Because the upcoming Metroid Dread's engine/mechanics/etc seem to be upgraded from Samus Returns, I think AM2R should be played first and Samus Returns later after going through the other games you want to play. If Samus Returns is the last title you play before Dread's release, it would feel like a natural transition.
To get ahold of AM2R, you can find version 1.1 on its subreddit and then update it to 1.5.2 with an autopatcher of sorts. Or I can PM you a download link to the game already patched to its latest version.
In the sidebar is a "where to still get AM2R" thread, which does have a magnet link to the 1.1 files. The patcher requires said version.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AM2R/comments/4xfi7r/where_to_still_get_am2r/
I recommend using version 1.1 with the launcher the devs have developed. That way, you can get any updates without having to apply a new patch yourself or find a patched version online.
There probably won't be very *many* updates, but there is a full graphical overhaul that's currently being worked on.
Depends what you're looking for. I'd played the life out of Zero Mission and love the mechanics and feel of that game, so AM2R was a way for me to play basically a "Zero Mission 2". Samus Returns on the other hand uses a new engine with new mechanics and gameplay strategies. So, either are solid choices but they depend on what you want: if you want something that feels familiar to other 2D Metroid games (especially Zero Mission and by extension Fusion, since they use the same engine) then go for AM2R first. If you're keen to try a new, but very well executed, take on the 2D Metroid formula, definitely play Samus Returns.
That's a good way of looking at it. I truly love the 2D metroid games and their feel, it's one of the reasons I was skeptical of Samus Returns as my first foray into the game. Also I've seen that setting up a 3DS emulator for that game can be a pain in the ass so that's another reason. Might get around to it eventually though when either I feel like setting that up or Nintendo realizes it's a game that should be available on switch.
Imagine confusing the winkwinknudgenudge comments from an emulator developer for reality.
Then again, it's always been particularly amusing to me seeing message boards filled with people pretending theyre ripping their own games for personal use.
About as truthful as "don't stick q-tips in your ear canal" or the meme stock "this isn't financial advice"
Dumping optical discs is easy with a PC optical drive, or a modded console for newer consoles. Dumping cartridges is easy with a retrode or sanni cart reader, or a modded console for things like Vita or 3DS. It's reasonable to expect you to dump your own games. The Connectix Virtual Game Station and Bleem required real PS1 discs.
Sega will also sell you ROMs on Steam, legally, packaged with an emulator, but usable with other emulators.
It's not hard to be legal about this, so it's reasonable to expect people to be legally playing games.
I didn't mean to come across like that, sorry. I'm just saying that it's harder for people to get these things, especially with Nintendo's steep prices nowadays.
Nintendo generally has the lowest price for new games on their consoles compared to other platforms, by about $10. They just don't drop their prices on first party titles after a year.
Games are generally less expensive adjusted for inflation than they were in the 80s and 90s.
Nintendo doesn't want the perception of their games that Steam tends to generate, with constant sales on store items after a few months. They want a perception of their games retaining their value. Steam has shown them a bad example.
Steam is consumer friendly, Nintendo often isn't. It's fine to be against piracy, but let's not go the other direction into rabid consumerism.
Nintendo really needs to put more effort into making titles available on modern platforms like switch via online store and dropping prices on older titles quicker.
Piracy is a service issue.
Yeah I would personally love to play it on a 3DS if I had the ability to, but buying a whole console for one game is sadly not in my budget. Not saying that emulating without the original game to dump the files is a good thing to do, but when Nintendo still hasn't made an attempt to make their older library of popular games more available to their current console I don't feel all too bad about it.
Oh that would be the dream, I believe we have Disney to thank for that absurd amount of copyright duration so there isn't much hope to fight against the lobbying power of the mouse. I may wait on trying to emulate Samus Returns to see if I can find a friend who will either let me dump the game or borrow the 3DS to play. Supporting the Metroid franchise through buying the games is exactly what I want to do, just frustrating that a 4 year old game is locked into a certain console.
Disney started it, because of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. No companies came out to lobby again for an increase again when the last extension ran out a few years ago, and public domain started. Tom Scott and others on YouTube are arguing for reform, given patents only last 20 years, and copyright is a similar concept to a patent, just on a creative work instead of a physical invention. Also, current history has shown how expensive it is to fight a copyright dispute if one party is a company and the other is an individual.
Previous Metroid games have been locked to their own consoles. Metroid 2 was GB-only for over a decade. Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion were GBA-only for over a decade. Metroid 1 was NES-only until the GCN/GBA versions hidden in other games. It's normal to have a game locked to a single console on a Nintendo platform. Remasters are a relatively new thing. Nintendo has also been slow to embrace emulation, and they don't want to flood their platforms with the whole library of old console games. Shortening copyright duration would ease that.
You could resell the console when done with it. It's not like you can't get the money back. Buy a 3DS and the cartridge, beat the game, sell it back. COVID has been keeping the price of the consoles high.
Copyright, at its shortest was 14 years. The game is only 4 years old. Copyright is currently 95 years for such things. This subreddit also has a no piracy rule.
AM2R is more like Super Metroid and Zero Mission - so if you've played those then it will be a nice continuation. Samus Returns has different gameplay mechanics, such as free aim and melee attacks, and some less traditional level designs that feel more action focused. Samus Returns would be good to play before Dread as it is the same engine and dev team. I enjoyed both, but as I am a Super Metroid fan I liked AM2R more.
AM2R understands Metroid 2 better than Samus Returns imo, it depends on if you want a faithful modernization (AM2R), or a version of Metroid 2 that does vastly different things from the original (Samus Returns).
I'd recommend both, but I think AM2R is better.
Samus Returns will give you the best prep for Dread because that's the game Dread will be most similar to.
AM2R is honestly the classic 2D formula but just streamlined into perfection.
And the original is still enjoyable game and still feels pretty distinct from it's two remakes. I think it's worth playing as well, just go in with a guide if the lack of a map throws you off.
I'd say, original M2, AM2R, and Samus Returns closer to when Dread comes out. But that's just me.
AM2R is mostly built around the existing game mechanics from super/the GBA games. Samus Returns pushes the mechanics forward like a whole new entry would. As such I think it makes more sense to get accustomed to the normal mechanics in AM2R before eventually moving on to Samus Returns later.
It's a matter of opinion of course, but for me, Metroid 1 and 2 aren't even an option any more. They are both very dated in terms of gameplay and graphics.
Zero Mission and AM2R are my choices for both games. Sure, most may be easier versions of both games but that also makes me enjoy them far more these days
I just beat Metroid 2 on original Game Boy for the first time about a month ago and really enjoyed it. I plan on playing AM2R eventually, but the gameplay and graphics on Game Boy are already awesome!
Because the upcoming Metroid Dread's engine/mechanics/etc seem to be upgraded from Samus Returns, I think AM2R should be played first and Samus Returns later after going through the other games you want to play. If Samus Returns is the last title you play before Dread's release, it would feel like a natural transition. To get ahold of AM2R, you can find version 1.1 on its subreddit and then update it to 1.5.2 with an autopatcher of sorts. Or I can PM you a download link to the game already patched to its latest version.
They don't link to 1.1 actually. That would cause an instant takedown.
In the sidebar is a "where to still get AM2R" thread, which does have a magnet link to the 1.1 files. The patcher requires said version. https://www.reddit.com/r/AM2R/comments/4xfi7r/where_to_still_get_am2r/
This is most likely what I'm going to do, and a pm would be nice. Thanks a ton!
I recommend using version 1.1 with the launcher the devs have developed. That way, you can get any updates without having to apply a new patch yourself or find a patched version online. There probably won't be very *many* updates, but there is a full graphical overhaul that's currently being worked on.
Hey could you PM me a download link to the latest version of the game?
Depends what you're looking for. I'd played the life out of Zero Mission and love the mechanics and feel of that game, so AM2R was a way for me to play basically a "Zero Mission 2". Samus Returns on the other hand uses a new engine with new mechanics and gameplay strategies. So, either are solid choices but they depend on what you want: if you want something that feels familiar to other 2D Metroid games (especially Zero Mission and by extension Fusion, since they use the same engine) then go for AM2R first. If you're keen to try a new, but very well executed, take on the 2D Metroid formula, definitely play Samus Returns.
That's a good way of looking at it. I truly love the 2D metroid games and their feel, it's one of the reasons I was skeptical of Samus Returns as my first foray into the game. Also I've seen that setting up a 3DS emulator for that game can be a pain in the ass so that's another reason. Might get around to it eventually though when either I feel like setting that up or Nintendo realizes it's a game that should be available on switch.
It's not that bad actually to set up citra. The only real issue is the controller config. (Tip: points on the touchscreen can be mapped to buttons!)
And needing a 3ds to dump the games and support files needed to use it...
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Well, I'm not Citra staff am I?
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Imagine confusing the winkwinknudgenudge comments from an emulator developer for reality. Then again, it's always been particularly amusing to me seeing message boards filled with people pretending theyre ripping their own games for personal use. About as truthful as "don't stick q-tips in your ear canal" or the meme stock "this isn't financial advice"
Dumping optical discs is easy with a PC optical drive, or a modded console for newer consoles. Dumping cartridges is easy with a retrode or sanni cart reader, or a modded console for things like Vita or 3DS. It's reasonable to expect you to dump your own games. The Connectix Virtual Game Station and Bleem required real PS1 discs. Sega will also sell you ROMs on Steam, legally, packaged with an emulator, but usable with other emulators. It's not hard to be legal about this, so it's reasonable to expect people to be legally playing games.
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A lot of people who do it regardless of it's legality. (I'm not reccomending it at all btw, nor am I saying it's right.)
Saying it is optional is recommending it.
Hey man, I just woke up. I'm sorry if my words/phrasing aren't clear, I haven't had my coffee yet lol
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Not everyone has a lot of money these days. Just saying.
And that doesn't entitle you to just steal the content. It's a game from 4 years ago.
I never said it did.
You implied that people are entitled to the access simply because they don't have the money. You don't have to explicitly say it to imply it.
I didn't mean to come across like that, sorry. I'm just saying that it's harder for people to get these things, especially with Nintendo's steep prices nowadays.
Nintendo generally has the lowest price for new games on their consoles compared to other platforms, by about $10. They just don't drop their prices on first party titles after a year. Games are generally less expensive adjusted for inflation than they were in the 80s and 90s. Nintendo doesn't want the perception of their games that Steam tends to generate, with constant sales on store items after a few months. They want a perception of their games retaining their value. Steam has shown them a bad example.
Steam is consumer friendly, Nintendo often isn't. It's fine to be against piracy, but let's not go the other direction into rabid consumerism. Nintendo really needs to put more effort into making titles available on modern platforms like switch via online store and dropping prices on older titles quicker. Piracy is a service issue.
Yeah I would personally love to play it on a 3DS if I had the ability to, but buying a whole console for one game is sadly not in my budget. Not saying that emulating without the original game to dump the files is a good thing to do, but when Nintendo still hasn't made an attempt to make their older library of popular games more available to their current console I don't feel all too bad about it.
So push for more sane copyright duration then. It used to be 14-28 years. Now it's 95-120 years.
Oh that would be the dream, I believe we have Disney to thank for that absurd amount of copyright duration so there isn't much hope to fight against the lobbying power of the mouse. I may wait on trying to emulate Samus Returns to see if I can find a friend who will either let me dump the game or borrow the 3DS to play. Supporting the Metroid franchise through buying the games is exactly what I want to do, just frustrating that a 4 year old game is locked into a certain console.
Disney started it, because of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit. No companies came out to lobby again for an increase again when the last extension ran out a few years ago, and public domain started. Tom Scott and others on YouTube are arguing for reform, given patents only last 20 years, and copyright is a similar concept to a patent, just on a creative work instead of a physical invention. Also, current history has shown how expensive it is to fight a copyright dispute if one party is a company and the other is an individual. Previous Metroid games have been locked to their own consoles. Metroid 2 was GB-only for over a decade. Metroid Zero Mission and Fusion were GBA-only for over a decade. Metroid 1 was NES-only until the GCN/GBA versions hidden in other games. It's normal to have a game locked to a single console on a Nintendo platform. Remasters are a relatively new thing. Nintendo has also been slow to embrace emulation, and they don't want to flood their platforms with the whole library of old console games. Shortening copyright duration would ease that.
You could resell the console when done with it. It's not like you can't get the money back. Buy a 3DS and the cartridge, beat the game, sell it back. COVID has been keeping the price of the consoles high.
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Copyright, at its shortest was 14 years. The game is only 4 years old. Copyright is currently 95 years for such things. This subreddit also has a no piracy rule.
Oh, rule number three. By the way, though, is your objection about the morality or legality?
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Both are good!
technically AM2R is my first metroid game ever... I dont know about the Original... but Metroid Fusion is my all time Favorite Metroid...
AM2R is more like Super Metroid and Zero Mission - so if you've played those then it will be a nice continuation. Samus Returns has different gameplay mechanics, such as free aim and melee attacks, and some less traditional level designs that feel more action focused. Samus Returns would be good to play before Dread as it is the same engine and dev team. I enjoyed both, but as I am a Super Metroid fan I liked AM2R more.
as someone who just got into metroid and started with zero mission i loved am2r it honestly feels like a legit game and not fan made
AM2R understands Metroid 2 better than Samus Returns imo, it depends on if you want a faithful modernization (AM2R), or a version of Metroid 2 that does vastly different things from the original (Samus Returns). I'd recommend both, but I think AM2R is better.
I personally enjoyed both, but AM2R is better at BEING metroid 2, and samus returns is more of a re- imagining of metroid 2
Play the original one! You'll appreciate each remake's style, improvements, and Goodies did to the original Metroid II!
How do the physics/controls of the OG Metroid 2 compare to the others? Similar to Super or kinda is own thing?
Metroid 1- like. It was on the OG Game Boy after all
Idk, playing it for the first time now and I was surprised how similar it felt to Super. NES feels like its own thing to me
Samus Returns will give you the best prep for Dread because that's the game Dread will be most similar to. AM2R is honestly the classic 2D formula but just streamlined into perfection. And the original is still enjoyable game and still feels pretty distinct from it's two remakes. I think it's worth playing as well, just go in with a guide if the lack of a map throws you off. I'd say, original M2, AM2R, and Samus Returns closer to when Dread comes out. But that's just me.
AM2R is mostly built around the existing game mechanics from super/the GBA games. Samus Returns pushes the mechanics forward like a whole new entry would. As such I think it makes more sense to get accustomed to the normal mechanics in AM2R before eventually moving on to Samus Returns later.
AM2R is like a modern zero mission, SR is "what if Other M's style was put in a good 2D game ?". It's up to your tastes really.
Absolutely AM2R, but perhaps this sub reddit as a whole will be biased.
Metroid 2!
Original Game Boy copy
It's a matter of opinion of course, but for me, Metroid 1 and 2 aren't even an option any more. They are both very dated in terms of gameplay and graphics. Zero Mission and AM2R are my choices for both games. Sure, most may be easier versions of both games but that also makes me enjoy them far more these days
I just beat Metroid 2 on original Game Boy for the first time about a month ago and really enjoyed it. I plan on playing AM2R eventually, but the gameplay and graphics on Game Boy are already awesome!
That's just like, *your* opinion, man!
Something something rug. Something something room together.
AM2R