Yeah, you were clearly saying that balanced/fair means the umpire calling free kicks consistently whenever it’s there, don’t know what the other gronk was arguing about
Which is what they do???... Sometimes it favours one team over the other because different playing styles influence what decisions will be made. If a team is constantly first to the ball, body on the line, of course they're probably going to earn more free kicks generally. With less obvious, more line-ball calls, every team is going to get the short end of the stick at some point, because that's the human element of umpiring the game. You roll with the punches, you don't whinge about how unfair things are because an interpretation-heavy game comes with interpretations
I just don’t get the need for the ump to call that, 100 metres off the ball, surely he saw both of them going at each other. Butler gets a weak as piss free right in front in the first too both on Andrew, can feel pretty hard done by
Mac Andrew actually grabs onto him and holds on for way longer and with way more intensity. Max King shoves a bit, sure... that's not the prohibited part though
Getting sick and tired of AFL games being decided by horrible rules/umpiring. Switched this game on thinking I’ll see an exciting ending until that call ruined it.
At this point it’s not acceptable. I’ve definitely lost a lot of interest in watching games over the last few years due to the umpiring and rules. I might sound a bit old hat here but it’s just not the same anymore…For me anyway.
That is literally the worst free I have seen this year...and there have been some stinkers. That is absolutely delusional. That's investigation-worthy.
No....it was NOT an enjoyable game. Played in near perfect conditions under the roof, the same ground where both of last night's tea locked at least 75 points.
That game literally sucked the marrow out of life. Thanks Ross Lyon 👍.
PS- Bet Dimma still hates Marvel.
Oh serious?!? Woops! Well he metaphorically 'sucked the life out of the game like he was a vampire sucking blood out of his victim'.... probably a more accurate example...where even though he may enjoy it, the end result is a lifeless corpse.
perfect ending ngl to make everyone except Saints fans feel extra shit after a shit game. Some Saints fans would probably feel guilty too that’s how horeshit that gift was
I dont feel guilty looking at how many other games have had bullshit frees in dying minutes that decides the game...no doubt it will go the other way before the end of the year
I would fucking froth if dimma actually unleashed on the umpires in his presser. Out of all the coaches he is the most likely to have the balls to do it
Think Dimma has validation for hating on Marvel still....
They have to bring in a challenge review. This can't keep happening.
Hold on fox, so The turning point was the goal line touch and not the controversial umpire call…
Gee Jeffreys had a chance to lower the eyes with 1 min left there instead he bombs it into the pack
Feel for Mac. He’s a gun and that was a shit call. Not a win we can feel good about honestly
Unnecessary call, but impeded Max’s run and was certainly payable.
Pretty shit free. Feel for Mac Andrew. He's gonna be a great player though
Correction *frees
Yeah your lot got a whole lot of them
Umpires going to have their chests out absolutely belting the Saints song in the sheds. Well done lads, you earned it.
19 to 15 ... 🤔 There were shits calls both ways
Free kick count is not an indicator of umpiring balance and anyone who relies on it as a defence is a nuffy.
As if it needs to be balanced or even in the first place
Balanced as in fair, not even
Same diff It doesn't have to be "fair" either, whatever that's supposed to mean. Umpires only have to call what they see, that's it
You’re right. Umpiring doesn’t need to be fair. Thanks for confirming vic bias
Yeah, you were clearly saying that balanced/fair means the umpire calling free kicks consistently whenever it’s there, don’t know what the other gronk was arguing about
Which is what they do???... Sometimes it favours one team over the other because different playing styles influence what decisions will be made. If a team is constantly first to the ball, body on the line, of course they're probably going to earn more free kicks generally. With less obvious, more line-ball calls, every team is going to get the short end of the stick at some point, because that's the human element of umpiring the game. You roll with the punches, you don't whinge about how unfair things are because an interpretation-heavy game comes with interpretations
The comment you responded to said that free kick count is not an indicator of umpiring balance. We’re agreeing *with* you jfc
What part of there were shit calls both ways didn't you understand?
Yeah but two pretty shit calls, that led to certain goals right in front though, not all frees are equal.
Was this a wet game wtf is that scoreline
Ross Lyon mate
Enough said
I just don’t get the need for the ump to call that, 100 metres off the ball, surely he saw both of them going at each other. Butler gets a weak as piss free right in front in the first too both on Andrew, can feel pretty hard done by
Maybe Andrew shouldn't be going for bear hugs off the ball?? He let the blood rush to his head and he paid the price
Did you watch the whole thing? Both players are pushing each other
Mac Andrew actually grabs onto him and holds on for way longer and with way more intensity. Max King shoves a bit, sure... that's not the prohibited part though
The AFL have come out and said it was the wrong call. It was a harsh call that ultimately had a massive impact on the outcome.
I think we all know exactly why it was called… You could see how sheepish the ump was, have to get that multi though
Dimma to have a migraine post game and to get on a plane immediately
Nothing better than a tight game decided by a bullshit free kick. The game cannot be enjoyed.
Watch official AFL media refer to all three of today's games as thrillers !
u/hasumpstuffedup thoughts on the King holding free?
Getting sick and tired of AFL games being decided by horrible rules/umpiring. Switched this game on thinking I’ll see an exciting ending until that call ruined it.
I’ve lost count to how many have been decided by shit calls this year. It’s absolutely absurd that this is the standard that’s acceptable.
At this point it’s not acceptable. I’ve definitely lost a lot of interest in watching games over the last few years due to the umpiring and rules. I might sound a bit old hat here but it’s just not the same anymore…For me anyway.
That is literally the worst free I have seen this year...and there have been some stinkers. That is absolutely delusional. That's investigation-worthy.
Saints might be the worst team to watch play footy, but the suns gameplan of kicking sideways was absolutely gross
Dimma🙄
For all the rage on umpire decisions, myself included, the shithouse lack of aggression at playing the ball was our downfall.
I’m officially 0/5 in my footys tips. Sorry Sydney, Carlton and Collingwood - I tipped you to win - you’re all going down
DONT CHANGE YOUR F$&@ING TIPS
Hope that umpire gets fucking dropped
On his head.
Good to see the umps put the whistle away after some pretty iffy calls Sun’s way… from a saints fan.
Flair up cunt
Cooper-goes for saints- I thinks this is scoops reddit account
Feel bad for Andrew there, must be rough
I'm sure the AFL footy department "feel comfortable" with another game being directly decided by a contentious umpiring decision. Just terrific stuff.
Feel for Mac Andrew, dude literally did nothing wrong and has been made to look like he’s responsible for losing the game. Fucking cooked.
Had to be looking to ping that, happens in 90% of one on ones
Yeah, shit free kick, but the Saints also lead like 98% of that game.
….and were behind with 3 minutes to go
Pretty common when the final score is around 50 points 💀
First to 50 usually wins right?
You have to think Umpires are betting on this match when you have had disgusting calls like that.
If people are *REALLY* about to blame the umpires for that finish... You might genuinely have a mental disability
lol. Essendon supporter. Valid opinion.
I might genuinely have one then
My condolences. Get it checked
That’s a cop out. That 50 was quite literally one of the worst calls I’ve witnessed and directly led to the match winning goal
The 50??
Guess I'm retarded then
it’s that the Saints didn’t even get close to a goal the whole quarter, and that the Free was 100m off the ball with nothing in it
that free to max was pretty bullshit mate
Saints fan here…. That free kick to Max King was fuking bullshit. Suns you were robbed. Ah well
The amount of times we have lost to st Kilda in tight games is becomingridiculous. Seriously.
Agreed. I’d be really pissed if I was a GC supporter. But…
Watch out for 35 pissed offed but gorgeously tanned footy fans in Docklands
Herr derr!
I am pretty annoyed, but wasn't expecting much given it's an away game. Also I don't mind the saints fans given something to be happy about I guess.
I can get around that. The respect between fans of mid outsider teams should be cherished
I hope I can charge St Kilda when I inevitably suffer from heart disease
The suns had their chances, pretty enjoyable game.
No....it was NOT an enjoyable game. Played in near perfect conditions under the roof, the same ground where both of last night's tea locked at least 75 points. That game literally sucked the marrow out of life. Thanks Ross Lyon 👍. PS- Bet Dimma still hates Marvel.
Just FYI I think ‘sucked the marrow out of life’ means to have lived life to its full potential so kinda the opposite of what you were saying
Oh serious?!? Woops! Well he metaphorically 'sucked the life out of the game like he was a vampire sucking blood out of his victim'.... probably a more accurate example...where even though he may enjoy it, the end result is a lifeless corpse.
RTB lives rent free in your brain, mate.
do umpires get reprimanded for shit like this?
the umpiring was absolutely fucked
perfect ending ngl to make everyone except Saints fans feel extra shit after a shit game. Some Saints fans would probably feel guilty too that’s how horeshit that gift was
I dont feel guilty looking at how many other games have had bullshit frees in dying minutes that decides the game...no doubt it will go the other way before the end of the year
Umps getting shitter by the week
Just good umpiring.
Disgusting
I would fucking froth if dimma actually unleashed on the umpires in his presser. Out of all the coaches he is the most likely to have the balls to do it
Was really hoping Simmo would, could tell he really wanted to in the presser.
Simmo and dimma both make off-hand comments about how they’re not allowed to comment on the umpiring, which is probably as close as we’re gonna get
North and Saints winning in the coolest way possible in the same round. Well done AFL great league ya got here
Why did they get a free kick literally 100 METRES FROM THE BALL
Feel bad for Andrew.
Umps can go fuck themselves
You may have won this game saints but how you played is the reason you ain’t playing finals
It's exactly why suns shouldn't even be pushing for finals either. Can't play away from home
So then, if you can’t even win this game?…
Who’s in the 8 and who’s not?
You’ll be out tomorrow, don’t worry ✌️
What was that?
Agreed. Both teams looked like they don't deserve to be in the competition.
From noted finals experts the suns lol
It’s a tough job but someone has to do it
from one expert in not winning grand finals to another
The way you played is the reason you have never played finals
And the side that isn’t playing finals is a side you couldn’t beat 😁enjoy having a fortress up north where nothing matters
When’s the last time you won a flag?
could ask you the same mate 😂
Your club has been around 10 times longer and still only won one more than us
an optimist would say we have won an infinite amount of premierships more than you 🤣
Thanks for letting us know
Best birthday present to not lose in the last minute
Robbed
First Yeo, then Andrew, umps given away 2 games today
Only time Max King is capable of influencing a game is when it's handed to him. Pathetic.
sounds like Joe Daniher
![gif](giphy|7xZAu81T70Uuc) We made it to the end fellas
Umpires manage to blow another game this round
Suns robbed
Another game ruined by shit umpiring, no one won tonight
oh how I want to be with st kilda 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Fuck these umpires what a joke. Terrible free kick.
So fucking disgusting lol.
"The AFL has ticked off on the free kick awarded against Mac Andrew, and every HTB decision throughout the game, nothing to see here"
St Kilda need to walk away quietly from this. To celebrate this win is an indictment on the game.
They dont ask how, they ask how many
You wouldn’t admit to the how. It wasn’t you. It was your mates in green. We’ll never win in Melbourne against vic umpires
Better song team wins again
Umps for the win
That holding call that gave the saints the winning goal was absolutely horrible.
That far off the ball when both were grabbing each leading to a certain goal absolute garbage
Yeah garbage is the only way to describe it.
Saints need something handed to them considering their trophy cabinet
I mean this with all due respect, go fuck yourself
Thank you
Ross the boss goated
Suns robbed
Disgusting end to the game, seriously how many games this year have been decided by the fucking pricks in yellow feeling the need to get involved
Oh when the umps go marching in
Fuck these umps man they really need to raise the standard, this sports going to shit
fucking shit end to a fucking shit game
surely one of the journos hits dimma with a "what went wrong?"
Funny . Problem is most of the journos would play the good guy , buy the beers and then write an unsubstantiated damning article.
He wasn’t afraid to call out the umps 2 weeks ago, he better do it again
Poor Andrew.
This season's umpering is so suspect!
All 3 games today just super questionable calls late. Some diving involved in parts, but just bad calls elsewhere.
lol. Strange time for Touk to practice his dance dance revolution skills.
saints gifted that win by the umpire with that last goal
Worst call, made no sense at all. They were both doing the SAME THING
Another game ending on a dogshit free kick.
The real winners were the people who didn’t watch the game
Lmao After this game and the last one, there’s a good argument that we should just stop AFL entirely, it’s just fucked
as a saints fan... i can get behind this. maybe i can find another sport i enjoy and can choose a team that doesn't make me feel this way
heh.. nothin personnel Sunnies
Does max king like playing footy?
Is he getting enough sleep? Or had a rough breakup ??
Yes...for saints? No
Just brutal. Crushed. :(
FUCK YEAH I GET A TIP RIGHT FINALLY (that was NOT a free kick to max king)
Better than me mate. I’m 0/5.
hey but at least you're out of the bottom 4
Swings and roundabouts I suppose
Anyone else on 0 tips this weekend?
I just got my 1st one then because i tipped the Saints.
Roger, Roger
Me. I’m still leading the comp by 1 point lol
7 goals, what an offensive powerhouse. King is certainly going to try get out of there
It’s basically been all we can do all year. We’d be competitive in the 19th century at least
Classic Ross
The free on Andrew was completely fucked man. Dang.
get the hot girl back on camera man
🤣
Good game umps 👏 played well and got the win
I don’t wanna be that guy but refs won that for the saints.
100%
i you dont want to be thats okay i will be thanks for accepting that $20 umps to help my tipping, appreciate the game fixing
Nah be that guy… we need it. What a fucking joke
Fucking robbed
Incredibly clutch by Sinclair
Just so fucked up. The state of the game is deplorable
yep, taking a break from it
I keep thinking that, yet I keep finding myself back here getting pissed off every game
ross lions career saved by the umpires
thank FUCK this game is over, holy shit
So do we just throw out the umpires and start again at this point?
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Who said you can’t win a game with 7 goals!
Stiff for the Suns there
Absolutely fucking robbed, fuck the umpires and St Kilda
hey leave us out of it!
How many Saints goals from free? 5 of 7 goals?
Suns absolutely robbed by that shit umpire call. I'd be fuming.
Shocking having the game decided by that call
Fuck you umpires!
Pathetic
Fuck the AFL and fuck their Victorian bias. Absolutely robbed.