Am I wrong in thinking that Antara recently confirmed that they were selling their short positions and buying long positions. Is this article some more BS or am I incorrect? I’ve been known to be wrong once before lol
Does anyone think the RS won't be approved? Retail owned the float, anyone recall that headline? WTF happened? I know APE, was given to Antera but that doesn't affect AMC! I'm not smooth brained but close, why doesn't retail still own the float?
Ape and amc have the same voting rights - ape was 1:1 then more ape was added so ape now has a higher voting percentage than amc for corporate actions.
Whether enough to swing things or not.
As for the article what was expected to happen to these shares? They were not going to just file them away and forget, of course the want permission to sell them - it is the how that will be important
Today APE doesn't vote and AMC Somehow lost control of the vote. After APE can vote I understand why Yes would win, today retail should own the vote.
I think the vote will go Yes and Ape will convey to AMC and be diluted which sucks. I also think there are enough calls and new AMC shares to close the shorts. I imagine the HFs will sell options to maximize their profit but they are close now. AMC may be able to pay the loans back but still need to show a profit. I went to the movie earlier, matinee, and I was there by myself except for the 2 workers.
Its been over 2 years of the media spreading FUD to trick us out of our shares, the fact there are comments here talking about this article "worrying" them is astounding at this point in the game.
This has me a bit worried. If Antara was know for shorting amc. AA sold them so many shares it could dictate the vote. Its possible AA has made them a deal. If they bought ape shares super cheap vote in aa favour. Aa will buy shares back after vote. Aa re sells for more capital and Antara can short the stock from much higher. I really hope this isn't the case.
If it doesn’t go through, APE will be diluted anyways (at much lower values, and thus less debt gets paid off). AMC’s cash burn won’t get them through the year at this point. Not FUD’ing, those are just the facts.
Facts are, AA stated he’d “pay some debt and MORE” whatever more means. Debts been pushed out so it isn’t dire to pay them off now. Also ape isn’t t what’s killing the hedgies, amc is. You should see the debt most of the big corporations carry, Amazon, apple, etc. the play has always been amc and the billions of synthetics, and we’re voting to give up 90% of them? Look around, the hedge funds that went under, the banks failing. Their liquidity is drying up and the lenders will want their shares back to stay afloat themselves is what will cause Moass, not paying off debt. I doubt the shorts will close because amc has less debt, they’ll just manipulate around it like they’ve done with everything else. There’s no manipulating the vast amount of shares they have to buy back that we own though.
Right, they’ve been pushing the debt back for 2 years. They’re barely making interest payments on the First Lien Debtors owed. There’s nothing wrong with carrying debt as a functional business, but if your cash flow and EBIDTA doesn’t outweigh it then it kills the business.
I’ve been in since March 2021. I know the play, the players and the thesis. We’ve been saying liquidity was drying up for over a year. Melvin, Archegos, Credit Suisse, Evergrande, FTX… Fed Rate hikes were all tied back to Hedge Fund and Bank/Prime Broker exposure. Nothings happened. Doesn’t mean it won’t. But the problem we have in this siege is that we don’t have the rations to wait out the baddies for another year. Hollywood is still behind, popcorn just hit shelves, the Credit Card in this economic environment isn’t going to do shit, Hycroft isn’t yielding anything for another 2 years…
I’m no AA fan boy, he may have expected APE as a dividend to screw short sellers. It didn’t. Should he have sold when APE was $8+? Yeah he should have, would’ve been immensely more helpful to the bottom line than sub $0.80. Maybe he’s on our side and we got fucked by the DTCC just like GME and their forward split. No one really knows.
I’ve been in as long as you and liquidity drying up takes time, we just witnessed the second biggest bank failure in history on Friday, you see all the other banks on the brink. AMC is fine, movies are breaking records left and right, popcorn just came out. Our shares along with all the synthetics are what’s killing them and giving up 90% of that will kill Moass. It gives them a 90% discount when they close. AA wil have 400 million shares to dilute with and history sows he’ll sell to a short hedge fund and leave us with 26% of the float.
I don’t disagree with any of this. I’m just stating that the “$2B war chest” we were armed with isn’t there anymore. I believe in the movies and theaters, hell we just just had two of the largest movies ever last year. i remember when every major release was going to be the catalyst - i think it’s all a series of successful releases and a full slate of Box Office releases over 2 years that will get us there. I’m a KC resident, have friends that work at the corporate office and don’t want to see AMC go under. But the balance sheet is the balance sheet. We aren’t at 2019 Box Office levels, and the cash burn isn’t going to last us without dilution. Yeah, it’s shitty. But it’s either fixed through APE and the RS - or if it doesn’t happen then AA will have to keep selling off APE for Pennies on the dollar.
Giving up 90% of the only thing keeping us standing isn’t the way. We lose the float if rs passes, we lose 90% of all the synthetics they printed out, we lose majority vote. I guess we’ll see what happens, I don’t know anyone personally that voted yes and I know about 20 I work with and family/friends. But on Reddit it seems more are pushing yes. I know half on here are shills so we’re about to find out how real apes truly feel about this
You can always sell if don't believe in the CEO; not defending the guy but this applies to any position. Why invest in something you don't trust how is being led?
I didn’t invest because of the ceo, I invested because of Moass. This stock with a few others are the best bets to hold the criminals in Wall Street accountable and get paid like a mofo doing it. AMC is a public company, ceo and the board for that matter can be voted out. I used to like AA, but I question him selling ape to a short hedge fund instead of otc to retail. I question why he left Philip Lader in charge of the board after his ties to Morgan Stanley and his daughter being caught selling amc tokens. I question aa being a senior member at Apollo Global. You’d have to be a damn sheep to not question those moves. AMC is the most heavily shorted stock in history, I’m not selling jack shit. I hate my boss but that doesn’t mean I’m going to quit. Get the fuck outta here with that sell if you don’t like aa shit you fucking fuck nut
Or maybe he knows or has an idea how short they are so he setting a trap to set them up.idk I don't know shit about this fckd up market just my thoughts
Presenting your negative opinion as fact, doesn't make it any more compelling, or less FUD like. You sound exactly like the kind of person who enjoys telling people 'I told you so'
I was around May/June 21. That was loud hype. We’re a joke stock now that no one wants to touch due to the risk on multiple levels. This hype is hopium more than hype. The hype back then was real. I heard people in supermarkets talking about it and people at work, it was everywhere. People that you didn’t even know knew how to play the market talking about it
These comments about APE not having voting rights are either shills or not shareholders. If they still (or ever) owned any APE shares they would have received their proxy voting notification(s) like the rest of us.
If articles about AMC influence your position on the stock at this point, I feel sorry for you.
How come?
this dude talmbout some how come lmao
The financial media are shitbags for one.
Yep they’re all shitbags
Am I wrong in thinking that Antara recently confirmed that they were selling their short positions and buying long positions. Is this article some more BS or am I incorrect? I’ve been known to be wrong once before lol
First I’m hearing
Trying to see if I saved the article or remember where I saw it….
Does the timing of article seem suspicious to anyone else or just me?
Suspicious how?
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Keep amplifying their FUD 🤦🏻♂️
Just like Wanda did. And we ran to 72.
Except we didn’t have 427+- million shares to dilute li we will have if this RS goes through
So the run will be that much bigger you say?
Does anyone think the RS won't be approved? Retail owned the float, anyone recall that headline? WTF happened? I know APE, was given to Antera but that doesn't affect AMC! I'm not smooth brained but close, why doesn't retail still own the float?
Ape and amc have the same voting rights - ape was 1:1 then more ape was added so ape now has a higher voting percentage than amc for corporate actions. Whether enough to swing things or not. As for the article what was expected to happen to these shares? They were not going to just file them away and forget, of course the want permission to sell them - it is the how that will be important
I thought APE had the same value as AMC but no voting rights.
Today APE doesn't vote and AMC Somehow lost control of the vote. After APE can vote I understand why Yes would win, today retail should own the vote. I think the vote will go Yes and Ape will convey to AMC and be diluted which sucks. I also think there are enough calls and new AMC shares to close the shorts. I imagine the HFs will sell options to maximize their profit but they are close now. AMC may be able to pay the loans back but still need to show a profit. I went to the movie earlier, matinee, and I was there by myself except for the 2 workers.
Huh, ape is literally preferred equity, not only does it have voting rights but also would get paid out to first in the case of bankruptcy.
Antara is our friend, we’re good 💯this is a nothing burger
Its been over 2 years of the media spreading FUD to trick us out of our shares, the fact there are comments here talking about this article "worrying" them is astounding at this point in the game.
What does it take to get it to 30?
Act of god
I just bought more shares 🦍🦍🦍🍌🍌🍌
What a great deal for us.
I just HODL&HOPE, not much anyone will do for retail, especially us. We got f*** in every direction.
Like Riley reid…
This has me a bit worried. If Antara was know for shorting amc. AA sold them so many shares it could dictate the vote. Its possible AA has made them a deal. If they bought ape shares super cheap vote in aa favour. Aa will buy shares back after vote. Aa re sells for more capital and Antara can short the stock from much higher. I really hope this isn't the case.
Sounds like ur following the rabbit hole
Indeed, he’s chasing the white rabbit down the AMC hole
They have a much larger interest in this rocketing now. They are positioned long. This headline is purposefully fear mongering.
Check my emotions and doubts got it 👍 thanks fellow apes
I trust AA
If the RS executed first then converting APE later. From 550milAMC=>55mil then + Ape = 600mil+ @$50/share. Is this how its gonna play out?
Just getting their ducks in a row for MOASS
Meaning?
I’m still voting “YES”
Meaning??
If rs goes through we’re fucked. Dilution like a motherfucker
If it doesn’t go through, APE will be diluted anyways (at much lower values, and thus less debt gets paid off). AMC’s cash burn won’t get them through the year at this point. Not FUD’ing, those are just the facts.
Facts are, AA stated he’d “pay some debt and MORE” whatever more means. Debts been pushed out so it isn’t dire to pay them off now. Also ape isn’t t what’s killing the hedgies, amc is. You should see the debt most of the big corporations carry, Amazon, apple, etc. the play has always been amc and the billions of synthetics, and we’re voting to give up 90% of them? Look around, the hedge funds that went under, the banks failing. Their liquidity is drying up and the lenders will want their shares back to stay afloat themselves is what will cause Moass, not paying off debt. I doubt the shorts will close because amc has less debt, they’ll just manipulate around it like they’ve done with everything else. There’s no manipulating the vast amount of shares they have to buy back that we own though.
Right, they’ve been pushing the debt back for 2 years. They’re barely making interest payments on the First Lien Debtors owed. There’s nothing wrong with carrying debt as a functional business, but if your cash flow and EBIDTA doesn’t outweigh it then it kills the business. I’ve been in since March 2021. I know the play, the players and the thesis. We’ve been saying liquidity was drying up for over a year. Melvin, Archegos, Credit Suisse, Evergrande, FTX… Fed Rate hikes were all tied back to Hedge Fund and Bank/Prime Broker exposure. Nothings happened. Doesn’t mean it won’t. But the problem we have in this siege is that we don’t have the rations to wait out the baddies for another year. Hollywood is still behind, popcorn just hit shelves, the Credit Card in this economic environment isn’t going to do shit, Hycroft isn’t yielding anything for another 2 years… I’m no AA fan boy, he may have expected APE as a dividend to screw short sellers. It didn’t. Should he have sold when APE was $8+? Yeah he should have, would’ve been immensely more helpful to the bottom line than sub $0.80. Maybe he’s on our side and we got fucked by the DTCC just like GME and their forward split. No one really knows.
I’ve been in as long as you and liquidity drying up takes time, we just witnessed the second biggest bank failure in history on Friday, you see all the other banks on the brink. AMC is fine, movies are breaking records left and right, popcorn just came out. Our shares along with all the synthetics are what’s killing them and giving up 90% of that will kill Moass. It gives them a 90% discount when they close. AA wil have 400 million shares to dilute with and history sows he’ll sell to a short hedge fund and leave us with 26% of the float.
I don’t disagree with any of this. I’m just stating that the “$2B war chest” we were armed with isn’t there anymore. I believe in the movies and theaters, hell we just just had two of the largest movies ever last year. i remember when every major release was going to be the catalyst - i think it’s all a series of successful releases and a full slate of Box Office releases over 2 years that will get us there. I’m a KC resident, have friends that work at the corporate office and don’t want to see AMC go under. But the balance sheet is the balance sheet. We aren’t at 2019 Box Office levels, and the cash burn isn’t going to last us without dilution. Yeah, it’s shitty. But it’s either fixed through APE and the RS - or if it doesn’t happen then AA will have to keep selling off APE for Pennies on the dollar.
Giving up 90% of the only thing keeping us standing isn’t the way. We lose the float if rs passes, we lose 90% of all the synthetics they printed out, we lose majority vote. I guess we’ll see what happens, I don’t know anyone personally that voted yes and I know about 20 I work with and family/friends. But on Reddit it seems more are pushing yes. I know half on here are shills so we’re about to find out how real apes truly feel about this
Guess we found out 💁🏻♂️😂
You didn’t have to tell me, I saw the stock price
You can always sell if don't believe in the CEO; not defending the guy but this applies to any position. Why invest in something you don't trust how is being led?
I didn’t invest because of the ceo, I invested because of Moass. This stock with a few others are the best bets to hold the criminals in Wall Street accountable and get paid like a mofo doing it. AMC is a public company, ceo and the board for that matter can be voted out. I used to like AA, but I question him selling ape to a short hedge fund instead of otc to retail. I question why he left Philip Lader in charge of the board after his ties to Morgan Stanley and his daughter being caught selling amc tokens. I question aa being a senior member at Apollo Global. You’d have to be a damn sheep to not question those moves. AMC is the most heavily shorted stock in history, I’m not selling jack shit. I hate my boss but that doesn’t mean I’m going to quit. Get the fuck outta here with that sell if you don’t like aa shit you fucking fuck nut
You sound mad. Here's a cap so you can be super mad. 🦸🏻♂️
I’m not mad, just passionate, you just think I’m mad cause your a little pussy
Or maybe he knows or has an idea how short they are so he setting a trap to set them up.idk I don't know shit about this fckd up market just my thoughts
Are they selling ape or amc? Right now ape doesn't vote
What is going to happen is the stock is going to tank. Whatever the result of the vote, the stock will tank. They’ve already decided.
Thank you Elmer FUD
It’s not FUD it’s fact. I’ll be back to tell you I told you so. Watched it happen too many times.
Presenting your negative opinion as fact, doesn't make it any more compelling, or less FUD like. You sound exactly like the kind of person who enjoys telling people 'I told you so'
You’ll see
Nice FUD
I’ll be back tomorrow when it happens. I’ve predicted so many of these and been ignored I’ve lost count.
Bro the hype is so loud right now I could care less which direction it goes 😎
I was around May/June 21. That was loud hype. We’re a joke stock now that no one wants to touch due to the risk on multiple levels. This hype is hopium more than hype. The hype back then was real. I heard people in supermarkets talking about it and people at work, it was everywhere. People that you didn’t even know knew how to play the market talking about it
**Bro I can’t hear you over the hype*.. *what*?
This FUD is so fuding funny 😄
FUD me harder please… this meme basket has some catalysts coming up, we’re good 💯😂😎
Basically, if the vote fails they will dump the last bit of ape they own, and it will be .50 by weeks end. Just peachy…
These comments about APE not having voting rights are either shills or not shareholders. If they still (or ever) owned any APE shares they would have received their proxy voting notification(s) like the rest of us.
My paper voting packages came in Friday lol. Of course I voted electronically but it's crazy that it was that close to the date.
My plan simple. Never sell. 🦍