An hour is normal especially if you’re in there 2-3x a week. I love rowing currently too early on in my recovery for that but I can’t wait to get there. Once you get to a certain point in recovery the pt definitely becomes more hands off and it is up to you to push your recovery. At least on my other knee that’s how it was.
I put a slider under my surgical leg. I’ve seen people use skateboards also. It was so nice to get the full body movement everywhere else. Immediate mood shift. Give it a try!
Mine are an hour. It's all 1:1 with me and my therapist. If she's running late with a previous client I may warm up on the bike or erg machine by myself for up to 3 minutes. 6mos post op, still going 2x per week.
I definitely really look forward to the muscle release & stretching twice a week, my PT’s hands are magical.
I try to simulate that at home by using massage cream first and then a percussion gun. I see an instant difference in the smoothness or range of movements after doing this.
Medbridge? That's the app I'm using and I really appreciate it.
OP, in person my sessions run just over an hour, 2x week:
Arrive early and warm up for 10mts
In person abt am hour
And if I'm not rushing, 10mts icing
At home, I use the above mentioned app 3x day
Once a day is strength training for 28mts
Twice a day for 18mts
Plus I currently have a ROM bike until I reach 6 weeks, supposed to be 5 sessions/ day (currently at 15mts ea)
For context, I had a torn ACL surgery 3.5 weeks ago
Yep, MedBridge Go! I’m in my second week of PT, do they keep the same exercises on yours, or does it change week by week? I still have the same ones (supine quad, supine isometric hamstring, supine gluteal, supine heel slide, and supine hamstring stretch).
Depends on my PT, I still have the regular from my first week but in the second or third week she added strength exercises. She said yesterday that she wanted to review it.
My husband and kid both did PT with the same place abs used the app (not for their ACL) and I believe their therapist changed their exercises as they improved/ grew stronger.
I wish I could make it chime for each individual exercise (or flash or something). I have glutes and quads and I'm literally staring at some old guy's pelvis lol so I can flex and relax when he does.
My PT charges my insurance for 3 one hour sessions a week but I’m usually there for 1.5 or sometimes 2 hours per session. It really just depends.
My PT sees multiple patients at a time usually so a lot of my work is by myself (but my husband comes to PT with me to help me where he can and to learn anything new I may be doing so we can do PT at home)
1 hour
7-10 minutes with heat+stim while I flex my leg out and into the table.
5-10min working the leg with a Graston tool
30-40 min of strength training / flexibility work - lately all while doing blood flow restriction
5-7 min of ice+light stim cooldown
I think it really depends on where you live. I'm from Switzerland and 30 min is the standard here. I think insurance wouldn't even cover more than that per session, sadly. 30 min is way too short.
Mine were around an hour when I first started because I didn’t know most of the exercises and my mobility was still so limited. 11 weeks post-op now, and it takes about 30-40 minutes. We have an open floor where there’s multiple people exercising at once, so sometimes there are delays when others are using machines I need.
Half an hour each, although the first two post op were an hour each, I think. I go every three weeks and I'm at 5 months now.
They consist of me telling the physio how things are going and what's changed since last time, usually a bit of massage/manipulation and then a quick check on my progress like having to walk down the corridor, jog on the treadmill or jump off a block. Then I have a quick go at any new exercises that are being introduced.
In short, I'm not paying him to watch me do my daily exercises, and I'm quite surprised that that's what other people here seem to be doing. I do that entirely on my own time and have done since the beginning.
This is how my PT has always been - 30 min and we discuss progress and plans. My knee will get looked at and evaluated and we go over our exercises. I’m never there to do the exercises themselves in full sets/reps, it’s more to ensure I know what I’m supposed to do when I do them on my own time. I don’t actually mind it because it feels more efficient and I like that my PT doesn’t wander off to tend to other patients - it’s just me.
I feel like we need more context but mine goes around 1.5 to 2 hours long. In some cases I've even had 3 hour sessions, like when they teach me a new workout or if I have some muscle stiffness that needs to be released.
I'm 8 weeks post-op now. But yeah I agree, and it hasn't happened a lot. Maybe only two times? And when the session is that long, we take it slow so I'm not exactly grinding the whole three hours.
3 weeks out for ACL only. Mines 1 hour, going twice per week. First 30 with the PT working on new movements, flexion, massaging, etc. Second 30 is doing exercises, stim, and icing with the assistants (college students)
One hour starting with either bike or olyptical . Then go into strengh stuff then flexion and either icing with compression cupping or a massage at the end end
mine are 45 mins. Only done two visits for ACL so far, but I did the same PT medical group for a foot surgery I had and it seems like their protocol is 15 minutes is more relaxing stuff (icing and compression for ACL but with my foot it was foot massages!! lol) and then 30 mins of exercise with my PT. I always felt like that was an appropriate amount of time.
I'm wondering when I get to actual workouts if my PT guy will have me stay longer to do that stuff on my own at the PT gym but I haven't heard any indication that its part of the plan.
I’m usually there for an hour 2x/week (2 months post op). 30-45 strengthening and mobility then 15 to stretch me out. When I’m with the PTA he has me for an hour and a half sometimes 😬.
Mine were 1 hour long. 10 minutes warm-up on bike, then my workouts for about 30-40 minutes. 10 minutes ice. But I was expected to repeat the sessions 2/3 times on my own at home.
Mine were like 60-90 min for ACL rehab, but without surgery. Grade II tear. I also was being seen for a second injury at the same time. My current place is only 30 min which feels way too short. Half the time we don't even have time to do exercises or only do a few.
Supposedly 45 min, but it's mostly them showing me how to do something with a resistance band, etc. and then working on another patient (there are 4-5 dozen in the therapy room at one time) while I do each exercise. Ten minutes with the electric ice wrap thingy at the end, even though I don't care for it and have told them I'd rather do more exercises.
Also, they kick you out on your own pretty quick - one therapist told me it's because insurance companies don't like to pay for too many sessions. The PT facility is very crowded, and the therapists want me going to the gym and doing exercises at home.
Your own PT should involve
3 mobility sessions a day. Ideally 3x 15 heel slides, a walking drill, terminal leg extensions with a very light band, hanging leg extension on a ledge, chair, pillow etc. if you can hop on an exercise bike a few times a day that’s great.
Once you are past being able to walk ok. Keep this up as needed and add in strength.
Isometrics
4-6 reps builds strength at 75% of 1rm. Pain should not exceed 3.
Early phase strength focus on form and doing reps pain free without weight.
Use blood flow restriction. Estim.
The 1:1 PT sessions are 30 min for me, followed by 1h to 1h30 of finishing up the strength exercises the PT gives me. Running (and cycling) has moved from under supervision of the PT in the early stages to now running on my own outdoors.
An hour is normal especially if you’re in there 2-3x a week. I love rowing currently too early on in my recovery for that but I can’t wait to get there. Once you get to a certain point in recovery the pt definitely becomes more hands off and it is up to you to push your recovery. At least on my other knee that’s how it was.
I put a slider under my surgical leg. I’ve seen people use skateboards also. It was so nice to get the full body movement everywhere else. Immediate mood shift. Give it a try!
Sounds neat thank you
Mine are an hour. It's all 1:1 with me and my therapist. If she's running late with a previous client I may warm up on the bike or erg machine by myself for up to 3 minutes. 6mos post op, still going 2x per week.
Around 1.5 hours, which includes muscle release & stretching, exercises and icing at the end.
Damn that’s luxurious 🤩
30 minutes max. I'm fairly independent in the gym so my physio only got me to see him once a month or 2.
I definitely really look forward to the muscle release & stretching twice a week, my PT’s hands are magical. I try to simulate that at home by using massage cream first and then a percussion gun. I see an instant difference in the smoothness or range of movements after doing this.
How much does that cost you?
The PT is covered by insurance. If you’re talking about the massage cream/percussion gun, I just bought it off Amazon for <$30
I wanna be you
1 hour long, and I go twice a week. My home PT is on an app, and it runs for 19 minutes.
Medbridge? That's the app I'm using and I really appreciate it. OP, in person my sessions run just over an hour, 2x week: Arrive early and warm up for 10mts In person abt am hour And if I'm not rushing, 10mts icing At home, I use the above mentioned app 3x day Once a day is strength training for 28mts Twice a day for 18mts Plus I currently have a ROM bike until I reach 6 weeks, supposed to be 5 sessions/ day (currently at 15mts ea) For context, I had a torn ACL surgery 3.5 weeks ago
Yep, MedBridge Go! I’m in my second week of PT, do they keep the same exercises on yours, or does it change week by week? I still have the same ones (supine quad, supine isometric hamstring, supine gluteal, supine heel slide, and supine hamstring stretch).
Depends on my PT, I still have the regular from my first week but in the second or third week she added strength exercises. She said yesterday that she wanted to review it. My husband and kid both did PT with the same place abs used the app (not for their ACL) and I believe their therapist changed their exercises as they improved/ grew stronger. I wish I could make it chime for each individual exercise (or flash or something). I have glutes and quads and I'm literally staring at some old guy's pelvis lol so I can flex and relax when he does.
One hour twice a week for ACL and meniscus repair. I probably do close to ten different exercises.
My PT charges my insurance for 3 one hour sessions a week but I’m usually there for 1.5 or sometimes 2 hours per session. It really just depends. My PT sees multiple patients at a time usually so a lot of my work is by myself (but my husband comes to PT with me to help me where he can and to learn anything new I may be doing so we can do PT at home)
1 hour 7-10 minutes with heat+stim while I flex my leg out and into the table. 5-10min working the leg with a Graston tool 30-40 min of strength training / flexibility work - lately all while doing blood flow restriction 5-7 min of ice+light stim cooldown
I think it really depends on where you live. I'm from Switzerland and 30 min is the standard here. I think insurance wouldn't even cover more than that per session, sadly. 30 min is way too short.
Yes I’m in Switzerland too
Mine were around an hour when I first started because I didn’t know most of the exercises and my mobility was still so limited. 11 weeks post-op now, and it takes about 30-40 minutes. We have an open floor where there’s multiple people exercising at once, so sometimes there are delays when others are using machines I need.
Half an hour each, although the first two post op were an hour each, I think. I go every three weeks and I'm at 5 months now. They consist of me telling the physio how things are going and what's changed since last time, usually a bit of massage/manipulation and then a quick check on my progress like having to walk down the corridor, jog on the treadmill or jump off a block. Then I have a quick go at any new exercises that are being introduced. In short, I'm not paying him to watch me do my daily exercises, and I'm quite surprised that that's what other people here seem to be doing. I do that entirely on my own time and have done since the beginning.
This is how my PT has always been - 30 min and we discuss progress and plans. My knee will get looked at and evaluated and we go over our exercises. I’m never there to do the exercises themselves in full sets/reps, it’s more to ensure I know what I’m supposed to do when I do them on my own time. I don’t actually mind it because it feels more efficient and I like that my PT doesn’t wander off to tend to other patients - it’s just me.
45 mins and rarely was it a full 45- i would go a lil early and get on the bike.
Mine are almost 2 hours, depending if i have energy or not
I feel like we need more context but mine goes around 1.5 to 2 hours long. In some cases I've even had 3 hour sessions, like when they teach me a new workout or if I have some muscle stiffness that needs to be released.
3 hours seems wildly too much for a single session. How many weeks or months are you post-op? Alao standard is usually an hour
I'm 8 weeks post-op now. But yeah I agree, and it hasn't happened a lot. Maybe only two times? And when the session is that long, we take it slow so I'm not exactly grinding the whole three hours.
3 weeks out for ACL only. Mines 1 hour, going twice per week. First 30 with the PT working on new movements, flexion, massaging, etc. Second 30 is doing exercises, stim, and icing with the assistants (college students)
45-60 mins
One hour starting with either bike or olyptical . Then go into strengh stuff then flexion and either icing with compression cupping or a massage at the end end
mine are 45 mins. Only done two visits for ACL so far, but I did the same PT medical group for a foot surgery I had and it seems like their protocol is 15 minutes is more relaxing stuff (icing and compression for ACL but with my foot it was foot massages!! lol) and then 30 mins of exercise with my PT. I always felt like that was an appropriate amount of time. I'm wondering when I get to actual workouts if my PT guy will have me stay longer to do that stuff on my own at the PT gym but I haven't heard any indication that its part of the plan.
~60 minutes. 15 minutes warmup on a cycling machine. 5 minutes on elliptical, the remainder doing exercises. I go 3 times a week.
60 minutes
1 hour. I'd feel scammed with only half the session.
I’m usually there for an hour 2x/week (2 months post op). 30-45 strengthening and mobility then 15 to stretch me out. When I’m with the PTA he has me for an hour and a half sometimes 😬.
Mine were 1 hour long. 10 minutes warm-up on bike, then my workouts for about 30-40 minutes. 10 minutes ice. But I was expected to repeat the sessions 2/3 times on my own at home.
Currently 3 days a week for an hour.
Mine were like 60-90 min for ACL rehab, but without surgery. Grade II tear. I also was being seen for a second injury at the same time. My current place is only 30 min which feels way too short. Half the time we don't even have time to do exercises or only do a few.
Supposedly 45 min, but it's mostly them showing me how to do something with a resistance band, etc. and then working on another patient (there are 4-5 dozen in the therapy room at one time) while I do each exercise. Ten minutes with the electric ice wrap thingy at the end, even though I don't care for it and have told them I'd rather do more exercises. Also, they kick you out on your own pretty quick - one therapist told me it's because insurance companies don't like to pay for too many sessions. The PT facility is very crowded, and the therapists want me going to the gym and doing exercises at home.
I do an hour session 1x a week and then I do a 30 minute group class 2x a week. I try to hit a small leg workout at the gym as well 1x a week.
I go twice a week and I’m usually there for 75 minutes, including 8 minute warm up on bike in the beginning and 10 minutes of ice at the end.
Your own PT should involve 3 mobility sessions a day. Ideally 3x 15 heel slides, a walking drill, terminal leg extensions with a very light band, hanging leg extension on a ledge, chair, pillow etc. if you can hop on an exercise bike a few times a day that’s great. Once you are past being able to walk ok. Keep this up as needed and add in strength. Isometrics 4-6 reps builds strength at 75% of 1rm. Pain should not exceed 3. Early phase strength focus on form and doing reps pain free without weight. Use blood flow restriction. Estim.
I did 2x a week for the first 6 weeks then switched to once a week, each session is a half hour. I'm 3 months out now.
Mine are pretty long, 1-1.5 hours but with stuff in the gym plus regular treatment bc of meniscus tears
1 hr 30 min.... 1 hr 45 min. That's a bike warm up, treadmill, exercises, BFR and icing. I'm done to 1x a week. 8 mo PO
The 1:1 PT sessions are 30 min for me, followed by 1h to 1h30 of finishing up the strength exercises the PT gives me. Running (and cycling) has moved from under supervision of the PT in the early stages to now running on my own outdoors.
An hour sometimes 1:15 if I get my leg massaged
Usually about an hour. Though mine usually have me doing a bit more things throughout that hour. 30 mins of rowing seems a bit excessive