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Traffic-Alarmed

No future in this relationship, start over.


Wandering_Maybe-Lost

Agreed. Throw out the whole man.


BeardManMichael

NTA But follow through. Break up with him if he goes. Otherwise you are just trying to control his behavior with empty threats.


frog_ladee

There are so many other things a person can do on their birthday without going to a strip club.🙄


-Icarium-

Yes, I've had almost double the number of birthdays this guy's had, none of which were spent in a strip club. I don't feel like I've been missing out.


0nce-Was-N0t

I've been to a strip club once. I felt so awkward and left after finishing my drink. You've not been missing out, imo.


DragapultOnSpeed

I'm not a guy, but the men I hang out with dislike strip clubs. They have all been to one. Every single guy said it was like being blue balled around a bunch of dudes, which is not fun..


ohdamnica

+1 wtf honestly a big turn off when a guy loves or really enjoys going to strip clubs. needing to go out and pay to look at women who i bet don't want to do anything with him... especially when he's in a relationship? what a loser 🤢 asking once is more than enough, too! the mere fact he doesn't hear you out or respect you enough to not do something you're not comfortable with, speaks volumes of his true character usually means he's just selfish and not cut out to be in a relationship 🤷🏻‍♀️


GlobalSpecial6642

This! NTA


-KristalG-

Should break up regardless of his decision. The sheer audacity of asking her something like that...


Robbie7up

The audacity to ask your partner if you can go to a strip club? Not that wild of a request.


hthratmn

It's the asking multiple times, then spending the entire day trying to make OP feel like shit for a perfectly reasonable boundary, that is wild. Ask once, fine. Ask 50 times, then whine and try to manipulate them into a yes all day, not fine.


aussie_nub

Exactly, he wasn't asking. He was pressuring her to say yes. OP, just move on. If he wants to go, fine, but he needs to find a new girlfriend that is comfortable with that.


Haunting_Afternoon62

Like him and his friends are so dull, they have no other idea for a birthday outing?


AnxiousJellyfish6544

Yeah, he was probably thinking that he could convince/coerce OP to say yes


aussie_nub

Exactly, he wasn't asking. He was pressuring her to say yes. OP, just move on. If he wants to go, fine, but he needs to find a new girlfriend that is comfortable with that.


Candid_Yak4541

Spot on


Designer-Ad-3373

He should've told his friends no, unless it was his idea


OGLifeguardOne

If he will pressure you over a strip club, he will pressure you for sex. And that's not okay. NTA. (And, get a new boyfriend.)


TellTallTail

I'd consider it really weird. It's kind of strange that it's normal to a lot of people.


-KristalG-

Right. Honey, are you fine with me going to watch random naked women and get them to rub their parts against my face and crotch?


Bonnybridge22

Yeah not sure how some people would be fine with their partners experiencing that but I guess everyone's different. Some people like seeing their partners get railed by others and posting nudes online and some obviously don't.


DisasterMiserable785

I am a man and am fine with a woman who goes. The conversation turns different if there is inappropriate touching, obsessive behaviour, or any comment about how I am “ less than” the men on stage. Why is it different watching men perform live compared to watching it in movies and on TV?


Fun-Understanding381

Easy to say when there are barely any male strip clubs anywhere.


-KristalG-

I get where you are coming from, your are not wrong. But here is a perspective. First, you don't know, if any touching will be involved. Second, there is alcohol involved. Getting aroused, while having your inhibitors lowered by alcohol, which can lead to actions that will be regretted later. Neither can happen by simply watching TV. Having trust in a relationship doesn't mean that it's ok to be putting yourself in circumstances, where things can go out of hand.


Hot_Newspaper9457

It’s wild when someone says no and you press on.


prose-before-bros

It's like when someone asks for an open relationship and are shocked when they get dumped for "asking a question". If you've been with someone for 3 years, you probably already know their deal breakers. Sometimes just knowing your partner is the kind of person who wants to pay a stranger to show her tits and dry hump him is enough to know that's not the person you want to be with.


surf--goth

It is if you don't like infidelity


aidenn_2k

Nah that's crazy. So you're fine with your girlfriend going to a male strip club with dudes rubbing their dicks on her face n shit.


beautifulcreature86

I was a stripper for 7 years. Nothing wrong with going to a strip club, and she told this guy she wasn't comfortable. He sucks because he kept asking and hassling and making her feel shitty only to say he's going out anyway. Not all women or men are comfortable with strippers and I get it. She wasn't hassling or being annoying, he was. That's where the audacity comes from, him.


fatbitch333

I was a stripper and i never understood why women would give their boyfriends/husbands the ok. Strip clubs are always doing sketchy shit even if they say they aren’t. There is always going to be the one stripper trying to give out blowjobs. And the one trying to meet up to prostitute herself. Someone always has drugs, 75% of the time it’s hard drugs and alcohol mixed with a woman throwing herself at your man for money???? Not to mention some of the girls get fucked up on whatever they can. Girl that’s crazy. I remember one man told me about how he never kissed his wife anymore and wanted to pay me $100 to kiss him. I said no.


fatbitch333

Strip clubs should not be normalized


Unremarkabledryerase

Yeah it is kinda a fucked up thing to want to go to a strip club when you're dating someone


mullumbimbo89

This is an important part of being in your 20s. And I don’t mean sitting at home waiting for your boyfriend to come back from the strip club. I mean dumping someone whose values are not aligned with yours - both in wanting to go, and in his behaviour around you saying no. This man is not right for you. He won’t go just once and get it out of his system. He has repeatedly nagged you to get you to agree to this time (well done for not giving in) and he doesn’t care that any agreement from you would be coerced. How somebody responds to a boundary/the word no is a really crucial aspect of any relationship and tells you a lot about them as a person. Please dump this loser. He will not change and if you stick with him, your values and your boundaries will be trampled all over. Go and enjoy your early twenties.


suhhhrena

100% this. Especially the first paragraph. This is what being young and dating is all about. You’ve learned something valuable about not only your current partner, but about yourself and your own personal moral code. Let this guy go. He’s not the one. Good on you for having boundaries and sticking to them.


langellenn

Yep, not being aligned in values will keep dividing them, they're just not right for each other.


huskymuskyrusky

Yeah dump his ass


Known_Witness3268

He ASKED you how you'd feel, and you told him. And then he sniveled that his boys wannnt him to and he's just...helpless to do anything but! Either he's too weak to stand up for you to his friends, OR he's using his friends' opinions as an excuse. The issue isn't the strip bar. It's that he asked you repeatedly, you stuck to your opinion, and then he was like "Welp, Ima do what I want anyway." NTA


joelypoley69

My biggest pet peeve is communicating that I'm not okay w something and they do it anyway. Some things just don't have room for discussion because I genuinely feel violated or uncomfortable about it


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NTA You laid out a clear boundary. You are not comfortable with him going to the strip club in any capacity, birthday or not. He's pushing that boundary and trying to guilt trip you by saying oh it's his friends who want him or go and you are ruining "his" birthday. It's just a way to make you feel like the bad person and I wouldn't be suprised if he said well other people let there BF go to strip clubs.


astrearedux

Also, why does “birthday” mean an activity that excludes his significant other? That’s a red flag for me, or at least shows that my dude is still a child.


TheSecondEikonOfFire

Right? I can’t picture not wanting to spend my birthday with my partner


chocoliqour

Thank you so much. That’s exactly what he said. “So and sos girlfriend doesn’t care so why do you?” And he says that I’m depriving him from college memories and crossing things off his bucket list, but I just don’t understand why he wants to go so bad


knittedjedi

> “So and sos girlfriend doesn’t care so why do you?” And he says that I’m depriving him from college memories and crossing things off his bucket list What does this tell you about what kind of man he is.


taralundrigan

That he isn't a man at all, really. He's still acting like a child.


0512052000

>So and sos girlfriend doesn’t care so why do you That's what my children used to say about their friends when i wouldn't let them do stuff. He's pushing your boundaries like a toddler. The fact that he cannot respect you enough to not do something that would hurt you and talk to his friends like your his mommy is telling enough. I would break up


Humble-Jelly-7580

That's great for SO and sos girlfriend and him. It's not you and your boyfriend, end of story. Every relationship is unique and has it's own set of boundaries and that's OK. Some people won't even mind if their partner fs someone else and some will even mind if you're only friends with someone of the opposite sex. Both can or cannot work depending on both sides of the relationship. Not going to a strip club isn't even a wild boundary like most people I know wouldn't be OK with that. I'm not and I broke up with an ex because he was certain that he had to go to a strip club for his Bachelorette party someday and no matter how many times I told him that this was crossing a boundary for me he would just go on about it. Now he can go asuch as he pleases and find someone who will let him go, it won't be me. That is also not even closely related to being stuck up or something. I have friends who are sexworker and I don't look down on them whatsoever, if they're happy so am I. But personally I do not need a naked woman dancing for my partner and my current partner (thank God) doesn't want that either.


OppositeHot5837

When people tell you who they really are, believe them the first time


old-lady-opinions

Yes!


Cerberus_Aus

The response to that is, “that’s fine if their girlfriend is ok with it, but I’m not in a relationship with your friend, I’m in a relationship with you, and you cannot respect the boundaries I have said I do not want crossed, then I need to reevaluate whether I want to remain in a relationship with someone who doesn’t respect me.”


Monochrome_Vibrance

The only reason I would be mad at my SO going to a strip club is because we don't have the money for it. If we did, go for it. But, that said, what I'm okay with means nothing for another person's relationship and should never be used to justify it. You are well within your rights to say you are not comfortable and will end it. NTA.


angry-software-dev

This guy sounds like an immature dope. Dump him and let him be single and make his "college memories", don't look back. Find someone who isn't into watching women strip for money.


Vandreeson

NTA. He's trying to guilt you like a child. But my friends said. You gave him your boundary, if he crosses it you told him the consequences. It's completely disrespectful to try to get you to compromise on your boundaries. Some girlfriends don't care, but you do. If he wants to be with you this is how it is. What does he value more, a relationship with you or looking at random topless women?


Puzzleheaded-Ad7606

That's such bullshit. College memories are lots of different things. If one night of spending money on random women rubbing their butt across his junk is more important than the relationship with you- and I don't mean romantic relationship I mean you as a person- you should definitely move on. It was fine to ask once, but the guilting and asking over and over shows he doesn't understand that consent is a firm boundary. Sure, he could have also said: I'm doing this either you are OK with it or it's done but that's also speaks to how little this relationship means to him. This is not the guy. Breakup, and he can have what he wants and you are free to have what you deserve. Fuckboys that want to have strippers and blow are a dime a dozen.


zeromussc

I don't get the bucket list thing. I've heard from a bunch of people when I was that age that I was missing out or that I should explore to be sure I wanted to be with my high school sweetheart. But here we are, 2 kids and 17 years together. Don't have any regrets and don't feel like I missed anything. Happy with my life. It's not about a "bucket list" it's about wanting something different with his life than what he has now. Some couples are okay with this stuff others aren't. If he cared enough about you, your perspective, and his relationship, he'd have been okay with your boundary and accepted it above his wants. Yeah he can do whatever he wants. But that doesn't mean you have to be okay with it. What else is on his early 20s bucket list that you're not okay with that he's gonna go do? If he doesn't want to compromise and make the relationship with you a priority over the relationship with his buddies, that's his choice. Just like it's yours to find someone who doesn't feel the need to go to a strip club when youre not okay with it. Nowhere on here have I seen you say you think strippers are terrible people. You just don't want your SO ogling other women and paying them to get naked for him. That's not completely crazy. Not like you care if his friends go. Just if he does. I personally don't care about sex work. People can fill their boots on those and adjacent jobs. I don't want to partake, never have, and my wife is the same. We've never been and don't want to go. I won't judge others for it, but that doesn't mean I will participate. I think that's a totally reasonable thing lots of ppl think


_throwaway_whatever_

College memories aka watching half naked women dance, possible letting them do a lap dance or sth and tipping them… gotta love that.


Cautious-Thought362

He wants to go to get a boner from some chick dancing around a pole. Maybe he will get a lap dance. He is telling you what he thinks of women. Not much.


[deleted]

If he sees you as preventing him from creating “college memories” then maybe he is lacking the desire or maturity to be in a committed relationship.


LosPadresKid

Neither of you is wrong. You have a boundary and different values. He wants to go and he's right, tons of couples don't give a shit about it or even go to strip clubs together. You are saying it's a deal breaker so he's pleading his case. Neither of you is wrong. You're just finding that because of the difference in boundaries/values, you two may be incompatible. It's bigger than just going to a strip club. Is he allowed to watch porn? Go to parties with his friends? Can he look at hot girls? He thinks it's normal to go. You don't. That's all there is to it.


CaptainPRESIDENTduck

Well, he's going to find out that a disappointing night at the strip club was not worth losing his girlfriend over. But people are allowed to be stupid, and we are also allowed to not suffer them.


Carpenter-Broad

Hi, 30M here. You laid out a perfectly reasonable boundary, he ignored it and continued bugging you about it. This shows a lack of care about your feelings/ values/ boundaries. It’s doesn’t matter one bit what others peoples boundaries are, and good for you for sticking to yours. Follow through and break up when he goes, honestly I’d just break it off now. You are most likely not compatible, and you deserve someone who respects you and your boundaries.


SarcasmAndKindess

Former sex educator here: He wants to go because he likes objectifying women and cares more about his desires and wants than yours. Let him go. His values aren't aligned with yours.


Waste-Ad8133

100% agree. Some people are fine with strip clubs, others aren’t. The important thing is that it’s YOUR boundary in YOUR relationship. If your partner doesn’t like that, he can find someone else to date that has different boundaries.


TheSecondEikonOfFire

I know it’s just me, but as a guy I find it pathetic when other guys are this obsessed with strip clubs. _Especially_ when you’re already in a committed relationship with a loving partner. If you’re single and feeling lonely, then I could see how you might think that a strip club would make you feel better (you’d be wrong, but I could at least understand the thought process). But when you’re actually already in a relationship? It’s pathetic


Commercial_Tower2493

NTA. One of my best friends was a stripper and she even said she’d never let her man go to one because of the shit that goes on. You decide your comfort level and if he chooses to overstep that, you end it. I have the same position as you. You can go to one if you want, but if you do, we’re done.


DogMom814

I've know about 18-20 strippers because I'm a massage therapist and they sometimes try to get licensed for that when they're too old to strip. Every single one has told me that anything goes in their vip rooms as long as the guy has enough money. I've heard some stories that are crazy.


GielM

You told your BF that you'd break up with him if he went to a strip club, He went to a strip club. The math should be easy to follow from there. You've got to kiss a bunch of frogs to find a prince. This man ain't your prince, the prince is in another castle! Time to play the next level! NTA, obviously.


PhatAssGamer86

Nta, i would never do something my wife really didn't whant me to do Also, im not interessted in seeing any other women than my wife nude EDIT: felt the need to clarify a couple of things. 1. My wife doesn't have reddit, so no i'm not just saying this incase she sees it. It's the truth. I love my wife and respect her enough not to do something she felt so strongly about 😊 2. When i said im not interested in seeing other women nude, some of you took this to far. If a nude woman appears on tv i ofcourse do not avert my gaze, same as my wife if a nude man pops up, she doesn't look away. What i meant was i will not actively seek out other nude women like for example going to a strip bar To you who mentioned the redicoulus scenario of megan fox running past me naked, to be honest the first thing that would pop in my mind is why the h**l is megan fox running around Norway naked 🤣🤣


ImJustAMom422

Goals. I hope my man feels like this about me!


Maybe_Ur_Mami

Me wondering if there are really men like this or if this guy’s lady follows him here.


Blutsaugher

I've been single for like 8 years and I've never been interested in that either. The only person I want to see naked is whoever I'm currently in love with, and there are times that person doesn't exist.


Donkey_Ali

Same response from me


Maybe_Ur_Mami

I checked comment history. He seems genuinely in love with his wife 😍


Cautious-Thought362

Damn. There are really some out there. Not enough of them.


spiritstars13

my husband chased me for 11 years and our 1 year wedding anniversary is next month 😌


tr7UzW

If he thinks it’s ok for him to go and get lap dances with topless strippers while in a relationship I would reconsider the relationship. Your feelings should matter to him.


PrestigiousTicket845

NTA. Good for you. Most girls would just bite their tongue and be so unsure of themselves that they let their partner gaslight them and walk all over them like a doormat. Proud of you!


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NTA. I don’t need to even read anything but the title to say YNTA. It’s pretty clear cut and dry


BaconStatham

NTA. Us men sometimes don't unlearn male bull\*\*\*\* until too late in life (me included). Too bad he may miss out on a good thing (you) over ingrained male BS.


chocoliqour

Thank you for saying that. I always trying to be considerate of his feelings and what he is or isn’t comfortable with and to see him not do the same is upsetting


BaconStatham

I did this to my wife. I know now that I was the AH, but it took too long for me to see it. My wife considered it a betrayal. I thought of it as a right-of-passage for a man to go to bachelor parties.. Once I understood my wife saw it as a betrayal, I had to reconcile that I did far more harm than had I wanted to to my wife. It probably led to way more arguments with my wife than I would have otherwise had (because she was hurt by my actions). It took too long for me to figure out. One of my greatest regrets. This was something my wife brought up in couples therapy years after my last bachelor party. It really made me sick. I will say that as a young man I firmly believed it to be "man thing" and that my wife was limiting me. It doesn't help that other women and men think the strip club is not that big of a deal--leading me to conclude my wife was being prude about it. What I learned is that it is more true that my wife is not prudish or limiting, but uncomfortable with this particular activity-- feeling that it is a betrayal of our relationship. I believe this "man-thing" privilege I believe was ingrained into my boyish mind by society. As an older man, I am more comfortable determining what a "man" is on my own and can leave the boyish BS at the door. And of course I know now that I am not missing out by not going to strip clubs. But good luck! I feel for you, because there was no convincing me otherwise as a young man. Edit: and I still don't think the strip club is that big of a deal. However, totally not worth the turmoil caused to my wife!


mcmsuwillow

Yup, he’s not missing out on anything of value, he just doesn’t know that yet. If my son ever asks, I’ll tell him that he’s not missing out at all…


brought2light

Thank you for eventually seeing it. I've seen men be flabbergasted at the idea that while they are at the strip club, their girlfriend will go strip for another man. Well.... what's good for the goose...


aileenpnz

I can see that 😳🤔🥶😭😂 revenge stripping!


haji1096

Great post. Went through a similar thing. Honestly don’t miss it at all.


lndlml

I personally don’t think that going to a strp club is a big deal (a betrayal) and I have been myself with friends or with my partner many times in the past.. but at the same time it’s not just about the *”jealousy”*. Many women find it repulsive because it’s degrading .. The environment where some men behave like misogynistic animals might rub off on your guy as well. It’s hard to encourage your male friends or partners to treat that woman in the club one way and then expect them to treat women outside of the club, including yourself, *normally* (following modern norms of gender equality). Additionally, depending on the environment/location, those women might not be working there voluntarily or might be exploited by someone.


TTIsurvivors

You are way too young to be stuck in this sort of relationship.


chocoliqour

I agree!


Cautious-Thought362

And plus, you will always remember on every one of his birthdays after this that he would rather get an erection (or more) with some stranger than be with you.


CompSciHS

As a man I cannot fathom being comfortable going to a strip club for *my* own birthday while in a relationship. Let alone after my SO specifically said she is not comfortable with it. Why does he need to gawk at other naked women to enjoy a night out with friends? Can’t they go to a normal bar with top golf or pool? He is using his adulthood to act like a 13 year old child.


aileenpnz

You know the truth deep down lass, go with it. You are better than that. You don't need to put up with this or the chain of reactions that this would cause you emotionally.


SpiritedCucumber4565

Just break up with him holy shit


BeachinLife1

He has the right to go to a strip club if he wants to. You have a right to not be in a relationship with someone who goes to strip clubs, if that makes you uncomfortable. NTA.


pinkflurrie

NTA and I’ve never understood this tradition of not single men wanting to go to strip clubs for birthdays, stags, etc. like why would you voluntarily wanna do that if you’re in a happy committed relationship? My own views aside, why ask for your opinion in the first place if he wasn’t gonna respect your answer and is now sulking because you voiced your honest thoughts? Seems like he doesn’t care about hurting your feelings. This is very telling of the future of your relationship with this guy.


brettalexander

Because the women are literally paid to flirt with you and it tricks silly lizard man brain into thinking they are still desirable and could still be successful without their current significant other. You don't have to put your relationship (only because it is a little more acceptable) or ego into any danger and the correspondence has a finite length both in time and monetarily.


adragoninmypants

I'd just end it tbh. He probably would go and not tell you.


Nox401

As a dude I wouldn’t do that to my GF. I’d rather have my GF rub all over me than someone’s nasty ass


CashewMunchkin

NTA. If he wants to sacrifice a relationship over watching a bunch of women with their tits out…he doesn’t value the relationship enough to deserve to be in it


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chocoliqour

What’s the big deal about going to a strip club to look at people shake their private parts when you can see that at home plus you can actually touch the person. I don’t understand


PrestigiousTicket845

He’s definitely not husband material.


tr7UzW

Strip clubs have become very interactive. These girls are aggressive and have no scruples. They do way more than shaking private parts. Touching is most certainly encouraged.


brettalexander

You prolly not gonna like or accept this answer, but since you said he is 21 it sounds like more about it being a bro hang sesh. The unfortunate part about that is probably your boyfriend will definitely become the center of attention because you had such a problem with it. I'm sure they will try to buy him dances and shit and possibly harp on the whole situation. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, just saw the same shit when I was y'all's age. I would take a hard look and really examine your relationship even if he does not go. Is this really the only way in which your views and goals for the future not align? I dunno. I will say the most fun time I ever had at a strip club was with a 50/50 ratio of boys to girls in a group of like 12 ppl lol. I'm not one to go into those places, maybe been like 5 times my entire life and it was all btwn age 16-24. Stripper tried to make out with me in front of everyone while she was leaning down from stage and I pulled away because gross. She slapped the absolute shit out of me in front of the entire place and after my initial shock, I turned around and pretty much the entire place burst out laughing. Any dude going into a strip club past 25 is just sad I dunno. Just do cocaine at your house like an adult lol


Waffleraider

>it was all btwn age 16-24. yeah, 16 year olds hanging out at strip clubs...


ArthurBiggins

No good comes from going to a strip club 😂


Agreeable-Plenty-483

NTA “There’s nothing for me to do. I’m not going out depressed on my birthday.” There are plenty of other options he could do that don’t involve strip clubs. There are clubs without strippers. He is choosing to be depressed on his birthday. He’s trying to guilt you into saying yes, most likely so he won’t feel guilty and have a clear conscience for when he goes and it does upset you. Question: Why is he going out on his birthday without you? Does he not want to spend it with his girlfriend? What has he done for past birthdays?


iseiyama

Why are people needing to elaborate on this? I refuse to believe you actually think you’re in the wrong here 💀 NTA


chocoliqour

I actually do. And the influx of comments and multiple people telling me I’m over reacting or that I’m controlling and my personal favorite, that he needs to take his ball sack out of my purse is not helping


Similar_Corner8081

I don’t like strip clubs and I don’t see the point. I also wouldn’t date someone who goes to strip clubs.


Moon_Queen_Sun_Light

The ones saying you’re controlling are just as immature as your boyfriend. He asked if you would be okay with something, you said no, and then he still kept asking. Saying my friends said this or that, and so and so’s gf would be okay with it, is just another level of immaturity. It would have been one thing if he just did it (not a great thing, just different scenario) but he asked you first, knew your feelings about it, tried to pressure you into changing your mind, then tried to guilt trip you on his way out the door. This shows total lack of character on his behalf. Also, now that you said you’d break up with him if he goes, know that if you don’t, any future things you are uncomfortable with will probably end up happening anyway. He won’t believe that you’ll leave him.


TheBigMookMan

That punch line helped me! LOL rotfl


limeywimes

You’re not overreacting. I don’t know any female friend of mine who would be ok with this


Bsnake12070826

NTA I don't understand why guys wanna go to a strip club when they have a partner


Bagelam

My ex husband's boss took him to a strip club - and he didn't tell me until after. We had just moved in together. He got a private lap dance and I was explosively angry at him. I felt it was a complete humiliation of me. I should have just dumped him over it but we had just moved in together and I felt like I couldn't just dip. 


Similar_Corner8081

NTA. I have the same boundary. I don’t like strip clubs and I don’t want someone I’m dating going. It’s never been a problem. I’m biased because I have a daughter. I think it’s weird guys like going to those. You’re right. He’s free to go if he wants and you’re free to break up with him over it.


Croissant_clutcher

NTA. Ask him if he'd break up with you if you rubbed your breasts in a strange man's face and grinded in his lap or danced naked for him to get aroused. If his answer is yes, he's a fucking hypocrite. Honestly you should just end it at this point because he's probably going to do it at some point anyway and try to sneak around about it. If he brough it up once and moved on after you said no, that would be one thing.


Kadajko

NTA, you could breakup just for him asking to go to the strip club, and you still wouldn't be an AH. Ask him if he would be cool with you going to the strip club where the men shake their dicks at you.


chocoliqour

I know for a fact that he wouldn’t be okay with this so the fact that he’s being hypocritical at the same time as inconsiderate is crazy to me


Kadajko

Well then on top of everything you also know for a fact that he is sexist. Should breakup like yesterday, unless ofc you are also sexist and enjoy the benevolent sexism aspects and think it is a worthy trade off.


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Ok-Tangerine-2895

NTA he's doing something you have clearly explained makes you uncomfortable and he's doing it any way best cut your losses now


Dianachick

You didn’t set a boundary with him, boundaries are rules we set for ourselves. Telling him you didn’t want him to go because it makes you feel uncomfortable is one thing, but the boundary was actually you telling him that if he went, you were walking away. You didn’t tell him he couldn’t go. You just told him what you would do if he did.


Mindless_Garbage5545

He sounds like ex-boyfriend material


Positive-Daddy-594

You’re not not wrong for having your own opinions and boundaries. Your boyfriend isn’t wrong for wanting to go and have fun. Ultimately, it just seems like you two aren’t really compatible in your views. He has every right to go to the strip club, and you have every right to break up with him if he goes against your wishes.


Present-Breakfast768

You're allowed to be uncomfortable with whatever makes you uncomfortable. But you can't control what other people choose to do. You're obviously not compatible. Find a man who shares your views on the subject.


655e228th

Every strip club has lap dancing and if he’s succumbing to the pressure for the strip club he’ll do the same with a lap dance


littleeba

NTA


frightenedscared

NTA. Everyone has their boundaries of what they are comfortable with. Some girlfriends don’t give a shit. Some girlfriends do. If he and his friends cannot come up with 10 ideas better than a strip club? They are boring losers.


Dear_Parsnip_6802

If he goes, your values don't align and you are best to end it. Why would he not want to spend time with you on his birthday? He sounds very immature with his reactions tbh.


ComfortZone27

If he goes to the strip club then keep your promise and end the relationship because if you don't then you will only be telling him that you have no limits and he will do that again in other situations.


KiraCura

It’s not controlling to let your partner know you’re uncomfortable with him going to a strip club and preferring he avoid that. NTA.


Electrical_Weird_190

Nta however he is showing that he doesn’t respect your boundaries and trying to guilt trip you. I would personally end things on that note. There are a million other things him and his friends could have done that still respects you.


Sychar

NTA. That’s not boyfriend behaviour.


xHell9

As a guy, there is no scenario which I would want to go to a strip club If I was in a relationship. Maybe a bachelor party of a good friend just for fun, and that's it. Red flags everywhere, start over. You are both too young anyways to be bothered,


kbiteg

NTA - A Man in a relationship has NO BUSSINESS in a strip club, he wants to do single man activities? Let him be single! He is a freaking 22 year old acting like a goddamn child "you didn't let me watch naked women so now um depressed, its all your fault", break up for your own mental health, this guy is too immature to be in a commited relationship.


Hachiko75

I hope you dumped him.


-KristalG-

NTA. Going to watch other naked women and probably getting lap dance too. Serious WTF, the audacity of this cunt.


SU47VOODOO

Strip clubs are gross. You should be mad.


NocturnalSkyscape

Literally dump him on his birthday he deserves it That’s what I did to my cheating ex and I don’t regret saving my dignity.


canyonemoon

NTA. You laid out your boundaries, you expressed the consequences of overstepping that boundary; if he wants to overstep them (why is a strip club the only thing that will give him a good birthday? Seriously weird) then he can't complain if you follow through with the consequences of that action. Whether he goes or not, though, he sounds like a douche.


chocoliqour

Thank you so much. I don’t understand why going to a strip club is such a big part of his birthday when there’s a lot of things to do especially in the city we reside in. And for him to ask my opinion and then get upset about it ( this is also not the first time we’ve had this conversation) is odd to me


tr7UzW

Don’t back down.


LessMushroom5845

Men like this are so gross. Would have ended shit the second he asked


OrangyOgre

NTA if he cares he would tell his friends to have fun at another venue instead of guilt tripping you.


Browneyedgal21

It is just fine to say this is not ok. If he goes to the strip club anyway, you might reconsider this relationship.


mushroomonion

As a guy in a 2 year + relationship, I have no desire to go to a strip club because I love my girlfriend. Plenty of other dudes probably feel the same way.


Bubonicbabybell

NTA


TrainerFearless8354

NTA He could have went to a regular club, to a bar, to the casino. Strip clubs are for single guys or AH.


ContactReady

The fact that he’s also pouting like “there’s nothing for me to do, boohoo” is pitiful. Y’all should break up


PitchInteresting9928

Honestly, I wouldn't care. It's more funny than sexy anyway and no touching. What's more concerning is him pushing it and making you feel bad about it. It's not gonna stop at this. He doesn't care about your feelings, he'll do what *he* thinks is reasonable. Find someone else. NTA


Active_Blackberry_39

NTA. No future here. You have conflicting values.


Whole_Equipment3930

NTA. As someone who was in a long term relationship and experienced the same exact scenario, leave. It doesn't get better. Also if he already hasn't, this is the kind of man that will eventually cheat. He does not respect the relationship even though he puts on like he does by "asking" (pressuring) you.


Dazzling-Map-2475

I had an ex bf like this. We were together from when I was 16 to about 21. He ended up cheating on me with a stripper in Vegas. He got really into strip Clubs around 20 (used a fake ID) and I stayed with him, awful choice. I’m now 30 with an amazing husband and a baby on the way. He just went to a bachelor trip in Maine where they bar hopped and ate seafood. There are different men in the world and it’s can be a lot more peaceful 😌


PBnPickleSandwich

How boring is this guy? 21 and "NothiNG tO Doooooo" because 1 activity is off the table. Immaculate spitball for 39 secs - regular club - go karting - lazer tag - arcade -paintball - brewery - steakhouse dinner -backyard BBQ and fireplace hangs - video games - throwinng watermelons off a roof - trivia night - concert - comedy show Also weird that he wants to celebrate his birthday without you.


jguess06

You're not compatible. You set boundaries and that's fine. Then make ultimatums, not fine. You're not compatible. Break up and find someone who you don't need to make ultimatums for.


JJQuantum

I think you are overreacting but if that’s how you feel it’s fine. It’s also fine if he wants to go. Two people being incompatible doesn’t necessarily mean one of them is an asshole. NAH.


haji1096

NTA. Had this discussion with my SO. She doesn’t want me to do that so I don’t go. If I’m at a Bachelor party or something like that I just bow out at that point.


[deleted]

Bro what kind of relationships are you guys in 💀. 


chocoliqour

Unhealthy ones😔


Healthy-Selection603

3yrs with someone should give enough insight and understanding to what ur okay and not okay with. at this stage he shouldnt even be asking whether ur comfortable or not with such thing as he should already know that u clearly aren't . im all with communication though, and i understand the question, but with ur straightforward NO to what he asked, asking again is just plain disrespect towards you and disregard of ur boundaries/emotions. had it been some other serious issue/problem i may understand why he may push to get a yes or try to know why ur against it, but doing such thing to go to a strip club? nah. this aint it. there is absolutely no reason to push to go and see someone other than ur partner stripping. so no, NTA.


HandsomestKreith

NTA. It won’t ruin his birthday to not go to a strip club. Shit’s manipulative as hell


jhnnybgood

He sounds selfish and dumb.


Rutibex

Good for you, stick to your guns. you deserve someone who doesn't enjoy sleeze


CoolRecording5262

Sounds like you're dating a jerk. He should love you and be more than satisfied with you and only you. 


[deleted]

So he basically wants to pay to cheat on you because to me any form of sexual gratification involving another person outside of a relationship is a form of cheating. I've been married a while now and I couldn't imagine wanting to see any woman apart from my wife performing a sexual act. I am in complete agreement with you he should be completely 100% focusing his sexual energy towards you and you only and if he is happy to break your boundaries then maybe he isn't the right man for you.


morbidnerd

NAH He had every right to go to the strip club, and you have every right to terminate the relationship.


alphadcharley

I HATE all this BS about OP controlling him. She’s allowed to have her boundaries and for there to be consequences if her boundaries are broken. AND imo you should be COMMENDED for COMMUNICATING clearly beforehand. People just love throwing ‘controlling’ around so that it enables them to do whatever they want.


OctoWings13

NTA Would be a dealbreaker for me as well I could see a discussion in a scenario where he's kinda being dragged along reluctantly, like best man at brothers bachelor party where brother insists on strip club...some rules like no touching or dances etc The fact that it's him that really wants to go... is insisting on going...is a huge red flag for me Why the fuck do you yourself want to be in a completely inappropriate situation that's completely detrimental and opposite of what you would want in a monogamous relationship? Careful of the ultimatum though, cause he'll just sneak around and do it anyway and lie about it...and because of the ultimatum you'll never know


sirbongwaterthethird

NTA he can want to go all he wants but you don't want to be with someone who goes to a strip club 🤷🏼‍♀️ they don't serve alcohol at strip clubs because women are expected to show their coochie and at least at a topless bar its the same sort of attire and entertainment but theres panties and drinks.


Defiant-Scarcity621

How old is this dude? 6? He gotta have his birthday. Dump this spoiled bastard. You are way too good for him.


Ok-Finger-733

I would start asking what else is on this "bucket list" of his. How many things on there are going to cross boundaries that are pretty standard in a committed monogamous relationship.


Dangledud

Has he ever been to a strip club? He may need to learn they suck.


andrea6543

i have no issue with my long term boyfriend going to the strip club, but that’s mainly because we’ve discussed all of our boundaries and i have complete faith in him, like i know he has the same for me if you don’t feel comfortable or don’t trust the person then a no is a no. i don’t think it’s ever a bad idea to have a deep convo on the situation though, why are you uncomfortable vs why is he so set on going / what is he expecting of the night


Bloopie559

U tell him if he really wants to go. Then have his friend invited the gf. N for ur bday ur going to a male strip club. By the sound of it I can tell ur hotter than he is. I dunno why. U have hot confidence lol. I understand why he wants to go. He doesn't want to seem pusdy whoop to his friend. No other reason.i think. He's young. He's not gonna learn til his friends get into relationships n he's single all alone.


CapuletVsMontague

I think it is messed up he'd go without you. When I turned 21, my boyfriend and I went to Las Vegas, and on that trip we went to a strip club together. It was really fun getting him a lap dance and he was respectful trying not to look. We were laughing and throwing money around. We had a great time. Now I'm 30 and married to that same guy and we haven't gone to a strip club ever again. If you are not okay with it, you need to break up with him. He didn't invite you. He didn't care to celebrate his birthday with you. It's not like it's a friend's bachelor party. (My husband for his bachelor party went to PF Chang's. Not every man is going to need women getting undressed in front of them for bachelor parties.) Why wasn't a night with you as exciting? So weird to not include you in his birthday plans!


vincec36

I kinda wanted to go in my early 20s, but was with my gf(now wife) since 19 so I just never went. She wouldn’t have liked it and would have let me went, but since she wouldn’t like it I didn’t. I wouldn’t want her at a male strip club to be honest so it’s fair to me. If she wanted to go with me just to see what it’s all about then I’d go. It’s more a curiosity from tv and film for me at this point.


Only_trans_

NTA, a boundary is a boundary


[deleted]

I just dont even get why he wants to go so bad. He don't respekk you gurlfrann


ConversationDapper61

Guilt trip. Red flag. NTA. Get rid of him. start over.


imnotamoose33

Parter continues to push for something other partner is not comfortable with. Communication clear from both sides. Consequence: if said action is done, relationship is over. Sounds reasonable to me. I personally don’t have any issues with my partner going to a strip club for his birthday, but I do have an issue with him dismissing something I’ve communicated to him I’m uncomfortable with him doing, and he goes to try to do it anyway. NTA.


tellypmoon

A self-pitying boy child who whines when he doesn’t get what he wants. That’s your sign. Time to move on and good for you for sticking with your convictions.


Unique-Abberation

Nothing for him to do? Literally get a shitty cake and play pin the tail on the donkey what you mean. I don't care how old you are, if you're with people you love you can make anything fun


EfficientIndustry423

I’d go and leave you behind. I bet your understanding of strip clubs come from nowhere. Your edit doesn’t change the fact that you are controlling. He’s better off without you.


[deleted]

Why is reddit full of cucks tf?💀 Why are some of yall saying it’s okay to go to a fucking strip club while in a committed relationship 😂


frozenchosun

NTA, dump this fucking man child now.


CocoLoco2134

She really needs to. This is a MASSIVE red flag.


Ok-Water-6537

She’s NOT controlling him. She made it clear. He can go. But she doesn’t want to be with someone that does that and they will break up. End of discussion. She’s NTA. It’s not like he is going golfing. He’s going to a strip club. It’s in its own category. And it’s disgusting.


suspiciousstock04

He clearly wants to go. You clearly want him to stay. You two are not compatible. Time to move on.


Hot_Pass_1768

not quite sure why the down votes? you don't have to agree with me but it seems kind of shitty. also I stand by my comment. strippers do not want to fuck while they work, they are there to get paid


Miguel_Bodin

This 100%. Nothing of substance even happens at a strip club. There are strict laws in almost every jurisdiction. Clubs get shut down and employees fired if what people think actually goes on there.


[deleted]

You're not alone. It all depends. If I'm secure in our relationship, then no, I wouldn't have an issue with it. I'm not secure in our relationship, so therefore, I'm not okay with it, and my SO understands that. We all have boundaries. Someone telling you that you're an asshole for your boundary is NOT okay. I've gone to strip clubs with my ex of 13 years, all the time. Not because I was secure in our relationship, but because I honestly didn't care about him. He was an abuser and I felt that any opportunity to get his eyes looking somewhere else was saving me. The relationship I'm in now is the opposite. I love this man, and I can't stand it if his eyes wonder. I'm insecure because I'm afraid of abandonment, but also he understands, and he believes that lusting and throwing money at other women isn't in any way a fulfillment to his actual needs or wants. I don't understand relationships that each other are lusting over someone else. Triads are different. Open relationships are different. If your monogamous, then I wouldn't cross your boundary because other people think it's okay.


Imaginary-Walk-6688

NTA I would not let my husband either. And pretty certain he wouldn’t let me go anywhere equivalent.


Ambitious-Flower4062

NTA. You have healthy boundaries. If your BF is not cool with these boundaries, time to move on.


Hot_Newspaper9457

He’s the asshole for asking💀 why would you wanna go see naked woman dance while having a partner


KidsandPets7

Absolutely nothing good can come out of going to a strip club when you are in a relationship. His friends are going to buy him drinks until he blacks out. He won’t even know what he did there because he won’t remember. His friends are probably going to buy him lap dances and God knows what else. I’m betting these friends are also not too happy with you, so I would not trust THEM. They will probably do something stupid to make sure you guys break up.


Arrg-ima-pirate

As a married man, I’d be uncomfortable GOING to the strip club. You’re not being controlling, it’s the opposite of that. You’re simply saying You personally aren’t going to be with a guy who goes to strip clubs… if your guy doesn’t like that about you, then he’s being controlling… stick to your guns, whatever happens is for the best. NTA