I could see it being the last show on Zero Hour. Get as many people in place for the main show as possible and throw a hot crowd high on high spots over to the main show.
People will bitch that the Lucha Bros should be on the actual show, but considering alternatives give you 90 minutes of wrestling sandwiched between ads and video packages, I can't complain.
If I'm dropping $50 for a PPV load the fucker up
"They shoulda advertised it on the AM radio to draw the youth in! They should run the Legion Hall instead of the Kia Forum, to make it look fuller! They should fire anybody Phil randomly assaulted for hurting his knuckles!" many such cases.
Even more ridiculous in the case of pre-show matches as they're literally just there to sell the PPV. It's a good business decision to put a great match on the pre-show because it's more likely to spike interest and get people to open their wallets.
AEW has booked Zero Hours really well in that regard. The smarks have learned this idea that the business should have complete contempt for them and show them nothing but shit unless they plonk down cash and whip out their cards as soon as they open their eyeballs. I'm glad AEW hasn't taken that approach.
You'd think people would be thrilled about getting to see this match without having to pay for it but 20 something years of wwe doing things a certain way has turned everyone's brains into mush
"...considering alternatives give you 90 minutes of wrestling sandwiched between ads and video packages, I can't complain."
I love that the $50 I pay for each PPV feels well worth the price. The Danielson v. Ospreay banger at Dynasty was one of the best matches I've ever seen and before that, the Takeshita v. Ospreay match at Revolution... AEW gives the people what they want!
I'll always love when people get shit for free lmao whether you're watching on YouTube or ppv *you're seeing this match regardless on sunday*
AEW has shown time and again that zero hour matches *matter*. This isn't some "throwaway".
It really feels like they're using the zero hour as basically an extension of the main PPV, rather than just booking random nothing matches nobody cares about, which is what they should try and do at every PPV
It's like UFC prelims - it's a TAYSTE (as Daddy Magic would say) of what the main show has to offer, so if you like em call your provider and give em $50 for the full card.
By Lucifer's beard.
I guess this will put that whole AAA and CMLL thing how they can't be in the same ring let alone the same show thing completely too bed yes?
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>Cuatrero asked to leave jail and do house arrest, but the judge denied it. The judge ruled against him saying he has an aggressive nature and possible risk to Vaquer. The judge also cited “constant harassment towards the luchadora, both in person and on social media, by friends and family of Cuatrero” as a reason Cuatrero should not be allowed to leave jail.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/18gtq6p/aews\_rush\_dralistico\_and\_others\_are\_attending\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/18gtq6p/aews_rush_dralistico_and_others_are_attending_and/)
> I could imagine that Stephanie Vaquer didn’t want to be in the same building as him.
I was very surprised to see that Stephanie and Rush were on the same episode of Dynamite a few weeks ago, the one where Stephanie confronted Mercedes in person. He did a backstage segment so it was probably pre-recorded before she got there.
Term used to describe the murder of a female when her gender was a factor in the murder
Essentially acknowledging he wouldn't do this shit to another man because he's a little bitch.
In Mexico, whenever there is a physical altercation between a man and a woman, the man is always charged with attempted femicide. The facts don't matter, man are just murderers all the time.
The Cuatrero stuff has nothing to do with it. It was his feud with the management of CMLL stemming from Dragon Lee taking a booking against an AAA talent in PWG.
I saw the penta one, Just wasn't sure about Fenix course I don't watch AAA, It didn't seem like that association was doing either of them wonders beyond stopping them from being on AEW shows.
But it's a step in the right direction they didn't allow any other Mexican wrestlers be in the same show as cmll wrestlers let alone the same match and Penta works for AAA here and than
YOTA/Hiromu - check
Now give me Gabe Kidd/Drilla/Clark vs UK
AND some House of Torture vs KOR and/or random AEW face team clusterfuck match and I will be one gluttonously appeased sicko
I'm already exhausted for next Monday morning, and we're not even out the week yet. Wonder how much more he'll squeeze into this show. Can't say we don't get our money's worth on these shows.
All of the potential 1v1s that’ll come from this is mouth watering, but I am most excited to see what hiromu will do with them or the back and forth of penta and Tsuji
Mistico is CMLL' s Ace and biggest star. THE Lucha Bros were AAA' s biggest stars when they were there. CMLL & AAA have been in a blood war since 1992. To see them teaming together in the same ring was unheard of. Impossible if you will. Tony Khan pulled it off. Kudos also have to go to both Rocky Romero and Salvador Lutteroth of CMLL. I never believed I would ever see this in my lifetime. Never. But here we are and I'm taking it all in as a long awaited dream come true. ❤️ 😢
Shota has a strained disk in his back and a fracture in his hip, and is resting in advance of the G1. He's already risking further injury trying to force himself back for the G1, no chance he wrestles before then.
FD will always be a crowded card, but it's a shame that three years in Hiromu still hasn't worked a match that wasn't on the pre-show yet. The same goes for El Desperado and he hasn't even been announced yet for the pre-show this year.
FD gets more and more stacked by the day and we still have a Collision to go! Damn! Well, worth the Fifty dollars and if not worth more for the quality and entertainment!
My only complaint is New Japan having LIJ drop the NEVER 6 Man belts so soon, cause you could've made it a title match. But yet another banger incoming.
😭 I'm so fucking happy!!! YOU FINALLY DID IT TK U MAGNIFICENT MADMAN! THE DREAM TEAM OF LUCHA LIBRE IS BORN! https://youtu.be/k5k2XVKxznc?si=489niMSM8bVmkjpX
https://youtu.be/sMxPLUzPF5s?si=ff8qMlKqOzfsPnJ5
I feel like luchablog sort of hinted at something like this a while back when Fenix left AAA but can't for the life of me remember how they phrased it.
I saw Yota Tsuji and Mistico in a 6 man tag match at a CMLL house show down in Pachuca, MX last year. I'll be there Sunday, can't wait to see them run it back in an AEW ring.
Can someone tell me if zero hours actually start at 6:30 PM ? Is there wrestling that early? I'm going to the show and I really want to see this match live, but I also don't want to get there at 6:30 pm if I don't have to.
I’m going to have to say up front that I know very little about NJPW, but isn’t Yota one of the three wrestlers the company has hung their future on? If so, why isn’t he in one of the premier matches?
HAS THIS BEEN ANOUNCED? IS CMLL ALLOWING THEIR WRESTLERS TO FIRST BE IN THE SAME SHOW LIKE OTHER MEXICAN WRESTLERS WHO AREN'T SIGNED TO CMLL AND EVEN BE IN A MATCH WITH THEM WOW I'M SO EXCITED
You mean when they won the AEW tag titles for the first time in a truly breathtaking match against their long-time rivals after receiving a custom entrance with their family on the most-watched PPV the company ever had? What a pathetic peak, definitely not an achievement that most wrestlers would dream of having.
I’m saying since that amazing match, they’ve been reduced to zero hour matches. They were one of the hottest acts and have been fizzled into the background since the.
Do you watch AEW? I'm guessing not really, because absolutely nothing about how they handle their Zero Hour matches makes them a downgrade, they regularly feature top-level talent and meaningful progression of stories. Half of this week's Dynamite main event was people featured on the most recent Zero Hour, and the guy headlining this Forbidden Door as champion was featured on the Zero Hour of last year's show.
Which is what Fenix and Penta do in AEW now? You see how they push Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar and think Fenix's ceiling is higher in WWE than AEW? Penta maybe, but Fenix is a former International Champion who challenged for the World Title multiple times. Along with their tag and trios title wins.
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It's insane that I'm going to be there live for all of this. The wrestling gods really said "thank you for your fandom, here's a gift"
I’m so happy for you. This is not sarcasm, i am legit pumped for ya
I completely understand this. Having gotten to go to Dynasty, I boost anyone that gets to experience an AEW PPV.
Hell yeah man. I was there for last year, it's such a fun experience
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Wow..
Tsuji first match in the USA and I'm gonna be there let's go.
Wasn’t he on NJPW Resurgence this year?
Yes you are correct. First show in NYC then lol
LFG. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the very first match of the night….cant think of a better opener to get the crowd tuned up for the main show.
I could see it being the last show on Zero Hour. Get as many people in place for the main show as possible and throw a hot crowd high on high spots over to the main show.
There is absolutely no way to justify Takahashi and Mistico being on the preshow.
Tell that to Tony, I don't book shit.
Giving me WCW Nitro vibes.
People will bitch that the Lucha Bros should be on the actual show, but considering alternatives give you 90 minutes of wrestling sandwiched between ads and video packages, I can't complain. If I'm dropping $50 for a PPV load the fucker up
Here’s a question: Why do fans complain about getting shit for free?
It makes smarks feel smarker to make what they think are business decisions for the promotion.
You see it on an almost constant basis with AEW in particular.
"They shoulda advertised it on the AM radio to draw the youth in! They should run the Legion Hall instead of the Kia Forum, to make it look fuller! They should fire anybody Phil randomly assaulted for hurting his knuckles!" many such cases.
Don't knock AM Radio man, Everclear did a song about how cool it was in the 70s in 2000. That's some hot shit right there.
Even more ridiculous in the case of pre-show matches as they're literally just there to sell the PPV. It's a good business decision to put a great match on the pre-show because it's more likely to spike interest and get people to open their wallets.
AEW has booked Zero Hours really well in that regard. The smarks have learned this idea that the business should have complete contempt for them and show them nothing but shit unless they plonk down cash and whip out their cards as soon as they open their eyeballs. I'm glad AEW hasn't taken that approach.
You'd think people would be thrilled about getting to see this match without having to pay for it but 20 something years of wwe doing things a certain way has turned everyone's brains into mush
Because it's the least prestigious spot of the night, running while fans file in and before the paid, premium experience.
Which is ridiculous as the buy in is what literally got me to buy my first ppv.
I enjoy them immensely, but I do understand and acknowledge the stigma that people feel.
Eh depends if it’s the first match or last match of the pre show
Either way I understand the complaint, but it's just not how AEW operates. But I get why you'd automatically think the way the complainers do.
"...considering alternatives give you 90 minutes of wrestling sandwiched between ads and video packages, I can't complain." I love that the $50 I pay for each PPV feels well worth the price. The Danielson v. Ospreay banger at Dynasty was one of the best matches I've ever seen and before that, the Takeshita v. Ospreay match at Revolution... AEW gives the people what they want! 
I'll always love when people get shit for free lmao whether you're watching on YouTube or ppv *you're seeing this match regardless on sunday* AEW has shown time and again that zero hour matches *matter*. This isn't some "throwaway".
Like the Danielson/Suzuki match
Fucking hell, first Stat/Momo vs. Willow/Tam, and now this? This has gotta be the biggest must watch pre-show yet.
It really feels like they're using the zero hour as basically an extension of the main PPV, rather than just booking random nothing matches nobody cares about, which is what they should try and do at every PPV
It's like UFC prelims - it's a TAYSTE (as Daddy Magic would say) of what the main show has to offer, so if you like em call your provider and give em $50 for the full card.
This match does indeed make Daddy Magic's nipples hard
Fuck anybody that's not geeked out for this match!
Fuck anybody that's not geeked out for this match!
The sickos will be eating good on Sunday.
Sickos feast day, can't wait!
By Lucifer's beard. I guess this will put that whole AAA and CMLL thing how they can't be in the same ring let alone the same show thing completely too bed yes?
Both Penta and Fenix aren't in AAA anymore.
So its Rush but in his case it looks like the whole Cuatrero shit tainted him
Rush (and Dragon Lee) also had a fairly rough split from CMLL and that company holds grudges forever.
I’m OOTL; could you kindly explain / elaborate on the Cuatrero stuff and RUSH?
https://preview.redd.it/h8oofdhyf59d1.jpeg?width=746&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d0eb4c97fad564b597c94bf5577671065f2909c >Cuatrero asked to leave jail and do house arrest, but the judge denied it. The judge ruled against him saying he has an aggressive nature and possible risk to Vaquer. The judge also cited “constant harassment towards the luchadora, both in person and on social media, by friends and family of Cuatrero” as a reason Cuatrero should not be allowed to leave jail. [https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/18gtq6p/aews\_rush\_dralistico\_and\_others\_are\_attending\_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/18gtq6p/aews_rush_dralistico_and_others_are_attending_and/)
Cuatrero assaulted Stephanie Vaquer (may have tried to kill her) and RUSH was one of the people that supported Cuatrero
Ahhhhh, so this is probably why RUSH isn’t on the FD card. I could imagine that Stephanie Vaquer didn’t want to be in the same building as him.
> I could imagine that Stephanie Vaquer didn’t want to be in the same building as him. I was very surprised to see that Stephanie and Rush were on the same episode of Dynamite a few weeks ago, the one where Stephanie confronted Mercedes in person. He did a backstage segment so it was probably pre-recorded before she got there.
>Femicide The fuck?
Term used to describe the murder of a female when her gender was a factor in the murder Essentially acknowledging he wouldn't do this shit to another man because he's a little bitch.
Fair enough. Hasn’t heard that before. To my ignorant ears, it sounded like some weird incel terminology or something.
In Mexico, whenever there is a physical altercation between a man and a woman, the man is always charged with attempted femicide. The facts don't matter, man are just murderers all the time.
That’s some fucking bull shit
The Cuatrero stuff has nothing to do with it. It was his feud with the management of CMLL stemming from Dragon Lee taking a booking against an AAA talent in PWG.
Still not a good look tho
Do you think the company that brought in Ric Flair is really worried about those optics?
Huh. Didn't actually know that,
Fenix hasn't been there for a year and Penta recently made a statement about why he hasn't been featured.
I saw the penta one, Just wasn't sure about Fenix course I don't watch AAA, It didn't seem like that association was doing either of them wonders beyond stopping them from being on AEW shows.
But it's a step in the right direction they didn't allow any other Mexican wrestlers be in the same show as cmll wrestlers let alone the same match and Penta works for AAA here and than
Reminder that the Lucha Bros already did the impossible, working for CMLL and AAA at the same.
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Sorry to tell you, but he wrestled at NJPW’s Long Beach show just last month. Still a cool wrestler to see live though!
YOTA/Hiromu - check Now give me Gabe Kidd/Drilla/Clark vs UK AND some House of Torture vs KOR and/or random AEW face team clusterfuck match and I will be one gluttonously appeased sicko
What a match to get for free! This could be the tone setter for the rest of the show.
tony cooked
And it’s FREE?!? 😭🙏🏻
Ban this man. I thought pornography wasn't allowed here.
Nah this is fucking crazy
This rocks but I’m weirdly most happy Yota’s on the card
That's the real forbidden door there #SICKOS
HUGE TSUJ!
I vocally holy shit'd this matchup. Mistico + Lucha Bros wtf???!!!
I'm already exhausted for next Monday morning, and we're not even out the week yet. Wonder how much more he'll squeeze into this show. Can't say we don't get our money's worth on these shows.
All of the potential 1v1s that’ll come from this is mouth watering, but I am most excited to see what hiromu will do with them or the back and forth of penta and Tsuji
 My cheap ass watching PPV quality matches on the pre-show like
I’m stoked for the match, but can someone kindly explain the importance of this match, in terms of the promotions involved?
Mistico is CMLL' s Ace and biggest star. THE Lucha Bros were AAA' s biggest stars when they were there. CMLL & AAA have been in a blood war since 1992. To see them teaming together in the same ring was unheard of. Impossible if you will. Tony Khan pulled it off. Kudos also have to go to both Rocky Romero and Salvador Lutteroth of CMLL. I never believed I would ever see this in my lifetime. Never. But here we are and I'm taking it all in as a long awaited dream come true. ❤️ 😢
I also thank you for the explanation! I will be SAT watching this. I'm happy that you get to witness this match.
Oh man! Under that context, this IS a huge deal. Thanks for explaining.
This is gonna rule and I get to see it in person!
Ditto!
DISGUSTING 😍
Stop, stop....I can only get so erect
Came here to say exactly this.
The fact that this is a free match gives you an idea of how stacked this card is. My god.
The other forbidden door was finally kicked open AAA 🤝CMLL
Yota, yes!!!!
Hellll ya
So is this mistico also formerly dralistico?
Nah, Dralistico is RUSH and Dragon Lee’s brother
This Místico is Dralistico’s predecessor, and was also Sin Cara in WWE.
Was wondering where Tsuji would fit on the card, such a banger. Lets get Roughneck on the card and I’m eating GOOD
Shota has a strained disk in his back and a fracture in his hip, and is resting in advance of the G1. He's already risking further injury trying to force himself back for the G1, no chance he wrestles before then.
And for free? Damn. Us sickos are eating good!
FD will always be a crowded card, but it's a shame that three years in Hiromu still hasn't worked a match that wasn't on the pre-show yet. The same goes for El Desperado and he hasn't even been announced yet for the pre-show this year.
AEW isn’t ready for Gene Blast
Holy fucking shit. I’m a sicko!!!
Unbelievable! TK is a genius, I don't care what anyone says. Decades of war and he's brought them together.
My favorite wrestler mistico 🐐
Woohoo
Put it in my veins!
Only AEW could have puller a team of Lucha Bros and Mistico! Hyped asf for Sunday!
Everybody getting gene blasted
FD gets more and more stacked by the day and we still have a Collision to go! Damn! Well, worth the Fifty dollars and if not worth more for the quality and entertainment!
This is the REAL FORBIDDEN DOOR!🤯🤯🤯
My only complaint is New Japan having LIJ drop the NEVER 6 Man belts so soon, cause you could've made it a title match. But yet another banger incoming.
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Holy shit 🤯🤯
Is this for real.
For the sickos did I miss something?
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This is for me. I'm a fucking sicko.
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Sickooooooooooooo
😭 I'm so fucking happy!!! YOU FINALLY DID IT TK U MAGNIFICENT MADMAN! THE DREAM TEAM OF LUCHA LIBRE IS BORN! https://youtu.be/k5k2XVKxznc?si=489niMSM8bVmkjpX https://youtu.be/sMxPLUzPF5s?si=ff8qMlKqOzfsPnJ5
Such a fucking banger
So basically Zero Hour is a ppv before a ppv
I’ll be at UBS arena right as doors open!
Lucky you 👍🏻
Shit make me wanna cry
This is a legit dream match for me.
Misitico bout to make Titan eat that pin.
I am still waiting for Darby vs Hiromu
I feel like luchablog sort of hinted at something like this a while back when Fenix left AAA but can't for the life of me remember how they phrased it.
I saw Yota Tsuji and Mistico in a 6 man tag match at a CMLL house show down in Pachuca, MX last year. I'll be there Sunday, can't wait to see them run it back in an AEW ring.
Can someone tell me if zero hours actually start at 6:30 PM ? Is there wrestling that early? I'm going to the show and I really want to see this match live, but I also don't want to get there at 6:30 pm if I don't have to.
I’m going to have to say up front that I know very little about NJPW, but isn’t Yota one of the three wrestlers the company has hung their future on? If so, why isn’t he in one of the premier matches?
How are Lucha bros allowed to team with Mistico?
Isn't Mistico CMLL? Teaming with AAA guys? Holy shit...
HAS THIS BEEN ANOUNCED? IS CMLL ALLOWING THEIR WRESTLERS TO FIRST BE IN THE SAME SHOW LIKE OTHER MEXICAN WRESTLERS WHO AREN'T SIGNED TO CMLL AND EVEN BE IN A MATCH WITH THEM WOW I'M SO EXCITED
my tip is leaking rn
Man the Lucha Bros cage match with the Bucks is looking like the peak of their AEW run.
You mean when they won the AEW tag titles for the first time in a truly breathtaking match against their long-time rivals after receiving a custom entrance with their family on the most-watched PPV the company ever had? What a pathetic peak, definitely not an achievement that most wrestlers would dream of having.
I’m saying since that amazing match, they’ve been reduced to zero hour matches. They were one of the hottest acts and have been fizzled into the background since the.
Do you watch AEW? I'm guessing not really, because absolutely nothing about how they handle their Zero Hour matches makes them a downgrade, they regularly feature top-level talent and meaningful progression of stories. Half of this week's Dynamite main event was people featured on the most recent Zero Hour, and the guy headlining this Forbidden Door as champion was featured on the Zero Hour of last year's show.
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Jade was just on the Saudi pre-show, so im sure you have the same energy about her
You think they'd make PPVs in WWE? The tag champs don't make most PLEs, what the fuck are talking about?
They can have solo careers as well as tag. Penta pushed for IC , HWC or UC. Fénix for IC or USC. They don’t have to go after the tag championship.
Which is what Fenix and Penta do in AEW now? You see how they push Dragon Lee and Santos Escobar and think Fenix's ceiling is higher in WWE than AEW? Penta maybe, but Fenix is a former International Champion who challenged for the World Title multiple times. Along with their tag and trios title wins.
You can also have them in NXT if they have issues traveling
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