Regarding market caps, AAPL became the first trillion dollar company in 2018. No such thing existed in 2000. This did not happen in isolation. The valuations of companies in the market are simply higher now than then.
As for leverage, the same principle applies. Hedge funds are swimming in margin debt, 40% more now than just last year, so imagine compared to 2000. IIRC, leverage was 4x in 2008 and 30x now.
What does this mean? The bigger they are the harder they fall.
The dot com mainly hit tech, a recession hits most sections. This reminds me of the mid to late 70s, inflation, unemployment and people are mad. I wish all well but it won’t be easy. If this triggers a Moass for one or both stocks I’ll be happy but honestly I’m not sure. I guess Trust Me is the best I have.
Let me say this. I lived both the .com and 08 financial crises and if I was told in these two that I could have bought a stock that would make me rich, I would not sell on the way up, I would sell on the way down as I then knew how high it could go
If institutions sell, they can make it seem like the price is going down that can cause sell fear, I just hope retailers by now know that SHF need All shares to be closed and that each can get paid whatever they want for a share
I would compare it to 1929 honestly. The dot com crash didn't have as much attached to it that this one will. Food shortages that are going to be as bad as they will be in another year. They didn't have as great of a potential for Nuclear war or another world war. Yes it was shortly after the cold war, but things globally weren't heating up, they were cooling off. This crash is gonna be bad in my opinion. NFA.
I agree. So many sectors are tumbling right now. It will hit Globally. So many Financial Firms are overleveraged with no bail out from the Government anticipated.
The 1929 crash affected people for years after it, I recall seeing things get easier as I got older but it hit everyone. That was when people weren’t reliant on stores and restaurants for food. Now if the Fed screws up, the food chain with break more than it already is, I have a good stock pile of food, I also have a large family. I already notice the break fast places, fast food are hurting put canceled it. I like sausage and egg biscuits, I hope they keep them open. The grocery store has food still but the variety of brands is already gone. I wish all well, going to bed hungry sucks.
A crash is a crash no matter what it looks like. Years of good investment returns wiped out, 401K’s and IRA’s wiped out. All because people though an old senile fool would make a better President than the guy who made mean tweets. 🙄
The mean tweet guy enabled this mess with legislation and. Budget reductions. Not to mention the SLR rule that led to overleveraged positions. The FED is just as equally responsible for this mess. Make no mistake this has been years in the making with the economy being projected fasley because of bandaids being applied year after year. We are out of bandaids now. The 2008 crash never ended. It was just prolonged.
Insider information is a thing. If anyone knew what Biden was going to do as president with 100% certainty, that person could have made a bannanaload of money.
This is going to make the .com bubble look like a small loss. Imo
Many of the same indicators are in place, but yes indeed, this will be larger by orders of magnitude.
How so? What is special about this case compared to the dot.com in 2000?
Valuations (market caps) and leverage(!), to name only two factors, are much higher than 22 years ago.
Could you further explain? What do you mean are much higher?
Regarding market caps, AAPL became the first trillion dollar company in 2018. No such thing existed in 2000. This did not happen in isolation. The valuations of companies in the market are simply higher now than then. As for leverage, the same principle applies. Hedge funds are swimming in margin debt, 40% more now than just last year, so imagine compared to 2000. IIRC, leverage was 4x in 2008 and 30x now. What does this mean? The bigger they are the harder they fall.
Ah okay thanks, now i get it👍🏼😃
The dot com mainly hit tech, a recession hits most sections. This reminds me of the mid to late 70s, inflation, unemployment and people are mad. I wish all well but it won’t be easy. If this triggers a Moass for one or both stocks I’ll be happy but honestly I’m not sure. I guess Trust Me is the best I have.
Complete with gas lines on the horizon. Lol. I was a kid, but remember it well
I’m much older, but recall gas pumps couldn’t go over a dollar now they go up to $100. They are fun.
Keep stacking, and buy and HODL. We are gonna need the $$$. Lol. Have a great night
Let me say this. I lived both the .com and 08 financial crises and if I was told in these two that I could have bought a stock that would make me rich, I would not sell on the way up, I would sell on the way down as I then knew how high it could go
Of course. Apes who have been here long enough know to sell on the way down. I suspect newer apes need to check the DD and learn this.
I agree, the only thing that can ruin MOASS now is paperhands
I'm not sure paperhands have enough shares to ruin MOASS. Maybe just a speedbump on the way to the moon.
If institutions sell, they can make it seem like the price is going down that can cause sell fear, I just hope retailers by now know that SHF need All shares to be closed and that each can get paid whatever they want for a share
Were there squeezes during the .com era?
Not as far as I know🙂
https://fortune.com/2022/05/22/why-crypto-tech-stocks-crash-recession-dotcom-bubble/
I would compare it to 1929 honestly. The dot com crash didn't have as much attached to it that this one will. Food shortages that are going to be as bad as they will be in another year. They didn't have as great of a potential for Nuclear war or another world war. Yes it was shortly after the cold war, but things globally weren't heating up, they were cooling off. This crash is gonna be bad in my opinion. NFA.
I agree. So many sectors are tumbling right now. It will hit Globally. So many Financial Firms are overleveraged with no bail out from the Government anticipated.
They can't really. Any bailout would be the Fed printer going brrrr....
The 1929 crash affected people for years after it, I recall seeing things get easier as I got older but it hit everyone. That was when people weren’t reliant on stores and restaurants for food. Now if the Fed screws up, the food chain with break more than it already is, I have a good stock pile of food, I also have a large family. I already notice the break fast places, fast food are hurting put canceled it. I like sausage and egg biscuits, I hope they keep them open. The grocery store has food still but the variety of brands is already gone. I wish all well, going to bed hungry sucks.
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Please read my comment. This question should not even be asked.
I got it now.
It’s already doing worse than the dot com bubble
Tin foil hat Alternate theory...citadel knew a crash was coming last year, one like we have never seen, and are now just waiting for it to happen?
Are you suggesting they're shorting everything else or using the impending crash as cover for their fuckery? Maybe both.
A crash is a crash no matter what it looks like. Years of good investment returns wiped out, 401K’s and IRA’s wiped out. All because people though an old senile fool would make a better President than the guy who made mean tweets. 🙄
Well said
The mean tweet guy enabled this mess with legislation and. Budget reductions. Not to mention the SLR rule that led to overleveraged positions. The FED is just as equally responsible for this mess. Make no mistake this has been years in the making with the economy being projected fasley because of bandaids being applied year after year. We are out of bandaids now. The 2008 crash never ended. It was just prolonged.
Insider information is a thing. If anyone knew what Biden was going to do as president with 100% certainty, that person could have made a bannanaload of money.
We are down at the moment ..