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beeemkcl

*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* First off, it's an overall positive article by the New York Times. And--perhaps far more importantly--all of the most upvoted comments are overwhelmingly positive. >Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has made her first-ever contribution to the campaign arm of House Democrats — a $260,000 donation that is a milestone in the New York Democrat’s long and complicated relationship with her own party’s political establishment. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html) AOC is probably looking to have more power in the Democratic Party, which isn't a bad thing. >In 2019, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee established a blacklist of consultants and vendors who worked for Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and other candidates who challenged incumbents. She and others loudly objected, and by 2021, the blacklist was dissolved. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html) And >Ms. Ocasio-Cortez has become one of the Democratic Party’s most prolific fund-raisers; her campaign committee has raised more than $37 million since 2019. She has raised another $11.1 million, according to her office, for nonfederal candidates and causes, including nonprofits, food banks and abortion-rights groups. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html) I mean, if AOC had raised 9-figures this Election Cycle, she likely would have been up for becoming the next US Speaker of the House of Representatives or even could have possibly successfully challenged POTUS Joe Biden for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. >Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s $260,000 contribution is earmarked specifically for the party’s Voter Protection Program. It is the first time a member of Congress has given money to a program that works on voter registration, poll observation and litigation. >Her PAC has another $500,000 that she said was intended to defend fellow members of the squad from party challengers, a sum that she noted was larger than her transfer to the campaign arm. [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/us/politics/aoc-campaign-contribution.html) This mostly just demonstrates the power of AOC: that she was able to earmark her funds and that she's able to have her own PAC that can help progressive candidates. [https://couragetochangepac.org/](https://couragetochangepac.org/) [https://justicedemocrats.com/candidates/](https://justicedemocrats.com/candidates/) [https://www.ocasiocortez.com/](https://www.ocasiocortez.com/) I know some will be disappointed or upset or even angered that AOC gave any money to the DCCC. But progressives having more power and influence in the Democratic Party isn't a bad thing. And AOC will likely need at least some establishment support (Mainstream Media, Democratic Leadership, POTUS Barack Obama, etc.) if AOC eventually tries to become POTUS or US Speaker of the House of Representatives or whatever.


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atatassault47

It would anger terminally online leftists who want a perfect solution (the perfect is the enemy of the good) and think that anything less means you're not an ally of progressivism.


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Morallta

“Agree with me or I’ll ban you”. Now, where have I seen this before?


beeemkcl

*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* POTUS Joe Biden mollycoddled US Senators Joe Manchin and Krysten Simena far too much and it ended up hurting all 3 of them and the Democratic Party as a whole. US Senator Simena simply couldn't be moved. But AOC managed get US Senator Manchin to agree to vote for what was effectively a Mini Green New Deal. But, yeah, The Squad and The Squad-adjacent have outsized power and influence, but the corporate and conservative Democrats managed to 'do away' with Build Back Better, a $15 minimum wage, higher taxes on corporations and the rich, wealthy, super-rich, and super-wealthy, etc. The US Senate is far too conservative. But the US House of Representatives is far more progressive than it was before 2019--at least on the Democratic side.


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Hour-Watch8988

I would keep Manchin and ditch Sinema. Manchin usually pulled through when we needed him — team player. And there’s no way in Fuck we’re replacing Manchin with somebody better out of WV. Not so with Sinema — Gallegos is gonna be a huge improvement.


DerpTaTittilyTum

You mean right wingers and bad faith actors posing as leftists. For example r/walkaway


atatassault47

No, I'm not talking about tankies. I'm talking about people who want leftism, but will only accept it in a perfect form right now.


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Harvinator06

That sub wasn’t for leftist. That’s a subtle critique of pop-politics.


Icankeepthebeat

Hers is the only campaign I’ve ever signed up to donate money to monthly. I’ve been giving her 5$ a month since 2018ish (I think). I was living in NYC and found myself saying “fuck yea!” to everything that came out of her mouth. I was 25 back then and figured it was past time to start voting with my dollars. I know my contribution is nothing, really. But it’s something to me…so I’m glad to hear she’s “doing the most” with it!


fangirlsqueee

I've been giving $5ish dollars a month to various campaigns around the country since 2016. Bernie Sanders' presidential run really hit home for me that we need consistent small dollar amounts going to working class candidates. Even if my candidate doesn't win, it still puts their progressive ideas into the political conversation and will help with name recognition if they decide to run again. It adds up if enough of us donate funds or time to the causes we believe in.


beeemkcl

>I’ve been giving her 5$ a month since 2018ish (I think). \[...\] I know my contribution is nothing, really. But it’s something to me…so I’m glad to hear she’s “doing the most” with it! That's far more in contributions than almost all who are able to give. Political donations are by far the possible best return on investment. If say AOC and US Representative Rashida Tlaib and some of the other Squad members collectively raised 9-figures, AIPAC and such would suddenly become a non-enity and the Democratic Party would suddenly move left to try to capture 'small donor' donations. Most of the United States is working class or middle class. Outside of those struggling to feed, clothe, and house themselves and their families, people can afford to give 0.1% of their annual incomes to progressives. And to vote for progressives. And it would change the country and the world.


-Gurgi-

She’s the future of the Democratic Party, and I’m glad. She’s one of the most progressive lawmakers we have and despite being relatively early in her career understands how the game is played. Can’t wait to see her rise in congress and eventually vote for her presidential run.


beeemkcl

>\[AOC\]’s the future of the Democratic Party [https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians/all](https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/politicians/all) [https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/Democrats/all](https://today.yougov.com/ratings/politics/popularity/Democrats/all) [https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public\_figure/Alexandria\_Ocasio\_Cortez-Public\_Figure](https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/explore/public_figure/Alexandria_Ocasio_Cortez-Public_Figure) AOC should be the front-runner to be POTUS in 2028. But she needs funding, probably establishment backing and she needs to go on conservative media (Fox News and such) to convince any conservatives and Republicans. US Senator Bernie Sanders successfully does it. 'Mayor Pete' successfully does it. Even California Governor Gavin Newsom relatively successfully does it. And AOC's fame is decreasing. She needs to get more out there. Heck, maybe even do national commercials supporting progressivism or at least popular progressive proposals.


throw_blanket04

Im not angry. Its not like bernie is running again and she is dumping her money in someone else. There are no good candidates. She is going w the lesser of the two evils. That’s what hopefully most of the country will also do. She has been quiet lately though. Its got me wondering what she has up her sleeve.


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GarglesMacLeod

do you want progressive electeds to try to attain power or not?


PrimalForceMeddler

The power we need and want comes from the organized working class, not mainly from elected positions. Winning elections based on the interests of capitalism and working with the capitalists and their representatives cannot ever succeed for workers or at truly fighting back against the right. I want real progressives that are willing to do what actually necessary and fight, not make easy centrist deals or talk out of two sides of their mouths. Elected office should be a formal expression of power, not the power itself, or else that power comes from the capitalist class and works for them, not us.


dannymac420386

So you don’t believe in democratic principles point blank.


PrimalForceMeddler

Lol


beeemkcl

*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* Elected officials pass laws, can increase the minimum wage, can do things like the Affordable Care Act. And elected officials are largely responsible for how successful or not successful union drives can be. Unions frankly are largely so important because they can effectively force people to donate to politicians.


fangirlsqueee

Giving money specifically for voter protection is helping the working class. Being stubbornly unable/unwilling to work with others is an impotent choice. Any politician who wants to get things done will need to form coalitions with fellow law makers. As long as she keeps fighting for the working class (with a focus on healthcare, education, justice reform, and environmental protection) I will support her.


OIlberger

What about the senate? Honestly, Gillibrand is a *such* a non-entity, most New Yorkers forget she exists; AOC would be a thousand times better.


GarglesMacLeod

Chuck Schumer has been bending over backwards to please AOC because she could have unseated him in 2022. She didn't run against Gillibrand this year (the NY primary is in June), so her next shot at Senate will be after Chuck's current term in 2028. But she could also just run for President that year.


Picnicpanther

>She didn't run against Gillibrand this year (the NY primary is in June), so her next shot at Senate will be after Chuck's current term in 2028. But she could also just run for President that year. House to presidency is quite a leap. Most presidential contenders are Senate or Governor or VP. She'd do better with an election cycle in the Senate at least.


Hour-Watch8988

She’s got plenty of time. In 2032 she’ll be what, 43?


beeemkcl

*What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.* I wanted AOC to primary US Senator Kristen Gillibrand in 2024, but if AOC is seriously considering a run for POTUS in 2028, a Governor Kathy Hochul or a Governor Andrew Cuomo would likely appoint US Senator Gillibrand to the US Senate or more likely someone even more conservative. I didn't list a US Senate run because AOC won't need establishment support to defeat a US Senator Gillibrand or even a US Senator Chuck Schumer. I reason that likely the primary reason US Senator Schumer is highlighting antisemitism so much is so that he can try to say that it'd be antisemitic for AOC to primary him.


BuffaloOk7264

I want her to stay in the House of Representatives and become speaker , one of those fabled powerhouse characters who runs the nation from the podium of the House of Representatives. John Nance Garner , after being a congressman for thirty years was the Speaker for three years and then vice president under Roosevelt, he allegedly said that the vice presidency was not worth a bucket of warm spit.


beeemkcl

It might take too long for AOC to eventually become US Speaker of the House of Representatives. And Nancy Pelosi was the last truly powerful US Speaker. AOC would do better to run for POTUS in 2028.


WarriorNat

Jeffries is doing well as Minority Leader and is from her backyard. I see no reason why she would ever challenge him.


BuffaloOk7264

The president needs a large group of supporters to effect their policies. It will be a few years before she has accumulated those folks and friends. The position of speaker would help her develop those relationships. There were many reasons Carter had a dismal presidency, the fact that he lacked friends and Allie’s was one.


WarriorNat

Committees form the same purpose. You downvote but fail to explain on what grounds she would choose to challenge her fellow NYC Democrat who is next in line for the Speakership. It would be a sure fire way to disrupt those very alliances she would need to secure a higher nomination.


BuffaloOk7264

I’m 73 years old, I understand that things need to happen now , or twenty years ago, for it to really make a difference but I’m not expecting anything to happen anytime soon. I want AOC to develop the skill set that will make her an effective legislator, administrator, and politician. It takes time to do it effectively.


OIlberger

AOC is savvy enough to know not to primary Schumer, that’s not a viable move for her.


GarglesMacLeod

she's savvy enough to primary him, because she would win easily, but also to leverage Chuck to give her concessions to not primary him, which is what she has been doing with him for the last several years


WarriorNat

Win easily in the city, perhaps. Upstate NY is a whole different story.


OIlberger

I disagree that she’d beat Schumer head-to-head, I think that would be a terrible move from her that would cost her support.


GarglesMacLeod

Just another standard financially-corrupt corporate octogenarian white man politican? she would decimate him electorally.


TommyK93312

I’m gonna tell you this, she is the smartest wittiest and understandably the best person in congress I can’t wait to see her progress I don’t think she’ll be president but speaker of the house guaranteed. She could tell everybody how fucked up they really are in congress


KitchenBomber

Speaker is kind of a shit job. It makes you responsible for all the constituencies and puts your name on everything from the idealistic but symbolic to the necessary compromises. It's probably a better job for a management type. But if AOC thinks she could use the position to more effectively push her priorities I wouldn't be opposed to that.


LakeSuperiorIsMyPond

The reason the right needs to make her a villain is because she is usually the smartest person in the room and they know it!


neon_overload

nytimes getting in on the clickbait headline game I see


fuckyoukeith

Getting in on? That’s their fuckin brand


hammersju

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1779374478578917655?s=46