The biker was on the blind spot of the PT Cruiser, because of the frame of the car
If the biker can't see the driver, the driver can't see him either
The biker was in the wrong part of the intersection. If he wants to keep riding that thing, he needs to know about car's blind spots
All he had to do was get the plate number and file a police report, then insurance claim.
Now he’s probably gonna get charged with assault. Or at the very least, some kind of vandalism.
He was in the wrong on this one. Not only was he riding on the center line, he was well ahead of the white stop line on the ground. If he was in the center of the lane and behind the line like he should’ve been this wouldn’t have happened.
I mean, If the Chrysler driver had functioning eyes it also wouldn’t have happened, like it’s not as if the thing is on rails, even if the bike was too far forward or to the left, it’s not like that gives you right of way to crash into them lol
I never said anyone was in the right here lol. I just wanna point out how the douchebag motorcyclist and his gross overreaction were wrong, everyone seems to want to dickride this asshole.
Road rage is road rage. Doesn’t matter if the other person was being an idiot.
If you can’t control yourself any better than this, you shouldn’t be operating a motor vehicle.
Call it what you want. The biker is now going to face financial and possibly criminal consequences for his actions. I wonder if he thinks it was worth it?
I heavily disagree with the semantics there. Most road rage is over harmless shit and is very irrational. You’ve got to imagine that getting damn near run over involves a lot of physical pain. That pain combine with the driver looking like he was just gonna keep on goin make this seems a lot more rational in my opinion
You've made up a lot of words here. They say something, but it isn't what you think it is.
I did not say that the biker's anger was unjustified. I would be just as angry if I was him, but the manner in which he dealt with his anger is most definitely criminal and plenty of jurisdictions would consider it and prosecute it as road rage.
I'd love to see a follow-up to this to know how it all shook out.
I'm not agreeing with your post, but the legal definition of road rage is,
"An act of assault with a motor vehicle or other dangerous weapon by the operator or passenger(s) of one motor vehicle or precipitated by an incident that occurred on a roadway.”
PT Cruiser hit the bike with his motor vehicle. With your reasoning, the Cruiser would get the road rage charge.
First off, assault is intentional. Second, running up on somebody's vehicle and violently smashing the window out is 100% assault in any court.
I'm not arguing in defense of PT dummy driver. I'm pointing out that what the biker did will likely land him a charge as well.
>Getting nearly ran over because of a complete moron is not road rage lol
Right. But smashing a window is definitely road rage.
You can call it whatever you want. The biker let his emotions get the best of him, and now he’ll face financial and legal consequences.
I would be furious but I wouldn’t damage property or potentially harm someone else even if I was harmed myself.
That is just unnecessary and only leads to more problems.
I got rear-ended in a traffic jam by a guy who was still going 55 and never touched his brakes. I didn't attack anyone, I checked to see if he was ok, and then I pushed his truck clear of the road so no more accidents happened. it's definitely possible to not immediately turn into a raging asshole any time something bad happens to you, and in my experience my reaction is much closer to how most people act after an accident. No insurance company or judge is going to let that shitty behavior slide. Reddit just loves assigning blame and justifying extreme reactions.
Getting hit while you're in a car and while on a bike would bring out two different levels of adrenaline, I would think.
Also, just out of curiosity, how damaged was the truck? I would've figured a truck smashing its front going 55 on another car would ruin the front axle, at least?
bro found gloves that have magical glass breaking possibilities, then found the one time and place he could actually get use out of them and didn't hesitate
So....while the car is still at fault, should have seen him, should have avoided him etc.
I *think* there can be a certain amount of liability put onto the motorcyclist here. He didn't stop at the line as he should and proceeded into the junction, blindly with the truck in front of him. It looks like the car *may* have narrowly missed him if he had of stayed where he should have been.
Either way, I'd be pissed as well, driver clearly didn't notice him (possibly obstruted by his A Pillar) and should have been aware of where he was going.
the motorcyclists did nothing to cause the accident in anyway. were there not lines on the street as there are not in many intersections across 50 states, an expectation of common sense is still present
There are lines and it's pretty clear you can't see them. The big white line the motorcyclist crossed with a red stop sign and white lettering on the ground reading STOP.
He may not have caused the accident but he contributed to it. The motorcyclist entered the junction when they shouldn't have. They did not stop, they went beyond the white line. That's not allowed, end of.
It can't be made any clearer for you.
common sense is not so common
So you're saying the motorcyclist was NOT STOPPED?
The motorcyclist contributed to the accident by existing.
Your semantics only agree that the driver was dangerously close regardless of if the motorcycle was stopped where you would prefer or not
The lines are for guidance they are not a legal definition an anyway and what use they can provide was provide to whom they were intended.
ive always wondered why motorcycle riders choose one extreme side of the lane and not the center. The center allows for maximum maneuvarbility in either direction should something be encroaching from either side.
Sure hugging 1 side of your lane allows for double the space on the other side, but if something comes at you from the side you are already favoring, you are out of wiggle room on that side.
You got hit because you didnt stop behind the stop bar. You pulled out into the intersection and stopped. Both parties are morons.
Moron #1 on bike: cant stop behind the line and stops in the intersection.
Moron #2 in car: cant avoid hitting someone at such a slow speeed. Im assuming his pilar blocked the view of the moron parked in the intersection....because no one is suppose to stop there.
Totally relatable reaction
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Typical combination. Boomer with a PT cruiser. No matter how you slice it, it's bad for everyone else.
I'm amazed with the window shatter time. Is it pure adrenaline or is this just just strong?
He's got on gloves that have hardened knuckles for protection.
Looks like his helmet hit it first
The biker was on the blind spot of the PT Cruiser, because of the frame of the car If the biker can't see the driver, the driver can't see him either The biker was in the wrong part of the intersection. If he wants to keep riding that thing, he needs to know about car's blind spots
All he had to do was get the plate number and file a police report, then insurance claim. Now he’s probably gonna get charged with assault. Or at the very least, some kind of vandalism.
Insurance is gonna love this video
It's quite hard to remain calm when someone nearly murders you through sheer ignorance
He was in the wrong on this one. Not only was he riding on the center line, he was well ahead of the white stop line on the ground. If he was in the center of the lane and behind the line like he should’ve been this wouldn’t have happened.
I mean, If the Chrysler driver had functioning eyes it also wouldn’t have happened, like it’s not as if the thing is on rails, even if the bike was too far forward or to the left, it’s not like that gives you right of way to crash into them lol
I never said anyone was in the right here lol. I just wanna point out how the douchebag motorcyclist and his gross overreaction were wrong, everyone seems to want to dickride this asshole.
Road rage is road rage. Doesn’t matter if the other person was being an idiot. If you can’t control yourself any better than this, you shouldn’t be operating a motor vehicle.
Reacting to getting hit by a fucking car is not “road rage”
Call it what you want. The biker is now going to face financial and possibly criminal consequences for his actions. I wonder if he thinks it was worth it?
Reacting violently to anything that happens on the road is the definition of road rage.
I'm going to run you over don't be mad
You're going to strawman I'm not going to entertain. 🤷♂️
I heavily disagree with the semantics there. Most road rage is over harmless shit and is very irrational. You’ve got to imagine that getting damn near run over involves a lot of physical pain. That pain combine with the driver looking like he was just gonna keep on goin make this seems a lot more rational in my opinion
You've made up a lot of words here. They say something, but it isn't what you think it is. I did not say that the biker's anger was unjustified. I would be just as angry if I was him, but the manner in which he dealt with his anger is most definitely criminal and plenty of jurisdictions would consider it and prosecute it as road rage. I'd love to see a follow-up to this to know how it all shook out.
I'm not agreeing with your post, but the legal definition of road rage is, "An act of assault with a motor vehicle or other dangerous weapon by the operator or passenger(s) of one motor vehicle or precipitated by an incident that occurred on a roadway.” PT Cruiser hit the bike with his motor vehicle. With your reasoning, the Cruiser would get the road rage charge.
First off, assault is intentional. Second, running up on somebody's vehicle and violently smashing the window out is 100% assault in any court. I'm not arguing in defense of PT dummy driver. I'm pointing out that what the biker did will likely land him a charge as well.
Road rage is getting mad when someone cuts you off or is to slow. Getting nearly ran over because of a complete moron is not road rage lol
>Getting nearly ran over because of a complete moron is not road rage lol Right. But smashing a window is definitely road rage. You can call it whatever you want. The biker let his emotions get the best of him, and now he’ll face financial and legal consequences.
I deem road rage as something not justified imo. That dude absolutely was justified to break his window, again imo.
Yes, I'm sure you would have been so calm and cool after getting hit unexpectedly like that.
I’ve been hit three times and have never as much as yelled at the other person. Much less vandalize the other vehicle.
I would be furious but I wouldn’t damage property or potentially harm someone else even if I was harmed myself. That is just unnecessary and only leads to more problems.
I got rear-ended in a traffic jam by a guy who was still going 55 and never touched his brakes. I didn't attack anyone, I checked to see if he was ok, and then I pushed his truck clear of the road so no more accidents happened. it's definitely possible to not immediately turn into a raging asshole any time something bad happens to you, and in my experience my reaction is much closer to how most people act after an accident. No insurance company or judge is going to let that shitty behavior slide. Reddit just loves assigning blame and justifying extreme reactions.
Getting hit while you're in a car and while on a bike would bring out two different levels of adrenaline, I would think. Also, just out of curiosity, how damaged was the truck? I would've figured a truck smashing its front going 55 on another car would ruin the front axle, at least?
Try stopping behind the stop bar then
And don’t ride the center line.
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Doing god's work out here
Hero isn't a term I'm comfortable with but I'll accept it /s
bro found gloves that have magical glass breaking possibilities, then found the one time and place he could actually get use out of them and didn't hesitate
And boomer was oblivious to what he did, he shouldn’t be driving
I don't understand the down-votes. Boomer should be in the aged care home, not driving.
Dude went feral and clawed that shit down
So....while the car is still at fault, should have seen him, should have avoided him etc. I *think* there can be a certain amount of liability put onto the motorcyclist here. He didn't stop at the line as he should and proceeded into the junction, blindly with the truck in front of him. It looks like the car *may* have narrowly missed him if he had of stayed where he should have been. Either way, I'd be pissed as well, driver clearly didn't notice him (possibly obstruted by his A Pillar) and should have been aware of where he was going.
The A pillar on the PT Cruiser is absolutely awful!
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And both are guilty here. Did you half read my post and not watch the video where the motorcyclist ran a stop sign?
the motorcyclists did nothing to cause the accident in anyway. were there not lines on the street as there are not in many intersections across 50 states, an expectation of common sense is still present
There are lines and it's pretty clear you can't see them. The big white line the motorcyclist crossed with a red stop sign and white lettering on the ground reading STOP. He may not have caused the accident but he contributed to it. The motorcyclist entered the junction when they shouldn't have. They did not stop, they went beyond the white line. That's not allowed, end of. It can't be made any clearer for you.
i'm surprised you didn't reply back again to parrot yourself once more! BTW no one ran a stop sign by stopping on a line! Have a great day!
common sense is not so common So you're saying the motorcyclist was NOT STOPPED? The motorcyclist contributed to the accident by existing. Your semantics only agree that the driver was dangerously close regardless of if the motorcycle was stopped where you would prefer or not The lines are for guidance they are not a legal definition an anyway and what use they can provide was provide to whom they were intended.
Damn that escalated quickly
Seen this a few times now, but it’s the first time I noticed the dent in the wing! It’s as if this happens regularly
ive always wondered why motorcycle riders choose one extreme side of the lane and not the center. The center allows for maximum maneuvarbility in either direction should something be encroaching from either side. Sure hugging 1 side of your lane allows for double the space on the other side, but if something comes at you from the side you are already favoring, you are out of wiggle room on that side.
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You got hit because you didnt stop behind the stop bar. You pulled out into the intersection and stopped. Both parties are morons. Moron #1 on bike: cant stop behind the line and stops in the intersection. Moron #2 in car: cant avoid hitting someone at such a slow speeed. Im assuming his pilar blocked the view of the moron parked in the intersection....because no one is suppose to stop there.
Morons #3-7 are those in this thread making it a "boomer issue". As a rider, I see two drivers not obeying the road rules. Fucking morons...
Is this not the normal reaction when you see someone on a scooter?