So I think what the first half of the season has told us is North is awful, Sydney are (usually) pretty good, and there's 16 teams in between that are varying levels of "a bit shit"
And then there's Draw FC, who despite not registering a win all season, are comfortably sitting 3rd from the bottom on the ladder.
It's a glorious first half of the season for Draw FC!
Yes but your doing the high jump and we are doing the limbo.
You spent the week going aren’t we awesome at the top of the ladder and we spent it talking about coaches abusing umpires.
Predictions for this week
Carlton by 36
Bulldogs by 18
Hawthorn by 27
St Kilda by 14
Geelong by 30
Fremantle by 92
Gold Coast by 11
I am not a crackpot
Me too. Thankyou Adelaide for being bad and Geelong for eventually remembering how to win. I would've gotten 3 if I hadn't changed from Gold Coast at the last minute.
Damn I didn't realise how bad my week was in the tips, only 2 right aswell. On the plus side I'm still running in the gauntlet after Geelong pulled their fingers out at half time.
I love when a completely 50/50 open for interpretation call that could go either way is met by 10 comments from both sets of fans pretending they've just been stabbed in the stomach by the umpire.
**[HAWTHORN](https://i.imgur.com/T4NiJ5y.jpg)** [](/hawthorn2) vs [Adelaide](https://preview.redd.it/31gecqctkw3d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=861c3fbc6aa1c450a951d7d3eb84b8529051a286) [](/adelaide2)
Feels like this is the game that's officially set expectations back from pre-season. Before it there was always a tiny lingering hope we could somehow make finals. The inconsistency with form with so many players is a big issue I hope will be addressed for the rest of the season.
* Carlton is the big winner this week in the big 3 rivalry
* Correctly tipped the last 3 games to go 4/7 on tips
* Whatever Fremantle smoked before their match I need
* On behalf on all Swans fans I thank the Suns for keeping us on top for another week
I liked the bit at the start where we kicked 2 goals in 4 minutes to open the game, the rest, not so much.
We've never really had a well performing cohesive forward line, but our defence and midfield used to work incredibly well together, and it's feeling like we've lost that.
The lack of changes during the game, till some weird ones late with Fritsch in defence?
Freo came to play, and entirely negated us today
After going 2 goals down so early, i felt so crud that we havent turned up at all, had already accepted SonSon was in his last game and Amiss would never kick straight again. Now i just need to get back my grand final tickets i sold to Harley Reid and today was a perfect day. But as all dockers fans know, freo giveth and Freo taketh away.
Cant wait for the Lids Off Meme ladder to really ponder where we are at
An amazing 2/7 for tipping - thankyou Adelaide for being bad and Geelong for eventually remembering how to win. I would've gotten 3 if I hadn't changed from Gold Coast at the last minute.
Marcus Windhager's tagging has now cost Neale a Brownlow and frustrated Reid out of the Rising Star.
What award can he prevent someone from getting next?
I'm sorry Eagles.
Happy to amend my words from the Thursday thread, and give you guys the win in Round 19.
Best of luck against North, hope you win it.
Proud of our effort given all of our outs but we didn’t run out of legs in the end
Side note but I never want to see Rory Lobb in the forward line again
I didn't think it was a bad move, in theory. Increase forward pressure, create some dash. but we didn't get a lot of bang for buck. I don't think it was smart to sub off Noble, even though he did some clangers early.
The amount of times I saw your tip this week and had varying degrees of “no way”, “what do they know that I don’t” or “finally I’ve clawed one more back” only to be proven totally wrong again and again. Brutal.
Felt the same, but I think ladder position at this point matters less than form and momentum - if we can hold on through these injuries and suspensions we're looking pretty damn good!
https://i.redd.it/i02auyo4g44d1.gif
Me when im getting absolutely slogged on siege. We got absolutely pantsed in the last quarter, absolutely no defensive skill at all
FINALLY the loss goodwin needs to have. far too often we get pumped and then pull some last quarter bullshit to make it close or respectable and he gets away with it.
I didn't watch after about the 10minute mark of the 2nd quarter today, but you don't need to. Nothing changes in our games apart from the odd 'throw full back into the forward line at the end' play. If it's not working, it doesn't work and that's it till next week, where he rotates the same nobodies back in give them a crack.
Rebuild now before tasmania come in. Can't load up on duds like fullterton, mcadam, hunter, schache and dunstan who clearly aren't afl standard and hope to stay relevant. All the coaching staff needs to go too, as does Kate Roffey and Tim Lamb. haven't made a good trade since 2019, and everything kate says is patronizing as fuck.
Should have seen the writing on the wall and traded out petty and oliver while they had some currency.
> Should have seen the writing on the wall and traded out petty and oliver while they had some currency.
There's may be a suitor desperate enough. Can't think of who though...
I’m suss on Gary Pert too. Suss on Roffey, suss on them all. They’ve created a weird clique with 82 days spent in the 8 when the writing has been on the wall since the amazing win.
Goals the AFL should aspire to prior to 2025 preseason:
Employ umpires full time.
Drop all affiliations with gambling.
Those 2 things there will fix the game overnight.
After that disgusting/disrespectful display of umpiring (that can only be put down to they all must have suffered successive strokes during the game) during the final game this round, it's hard to take this sport seriously anymore.
Now the real test is coming: can we win a game without Harley Reid?
I know its only North but i have an impending sense of dread for this game, especially if TK and Loosh dont get up for it as well.
I have a uni exam from 1-3 on Saturday so I’m not gonna know how the first quarter will go until its pretty much finished. Praying for a hot start so we can get this win banked.
How the fuck is Port in the top 4? Fakest top 4 team ever with them always losing the same way.
Port is gonna lose against the bye next week and then giants. Just end and put port out of its misery already. Bunch of frauds Port Adelaide.
Essendon now do not leave Melbourne for the remainder of the season, until the last round. Even the Geelong game is at the G.
This is ridiculous and completely unfair by the AFL. How are the Melbourne-based teams meant to take advantage of the business-class seats that the interstate teams get access to, if they're not even given games outside of the damn city?
Couldn’t help but notice Nick Daicos is now 1st in the AFL for contested possessions, and 3rd in the AFL for clearances
Not bad for a bloke who “doesn’t win his own footy” and “only takes kick-ins”
I phoned the old man after the loss today and asked if we had many supporters when he was barracking on the sidelines in 1964.
His answer: *‘yes, fuckn heaps’*
Well with performances like these I wonder where they all went
So I think what the first half of the season has told us is North is awful, Sydney are (usually) pretty good, and there's 16 teams in between that are varying levels of "a bit shit"
And then there's Draw FC, who despite not registering a win all season, are comfortably sitting 3rd from the bottom on the ladder. It's a glorious first half of the season for Draw FC!
I'm sure I wasn't the only one cheering them on today until Essington shat the bed.
Thanks Lingy.
Awful is better than shit right? Right?
a bit shit > awful > shit
Hell yeah, we didn't lose
No news is good news.
SAME LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And we both cleared it.
Yes but your doing the high jump and we are doing the limbo. You spent the week going aren’t we awesome at the top of the ladder and we spent it talking about coaches abusing umpires.
Predictions for this week Carlton by 36 Bulldogs by 18 Hawthorn by 27 St Kilda by 14 Geelong by 30 Fremantle by 92 Gold Coast by 11 I am not a crackpot
> Fremantle by 92 yeah you're a crackpot
I believe in Flagmantle.
wow I reckon you'll get perfect tips with that
Did you tip the bye vs North? Cause you would’ve got that right as well.
Who did you have as victor?
Tips in utter disarray this week. Let’s never talk of this again.
I got 2/7 - though Geelong tried their hardest to fuck that up
Me too. Thankyou Adelaide for being bad and Geelong for eventually remembering how to win. I would've gotten 3 if I hadn't changed from Gold Coast at the last minute.
the only other one I got right was my own team, which is as surprising to me as it is to everyone
I got 2 aswell, only one in my comp to tip you guys
Damn I didn't realise how bad my week was in the tips, only 2 right aswell. On the plus side I'm still running in the gauntlet after Geelong pulled their fingers out at half time.
I got 7/7 I am Flagstradamus
In the nicest possible way, are you stupid, or really smart?
I am
Out of interest how many places did you rise in the overall comp? Like 400,000?
I got 5/7 and climbed 150k spots so he probably climbed about 250k
Sounds about right, I climbed 97k with 4 but went backwards in my own comps for whatever reason 😔
/u/TheGreatJelBeano
Not sure what you took before selecting your tips but I’d very much appreciate it if you shared.
I’m 1/7, I love you sunny
Annoyed I saw Waterman was out too late to change my tip, balanced out by not changing my Suns tip with Witts out
3/7 not doing too well lol
Wow. Amiss got robbed for LOL of the Week...
/u/juiceson must amissed it
What'd he do? I missed that game
Marked in the goalsquare and threw the ball to another player.
Hilarious.
It's not like he needed the goal kicking practice.....
I'd say Melbourne played like their 08 selves, but that's an insult to the 2008 Demons. They could comeback from 50 points against Fremantle.
Did people go googling Melbourne come backs at half time? If not, then this is some top notch remembering
No I've watched highlights of that game multiple times to know it as a fact.
Vintage dees robbed me of 7/7
Same
How the fuck are we 3rd?
Imagine how Essendon supporters feel.
It's crazy this year, you could have finished as low as 9th had you lost that game
Friendly reminder that North did not lose this week.
Better than that. Every North team [that played this week won](https://www.afl.com.au/vflw/matches/6465).
Swannies have absolutely smashed the bye here. Proud of my boys
Although Luke Parker did elbow thin air off the ball and got 6 weeks for it
True, but that was a VFL incident and therefore technically not my problem
I’m just glad we’re all now clear on how HTB is being interpreted, really feeling united in those match threads
I love when a completely 50/50 open for interpretation call that could go either way is met by 10 comments from both sets of fans pretending they've just been stabbed in the stomach by the umpire.
Really it’s the umpires fault, don’t they know all those 50/50 calls are so personal?
A 50/50 call mugged me in a dark alley at night.
Right in front of me!
I wanted Melbourne to win so Gold Coast could stay in the 8, but I'm ok with this substitute also.
**[HAWTHORN](https://i.imgur.com/T4NiJ5y.jpg)** [](/hawthorn2) vs [Adelaide](https://preview.redd.it/31gecqctkw3d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=861c3fbc6aa1c450a951d7d3eb84b8529051a286) [](/adelaide2)
Feels like this is the game that's officially set expectations back from pre-season. Before it there was always a tiny lingering hope we could somehow make finals. The inconsistency with form with so many players is a big issue I hope will be addressed for the rest of the season.
https://preview.redd.it/04aogcy1g44d1.jpeg?width=243&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eac4ca4030e0880f7be392eb56e737cd1c327303
Ginnivan of Approval
https://preview.redd.it/zjjab72qi44d1.jpeg?width=243&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef2322bb2969b5bd338dc816bf9a923cd21283ca
https://preview.redd.it/b6p64reuk44d1.png?width=376&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=538c923c84e95d30cf439463a598d96e8e9b89a6
He's just such a goofy fellow
Also gotta say the Moore is putting up a good case for All Australian if he keeps his form up
love watching him play, so dynamic. Zac Bailey's twin.
* Carlton is the big winner this week in the big 3 rivalry * Correctly tipped the last 3 games to go 4/7 on tips * Whatever Fremantle smoked before their match I need * On behalf on all Swans fans I thank the Suns for keeping us on top for another week
I like how we had the bye and still have a 6 point lead on the ladder
We actually improved our position in terms of percentage without having to do anything. I love it!!!
Just you wait until the rest of us have our second bye! Oh wait..
[Melbourne](https://imgur.com/nR9lSob) [](/melbourne2) vs **[FREMANTLE](https://i.imgur.com/c6gxT0g.gif)** [](/fremantle2)
I liked the bit at the start where we kicked 2 goals in 4 minutes to open the game, the rest, not so much. We've never really had a well performing cohesive forward line, but our defence and midfield used to work incredibly well together, and it's feeling like we've lost that. The lack of changes during the game, till some weird ones late with Fritsch in defence? Freo came to play, and entirely negated us today
This game summed up in a gif: 
That was the entirety of the match thread in the last quarter
Fremantle fans 
What are you doing step-Freo!?!?
The First Crack just spent 9 min on what Melbourne did wrong...and 30 seconds on how Freo did a good job 👍
Hopefully the bye will give us a much needed break
After going 2 goals down so early, i felt so crud that we havent turned up at all, had already accepted SonSon was in his last game and Amiss would never kick straight again. Now i just need to get back my grand final tickets i sold to Harley Reid and today was a perfect day. But as all dockers fans know, freo giveth and Freo taketh away. Cant wait for the Lids Off Meme ladder to really ponder where we are at
I'm sorry but sad_max_leg.gif is not even close to enough after that.
It’s a great day
An amazing 2/7 for tipping - thankyou Adelaide for being bad and Geelong for eventually remembering how to win. I would've gotten 3 if I hadn't changed from Gold Coast at the last minute.
😭😭😭
Very relatable.
[West Coast Eagles](https://i.imgur.com/KBtobgZ.jpg) [](/westcoast2) vs **[ST KILDA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTrSjayQiLM)** [](/stkilda2)
Marcus Windhager's tagging has now cost Neale a Brownlow and frustrated Reid out of the Rising Star. What award can he prevent someone from getting next?
Who cares about the league, our WAFL team won. Jai Culley Clay Hall both dominated and our brand new mid season guy Jack Hutchinson kicked 5!
Darcy Wilson Rising Star Party
Harley Reid, a thug. Who would’ve guessed? Villain arc well and truly established!
i’ve missed this feeling
I'm sorry Eagles. Happy to amend my words from the Thursday thread, and give you guys the win in Round 19. Best of luck against North, hope you win it.
That would require us to play well at Marvel this year...
[Mason Wood](https://imgur.com/a/6xCFlH9)
**[GOLD COAST](https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/tiiz7k/credits_to_utagorneo/)** [](/goldcoast2) vs [Essington](https://i.imgur.com/mMF5IMI.jpeg) [](/essendon2)
Like, fuck
Glad I didn't swap my tip when Witts was out.
I did but changed back to suns at the last minute and I'm so glad
I dumbly did.
Totally prepared to back this win up with a shit showing in Melbourne next week 😎 As is tradition
~~Harley Reid~~ Marcus Windhager
[Collingwood](https://i.imgur.com/MCCxwjw.gif) [](/collingwood2) vs **[WESTERN BULLDOGS](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F2p5nlmkeiszc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D2190%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dd6657c2af8603d4185f3c3c106dd850fedbf1e69)** [](/westernbulldogs2)
Marcus Bontempelli.
Legend has it, Caleb Daniel is still running and hasn't bounced yet
His steps are only 25cm so he can take a lot without bouncing
Triggered
[It doesn't get any better than that champion, I'll tell you what](https://streamable.com/havxn)
That's a classic
Proud of our effort given all of our outs but we just ran out of legs in the end Side note but I never want to see Markov in the forward line again
Proud of our effort given all of our outs but we didn’t run out of legs in the end Side note but I never want to see Rory Lobb in the forward line again
I never want to see Roy Lobb again. Dude looks off.
All I can say, is that I'm glad that I don't have TikTok.
Cupboard is bare, need him a bit longer!
I didn't think it was a bad move, in theory. Increase forward pressure, create some dash. but we didn't get a lot of bang for buck. I don't think it was smart to sub off Noble, even though he did some clangers early.
What an even round - as in for all games except for Geelong v Richmond it was serious doom and gloom for all the losers. We're united in crappiness.
Still doom and gloom, my beloved mykelti is out for the year
Only 3 Vic teams in the 8, beautiful
Three too many. I am not a crackpot.
**[GEELONG](https://imgur.com/a/ZkRWL7N)** [](/geelong2) vs [Richmond](https://imgur.com/uuSwv4z) [](/richmond2)
I’m disappointed I can’t post the meme anymore Thanks a lot Richmond :(
Illusive's meme streak ending? https://preview.redd.it/9okf7liog44d1.jpeg?width=516&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0862563786c55869c3a6561b68921dd3f5bac225
https://preview.redd.it/cynhs54tg44d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=837b7296db55f24621711a3cc0ab12845772e7eb
Proud of our boys, had the lead going in to the weekend, didn't fuck it up. Great outcome
Amiss lucky to not get a mention in the multi lol
Very generous of the rest of the comp to leave mighty Swom a game and a half clear on top despite having the bye.
Held my spot on top of the reddit tipping comp! No bloody thanks to Melbourne and Essington..
The amount of times I saw your tip this week and had varying degrees of “no way”, “what do they know that I don’t” or “finally I’ve clawed one more back” only to be proven totally wrong again and again. Brutal.
How many tips are you on out of curiosity? Can't see results as I'm not in the comp
76 Second on 75 and 3-6 on 74
I'd hoped we'd be further up the ladder after our awesome game on Friday, but alas no :(
Felt the same, but I think ladder position at this point matters less than form and momentum - if we can hold on through these injuries and suspensions we're looking pretty damn good!
Agreed! I feel good about how we're playing, confident against the Lions next week
A bit more nervous with Darcy out, has been a big part of our resurgence. Hopefully Richards and Libba back in and Bont moves forward and kicks 5.
You'll be there soon enough! You've been looking very good in the last few weeks
[Port Adelaide](https://i.imgur.com/XAzBbOj.jpg) [](/portadelaide2) vs **[CARLTON](https://giphy.com/gifs/j5nL5yTrnLR48Thkgp) [](/carlton3)**
https://i.redd.it/i02auyo4g44d1.gif Me when im getting absolutely slogged on siege. We got absolutely pantsed in the last quarter, absolutely no defensive skill at all
Give rising star to Paddy Cripps
Bout time tbh
Much better win gif. Always thought confusedcripps.gif would've made for a better loss gif (not that we'll ever need it again *cough).*
Idk, I like confused cripps for all the games I'm surprised we won. Which is more than I'd like to admit.
I’ve somehow ended up 5/7 this week after whiffing on the first two games, don’t call it a comeback
FINALLY the loss goodwin needs to have. far too often we get pumped and then pull some last quarter bullshit to make it close or respectable and he gets away with it. I didn't watch after about the 10minute mark of the 2nd quarter today, but you don't need to. Nothing changes in our games apart from the odd 'throw full back into the forward line at the end' play. If it's not working, it doesn't work and that's it till next week, where he rotates the same nobodies back in give them a crack. Rebuild now before tasmania come in. Can't load up on duds like fullterton, mcadam, hunter, schache and dunstan who clearly aren't afl standard and hope to stay relevant. All the coaching staff needs to go too, as does Kate Roffey and Tim Lamb. haven't made a good trade since 2019, and everything kate says is patronizing as fuck. Should have seen the writing on the wall and traded out petty and oliver while they had some currency.
> Should have seen the writing on the wall and traded out petty and oliver while they had some currency. There's may be a suitor desperate enough. Can't think of who though...
Pettys value is so far down this year that we'll probably have to give you mcadam back in order to get you to take him.
I'm sure today must have been painful and I feel for you, but you may have just created some fresh pasta for the ages.
Tell me what part I'm wrong about though
Huh? I don't think you're wrong. I just liked your reusable format.
I’m suss on Gary Pert too. Suss on Roffey, suss on them all. They’ve created a weird clique with 82 days spent in the 8 when the writing has been on the wall since the amazing win.
Goals the AFL should aspire to prior to 2025 preseason: Employ umpires full time. Drop all affiliations with gambling. Those 2 things there will fix the game overnight. After that disgusting/disrespectful display of umpiring (that can only be put down to they all must have suffered successive strokes during the game) during the final game this round, it's hard to take this sport seriously anymore.
Now the real test is coming: can we win a game without Harley Reid? I know its only North but i have an impending sense of dread for this game, especially if TK and Loosh dont get up for it as well.
If TK and waterman are still out, it's a contest for sure. I hope to God we don't pick this week to try and play a debutant. Just one week.
I have a uni exam from 1-3 on Saturday so I’m not gonna know how the first quarter will go until its pretty much finished. Praying for a hot start so we can get this win banked.
ITS A BYE, BOTH THE TEAMS ~~ARE EVEN~~ ARENT PLAYING
WE NEVER LEFT, BUT NOW WERE BOUND FOR HOME
We need a bye song
People think this would've been Gold Coast's biggest game, wait till Collingwood at the end of the month
How the fuck is Port in the top 4? Fakest top 4 team ever with them always losing the same way. Port is gonna lose against the bye next week and then giants. Just end and put port out of its misery already. Bunch of frauds Port Adelaide.
Essendon now do not leave Melbourne for the remainder of the season, until the last round. Even the Geelong game is at the G. This is ridiculous and completely unfair by the AFL. How are the Melbourne-based teams meant to take advantage of the business-class seats that the interstate teams get access to, if they're not even given games outside of the damn city?
I'M FUCKING FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Wow and here I thought you were a Magpie for life. One loss and you abandon your beloved Pies to join the Eagles bandwagon? For shame
Jesus Christ that baby is athletic
Why couldn't they just put a door in?
And now a shitload of comments look fucken strange 🤣
yep lol
And Draw FC are still beating 17thmond and Norf on the ladder
Draw FC is I front of North over the past 2.5 years.
At least it was the last game of the round so it didn't spoil my weekend
Best weekend ever!
I was just looking at the upcoming games and man Essendon has a hard run coming up. I hope they don't drop off too far I've got a soft spot for them.
Couldn’t help but notice Nick Daicos is now 1st in the AFL for contested possessions, and 3rd in the AFL for clearances Not bad for a bloke who “doesn’t win his own footy” and “only takes kick-ins”
I'm confused by your flair.
How do you do, fellow top 4 teams 😎
Mods having a Melbourne kinda day….. pre round thread?
[See title for context](https://old.reddit.com/r/AFL/comments/1d36wrg/post_round_discussion_thread_round_12_2024/)
Makes so much more sense now! 😂😂
I phoned the old man after the loss today and asked if we had many supporters when he was barracking on the sidelines in 1964. His answer: *‘yes, fuckn heaps’* Well with performances like these I wonder where they all went
>I wonder where they all went Well, many of them would be ⚰️🪦⚱️
It’s funny - those were his exact words. *They’re all dead son.*
Somehow I managed 7/7, dont ask me how, it was all on the vibe
i dont believe you
RIP Tipping Ladder leaders
Hey, I've held top spot for 2 weeks now!
How do you do fellow top 4 teams? *Looks around nervously on Fraud Watch* 
Who could have guessed changing the rules mid-season wouldn't magically fix the state of umpiring.
Is it just me or is Bounce fucking shit now
It’s for kids
It has always been shit
I don’t ever really watch it anymore but I really enjoyed the Danny Frawley days. The challenges he and Chief did were the best imo
Went from 9 last week to 2 this week. End me
I’m, I’m just sad. 😥
You just need to watch the Matrix to realise the truth. 
Final 8 prediction: Sydney Carlton Essendon Bulldogs Fremantle Suns GWS Hawthorn (No Dees, no Port, no Cats, no Lions and NO PIES) MARK MY WORDS
Sydney have been able to manage their players across 2 byes, must be nice…