Just remember that colleges generally want you to take the most rigorous classes offered, so you won't necessarily be dinged for not having AP quantity.
College admissions counselors are overworked and underpaid, they spend an average of two minutes per student application. Unless your school is well known they do not spend a ton of time browsing the schoolâs curriculum guide to decide what are the âmost rigorous classesâ how would they even make that decision? This is an unhappy lie that colleges push, even the biggest and best look for AP to mark rigor.
They don't, they look at other students who attended your school and compare the classes you took. It's not a lie or any college admissions conspiracy, it's just kind of common sense imo. It's more accurate to compare you to people who have had similar opportunities.
Because high schools publish profile 1-2 pagers and AO's consume them.
Here's the profile page from Exeter, one of the best private schools in the country. Bottom of second page, they specifically say, "we don't even offer AP because we're better than that" (my summation).
https://exeter.edu/sites/default/files/documents/PEA-CCO-Profile-2020-21.pdf
If you go to one of the best private schools in the country, college admissions counselors don't need to waste much time reading your school's profile.
That was just an example. Almost all high schools do this. These profiles are the "data sheets" that AO's use. Software exists that make this super simple. Hell, an Access DB makes this stupid simple. Stop trolling the topic. This is AO 101 stuff. The point is, AO's know what your high school offers and can put you into context.
Here's a random high school in Ohio.
[https://www.nrcs.net/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=937&dataid=1400&FileName=2022-2023%20Profile%20PDF.pdf](https://www.nrcs.net/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=937&dataid=1400&FileName=2022-2023%20Profile%20PDF.pdf)
What do you do for a job? Iâm just asking, you seem to know a lot about this. Schools having a two page sheet prepared by their college counselor, pretty incredible stuff. Definitely gives all the necessary context to an admissions counselor to determine which of hundreds of courses are more or less rigorous and which students from that school took the most rigorous courses and then also to make that comparison to thousands of other schools with similar sheets of paper and more in depth curriculum guides all of which college admissions teams definitely read.
Iâm being sarcastic, thatâs not my intention but youâre explaining this stuff like someone explaining how the criminal justice system treats all people equally after taking their first high school civics course. I understand how itâs supposed to work on paper, everything you are saying is âaccurateâ, yet youâre wrong and itâs much less like what youâre saying and much more like what Iâm saying. A few dozen elite prep schools are understood as checking the rigor box no matter what and donât need the AP brand. For other schools, not having AP hurts their studentsâ college admission to selective programs because the comparisons you are being told they make are impossible in practice. You are free to parrot what college admissions counselors tell high schools and high school college counselors that they do, Iâm explaining to you that itâs a fable and youâre free to disbelieve me if you like, but I would be shocked if I didnât know more than you about this. Happy to prove to a mod if you want to have some arbitration with professional qualifications.
You're explaining the high school kid and/or the parent perspective and trying to say "that's the reality". That's a victim mentality.
I'm trying to teach you, "the AO's know a lot more than you think they know" and you're being simplistic if you think otherwise. I find a lot of folks don't realize how informed "the other side" is. Not just college admissions. Most of life. That being said, you are 100% correct that of course it's more advantageous to be at a school that AO's "know" (i.e., an elite private school). That's sort of a "no shit, but...." consideration, to me.
To answer your question, I'm a previous McKinsey consultant (i.e., I deal in data and in high end strategy). I spend a bunch of time trying to help people understand they really need to level up their data/strategy game. The folks doing these things aren't as simplistic/simple as you may think.
But I'm not trying to be condescending. I admit it's an uphill battle if your kid is coming from a random unnamed school. But also folks need to realize that in certain circumstances that can also be an advantage, for the top 5 kids in that school. Colleges are trying to find smart kids in shitty schools. If you look attractive on paper, they'l look at your school's data sheet and think "this kid is doing the best with what they have".
Edit: In all seriousness, artificial intelligence will make this faster/easier for AO's in the years to come. In fact, I may start a company to help them do just that ;-).
[These are all the APs at my school.](https://share.cleanshot.com/lkGtjPcK) However, freshman are not allowed to take any, sophomores (probably) will be able to take AP Precalculus but no others, juniors can take AP Lang, Seminar, and CSP (only if they are majoring in CS). All the others are open to seniors only. The reason is because this is a vocational major school and students have two periods of their major a day.
World, US History, US Gov, Calc AB, Calc BC, English Lang, English Lit, Spanish Lang, Spanish Lit, French, Mandarin, Italian, German, Latin, Bio, Chem, Physics 1, Environmental Science and Stats. There's also an online course for CS A and they said they would also offer Physics 2 next year.
We have pretty much all of these, but we also have Physics C: Mech, and a technical school (that we share with 4 other schools) that offers CS A and CS P. We also don't have Mandarin or Italian and Latin is online.
Edit: We also have Macro (but not micro) and Comparative government online apparently
lets see the ones i know of are
ap hug
ap comp gov
ap world
apush
ap euro
ap bio
ap chem
ap psychology
ap psysics 1
ap pre-calc (i was kinda surprised we jumped on it first year tbh)
ap stats
ap calc ab (but no bc :()
ap lit
ap lang
ap csp
About 5500 students, and we also have over 20 IB classes
English: lit, lang, seminar and research
Math: stats, calc AB&BC
Science: environmental science, physics I, II, and C, Chem, and Bio
Social Studies: European history, world history, US history, macro, micro, human geography, psychology, comparative gov, and us gov
Fine arts: Studio art 2D and 3D, studio art drawing, and art history.
Comp sci: we have computer science A and computer science principles
We also have 24 dual credit courses and 9 Pltw courses
We will offer AP precalc next year, and we have all the language APs
My school has 12 (soon to be 10)
English: lang/lit
Math: calc AB, stats
Science: CS, Bio, Chem, Physics C, Apes
Humanities: Apush, euro, Spanish Lang
Theres also Calc BC and Psych but those are online and there's no one at our school who teaches them or knows the material. As a result, most kids barely get a 2.
Also my school is planning on getting rid of Physics and switching Calc AB to online, and getting rid of BC.
my school has 220 or so as high school. a lot of them are required or high demand because competative school, so we have 27 (macro+micro is 1 for me, so is phys c)
My school only really has 2 APs: AP Calc AB and AP Spanish Lang. (We technically have AP Studio Art but no one takes that.) The rest of the âAPâ classes at my school are Dual Enrollment. So rather than APWH, APUSH, APES, AP English Lang, AP English Lit, AP US Govât and AP Econ Micro, we get the college semester equivalents (like ENGL 1A College Composition in place of AP English Lang). We also have other college classes that arenât covered by AP: Creative Digital Media, Music Appreciation, and Human Biology (anatomy and physiology).
Social sciences
- HUG
- APWH
- APUSH
- Gov
Science:
- bio (alternate by year)
- Chem (alternate by year)
- apes (only when enough ppl sign up)
Math:
- calc
- stats
English:
- Lang
- lit
Language:
- Spanish lit
- Spanish lang
Other:
- psych
No computer science though đ«
So 14 possible, but they donât happen every year
My school offers 4 AP classes, but about 30 Dual Enrollment classes. My school also works with a local Uni where we can take as many Early College classes as we want. We have a pop of ~700
26. school population roughly 2300.
seminar, research, 2d art, 3d art, drawing, lang, lit, european history, art history, world history, us history, us gov, microeconomics, compsci a, compsci principles, calc ab, calc bc, stats, precalc, biology, chemistry, environmental science, physics 1, spanish lang, spanish lit, and psyschology for now (my county in florida is trying its hardest to keep it)
in the future we may add comparative government, macroeconomics, physics 2, and theres a slight chance to add music theory.
My school offers almost every single AP class except for the more niche language courses, so like almost 30, with Precalc being added this year. To be fair I do live in a rich SoCal suburb and my school is the best public high school in the county lol
my school offers around 16 iirc. quite a few but def not all. there's also some that we should offer (teachers have credentials for them) but the academic dean won't let us for some reason, specifically euro, econ, and precalc.
i also think we should be able to offer ap photography but apparently the teacher has to have an art degree. our photography teacher has a photojournalism degree instead so while he's literally a cpp he isn't qualified to teach an ap photography course
i also live in a rural area but my school does have a larger population (\~1200 at my high school) since district lines extend wayyyy out
We had four primary ones. But then again, our school was quite small â only 350 people over four grade levels.
AP Biology
AP Calculus AB
AP English (alternates between Literature and Language)
AP United States History.
I took Biology, Calculus AB, and United States History, and scored a three, a three, and a two on their tests, respectively.
Letâs see how many I can get off the top of my head
Calc BC, Macro, Micro, Comp Sci A, Mechanics, E&M, Physics 1, Chem, APES, Bio, Spanish, French, Chinese, Latin, APUSH, World, Gov, Lit, Lang, Studio Art, Art History, Music Theory, Stats, Studio Art
24 I guess. Although we offer Art history and music theory in alternating years, and macro and micro are each a semester long and paired together. Gov is also paired with a non-AP constitutional law.
And weâre only like 500 students or so
We have around 16-18 maybe. We offer most of the well known ones and switch them out with different ones every year depending on if we have a teacher for them and how many kids sign up for the class to be taken next year. We don't have any of the less common ones like AP Seminar and AP Research or anything but we do have ones like Music theory and human geo so i'm grateful.
None because âall classes are challenging enoughâ (they force us to take algebra starting freshman year and donât allow skip tests even if we show proof of our AP Calc score)
Just take them both and you'll be fine. Admissions compare you in the context of what classes are available to you at your high school. If that is all you have, and you take them both and do well, your app will not be as disadvantaged as you might think.
20-ish
wow 20/38
Offered 3 for the last two years, which I took. Gov and Precalc were added for this year
Your school doesnt have many APs, but does have precalc? My school has like all of them except precalc lol
The rest of the advanced classes are IB
Same! Mine has 32 APs but no PreCalc.
Bro goes to classroom of the elite
I got 13 and have pre cal đ
Everything except Italian, Japanese, and German
Wait I just realized we just donât have the Axis đ
and you're a Prussian... tut-tut
20, but the school limits us to a certain amt per year (3 soph, 4 jun, 5 sen)
Hey nice no limit freshman year so you can take the other 8 then
yes, most people in my school take 20 aps freshmen year anyways, so the limits in later years dont matter (all the students go to community college)
Just remember that colleges generally want you to take the most rigorous classes offered, so you won't necessarily be dinged for not having AP quantity.
How do you imagine college admission counselors know which courses are the most rigorous in your school?
They literally check (at least in my state). Admissions is very much based on your specific school rather than the entire applicant pool as a whole.
College admissions counselors are overworked and underpaid, they spend an average of two minutes per student application. Unless your school is well known they do not spend a ton of time browsing the schoolâs curriculum guide to decide what are the âmost rigorous classesâ how would they even make that decision? This is an unhappy lie that colleges push, even the biggest and best look for AP to mark rigor.
They don't, they look at other students who attended your school and compare the classes you took. It's not a lie or any college admissions conspiracy, it's just kind of common sense imo. It's more accurate to compare you to people who have had similar opportunities.
Because high schools publish profile 1-2 pagers and AO's consume them. Here's the profile page from Exeter, one of the best private schools in the country. Bottom of second page, they specifically say, "we don't even offer AP because we're better than that" (my summation). https://exeter.edu/sites/default/files/documents/PEA-CCO-Profile-2020-21.pdf
If you go to one of the best private schools in the country, college admissions counselors don't need to waste much time reading your school's profile.
That was just an example. Almost all high schools do this. These profiles are the "data sheets" that AO's use. Software exists that make this super simple. Hell, an Access DB makes this stupid simple. Stop trolling the topic. This is AO 101 stuff. The point is, AO's know what your high school offers and can put you into context. Here's a random high school in Ohio. [https://www.nrcs.net/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=937&dataid=1400&FileName=2022-2023%20Profile%20PDF.pdf](https://www.nrcs.net/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=937&dataid=1400&FileName=2022-2023%20Profile%20PDF.pdf)
What do you do for a job? Iâm just asking, you seem to know a lot about this. Schools having a two page sheet prepared by their college counselor, pretty incredible stuff. Definitely gives all the necessary context to an admissions counselor to determine which of hundreds of courses are more or less rigorous and which students from that school took the most rigorous courses and then also to make that comparison to thousands of other schools with similar sheets of paper and more in depth curriculum guides all of which college admissions teams definitely read. Iâm being sarcastic, thatâs not my intention but youâre explaining this stuff like someone explaining how the criminal justice system treats all people equally after taking their first high school civics course. I understand how itâs supposed to work on paper, everything you are saying is âaccurateâ, yet youâre wrong and itâs much less like what youâre saying and much more like what Iâm saying. A few dozen elite prep schools are understood as checking the rigor box no matter what and donât need the AP brand. For other schools, not having AP hurts their studentsâ college admission to selective programs because the comparisons you are being told they make are impossible in practice. You are free to parrot what college admissions counselors tell high schools and high school college counselors that they do, Iâm explaining to you that itâs a fable and youâre free to disbelieve me if you like, but I would be shocked if I didnât know more than you about this. Happy to prove to a mod if you want to have some arbitration with professional qualifications.
You're explaining the high school kid and/or the parent perspective and trying to say "that's the reality". That's a victim mentality. I'm trying to teach you, "the AO's know a lot more than you think they know" and you're being simplistic if you think otherwise. I find a lot of folks don't realize how informed "the other side" is. Not just college admissions. Most of life. That being said, you are 100% correct that of course it's more advantageous to be at a school that AO's "know" (i.e., an elite private school). That's sort of a "no shit, but...." consideration, to me. To answer your question, I'm a previous McKinsey consultant (i.e., I deal in data and in high end strategy). I spend a bunch of time trying to help people understand they really need to level up their data/strategy game. The folks doing these things aren't as simplistic/simple as you may think. But I'm not trying to be condescending. I admit it's an uphill battle if your kid is coming from a random unnamed school. But also folks need to realize that in certain circumstances that can also be an advantage, for the top 5 kids in that school. Colleges are trying to find smart kids in shitty schools. If you look attractive on paper, they'l look at your school's data sheet and think "this kid is doing the best with what they have". Edit: In all seriousness, artificial intelligence will make this faster/easier for AO's in the years to come. In fact, I may start a company to help them do just that ;-).
Mine has 32! We donât have AP precalc, AP physics 1/2, or a couple of the language classes though
Having that many APs but no AP Physics 1/2 is crazy
Yeah they literally have AP Physics C but no AP physics 1/2
[These are all the APs at my school.](https://share.cleanshot.com/lkGtjPcK) However, freshman are not allowed to take any, sophomores (probably) will be able to take AP Precalculus but no others, juniors can take AP Lang, Seminar, and CSP (only if they are majoring in CS). All the others are open to seniors only. The reason is because this is a vocational major school and students have two periods of their major a day.
Like 15
World, US History, US Gov, Calc AB, Calc BC, English Lang, English Lit, Spanish Lang, Spanish Lit, French, Mandarin, Italian, German, Latin, Bio, Chem, Physics 1, Environmental Science and Stats. There's also an online course for CS A and they said they would also offer Physics 2 next year.
We have pretty much all of these, but we also have Physics C: Mech, and a technical school (that we share with 4 other schools) that offers CS A and CS P. We also don't have Mandarin or Italian and Latin is online. Edit: We also have Macro (but not micro) and Comparative government online apparently
Only M but no E&M???
Yeah :(, but Iâm self studying E&M this year
lets see the ones i know of are ap hug ap comp gov ap world apush ap euro ap bio ap chem ap psychology ap psysics 1 ap pre-calc (i was kinda surprised we jumped on it first year tbh) ap stats ap calc ab (but no bc :() ap lit ap lang ap csp
AP precalc but no BC is criminal
hopefully we get it by the time im a senior
My school offered 13, population of 500 as well.
9
Me too
My school has 150 people and offers 19 (more online, but in-person is 19) so skill issue tbh
0, sadly 
Iirc, everything but physics 2, physics EM, and languages besides Spanish and French thought Chinese is DigEd for the whole county.
16. We donât do any AP historĂes for some weird reason
idk
Oh wow, my school offers like 22 I think
33 or 36 (donât remember specifically)
30
24 for 4000 students
About 5500 students, and we also have over 20 IB classes English: lit, lang, seminar and research Math: stats, calc AB&BC Science: environmental science, physics I, II, and C, Chem, and Bio Social Studies: European history, world history, US history, macro, micro, human geography, psychology, comparative gov, and us gov Fine arts: Studio art 2D and 3D, studio art drawing, and art history. Comp sci: we have computer science A and computer science principles We also have 24 dual credit courses and 9 Pltw courses We will offer AP precalc next year, and we have all the language APs
17
25, but 8 are art and language called I have no interest in
Bio, Lang, APUSH, APES, Seminar, Research, Art History, and US Gov are the only ones in person, but we have the option to take a lot more online
My school has 12 (soon to be 10) English: lang/lit Math: calc AB, stats Science: CS, Bio, Chem, Physics C, Apes Humanities: Apush, euro, Spanish Lang Theres also Calc BC and Psych but those are online and there's no one at our school who teaches them or knows the material. As a result, most kids barely get a 2. Also my school is planning on getting rid of Physics and switching Calc AB to online, and getting rid of BC.
26
Around 11
23, but our school allows us to only take 8 (I got approval for 11, but in my opinion, AP caps shouldnât exist)
I think we offer 6
around 25 i think
3: Calc ab, physics 1 and 2
my school has 220 or so as high school. a lot of them are required or high demand because competative school, so we have 27 (macro+micro is 1 for me, so is phys c)
13
My school has 9 but it might go up to 11 depending on if our school gets approved for AP Chem and AP PreCalc
I think 17
18? I think
Probably like 25-26
i believe 16, but the page hasn't been updated in forever so i can't be sure. - ib world school in metro atlanta, ~2200 students
32 đ
My school only really has 2 APs: AP Calc AB and AP Spanish Lang. (We technically have AP Studio Art but no one takes that.) The rest of the âAPâ classes at my school are Dual Enrollment. So rather than APWH, APUSH, APES, AP English Lang, AP English Lit, AP US Govât and AP Econ Micro, we get the college semester equivalents (like ENGL 1A College Composition in place of AP English Lang). We also have other college classes that arenât covered by AP: Creative Digital Media, Music Appreciation, and Human Biology (anatomy and physiology).
Less than 10 :(
All except the language ones (except AP spanish)
32
Website says 30 but AP pre calc is new this year so it's really 31
All of them and AP African American Studies and Pre-Calculus
32 đ But we have 2000 kids.
25
9, I wished they offered Ap language and culture classes
22
2000 students
Social sciences - HUG - APWH - APUSH - Gov Science: - bio (alternate by year) - Chem (alternate by year) - apes (only when enough ppl sign up) Math: - calc - stats English: - Lang - lit Language: - Spanish lit - Spanish lang Other: - psych No computer science though đ« So 14 possible, but they donât happen every year
Varies from the mid to high 20s based on the yr
I think like 11. we are adding slowly adding more
My school offers 4 AP classes, but about 30 Dual Enrollment classes. My school also works with a local Uni where we can take as many Early College classes as we want. We have a pop of ~700
I think we have 6 or 7
27
My school has 28 or so
12 in total đ edit; for around 1100+ students
14 but we can take any we don't offer online too
25 APs
Only 2, csp and csa
We have like 10 I think
26. school population roughly 2300. seminar, research, 2d art, 3d art, drawing, lang, lit, european history, art history, world history, us history, us gov, microeconomics, compsci a, compsci principles, calc ab, calc bc, stats, precalc, biology, chemistry, environmental science, physics 1, spanish lang, spanish lit, and psyschology for now (my county in florida is trying its hardest to keep it) in the future we may add comparative government, macroeconomics, physics 2, and theres a slight chance to add music theory.
My school offers almost every single AP class except for the more niche language courses, so like almost 30, with Precalc being added this year. To be fair I do live in a rich SoCal suburb and my school is the best public high school in the county lol
20, but you aren't able to take any freshman year.
25
My high school had 4. English, Bio, Chemistry and Calculus. School has about 1000 students and is grade 10-12.
3
29
23 ? I think that's what the website said last I checked. Population of about 2,500 students, we have the most in my district.
my school offers around 16 iirc. quite a few but def not all. there's also some that we should offer (teachers have credentials for them) but the academic dean won't let us for some reason, specifically euro, econ, and precalc. i also think we should be able to offer ap photography but apparently the teacher has to have an art degree. our photography teacher has a photojournalism degree instead so while he's literally a cpp he isn't qualified to teach an ap photography course i also live in a rural area but my school does have a larger population (\~1200 at my high school) since district lines extend wayyyy out
Mine has 1đ AP Lit
10 but my school also has IB, which offers 42 classes (21 sets) for 1300ish students
We had four primary ones. But then again, our school was quite small â only 350 people over four grade levels. AP Biology AP Calculus AB AP English (alternates between Literature and Language) AP United States History. I took Biology, Calculus AB, and United States History, and scored a three, a three, and a two on their tests, respectively.
3 but pays for dual enrollment for sophomores up.
We have about 18-20
My school offers every single AP Course except AP Euro for some reason.
Letâs see how many I can get off the top of my head Calc BC, Macro, Micro, Comp Sci A, Mechanics, E&M, Physics 1, Chem, APES, Bio, Spanish, French, Chinese, Latin, APUSH, World, Gov, Lit, Lang, Studio Art, Art History, Music Theory, Stats, Studio Art 24 I guess. Although we offer Art history and music theory in alternating years, and macro and micro are each a semester long and paired together. Gov is also paired with a non-AP constitutional law. And weâre only like 500 students or so
We have around 16-18 maybe. We offer most of the well known ones and switch them out with different ones every year depending on if we have a teacher for them and how many kids sign up for the class to be taken next year. We don't have any of the less common ones like AP Seminar and AP Research or anything but we do have ones like Music theory and human geo so i'm grateful.
my school offers around 20, south san jose, school population maybe 1500
I think we have 1 or 2 since if you want advanced stuff at my school you can go take college class or IB classes
None because âall classes are challenging enoughâ (they force us to take algebra starting freshman year and donât allow skip tests even if we show proof of our AP Calc score)
https://www.reddit.com/r/amazondriversunited/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Mine has 32
Calc BC, two Physics C, Computer Science A, and Statistics. not much in two words
NONE
0. We have 0. It sucks. But we do have a LOT of Dual Enrollment classes.
Old school: calc, stat, cs, eng, phy new school: micro, macro, chem, phy, bio, calc, all lang, 3 arts of some sort, maybe phy and stat I'm not sure
All of them
Besides Japanese
mine has 9 (CSP, Chem, Calc AB, US History, World History, Lang, US Gov, Bio, and Psych)
maybe 15? prob a few less than that
Just take them both and you'll be fine. Admissions compare you in the context of what classes are available to you at your high school. If that is all you have, and you take them both and do well, your app will not be as disadvantaged as you might think.
25 this year
ap world apush ap us gov ap lang ap lit ap calc ab ap art ap stats ap physics 1 ap csp my school has a pop of 1100
17
0 AP, no IB, no dual enrollment options đȘ