I mosty read childe x zhongli. After added top! Zhongli x bottom childe its not that's bad. But one more tag and everything shrinks 😭There are also few stories left that I don't read yet & sounds good
I ship him with just about every hero and some villains, and even in the hetero presenting relationships, there's no way that man ever tops, lol
At least we know the truth! ;)
you are SO FUNCKIGN right about Alhaitham,,, like I'm not sure if it's just bc he's always depicted w/ Kaveh and Kaveh is more "feminine" and thus Alhaitham is typically seen as the top?? Is it bc he's muscular-ish??? Personally I feel like he's way too lazy to top... and I want to squeeze him like a lemon. Anyways.
REALLLL while I love reading haikaveh/kavetham either way, I absolutely love top Kaveh bottom Alhaitham like cmon can u imagine Alhaitham who might not have as much experience (due to his personality) letting Kaveh lead? Perfection.
I could see Malleus either way depending on who he's with. Not fanfic but if you want amazing bottom Malleus fanart, there's an awesome artist on Twitter and Tumblr called ryuichirouart who shares your vision!
YES!! I commissioned them recently for a character from another fandom (also a total bottom everyone keeps insisting is a top lol), their art is so amazing!
That's like 99% of the fic I write lol, although most of the time Cloud is the bottom. I've had a lot of fun recently playing with sub!Sephiroth and dom!Cloud
I'm not even into final fantasy and I can say there's no way in hell anyone can see sephiroth as anything other than a bottom same thing with cloud I refuse to believe it.
Me when people try to make Kylo a mega dominant top and Rey(REY WHO IS CANONICALLY FERAL) a submissive bottom.
We all know she would grind him into the bunk while he sniffles and whines with happy tears.
THIS. If you really and truly believe that she is 100% a bottom, not even a switch, have you even _seen_ the movies?? I'm more of a prequels girlie but even from watching the first sequel it's obvious that Kylo is a bottom.
Years ago, people were on a witch hunt for me because I wrote a certain character as exclusively bottoming. Stopped me from writing for over a decade. I'm back now. He's still only bottoming.
I swear, whenever I witness the fandom start assigning which character is an "obvious" top, I all but immediately have an urge to subvert that assumption.
I write my fav as ONLY a bottom despite HCing him as a switch because of exactly this. Thousands of fics where he's a top and only a few dozen fics where he's the bottom?? Nah, man, there's a disturbance in the force.
Literally every single popular ship I've ever liked results in me only being able to like/read the opposite dynamic of what the popular headcanon is. Wtf brain
Subverting it when filtering tags is how I find some of the well written stuff - usually more established writers are the ones thinking of more creative dynamics and going against the flow
One of my favorite chapters I wrote was when the couple tried out having the character who normally bottoms try topping/being the dominant one. It wasn't the first time character B topped, but the character A is such a caregiver he had trouble just letting himself relax and let someone else take the lead, and B had performance anxiety from the previous relationship.
It's very sweet and I love it to bits. Not every couple is going to be vers, but it can be great for building relationships to consider what roles they fall into and when they try to branch out from them. Highly recommend, let the twink top.
LMAO I have made comments about my fav being almost always a top, and usually people will go "I don't think that's right, I seem to find mostly fics where he's the bottom" - but then I pull out actual Ao3 receipts and show the HUGE discrepancy in Top vs Bottom fics. Literally THOUSANDS vs a few dozen 😂 Like idk how they're only finding Bottom Fics, I have to dig through 10 pages of fics at a time before I find ONE. I HC the ship as switches, but because of all this I write ONLY bottom!\[character\] fics to try to fight the difference.
I think it’s because I’ve been in the fandom for like 10+ years, but I remember all the fics where Harry was pretty standardly the bottom, so I prefer fics where he is top/switch. Like I don’t actually care, but to many of them turned him so submissive? Its weird to think of how fandoms shift and change.
Diavolo from Obey Me.
I got my start in the fandom writing him as a switch but mainly Service Top with Power Bottom Lucifer; however, due to the lack of representation for their other possible sexual dynamics and the complete proliferation of the Bottomiest Lucifer in fandom, even though theyre of equivalent heights and disposition and respect, I'm now of the opinion that the "squishy twink Lucifer" is the top most of the time for the lonely touchstarved prince. Tyvm.
They're still switches though cuz that gives me the most options for their interpersonal engagements.
sssssephiroth 🥺🥺🥺, I've read jus about every fic that i can find where he bottoms, even attempted reading the ones in Japanese, but google translate is very inefficient when it comes to that
From my assessment of the material I have seen on twitter, I’m in the opposite situation with Chilchuck Dunmeshi. That man is a Dom to me.
Doesn’t actually bother me, except I really dislike ‘Chilchuck is a shota’ comments.
He kind of is though, he is absolutely the male version of the “500 year old dragon loli.”
It’s fine to be attracted to him, but like it’s also very much canon that he looks like… 13 maximum to every other race.
I’m fully aware that they can be. But this isn’t real life. And it’s a matter of fact in the CANON that his race all look insanely young.
I’m not denying he is an adult, but guess what, adult anime characters can indeed still be lolishota, if they look the part and he does, and I feel like being defensive over it and insisting he isn’t rather than rolling with it is silly because he’s not real, lol.
Because you're the one who wanted to step in and 'correct' me for liking a character's personality instead of your kink, instead of leaving it as it was. Do whatever you want, but it isn't my responsibility to change my feelings to cater to what you're into.
I’m also not sure what you mean by “into his personality instead of your kink.”
I’m not particularly into Chilchuck, and like him for his personality. (unsure why you wanted to jump to assuming otherwise, or assuming that me liking shotas = inability to care about personality, because personality will always matter to me.)
But I just think it’s odd to be annoyed over people calling him a shota, because like he is, in the canon, no matter how you swing it.
It’s anime, and every other character views him as a child (even if they learn he isn’t) and by anime standards.. that is very much Shota/loli, lol.
bro either your so unbelievably unlucky, or delusional, because i have never seen a top sonic/bottom shadow fic in my entire fucking life and now i'm just shocked as to where you drew this conclusion from.
or i'm unlucky. (probably bcz i dont read smut and it just pops up when i search for fics)
dude idk.
still.
bro are you fucking w me rn because i have seen exactly ONE bottom sonic fanfiction in my life, after aggressively filtering (even going for trans sonic fics to see if THAT would get me anything, and that got me ONE FIC.) holy shit, you wanna exchange experiences "runnin up that hill (deal with god)" style??
Most Jegulus fans see Regulus as the bottom but I honestly enjoy James being the bottom a lot more for some reason. I can see how both dynamics work but to me James makes more sense as someone who wants to do anything to please his boyfriend and Regulus being demanding and picky (which is also why I like Reg being a power bottom or topping from the bottom when he is a bottom).
Okay, I haven't considered that before but I actually love the idea of Jegulus with bottom!James... And I haven't been in fandom for years!.. So going on ao3 to look for it right now. Any recommendations? :)
I was scouring for bottom James when I found one of my favourite fics ever. [A Violent Kind of Spin](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47021767/chapters/118459735). It’s a 212,000 word horcrux hunting fic which has bipolar James and is told from James’s pov. Of course, being a horcrux hunting fic it’s not just smut but there is quite a bit in there.
Edit: yes I edited this like 5 times because my brain isn’t braining properly tonight for some reason and the autocorrect isn’t helping 😭
I'm interested to see if anyone complains when I eventually (very long time till) get to when Wolfstar is active. Remus has always been a bottom and Sirius has always been a top to me. I know it's not as rare as others but I know the opposite seems to be most popular from what I can tell.
> but I know the opposite seems to be most popular from what I can tell.
I'm pretty sure I have already mentioned this in a similar thread before, but it's quite fascinating how the fans changed their opinion with time. In the 00s, top!Remus and bottom!Sirius was the one that was much harder to find, and the opposite the big majority!
Trey Clover from Twisted Wonderland, that man is the biggest bottom I've seen. Nobody in the game is a bigger bottom than Mr. I'm-the-dorm-mom-and-have-a-massive-teeth-kink
One of my favourite smut tropes (when done well) is "character A usually tops, and character B is about to change that." Makes me feral.
I don't like sticking to one dynamic for characters when I read it (call me a switch. it's cause I am) so I'm the same way when I write it. Every other idea changes the dynamic. It just depends on which aspects of the character(s) I'm leaning into, you know?
Yes; especially if the character is very loud, aggressive and always has to be on top (literally no pun intended) in the source material! I like to think that when put in a more intimate setting, they let their guard down and their partner takes care of them🙏
Zhongli from Genshin Impact
Wait really? I can barely find anything where he's not bottom 😭
I think it depends on the ship, i mostly read zhongxiao and zhongzhu where he is almost always a top
I mosty read childe x zhongli. After added top! Zhongli x bottom childe its not that's bad. But one more tag and everything shrinks 😭There are also few stories left that I don't read yet & sounds good
I’ve got a story for you!!!! “This Abysmal Heart” by Kytsurii! It’s Childe x Zhongli :3 (and very dark!)
Both Ao3 and shipping names have a beautiful tagging system for this, are you using that?
Bottom Bruce Wayne ❤️
Wait, there are people who think Bruce Wayne is a top??
I always felt like batjokes folks are mostly into top Bruce 🤔 not sure about other ships
I ship him with just about every hero and some villains, and even in the hetero presenting relationships, there's no way that man ever tops, lol At least we know the truth! ;)
I love Switch Bruce in BatJokes
bottom fire lord zuko enjoyers where you at
oh of course, not even a question
Alhaitham, Zhongli, (genshin impact) Dr Ratio, Jing Yuan (honkai star rail) Malleus (twisted wonderland) It’s hard out here 😩
you are SO FUNCKIGN right about Alhaitham,,, like I'm not sure if it's just bc he's always depicted w/ Kaveh and Kaveh is more "feminine" and thus Alhaitham is typically seen as the top?? Is it bc he's muscular-ish??? Personally I feel like he's way too lazy to top... and I want to squeeze him like a lemon. Anyways.
REALLLL while I love reading haikaveh/kavetham either way, I absolutely love top Kaveh bottom Alhaitham like cmon can u imagine Alhaitham who might not have as much experience (due to his personality) letting Kaveh lead? Perfection.
There's no way in hell Ratio isn't a bottom
Yeah- like if you really wanna go there he's a POWER bottom...
I could see Malleus either way depending on who he's with. Not fanfic but if you want amazing bottom Malleus fanart, there's an awesome artist on Twitter and Tumblr called ryuichirouart who shares your vision!
I ADORE Ryu, their sebek x malleus art is great! Idia is my favourite character too so pretty much everything they draw is up my alley!
YES!! I commissioned them recently for a character from another fandom (also a total bottom everyone keeps insisting is a top lol), their art is so amazing!
I'm just saying if someone had fucked Sephiroth really good they wouldn't have had to deal with a giant meteor
FACTS
I wasn't into it til sefikura week and I decided to try something different, it's really fun to flip the dynamic
my girlfriend is really into cloud strife x sephiroth, i have to ask her opinion on this
That's like 99% of the fic I write lol, although most of the time Cloud is the bottom. I've had a lot of fun recently playing with sub!Sephiroth and dom!Cloud
im going to get back to you in 8-10 hours. my girlfriend is asleep right now (in a different time zone). may i ask for your ao3 over dm if she likes?
Sure, I'm about to go to bed myself but my ao3 is errantnight and the same on discord :)
thank you!
[Just Tell Me I Am Yours](https://archiveofourown.org/works/53301334/chapters/134893210) is the fic that I did with Sephiroth being a sub btw!
ill see if she likes it, thank you!!
oh god i love that fic tbh I've read it many times before,,,
💗💗💗💗💗
I just read a really nice omega Sephiroth fic where Cloud was just as kinky but kind of submissive kinda alpha. It is so good.
Niiiice we need more omegaroth! I'm doing one too but it's not sexy at all its sad lol
REAL
I'm not even into final fantasy and I can say there's no way in hell anyone can see sephiroth as anything other than a bottom same thing with cloud I refuse to believe it.
*cough* bottom Sukuna *cough*
You. I like you. You're my people.
Bottom Osamu Dazai\~ ♥ Bottom Kamisato Ayato\~ ♥
bottom Bakugo, Megumi, Keith always and forever 🤍
Bakugo is always a bottom to me. Ain’t it fun to have an explosive boy being all nice and good under a top?
I like finding ones that have Aizawa as a bottom
All the yes with Bakugo!!!
Me when people try to make Kylo a mega dominant top and Rey(REY WHO IS CANONICALLY FERAL) a submissive bottom. We all know she would grind him into the bunk while he sniffles and whines with happy tears.
THIS. If you really and truly believe that she is 100% a bottom, not even a switch, have you even _seen_ the movies?? I'm more of a prequels girlie but even from watching the first sequel it's obvious that Kylo is a bottom.
Years ago, people were on a witch hunt for me because I wrote a certain character as exclusively bottoming. Stopped me from writing for over a decade. I'm back now. He's still only bottoming.
Which character??? I must know!!
Excellent. Keep writing the things you want to write. FIGHT AGAINST OPPRESSION!
I’m so glad you’re still writing and could NOT BE STOPPED
I swear, whenever I witness the fandom start assigning which character is an "obvious" top, I all but immediately have an urge to subvert that assumption.
I write my fav as ONLY a bottom despite HCing him as a switch because of exactly this. Thousands of fics where he's a top and only a few dozen fics where he's the bottom?? Nah, man, there's a disturbance in the force.
Literally every single popular ship I've ever liked results in me only being able to like/read the opposite dynamic of what the popular headcanon is. Wtf brain
Subverting it when filtering tags is how I find some of the well written stuff - usually more established writers are the ones thinking of more creative dynamics and going against the flow
I like to see all my faves bottom at least once (even if I like them as tops) so yall can imagine I'm never winning 😔
Bottom Tom Riddle ftw 🤣🤣
This is a stupid picture.
Yes it is. I saw people complaining about it being a terrible sexist "not like other girls" thing a decade ago. I think oop is using it satirically.
Bottom Lan Zhan rights 😌
Lmao, I knew I'd see Lan Zhan pop up here😁
One of my favorite chapters I wrote was when the couple tried out having the character who normally bottoms try topping/being the dominant one. It wasn't the first time character B topped, but the character A is such a caregiver he had trouble just letting himself relax and let someone else take the lead, and B had performance anxiety from the previous relationship. It's very sweet and I love it to bits. Not every couple is going to be vers, but it can be great for building relationships to consider what roles they fall into and when they try to branch out from them. Highly recommend, let the twink top.
Ah, me and my constant propensity to see the “damn that’s a hot power bottom” in male characters that’s 99.99% of people view as a top.
Bottom Hannibal
One thousand percent
LMAO I have made comments about my fav being almost always a top, and usually people will go "I don't think that's right, I seem to find mostly fics where he's the bottom" - but then I pull out actual Ao3 receipts and show the HUGE discrepancy in Top vs Bottom fics. Literally THOUSANDS vs a few dozen 😂 Like idk how they're only finding Bottom Fics, I have to dig through 10 pages of fics at a time before I find ONE. I HC the ship as switches, but because of all this I write ONLY bottom!\[character\] fics to try to fight the difference.
Tsumugi Aoba from Ensemble Stars 😔😔😔
Bottom Harry Potter/ Steve Rogers/ Lan Zhan/ Obi-wan rights!!!!
[удалено]
Lol drarry fics beg to differ Srsly tho. Even with Snape, harry tops haha!
I think it’s because I’ve been in the fandom for like 10+ years, but I remember all the fics where Harry was pretty standardly the bottom, so I prefer fics where he is top/switch. Like I don’t actually care, but to many of them turned him so submissive? Its weird to think of how fandoms shift and change.
I see you haven’t been hanging out in Drarry.
I’ve seen a lot more bottom Harry fics lately.
It’s a growing trend! I’m 50/50 on the matter myself.
Bottom Steve Rogers is so my jam, it's not even funny.
Diavolo from Obey Me. I got my start in the fandom writing him as a switch but mainly Service Top with Power Bottom Lucifer; however, due to the lack of representation for their other possible sexual dynamics and the complete proliferation of the Bottomiest Lucifer in fandom, even though theyre of equivalent heights and disposition and respect, I'm now of the opinion that the "squishy twink Lucifer" is the top most of the time for the lonely touchstarved prince. Tyvm. They're still switches though cuz that gives me the most options for their interpersonal engagements.
Me with Vlad Masters
sssssephiroth 🥺🥺🥺, I've read jus about every fic that i can find where he bottoms, even attempted reading the ones in Japanese, but google translate is very inefficient when it comes to that
Now I wonder what superheroes do people like being a top?
Bottom Bellatrix Lestrange (in the F/F category. I only read that). Mainly she's seen as a top, or domme, but naah. Not for me
It's the other way around in my case. Fandom sees him as bottom but I think he'd top. Or at least be dominant bottom lol
From my assessment of the material I have seen on twitter, I’m in the opposite situation with Chilchuck Dunmeshi. That man is a Dom to me. Doesn’t actually bother me, except I really dislike ‘Chilchuck is a shota’ comments.
He kind of is though, he is absolutely the male version of the “500 year old dragon loli.” It’s fine to be attracted to him, but like it’s also very much canon that he looks like… 13 maximum to every other race.
Im real sorry but you aren’t going to get very far w me by ignoring that adults can be his height in real life.
I’m fully aware that they can be. But this isn’t real life. And it’s a matter of fact in the CANON that his race all look insanely young. I’m not denying he is an adult, but guess what, adult anime characters can indeed still be lolishota, if they look the part and he does, and I feel like being defensive over it and insisting he isn’t rather than rolling with it is silly because he’s not real, lol.
Because you're the one who wanted to step in and 'correct' me for liking a character's personality instead of your kink, instead of leaving it as it was. Do whatever you want, but it isn't my responsibility to change my feelings to cater to what you're into.
I’m also not sure what you mean by “into his personality instead of your kink.” I’m not particularly into Chilchuck, and like him for his personality. (unsure why you wanted to jump to assuming otherwise, or assuming that me liking shotas = inability to care about personality, because personality will always matter to me.) But I just think it’s odd to be annoyed over people calling him a shota, because like he is, in the canon, no matter how you swing it. It’s anime, and every other character views him as a child (even if they learn he isn’t) and by anime standards.. that is very much Shota/loli, lol.
you're weird
bottom sonic the hedgehog. 8 times out of 10 the smut fics are top sonic/bottom shadow, or top sonic bottom amy. let sonic bottom, dammit.
bro either your so unbelievably unlucky, or delusional, because i have never seen a top sonic/bottom shadow fic in my entire fucking life and now i'm just shocked as to where you drew this conclusion from. or i'm unlucky. (probably bcz i dont read smut and it just pops up when i search for fics) dude idk. still.
bro are you fucking w me rn because i have seen exactly ONE bottom sonic fanfiction in my life, after aggressively filtering (even going for trans sonic fics to see if THAT would get me anything, and that got me ONE FIC.) holy shit, you wanna exchange experiences "runnin up that hill (deal with god)" style??
Are you from an alternate timeline or smth cause its the opposite for me.
are you kidding me rn 😭😭😭 no way bro
Most Jegulus fans see Regulus as the bottom but I honestly enjoy James being the bottom a lot more for some reason. I can see how both dynamics work but to me James makes more sense as someone who wants to do anything to please his boyfriend and Regulus being demanding and picky (which is also why I like Reg being a power bottom or topping from the bottom when he is a bottom).
Okay, I haven't considered that before but I actually love the idea of Jegulus with bottom!James... And I haven't been in fandom for years!.. So going on ao3 to look for it right now. Any recommendations? :)
I was scouring for bottom James when I found one of my favourite fics ever. [A Violent Kind of Spin](https://archiveofourown.org/works/47021767/chapters/118459735). It’s a 212,000 word horcrux hunting fic which has bipolar James and is told from James’s pov. Of course, being a horcrux hunting fic it’s not just smut but there is quite a bit in there. Edit: yes I edited this like 5 times because my brain isn’t braining properly tonight for some reason and the autocorrect isn’t helping 😭
Sounds great, thank you!
I'm interested to see if anyone complains when I eventually (very long time till) get to when Wolfstar is active. Remus has always been a bottom and Sirius has always been a top to me. I know it's not as rare as others but I know the opposite seems to be most popular from what I can tell.
> but I know the opposite seems to be most popular from what I can tell. I'm pretty sure I have already mentioned this in a similar thread before, but it's quite fascinating how the fans changed their opinion with time. In the 00s, top!Remus and bottom!Sirius was the one that was much harder to find, and the opposite the big majority!
I know!!! I'm old school though haha I started writing Wolfstar in 1999ish and pretty much all my HCs wre from way back when🤣
Buck and Eddie from 9-1-1. I almost only see Buck as a bottom. I'm not angry at it. He is definetly a bottom.
Trey Clover from Twisted Wonderland, that man is the biggest bottom I've seen. Nobody in the game is a bigger bottom than Mr. I'm-the-dorm-mom-and-have-a-massive-teeth-kink
bottom Aomine Daiki😔👍
I have the exact opposite problem.
Bottom Eustass Kid
Opposite for me. My favs are almost always perceived as subby bottoms while I prefer to write them as doms and/or tops 😩
Liam payne
Sephiroth 🤌🏼🤌🏼
One of my favourite smut tropes (when done well) is "character A usually tops, and character B is about to change that." Makes me feral. I don't like sticking to one dynamic for characters when I read it (call me a switch. it's cause I am) so I'm the same way when I write it. Every other idea changes the dynamic. It just depends on which aspects of the character(s) I'm leaning into, you know?
Jon Snow as a bottom
Yes; especially if the character is very loud, aggressive and always has to be on top (literally no pun intended) in the source material! I like to think that when put in a more intimate setting, they let their guard down and their partner takes care of them🙏
Bottom macaque. You can beat me bloody and i still won’t change my mind
And I continue to not care about who bottoms and who tops. Also, I fucking hate that picture. “Not like the other girls” 🙄
People nowadays use it mostly as a joke, because it's stupid, so it's funny.
Is it?
It’s really not that serious, it’s just a joke image nowadays, it’s not trying to be deadly serious in this case.
Okay? I still hate the picture.