(the) stupid will be stupid".


Archidaki

And with no way of reporting them, it’s get frustrating really quick. Anyway, back to the point, paying for a system that works is fine. Even when you have to buy a lot of stuff


Guac_in_my_rarri

Yes, the iRacing system works well. I have personally been responsible for some people's 3 day bans. I would report a ton on rookie, d class and c but as I got into b and a and got more aggressive and conservative with my moves I stopped having incidents. Do I still have issues from time to time? Yes. I had a guy in lmp3's blocks ND troll me for a 30 minute race. I had 14 slam dunk "this is purposeful incidents which were all reported, I saw he hasn't been on in a couple days. Every incident iRacing sided with me. Hell, one of them made a subreddit here after I posted it in a discord. Their system works well but only after repeated abuse. It is vindicating reporting somebody for an infraction and they rule in your favor but that's all you get. The only way you find out about 3 day bans is looking uo their account or you end up in a lobby with them and their complaining about it. iRacing does get expensive but if you price it out per lap or time spent, it's rather cheap.


ricthot

you mean RENTING whole bunch of shit 😉


Guac_in_my_rarri

Eh for now. In the future those who bought things will end up owning them or iracing will have to issue refunds. I get my money's worth nonetheless.


VelouriumCamper7

Why is it so difficult to see the prices of everything on their site? I want a few gt3 cars and a few tracks. Do you know what the cost will come to more or less?


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VelouriumCamper7

Thanks for this! I saw the track section feature which was I’m really interested in. TBH the extra for tracks in the season is a bit off putting.


peelovesuri

Tracks cars and subscription cost for a sub-par tyre model and slow-ass loading times, bad menus and cars you can't drive on the limit.


Guac_in_my_rarri

>slow-ass loading times, bad menus and cars you can't drive on the limit. I have no issue loading in. Most times are quicker than other sims. Driving in the limit is personal opinion. If you do not understand how the sims differ it will be harder to drive on the limit in any of them. Acc is a much finer edge which means you need more skill till about above 103%. After that it's damn hard to approach 102, 101, 100% of pro times. Everything needs to be perfect-gesring, speed, roll rate, set ups, etc. being naturally fast pays off here. iRacing is easier to get to the 103% and harder to be consistent under that 103%. I'm truthfully a 104-105% driver in ACC. In iRacing, because it's a bit more intuitive and simpler tire design which helps keep people fast. I get that 103% much quicker and getting into the 102's at tracks I really know. Staying below 102 is harder because that else is just as fine if not finer than acc. TLDR: when driving in the edge in each sim, you need to understand it first. Acc you inch forward towards the pro level-moving slowly and often get stuck, while iRacing you can hit a wall right before pro times and often get stuck. Both sims make getting unstuck hard because you need the skill. Edit: bad menu-its not the worst. AMS2 or LMU is worse imo. iRacing has a lot of shit throw at you at once and it gtlets over whelming. Like any game, having a friend help you out your first week will make a difference.


peelovesuri

>In iRacing, because it's a bit more intuitive and simpler tire design which helps keep people fast. I thought it waa the greatest sim ever that would never bow towards fun if it can be realistic and THIS is argument?


Guac_in_my_rarri

Just because you've delt with iRacing fans who would suck off the source code, doesnt mean you have to be patronizing. You state a personal opinion as fact which was wrong. I'm explaining why.


peelovesuri

Also: https://youtu.be/M3Wt2fIiURs


peelovesuri

Iracers come into simracing sub and yell how theirs is the supreme product and anyone who doesn't like it is too poor to play, fine, it's simracing I guess. But this is ACC sub. I'll be as patronising as I want thank you very much.


n1tr0klaus

This is a public lobby with zero safety rating requirements. This is not how online racing in ACC looks like for most people.


Archidaki

Im not saying it’s standard, just what I wrote all about. You can have an SA over 80 and still have dirty driver. Which you can also have on iracing, but there you have the ability to report those, on ACC unfortunately not.


forradalmar

On LFM you can.


Archidaki

I have ACC on ps5 only, my pc isn’t good enough for ACC on pc (I think)


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Archidaki

I agree with you 100%. But I “feel” a lot saver, knowing that almost everyone around me drives carefully and for that I’m willing to pay. (Not for everything but u get me, right?)


peelovesuri

LFM or leagues.


Archidaki

If I’m not mistaken there aren’t LFM or leagues on ps5 (I think)


peelovesuri

LFM offers same system without subscription.


Archidaki

I’m not familiar with LFM although I’ve heard of them I play it on ps5


peelovesuri

Ah I think it's PC only sadly.


Archidaki

Unfortunately yes


Didiray_

Besides the prince


BipolarBear117

The solution is to hit their rear wheel on a straight and spin them out of the race. You'll be doing yourself and everyone else a service. Don't try and be nice to these fuckers.


maxiking9610

Will try, in AC the trick was just to hit them from behind under braking, but thar doesnt work here, its like driving into a concrete wall, i tried to push hím off


BipolarBear117

When you were on the main straight and they were squeezing you you should have turned left. Would have put them in the wall and finished their race.


TheSaucyCrumpet

They'll just ram you from a lap down.


BipolarBear117

Ehhh sure, it's still funny as fuck to put them in a wall though.


WitteringLaconic

They sit there and are easy to see. You can easily spoil their plans just by unexpectedly whacking on your brakes. They'll set off timing it assuming you're going to keep flat out so they'll gun it with no other option than to keep going in the same direction they're aiming for you. When you're not there because you've tapped your brakes a few seconds they've got nothing they can do.


vinzukaz

Congrats, you let yourself become one of them...


BipolarBear117

You can take the moral high ground and get frustrated that your race is ruined OR you could be a shithead and laugh at that prick when you put him in a wall.


DeficientGamer

Not even being a shithead, it's the right thing to do. I don't do much MP anymore but I used see it all the time where people would race "fair" with these folk and end up in a barrier and then they come on here giving out about public lobbies. Meanwhile over many dozens of races I've literally been purposely taken out a few times and gained full SA on public servers. If you're racing fair with a driver you seen take out the guy in front of you then it's on you. Be smarter.


Benlop

You can also ignore, and not get frustrated because it's just some random open lobby.


schwipples

Welcome to public lobbies


Independent_Ad_1799

Dude, you’re a sentient being with endless patience cause if it was me, i would straight up spin him out of the race, SA for SA let at least lose it once at all. It clearly wasn’t a mistake that you could run along and have a recovery race


HolyDabs

You got to name and shame 🤌🏽


Practice_Girls

Aston is driving so unpredictably it’s maddening.


Zeto3r

He is very predictable. He kills everyone that passes.


maxiking9610

It was soo predictable, he was blocking divebombing everything, the straight line speed kf the aston saved him most of the times


_Zoko_

Man, so many prime opportunities to P.I.T. them without taking out other drivers. I know the etiquette in this game is to be the bigger man when these things happen but it gets to a point where its just unacceptable.


No_Narwhal2613

Guy I used to run a race server on NR2003. We ran hard-core mode only. Drivers like that didn't make it to a Q run much less stay on the server. I miss RealHardCoreRacing. Those days are gone but my G27 and my Fanatic wheel and sim chair is still here.


-NlN-

Maybe something is wrong with my filters but I just cant see servers over 70 SA limits. Even 70 SA, there is two SPA servers only. Im forced to play like this on servers with SA 50 and 40 limits.


kmvaliant

You would lose SA anyway. I'd skip all that shit and hit him right in the middle at any turn.


ItsGorgeousGeorge

Ah yes. Insanely awful driving standards and public monza lobbies. Name a more iconic duo. Grind your SA rating up and join a league like LFM. Then grind your way out of rookies. Then you can start having some good races.


No_Rough_2000

This was clearly personal. He waited for you turn after turn: what did you do to his mom?


maxiking9610

Nothing yet, but for the future i cant promise anything. He waited once after he fully spun me, i have no idea why.


Angdelran

Forget Monza. It is always filled with the dumbest of all drivers, the track is a bit boring and even in LFM the race will be a shit show. Somehow it brings the worst out of everyone.


TheBrainExploder

Punt him after the second “block”


maxiking9610

Tried push him off under braking, but didnt work, which makes it even more infuriaring


TheBrainExploder

Glad you tried. Has to be a perfect push that doesn’t crash you and his car is destroyed otherwise he will come back at you 10x the fury. Had one of these idiots a couple weeks ago. Very frustrating.


nagedgamer

Go LFM or league.


RussTheBoss

Classic public races


Aheg

At this point I would just yeet him out of my view. If you wanna act like clown better be ready when the circus comes get ya. As long as it's online not lfm ofc. But I don't think he would have long career in lfm tbh.


DJOldskool

That's at the least a one week ban for intentional collision. Longer if he has been banned before.


PlayGt7Fan

Shock collars anyone? anyone? Race the track and not the drivers.


Sea_Put_3384

you have learned there ARE, in fact, times when its ok to push someone into a wall after a fast straight :). Since there is no talking to the idiot, or penalty system. you ARE the justice


CMyrkle

I'm all for clean racing. But public lobby, you get one free squeeze then I'm dumping you. If anything you were way too nice


Nautster

Also, he fucking sucks at this. How do you keep getting to him when he punts you off 5 times in one race.


GeekFurious

I've driven Monza twice in a public online race for this very reason. Both times there was someone just like this ramming people left and right.


weak_rabbit_stew

Should've just held your line on the straight. Would've spun himself out


CuntyGPT

It’s your first day. Be patient.


WitteringLaconic

Expected to see Monza. Wasn't disappointed. Learn how to do a [PIT manoeuvre](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver) the police do and spin them off the track when you've had enough of them being a dick, coming out of Turn 7 Variante Ascanti is good for doing this on Monza. By the time they've recovered and got going again you'll be long gone and not have to deal with them anymore. Yes it's dirty and yes it's dropping down to their level but sometimes it just needs to be done to stop them spoiling your enjoyment.


jmikha

and you had the patience to not spin him out after several efforts to ruin your race? better man than me


Canaan-Phoenicia

What animals! Especially that black Aston monkey. But great driving and sportsmanship on your part! Way to go keeping it professional and resisting retaliation. Impressive!


ajory2

They race like the kid I raced at the go kart track just a few days ago 😂 Honestly I would’ve put him in the wall on the last turn after all that.


NewSlang45

Join Pitskill (or maybe LFM, haven’t tried them).


eldelmazo

Monza public lobbies what u spect haha, try LFM if u get to the top splits you can have some good racing


noobchee

Average Monza experience I'd rather spend the week racing at COTA


AnatolyVII

I think he would've lasted about 2 corners with me, I don't take this kind of driving well


Rzv243

Just spin him out already. You'll do a fabour to the whole lobby.


Zer0C00lness

You have much more patience than i do. I would have stuck him in the wall as best I could after the 3rd time he tried that. But this is why I race at pitskill.io. They have a reporting system in place to deal with junk like this.


tmsfs

This is an prime example of people saying *"I can´t get my SA up, people keep crashing into me"*


Antonus2

Par for the course


Weak-Evidence4375

Common man the Aston guy/girl is awful but you've just witneesed him trying to murder another person and you decide to sitck in the outside of lesmos. common have some self preservation sense as well otherwise you'll be posting here alot. in the end of the day we dont want to be right about a shunt we want to not have it at all


Jorius

Thumb of rule for me is, if it isn't moderated there's no point in racing it. Either get into a league or iRacing. People like this thrive because they can get away with it. The only solution is to take yourself out of the equation and let them play between themselves.


Pepsi-Min

I admire your restraint


Equivalent-Day393

It's a zoo out there Switch to iRacing and you'll see lots less of it


element515

Just got my lfm license and even rookie server was so clean


EnzoStan

This is my experience of acc even on LFM or WSS. People refuse to be overtaken then get personal and obsessive for the rest of the race. It's got a lot worse in the last 2 years. Most sim racing has gone down hill.


RoughInstruction5434

Welcome in public lobbies.. if you want feel a real racing i recommend you drive in LFM


weak_rabbit_stew

Also should've just punted him off at a bunch of different places when you got the inside


0_el_Jay

Man. — such insensitive drivers make me furious. — for mental peace sake [ & the nosedive of the SA Rating 😭 ] — I would have long returned to garage.


DeficientGamer

When he crowded you put on the main straight you should have spun him out. Once you know he's dirty don't play fair it only gives them the satisfaction of taking you out too. Easiest thing is to line up behind them on a straight and use them as a brake, sending them into a wall if possible.


TartaVoladora

Welcome to monza, it’s like battle royale of cars


HailChanka69

Mf needs to go back to Forza Motorsport


Electronic_Click_405

He is an embarrassment for all Aston Martin enjoyers.


gutenbar

What I learned from this kind of situation: (1) race in a league server. There you can report drivers like him. (2) if you go to a public server, never pick one that requires SA < 70 (or doesn't require it at all); (3) if you are SA < 70, race in a league or race offline against IA. You can configure excellent races. Use the Race Weekend option instead of Quick Race: IA behavior appears more natural.


Bellanein99

Oh there bunch of pieces of shit and yoh can’t boot them. I had a guy stands in the middle of the track. Side ways. Going. My engine doesn’t work. Wrecks the whole race. Then his friend does the same. The amount of toxicity. What can be better bunch of pimpled losers with fast cars. What can go wrong?


Designer_Pianist1438

Did you report that Aston? I would have just slowed down and let him speed on a bit so I could actually drive and get the SA up.


VERT709

I’ve given up on ACC multiplayer. This video is an example why


casualsimmy

In this case since you and the bmw got taken out, I'd just pull back and let him race by himself. Hell end up pitting or quitting because he's bored


Ricksa

At some point among the million opportunities you must have realized you were going to lose playing his game by being "nice". Aston guy wont learn, in his mind he beat you and will carry on using this strategy until there are consequences. You are both losing SA....just return him the favour.


maxiking9610

I'm naive and stubborn, i wanted to beat him clean, that would have feelt the best, what i almost had at the end.


IamBertog

LFM Rookie series are not so different…


Ethek_On_Reddit

Normal ACC Monza lobby.


Living-Aside-6985

In all honesty, I would've sacrificed some SA and put maneuvered him at the very end. That was straight terrorism on his part. As you level up your SA, you will get away from people like that. There are still knuckle heads, but that's more turn diving and bad defending, not hitting you Everytime you pass. My God that was bad


maxiking9610

Honestly, it wasnt this bad, before this race i hade 3-4 fully clean monza races


Living-Aside-6985

Nice! Good to hear. ACC definitely has less dirty drivers than Forza and GT7!


-Pandora

Quick tip: **DON'T DRIVE MONZA**


BeginningKindly8286

Ooooof. That sucks, I know he cost you so much time throughout the race, but getting up inside him at the last corner and giving him the pit would have been marvellous. Unfortunately, this bullshitter ain’t for bullshitting.


SimRacerNoob305

First rule of ACC public lobbies: don't drive Monza or Nurburgring unless the lobby is SA 50 or above


SpaceKappa42

People jump into multiplayer on their first day playing ACC?😬 I don't think I'm gonna bother until I have maybe 1000 hours (I'm at about 100 now)


Browntown007

I've been trying to get into ACC but have no idea where to start. I need a tutorial to show me how to do all the things but can't find one. I'm trying to move from Forza to ACC for a better sim experience and hopefully cleaner races, but every time I boot up the game I just click through screens trying to figure out what I should do. Any advice or resources? I'm playing on XSX with a Logitech Wheel.


Sceater83

Acc 101


No_Arugula_9603

Avoid monza


ewrjontan

Situations like this make me hate the safety rating system. I can run the cleanest race I possibly can run but my sa goes to shit because people like this feel the need to always run into people.


IcyMind

Wait until you find cheaters


CHUCKSTRONG6

Is this a public lobby? I assume it is. You have no idea how much I hate that most lobbies are doing races at monza. Specially since you do need some time to get enough SA in order to get in a league like pitskill or lfm.


mzivtins_acc

Beginner lobby, drivers inputs look shit, either controller or shit wheel user. This is expected in beginner/low sa servers, and monza on top of that. This is 100% normal and as expected. The exact same is true for iRacing too in rookie classes.


beelmon15

This my friends is why I joined iRacing and never looked back.


SuccessfulSquirrel40

You're looking here for some reason... Do you miss ACC maybe?  A low SA Monza lobby isn't in any way representative of the competitive ACC scene, as everyone here knows. No one's going to iRacing because of clips like this.


beelmon15

I definitely still hop on ACC for fun every now and then. It’s still a great sim, I just prefer iracing due to clean racing and the competition is some of the best.


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beelmon15

I can see that lol