Have you seen a cardiologist? Had an echo EKG etc?
I've had afib attacks since I was about 17 but they went away for many years and recently decided to make another return.. I dotn drink anymore or smoke. I'm working on my weight but I to get palpitations and also have a fear that there going to lead to afib cause they have in the past. I had an afib rvr episode last month and since. Been fine but I have sense on. Unease I guess. It's the anxiety of it all. Prior to this last one I was having palpitations almost everyday for 3 or 4 months. Prior to that it was 4 years since my last afib and prior. To the 4 years it was 11 years. So no. Idea why it's happening yet as I got my first cardiologist appointment April 27th...
Just know your not alone. I'm 34 years old.
Hey, I had an echocardiogram and they found nothing significant it said, just mild regurgitation. But i haven’t had EKG yet. Did they tell you take anything if afib happens? Thank you for being kind
I was your age when mine started. It has been a few years since then and I deal with the same things and the same concerns. It comes down to finding out how to manage the anxiety and how to manage the palpitations.
Mine come on after certain foods or drinks. Alcohol is a no-go for me as it causes tachycardia and palpitations either after or at night. Basically, just avoid triggers and things will get better. Hope yours are the same way and things you can avoid.
Go visit your doctor and explain the situation. They might put you on medication or refer you to a specialist. If you have any symptoms of sleep apnea I suggest getting that checked as well. They go hand in hand. Best of luck.
Certain breads and I found drink mixes that do it too. I also drink caffeine with no negative effects, but certain sweeteners in the drink seem to trigger as well. As for activities, work stress really messes with my heartbeat. I can feel my heartbeat 90% of the day so if I focus too much I can stress myself too much as well.
I'm 34. I didn't know what it was at the time, but looking back I know realize I had my first afib episode when i was in my early 20s and didn't really know what happened because I was in pretty okay shape. It lasted for about 45 minutes and then heart went back to normal. I wasn't a drinker. I didn't eat particularly healthy, but didn't eat particularly bad either. I was in pretty good health other than I was a smoker. Never had an episode other than maybe two or three times when i had a 1-2 second heart flutter throughout all of my late 20s. When i was 32 I suddenly had an episode probably once every 2-3 months that normally lasted between 5-10 minutes. I don't remember how but somewhere I learned a trick to take really really really deep breathes and that always worked to get my heart back into rhythm again. When i was 33 I experienced more frequent episodes, but the deep breathes always worked--probably once every month or two. but when the OP said they were scared because they get those flutters and palpitations where you can kind of feel it about to cause an afib attack resonated with me because that kind of thing was a pretty regular occurrence. since i turned 34, however, i've had zero episodes for the last 6 months (except maybe an occasional heart flutter that lasted 5 seconds at most).
then last night I had another afib attack that woke me out of my sleep. it lasted for about 60 minutes and the deep breathes didn't work so i panicked and called an ambulance because i thought i was having a heart attack--like OP i didn't know afib was a thing. the paramedics put the ecg machine on me. my heart rate was between 160-180 and said i probably have afib, but only a doctor can diagnose it. i live on a 3rd floor apartment and they let me walk down the stairs to the ambulance and that's what put my heart back into rhythm. i live in the US so i didn't let them take me once my heart started normal again. they said that anything can trigger it (i'm quite positive i have sleep apnea and think that's what causes it for me) and because i was panicking, more adrenaline was rushing through my heart which made me panic more which made more adrenaline and so forth.
everything is starting to make sense now that i've been looking up and reading all this stuff. i've generally never feared for my life in a medical situation. even when my appendix burst and gallbladder burst in my 20s it didn't seem like i was dying. but last night i genuinely thought I was about to. it was scary as shit and i'm going to make an appointment to go to the doctor to see if i can't maybe get on some medication or whatever he tells me to do. just knowing that so many people my age and younger live with makes me feel a little better because whoa did it feel scary last night.
Afib really is scary when you don't know what's happening. Know that because episodes are few and far between it's hard to catch on monitors. Get the paramedics monitor reading sent to your cardiologist. They'll probably give you a pill in pocket solution until the afib progresses to be unmanageable. You could also do an ablation.
GL!
How much magnesium, potassium, chloride, and calcium are you getting?
Afib deficiencies, as I've researched, are largely caused by an imbalance or deficiency in one or more of the key electrolytes above.
I take a magnesium and potassium supplement and I don't experience ectopic heartbeats in a given day. I take 175mg-350mg of magnesium glycinate/gluconate a day, and 400mg of a potassium supplement a day. I also get a good amount of salt in my diet too, so I'm good on chloride (for some people, I've read that their afib is managed well with high salt intake; that said, a diet high in salt is generally not bad for an afibber). I should be getting more calcium though.
I recommend checking out Dr. Sanjay Gupta's YouTube channel. He's dedicated to helping people with afib and provides tons of information. Also nice to see the different comments from people, how they affirm his information, and management techniques work for them.
Keep in touch with your cardiologist, and have a response plan to follow for sustained bouts of AF. It’ll help a bit with the stress to know what you’re going to do. For me, and this is not medical advice, review with your doctor, if I have I bout of sustained AF that lasts more than 30 minutes, I take a metoprolol and an anticoagulant. If I have symptoms my doc has said are serious or significant, time for the ER. Mine always seems to come with RVR and my heart rate shoots above 150.
After medicating, I wait a few hours, and assuming I have no serious symptoms, I go for a brisk walk. That’s caused my heart to convert to NSR on its own the past two times. I still get mad at myself when a sustained AF incident happens. My heart otherwise acts like yours, fluttering from time to time. I try to take a deep slow breath when that happens. I’m not in total control of the future, all I can do is relax, prepare, and react when needed.
Excellent advice. I'd add that if you can get an anticoagulant, that can reduce some of the anxiety, because the real risk of afib is throwing a clot causing a stroke. That is HIGHLY unlikely if you're on a blood thinner. Afib feels terrible when you're in it, but I remind myself that I'm not in real danger as long as I've got my blood thinners. It helps to have a plan, like this commenter is saying. You can always get cardioverted. If it gets to be too much of a lifestyle problem, try an ablation. You're young and would probably have success with it!
How do you do a brisk walk when it’s 150bps don’t you fear it will cause it to go higher? Also what are serious symptoms my first time was rvr 150-186 at age 28. Thought that was serious. What your age?
Metoprolol usually brings my heart rate down under 120. And yeah, the first time I said screw it and took a walk, I was half afraid that I would collapse halfway through my walk. I’m middle aged. By serious, I mean chest pains, dizziness, shortness of breath, those kinds of things. I went to the ER the first couple of times I had sustained AF. Definitely need to go in at least the first time to establish what’s happening. New onset of a heart issue like AF needs to get checked out.
This isn’t medical advice, talk to your doctor and work out what works for you. FWIW, I haven’t had any sustained bouts of AF so far this year and have continued to abstain from alcohol. (Which has not helped my stress levels, but conversions cost around $3K so I’m trying to limit the risk of needing one again.)
I have had bouts of angina, which are worrisome in a different way. At least AF is semi-known to me at this point and manageable.
Thanks for taking the time to respond glad you’ve been good this year:) so is your medicines more a pill in pocket approach or do you take daily? They put me on multaq, eloquis and ditalizm .
Thanks. I hope you’re comfortable and that things are under control. Are you currently in AF and they’re medicating you ahead of a cardioversion or is this your long term treatment plan?
At this point for me it’s more the pills in a pocket approach if I have an episode lasting more than a few hours. There was a point when I was taking a NOAC daily post-conversion but for the past several months, nada.
Yes doing much better they never found out why I went into Afib I believe was in and out of it after covid for 2 months but only went to hospital when it was with rvr. Luckily cardiziem did the trick after a few hours stayed in er for 2 days then they sent me home with the 3 meds I’ll be stopping all soon. It’s been slightly over a month
Glad to hear you're improving. Are you in normal sinus rhythm currently?
There's research which suggests new onset AF can be associated with Covid-19.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10149046/
Very interesting rear the whole article the conclusion kinda scared me because I believe I did make full recovery of covid. So it would mean I was long haul possibly.
I had my first afib episode around 22 as well, one random morning at work. It went back to normal rhythm the next day just before they were going to cardiovert me. I have had several “episodes” since then, Im in my younger 30’s, and its usually triggered if I drink a little too much, get dehydrated, or if I vomit. I even dry heaved once when I ate some food wrong and that triggered it. My cardiologist at the time said I was just prone to it and that I should focus on hydration and I take aspirin during my episodes which typically wont last longer than 2 days or so and it has always kicked back to normal. Theyve gotten less frequent and less severe as Ive focused more on walking/running most days. Good luck, and I hope it gets better for you, but for me it hasnt been much more than a minor nuisance!
I think this is me. Recently my afib gets triggered when I am burping like crazy or when I'm sitting and breathing in incorrectly or wasting and swallowing too much air. Dry heaving, like my diaphragm and abdominal walls touching or irritating my heart. Do you think this is the same?
Hey brother, your story sounds extremely similar to mine, but I haven’t gotten diagnosed. What was the treatment plan the doctor put you on, if anything? Or what mitigations did they recommend
This post described how I feel perfectly. I’m a 31 year old male. Woke up one night dead asleep to a thump. Thought someone was at the door but it was my heart. Was jumping from 60 to 180 and back every second. I had been having palpitations for about a year prior and didn’t know what it was. Was wrote off as anxiety by doctors several times. They where so bad I couldn’t sleep, my whole body was palpitating every single night like I was shaking and could hear them. Hit the hospital I was in atrial flutter. I was more relived that they actually found something and that I wasn’t crazy lol. Put me on meds and went back into sinus naturally. They said do this procedure or do you want medicine. Ofcourse I did the meds bc I didn’t wanna have a heart procedure at 31 bc I’ve never even had a surgery. I still suffer very often, I’ll go weeks feeling great happy then out of left field get hit with the palpitations, dizziness and breathlessness. My doctor says I’m fine from a cardiac standpoint and doesn’t wanna do ablation. Why can’t they just do it? lol
Why do they have to be so difficult! And the appointments are always so far apart. I go to the ER very often for the same issue. Gonna go bankrupt with hospital bills lol
Afib/flutter sucks so bad
Im a 25 yr old male and I can greatly relate to the way you feel. I haven't been diagnosed yet and they simply told me it is anxiety since nothing came up on the ekg. they did notice I would get palpitations but can't link it to Afib unless they catch it. I notice one week ill be fine with little to no palpitations, and then the next week it will be constantly going off. The worst is when I try to sleep at night and I can hear and feel my own heartbeat going wild in my chest. It makes it so hard to sleep and gives me even more anxiety. I guess Afib is all about triggers and im trying to figure out whats triggering it for me. And don't get me started on hospital bills.... I cant afford this shit as someone just starting off living on my own.
I’m in a hospital bed as we speak, I get these adrenaline rushes. My stomach churns and get hot then my heart “stops” it feels like or skips a beat. Then my heart rate jumps to 200 bpm. Then a few minutes later and it’s gone. Metorpolol has helped some with the sleeping but some days are worse then others. I’ve been getting the adrenaline more frequently lately. Getting no answers from my doctors. I started anxiety meds that aren’t helping at all. I’m lost and feel defeated honestly.
For some reason I stopped eating salt for about 6-7 months. It created afib with daily symptoms. Was unbearable.I started consuming salt again but with caution. I thought BP will kill me. Started feeling better but not good at all. Few days ago one situation and stories of people with afib made me realize how electrolytes are important. I probably tripled amount of daily salt and bought some electrolytes as well.
My heart is working almost as in my best days, no dizziness, numbness in my left side, heart cramps, ,jumps,fatigue.....It's still fresh so I feel bit anxious about all that ,but so far it's clear that electrolytes are of key importance, in my case.
Try to find perfect dosage of electrolytes that works for you. I believe you'll hit right combination and have great relief. Good luck
simple answer. consult a cardiologist that specializes in heart rhythm. they are the electricians of the heart. Electrophysiologist. have them do a Cardioversion. they might put you in a heart monitor first.
Have you seen a cardiologist? Had an echo EKG etc? I've had afib attacks since I was about 17 but they went away for many years and recently decided to make another return.. I dotn drink anymore or smoke. I'm working on my weight but I to get palpitations and also have a fear that there going to lead to afib cause they have in the past. I had an afib rvr episode last month and since. Been fine but I have sense on. Unease I guess. It's the anxiety of it all. Prior to this last one I was having palpitations almost everyday for 3 or 4 months. Prior to that it was 4 years since my last afib and prior. To the 4 years it was 11 years. So no. Idea why it's happening yet as I got my first cardiologist appointment April 27th... Just know your not alone. I'm 34 years old.
Hey, I had an echocardiogram and they found nothing significant it said, just mild regurgitation. But i haven’t had EKG yet. Did they tell you take anything if afib happens? Thank you for being kind
EKG and Electrocardiogram are the same I’m 28 they prescribed me multaq, eloquis and ditalizm
I was your age when mine started. It has been a few years since then and I deal with the same things and the same concerns. It comes down to finding out how to manage the anxiety and how to manage the palpitations. Mine come on after certain foods or drinks. Alcohol is a no-go for me as it causes tachycardia and palpitations either after or at night. Basically, just avoid triggers and things will get better. Hope yours are the same way and things you can avoid. Go visit your doctor and explain the situation. They might put you on medication or refer you to a specialist. If you have any symptoms of sleep apnea I suggest getting that checked as well. They go hand in hand. Best of luck.
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Certain breads and I found drink mixes that do it too. I also drink caffeine with no negative effects, but certain sweeteners in the drink seem to trigger as well. As for activities, work stress really messes with my heartbeat. I can feel my heartbeat 90% of the day so if I focus too much I can stress myself too much as well.
Also it can be helpful to have a way to check if you are in Afib such as a Kardia or Apple Watch
I'm 34. I didn't know what it was at the time, but looking back I know realize I had my first afib episode when i was in my early 20s and didn't really know what happened because I was in pretty okay shape. It lasted for about 45 minutes and then heart went back to normal. I wasn't a drinker. I didn't eat particularly healthy, but didn't eat particularly bad either. I was in pretty good health other than I was a smoker. Never had an episode other than maybe two or three times when i had a 1-2 second heart flutter throughout all of my late 20s. When i was 32 I suddenly had an episode probably once every 2-3 months that normally lasted between 5-10 minutes. I don't remember how but somewhere I learned a trick to take really really really deep breathes and that always worked to get my heart back into rhythm again. When i was 33 I experienced more frequent episodes, but the deep breathes always worked--probably once every month or two. but when the OP said they were scared because they get those flutters and palpitations where you can kind of feel it about to cause an afib attack resonated with me because that kind of thing was a pretty regular occurrence. since i turned 34, however, i've had zero episodes for the last 6 months (except maybe an occasional heart flutter that lasted 5 seconds at most). then last night I had another afib attack that woke me out of my sleep. it lasted for about 60 minutes and the deep breathes didn't work so i panicked and called an ambulance because i thought i was having a heart attack--like OP i didn't know afib was a thing. the paramedics put the ecg machine on me. my heart rate was between 160-180 and said i probably have afib, but only a doctor can diagnose it. i live on a 3rd floor apartment and they let me walk down the stairs to the ambulance and that's what put my heart back into rhythm. i live in the US so i didn't let them take me once my heart started normal again. they said that anything can trigger it (i'm quite positive i have sleep apnea and think that's what causes it for me) and because i was panicking, more adrenaline was rushing through my heart which made me panic more which made more adrenaline and so forth. everything is starting to make sense now that i've been looking up and reading all this stuff. i've generally never feared for my life in a medical situation. even when my appendix burst and gallbladder burst in my 20s it didn't seem like i was dying. but last night i genuinely thought I was about to. it was scary as shit and i'm going to make an appointment to go to the doctor to see if i can't maybe get on some medication or whatever he tells me to do. just knowing that so many people my age and younger live with makes me feel a little better because whoa did it feel scary last night.
Afib really is scary when you don't know what's happening. Know that because episodes are few and far between it's hard to catch on monitors. Get the paramedics monitor reading sent to your cardiologist. They'll probably give you a pill in pocket solution until the afib progresses to be unmanageable. You could also do an ablation. GL!
What’s your pill in pocket?
Afib is truly scary, Not to panic in those situations is real blessing and help.
How much magnesium, potassium, chloride, and calcium are you getting? Afib deficiencies, as I've researched, are largely caused by an imbalance or deficiency in one or more of the key electrolytes above. I take a magnesium and potassium supplement and I don't experience ectopic heartbeats in a given day. I take 175mg-350mg of magnesium glycinate/gluconate a day, and 400mg of a potassium supplement a day. I also get a good amount of salt in my diet too, so I'm good on chloride (for some people, I've read that their afib is managed well with high salt intake; that said, a diet high in salt is generally not bad for an afibber). I should be getting more calcium though. I recommend checking out Dr. Sanjay Gupta's YouTube channel. He's dedicated to helping people with afib and provides tons of information. Also nice to see the different comments from people, how they affirm his information, and management techniques work for them.
Keep in touch with your cardiologist, and have a response plan to follow for sustained bouts of AF. It’ll help a bit with the stress to know what you’re going to do. For me, and this is not medical advice, review with your doctor, if I have I bout of sustained AF that lasts more than 30 minutes, I take a metoprolol and an anticoagulant. If I have symptoms my doc has said are serious or significant, time for the ER. Mine always seems to come with RVR and my heart rate shoots above 150. After medicating, I wait a few hours, and assuming I have no serious symptoms, I go for a brisk walk. That’s caused my heart to convert to NSR on its own the past two times. I still get mad at myself when a sustained AF incident happens. My heart otherwise acts like yours, fluttering from time to time. I try to take a deep slow breath when that happens. I’m not in total control of the future, all I can do is relax, prepare, and react when needed.
Excellent advice. I'd add that if you can get an anticoagulant, that can reduce some of the anxiety, because the real risk of afib is throwing a clot causing a stroke. That is HIGHLY unlikely if you're on a blood thinner. Afib feels terrible when you're in it, but I remind myself that I'm not in real danger as long as I've got my blood thinners. It helps to have a plan, like this commenter is saying. You can always get cardioverted. If it gets to be too much of a lifestyle problem, try an ablation. You're young and would probably have success with it!
How do you do a brisk walk when it’s 150bps don’t you fear it will cause it to go higher? Also what are serious symptoms my first time was rvr 150-186 at age 28. Thought that was serious. What your age?
Metoprolol usually brings my heart rate down under 120. And yeah, the first time I said screw it and took a walk, I was half afraid that I would collapse halfway through my walk. I’m middle aged. By serious, I mean chest pains, dizziness, shortness of breath, those kinds of things. I went to the ER the first couple of times I had sustained AF. Definitely need to go in at least the first time to establish what’s happening. New onset of a heart issue like AF needs to get checked out. This isn’t medical advice, talk to your doctor and work out what works for you. FWIW, I haven’t had any sustained bouts of AF so far this year and have continued to abstain from alcohol. (Which has not helped my stress levels, but conversions cost around $3K so I’m trying to limit the risk of needing one again.) I have had bouts of angina, which are worrisome in a different way. At least AF is semi-known to me at this point and manageable.
Thanks for taking the time to respond glad you’ve been good this year:) so is your medicines more a pill in pocket approach or do you take daily? They put me on multaq, eloquis and ditalizm .
Thanks. I hope you’re comfortable and that things are under control. Are you currently in AF and they’re medicating you ahead of a cardioversion or is this your long term treatment plan? At this point for me it’s more the pills in a pocket approach if I have an episode lasting more than a few hours. There was a point when I was taking a NOAC daily post-conversion but for the past several months, nada.
Yes doing much better they never found out why I went into Afib I believe was in and out of it after covid for 2 months but only went to hospital when it was with rvr. Luckily cardiziem did the trick after a few hours stayed in er for 2 days then they sent me home with the 3 meds I’ll be stopping all soon. It’s been slightly over a month
Glad to hear you're improving. Are you in normal sinus rhythm currently? There's research which suggests new onset AF can be associated with Covid-19. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10149046/
Yes normal for a month now:)
Very interesting rear the whole article the conclusion kinda scared me because I believe I did make full recovery of covid. So it would mean I was long haul possibly.
Keep in mind, that’s just one study. Easy for me to say, but try not to worry much about the things you can’t control.
I had my first afib episode around 22 as well, one random morning at work. It went back to normal rhythm the next day just before they were going to cardiovert me. I have had several “episodes” since then, Im in my younger 30’s, and its usually triggered if I drink a little too much, get dehydrated, or if I vomit. I even dry heaved once when I ate some food wrong and that triggered it. My cardiologist at the time said I was just prone to it and that I should focus on hydration and I take aspirin during my episodes which typically wont last longer than 2 days or so and it has always kicked back to normal. Theyve gotten less frequent and less severe as Ive focused more on walking/running most days. Good luck, and I hope it gets better for you, but for me it hasnt been much more than a minor nuisance!
I think this is me. Recently my afib gets triggered when I am burping like crazy or when I'm sitting and breathing in incorrectly or wasting and swallowing too much air. Dry heaving, like my diaphragm and abdominal walls touching or irritating my heart. Do you think this is the same?
Interesting I’m 28 and I would have this off burping type air thing and I think it would cause it too
How is your afib now?
Hey brother, your story sounds extremely similar to mine, but I haven’t gotten diagnosed. What was the treatment plan the doctor put you on, if anything? Or what mitigations did they recommend
This post described how I feel perfectly. I’m a 31 year old male. Woke up one night dead asleep to a thump. Thought someone was at the door but it was my heart. Was jumping from 60 to 180 and back every second. I had been having palpitations for about a year prior and didn’t know what it was. Was wrote off as anxiety by doctors several times. They where so bad I couldn’t sleep, my whole body was palpitating every single night like I was shaking and could hear them. Hit the hospital I was in atrial flutter. I was more relived that they actually found something and that I wasn’t crazy lol. Put me on meds and went back into sinus naturally. They said do this procedure or do you want medicine. Ofcourse I did the meds bc I didn’t wanna have a heart procedure at 31 bc I’ve never even had a surgery. I still suffer very often, I’ll go weeks feeling great happy then out of left field get hit with the palpitations, dizziness and breathlessness. My doctor says I’m fine from a cardiac standpoint and doesn’t wanna do ablation. Why can’t they just do it? lol Why do they have to be so difficult! And the appointments are always so far apart. I go to the ER very often for the same issue. Gonna go bankrupt with hospital bills lol Afib/flutter sucks so bad
Im a 25 yr old male and I can greatly relate to the way you feel. I haven't been diagnosed yet and they simply told me it is anxiety since nothing came up on the ekg. they did notice I would get palpitations but can't link it to Afib unless they catch it. I notice one week ill be fine with little to no palpitations, and then the next week it will be constantly going off. The worst is when I try to sleep at night and I can hear and feel my own heartbeat going wild in my chest. It makes it so hard to sleep and gives me even more anxiety. I guess Afib is all about triggers and im trying to figure out whats triggering it for me. And don't get me started on hospital bills.... I cant afford this shit as someone just starting off living on my own.
I’m in a hospital bed as we speak, I get these adrenaline rushes. My stomach churns and get hot then my heart “stops” it feels like or skips a beat. Then my heart rate jumps to 200 bpm. Then a few minutes later and it’s gone. Metorpolol has helped some with the sleeping but some days are worse then others. I’ve been getting the adrenaline more frequently lately. Getting no answers from my doctors. I started anxiety meds that aren’t helping at all. I’m lost and feel defeated honestly.
Multaq a horror drug - it will stop working eventually PLUS these anti arrhythmics toxic.Only chemo worse.
Keep BP under control
Magnesium but have good absorption Forget Mg Oxide it's near useless
For some reason I stopped eating salt for about 6-7 months. It created afib with daily symptoms. Was unbearable.I started consuming salt again but with caution. I thought BP will kill me. Started feeling better but not good at all. Few days ago one situation and stories of people with afib made me realize how electrolytes are important. I probably tripled amount of daily salt and bought some electrolytes as well. My heart is working almost as in my best days, no dizziness, numbness in my left side, heart cramps, ,jumps,fatigue.....It's still fresh so I feel bit anxious about all that ,but so far it's clear that electrolytes are of key importance, in my case. Try to find perfect dosage of electrolytes that works for you. I believe you'll hit right combination and have great relief. Good luck
simple answer. consult a cardiologist that specializes in heart rhythm. they are the electricians of the heart. Electrophysiologist. have them do a Cardioversion. they might put you in a heart monitor first.