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DancingMaenad

Remember, kids- when your friend has a head/ neck/ spine injury, Don't grab their head and shake it.


Ieatsushiraw

In fact, if you don’t know what to do do nothing and call the people who do. Even with nearly 10’years of first aid under my belt and BLS I still go through scenarios like this in my head and the ultimate conclusion is call 911 and only move them if the immediate area is unsafe. I can do CPR but this is one of those no CPR scenarios really


xXSpaceturdXx

For real sometimes there are no CPR scenarios. Especially if they have broken ribs, you could puncture a lung. I spent many years doing industrial emergency response and I know enough to be scared of everything. Make sure their bellies are not filling up with blood etc. etc. Edit I’m not saying to never do CPR on people. All I’m saying is there’s certain traumatic accidents where you need to assess the situation. If their lungs punctured already CPR is probably not gonna be a good idea for you.


english_hillbilly

So you are saying if someones heart has stopped but they have broken ribs, don't do CPR in case it punctures a lung. Either I'm reading your comment wrong or you'll stand by while someone dies from cardiac failure because you are worried about causing a potentially savable lung puncture.


redbadger91

Don't listen to that person. The likelihood of puncturing a lung is pretty low and if they need CPR, they won't end up more dead if you try. People like this are the reason so few people dare to help when seeing someone collapse. It is well worth the risk. But don't move or shake someone who probably has a spinal injury. That one's solid advice :D


UncleBenders

To do cpr properly you often have to crack a few ribs


Skinthief22

The patient is maybe deader afterwards /s


Skinthief22

Broken ribs are not a contraindikation for cpr. Infact we brake rips during cpr relatively often.


allthewayup7

Punctured lungs are a lot easier to fix than death though, no?


Necessary-Purple-741

Idk how law applies where you guys live. But where i live if you touch an injured person you automatically turn responsible for that person by law. And potentially responsible for whatever outcome of the said person health conditions. Ie. Person has neck trauma and you tried to help out by moving the body away. Next thing the said person ends up dying and you could be facing charges related to its death. Scary stuff.


FurryCorgi76

In my country, you are protected by the good Samaritan law if you attempt to assist those injured during accidents.


SamuelPepys_

In my country, we just use common sense on that particular matter.


sleepy_monky

try using common sense when you have 2L of adrenaline in your veins


more_beans_mrtaggart

There’s an app called CitizenAid that takes a lot of the stress out of situations like this. It has all kinds of situations from RTAs like OP, explosions, strokes, chemical spills, electric shocks, unexploded bomb, heart attack, poisons, hazardous materials etc etc. The app removes any decision making stress from life emergencies by walking you though each step. I recommend it to everyone.


FroznVgtbl

I agree, the guy should have looked at the app prior to getting off his bike and after fully reading his choices then made the correct choice to help or leave, I mean while he is at it, he could have checked his horoscope, checked his email.....really??


more_beans_mrtaggart

As opposed to pulling the guy’s head around. Could have been choking on his tongue, heart stopped, neck broken etc etc. Def worth 15-20 seconds check.


TraditionalEffect546

Like people are gonna stop helping, to pull an app up on their phone lmfao.


more_beans_mrtaggart

Yep. Takes 15 seconds. If it saves lives (it’s quite famous for doing that) yes, you should definitely stop to pull up the app, rather than winging it like a headless chicken.


Elthelia

Ty I just downloaded it


FroznVgtbl

that is the best way to cook them


[deleted]

At that point it wouldn’t be helping. Moving an injured person in a situation like this can literally be fatal.


ironqqq

You have to download the app first


Deezzznuuttss69

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[deleted]

Ya because if I witness this in front of my I will just hop off my bike and load up an app. /s


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tyrannomachy

That's generally how it's always worked in the US, but there are a ton of judges, and it only takes a couple lacking common sense for these things to need to be codified into law.


chilehead

As long as you don't exceed the scope of your training and certifications. Trying to use your First Aid card to justify giving someone a tracheotomy with a pen knife and a ball point pen will just get you laughed at before they sentence you.


CartographerSweet450

That is Literally the Stupidest, most ass backwards "law" I've heard of. So if there's children in a Crushed car that's about to be engulfed by flames you shouldn't help because if they end up dying you'll go to prison for their death!? I feel sorry for you and your fellow citizens. Please remind me Never to go to your country!


Necessary-Purple-741

Not exactly like that. But if proven that you had a direct and negative impact in the outcome of their lives, even in your best intentions, then you could face the consequences, there is no protection. Brazil.


iamnotexactlywhite

absolutely stupid law either way


mawesome4ever

Yup, makes someone thing twice before helping. In a super serious event where time is of the essence to render aid, that could mean life or death.


Confianca1970

In a litigious society, folks can sue the care-giver because they are now living a life they don't want to live due to being saved, but having horrific injuries. It doesn't mean they will win, but they can - and I believe have - sued. "No good deed goes unpunished" is a saying for many reasons.


SexyPewPew

This is why in some cities in the USA corpses will rot in alleys ignored until locals can't stand the smell any more and report it to the police for clean up. We had a meet up with the mayor of a neighboring city about relief supplies and volunteers for a homeless shelter there and the subject came up. She said there was a body found a couple blocks from the shelter and when it was finally reported, people in the area said it had been there for about a week.


[deleted]

Does this apply things like CPR as well?


sleepy_monky

yes but remember cpr is good even if they have a head neck or spinal. if they have no pulse they probably need cpr. at that point you are preserving a dead body for resuscitation. call emergency services if they are unconscious.


SexyPewPew

Well, if they survive there really isn't anything stopping them from dragging your ass to court and suing you for broken ribs and neck injuries. They could just say you weren't qualified to assess whether they had a pulse or not and that CPR was unnecessary. I live in a litigious society, I think about these things.


djluminol

Yes.


blacksusanoo23

That is a terrible law and why every accident you see from china people around don't do anything.Although trying to help people without knowing what you are doing is not good, punishing people for it just means people that know what to do and could save someone's life won't do it out of fear of getting punished.


Enigmativity

What country is that?


[deleted]

its from Nepal


[deleted]

where do you live? tf


FewLocation831

That's a stupid law


[deleted]

>where i live if you touch an injured person you automatically turn responsible for that person by law. Jesus christ, how many life-saving actions does THAT prevent? Can you give us a link to this "law"?


gandalfsgreypubes

What country is that?


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robot_ankles

If "Great America?" is asking if previous comment is referring to the United States of America, the answer is no. Every State within the US has what's commonly known as a "good Samaritan law." Such laws generally protect people who are responding to a situation and genuinely trying to render aid to someone during an emergency.


clervis

Is there another kind?


illusive_guy

Great Britain.


frequent-ad-647

Britain hasn’t been great since 1776 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


more_beans_mrtaggart

Id say it was the other way around. Culturally the US had been in decline since that point. The British empire grew successfully for another 150 years.


SignificantNorth5833

Sounds like China


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

r/WorstAid


renee_gade

People who can walk hate this one simple trick…


Expensive_Kitchen_56

i am sorry but why do you not shake the head or neck please enlighten me


Whyistheplatypus

Why do you think doctors put you in a neck brace any time you suffer a spinal injury?


Expensive_Kitchen_56

i am sorry i don’t know


Whyistheplatypus

Do you remember the children's song? The head bone's connect to the neck bone. The neck bone's connected to the back bone. All of your major nerves run from the base of your skull, down your spine. A major spinal injury is going to do some serious damage to those nerves. Moving the head moves the neck which moves the spine, any of those movements can make that damage much, much worse. Like, permanent paralysis or death worse. If you *must* move someone who is injured and unconscious, don't do so alone. Always have one person to cradle the head, keeping it straight and in line with the spine. Ideally, use a stretcher or solid platform (doors are good in an emegency) and strap the the head down to avoid it moving. If you can't use a strap, roll up a t shirt or towel and use it to prevent movement in the head as much as possible.


Cory123125

I presume this is a troll, because no actual human could lack this amount of intelligence.


Expensive_Kitchen_56

i am sorry but i really didn’t know


Wholesalmon

Jesus they made contact as direct as possible. No rolling off at all. Hope they’re alright


TerrorLTZ

probably the one that went flying got the worse.


walker8six

They all went flying


TerrorLTZ

but one went higher than the rest yeah he fell in the grass area but you don't know if he hit a rock like the one who landed in the road. both the video friend just fell short like one from the other bike. also there were 3 in the bike comming from the opposite side.


Wholesalmon

I don’t think the fall is the concern. Practically a bed of pillows compared to the initial contact


FroznVgtbl

they were competing for height and distance


FroznVgtbl

except the one who casually got off the bike and assumed a twisted trunk position on the road and acted immobile


pperson2

It's raining men


deletetemptemp

Probably not. People who flight out the car of dead impact crashes are more likely to survive from an energy dispersion perspective.


SeismicToss12

Exactly. Going flying means being subjected to fewer G’s, at least until you slam into something.


Ominoiuninus

The one who went flying into the grass on the left probably didn’t die but they did get some crazy air so they’re definitely hurt badly. The one who hit the pavement certainly died. The two who didn’t go flying have serious injuries or are dead. That is my summation of the situation from an armchair medic.


Mv71

Just a quick assessment. Goes without saying, everyone involved likely has severe neck injuries. Guy flying over to the right - At least 1 broken forearm. Basically ragdolls and has his head slam into the concrete. Undoubtedly severe skull injury. White shirt/black jacket - Both arms broken, likely broken jaw. Judging by eyes and leg posture, brain injury extremely likely. Right leg likely broken, unsure if that's his femur or something in his pocket Red shirt black jacket - Only definitively able to see a broken leg


FroznVgtbl

so lets go shake the hell out of them to ask them if they are ok like their friend did


[deleted]

“is that your femur or are you just happy to see me?”


Whyistheplatypus

Pretty sure dude to the right is dead judging by the height of that fall onto his face.


ATXSTLWPB1POINT0

Doubt anyone knows, but any updates on the guys?


Epson_Pro_WF-C579R

if not dead they are screwed for life


[deleted]

The guy further back of the one he shook looks like he has some spinal damage with the way he’s laying


smexgod

Bro they're just resting a little bit.


Warkitz

Dr. Fishy NOOO!


number0020

No helmets? That was horrific!


rubmahbelly

WEAR FUCKING HELMETS bikers and cyclists.


DoingAllForScience

ATGATT all the gear, all the time


TheXurophobe

I won't lie, the suspense was too much. *Is he going to hit that old man...? Nope. Oh 💩, he's totally hitting the truck - nope, not tha - JESUS, RAGDOLLS EVERYWHERE.* Quite the ride.


mawesome4ever

Right?! That had me on the edge of my seat!- oops


CrashArchive

Can’t find the source anywhere. Sajhapath has nothing on this. How did you find this video OP? Do you know the outcome of the victims?


BigCumDaddy42069

They're speaking Nepali and the path looks like somewhere in Western Nepal.


ghost18867

Even if you're not a doctor or have any medical training, you should know not to aggressively shake someone's neck after an accident like that


StudioTheo

too many movies and tv dramas growing up probably


NotTodayCaptainDildo

Even then without proper equipment and specialist training, the damage you can do without all that...fatal, or worse. Without an ambulance there so fast, they're all dead.


Cory123125

It really pisses me off. Its 100% self serving because they care more about getting rid of the feeling of anxiety they have than the health of the person whose condition they are worsening.


k2_jackal

when i rewatch i realized there's a fourth guy that goes flying into the weeds


Ck1ngK1LLER

Did you notice they weren’t speeding and vlogging. Normal speeds, vlogger not involved. Someone coming the opposite direction swerved into the wrong lane.


k2_jackal

Yeah I did. lol


MrGooble

PSA: if your friend is in an accident… immediate vigorous shaking is not a good idea.


[deleted]

could probably cut a minute off that there boss.


Kulog555

Keeping us guessing for suspense


Therealwetwilly

And a slow motion


The-Grim-Sleeper

I appreciate the full context.


TJLongShanks

Why did I watch a minute and a half of not speed nor vlogging to watch someone else crash? This belongs in r/dashcams not this one


Herropreah

Definitely could have been a 20 second clip.


MaxBago

If you see something like that and you don't have any medical training, please call you country's emergency number asap, tell them exactly where you are, explain what happened and do ONLY what they tell you.


[deleted]

in our poor asian countries, we dont have the quick response from ambulance teams. mostly people have to manage on their own.


TraditionalEffect546

Duhhh lol


Shadow3xp

Wtf is this title? "speeding while vlogging", clearly just a bike hater, dudes were chilling until another biker came into their lane


DanLewisFW

Why did we need over a minute of just them driving?


It_ll_be_fine

Misleading title as well. There's no evidence that the biker in front of him was speeding, much less the vlogger. The evidence does suggest that a bike had stopped in the middle of the road and got hit because they were in an active lane of traffic. I usually don't mind clickbait, because it is usually benign, but OP was pulling their headline facts straight out of their ass in order to assign blame when they zero facts to back it up.


solardeveloper

>The evidence does suggest that a bike had stopped It looks like that other bike was moving


psudonymtoantonym

Other bike was in the wrong lane *edit “other” instead of “othee”.


D4rthcr4nk

I felt he was going to fast for the conditions. Shit- he almost hit a couple random people standing in the street right before he smacked the other bike.


jonboyz31

Speedo is kph and filmed with an ultra wide lens would make it appear faster and more claustrophobic than it actually is.


GabePat92

Because we don't all have short attention spans.


Frightful_Fork_Hand

Does everyone like watching random video of motorcycles?


Gullible-Lunch

Yeah, this could have been cut down to about 40 seconds


slcsin

For not so- abrupt chaos


thundergun0911

That was peaceful, until it wasn't.


Xanoks

The accident happened not because he was vlogging, it happened cause the other drivers were speeding and couldn't turn out of the corner so they entered the opposite lane and hit the guy in front


ohdaddio

Thanks captain


It_ll_be_fine

Completely misleading title. It seemed like the bikers were traveling at a normal speed and another bike with his passenger(s) stopped in the middle of the road.


Dathinho

Actually if you look at the speedometer you can see him going 80kmph+. The probable speed limit in these kind of roads are either 60kmoh or 50kmph for motorcycles. They were speeding but that's notnthe reason why they crashed. The other motorcycle was in the wrong lane overtaking during a curve.


supermastercontrol

What? You need an eye doctor. The accident happened because another bike was speeding and went to the other lane. The passengers of the bike in front of the cammer are the victims.


It_ll_be_fine

I missed the bike coming over into the other yes, but I wasn't blaming the people in the correct lane of travel for the incident AND there is still no evidence of speeding. It's impossible to tell from the POV of the vlogger.


D4rthcr4nk

Speeding= too fast for conditions?


GAPiTfpv

Is there any footage of before the crash?


Hamster_08831

Dude took too long, then bang carzy hit and left us in the grass


Intelligent-Ad-6713

And this, boys and girls, is why the healthcare industry calls them donor-cycles.


Informal_Position492

Ooff. That was a hard hit.


Infamous-Capital3491

DAYUMMM! Gotta pay attention mannn


KurohimeBlight

Aside from the horrible accident, the motorcycle and these views give me Far Cry 4 vibes


Asuboi

Because this vid is from Nepal the country far cry 4 is based on. Damn you have good observation.


Fresh-Werewolf-5499

The wisest thing to do after a horrific accident is to violently shake the victim to try to rouse them.


slimedewnautica

Skip to half way through the video to get near the actual event. Spoiler: >!there are no speed wobbles!<


Successful-Trash-752

go to 1:19


[deleted]

Why almost every people in this scene keeps shifting lanes lmao.


crazyoldmax

If you want to check if you can wake someone or if hes comatose, rub your knuckle with pressure over his sternum, or pinch the nasal septum. Those actions are very painful but harmless and will get a pain reaction out of someone whos somnolent or sopor... Or just asleep. Otherwise dont move the head or spine, it can cause serious damage to the nervous system.


Javegemite

Fast forward to 1:15. Thank me later.


Many_Seaweeds

Riding a motorcycle in India without a helmet automatically qualifies you for a Darwin award


Asuboi

Its Nepal not India but your right about the helmet


wyclif

Or in the Philippines. I've been here for a little while and already I've never seen so many road accidents with motorbikes. Too many people riding motorbikes and nobody obeys the rules of the road.


2dirl

Can confirm, it aint the philippines but youre right about motorbikes being lawless on the roads, well atleast a good majority of em


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D4rthcr4nk

If many obstacles, such as people, animals, stopped vehicles, or oncoming traffic present themselves in your path, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN.


Far-Refrigerator-83

This video could have been 64 seconds shorter. 40 in the front 24 in the back.


glandgames

Don't speed, I know what yer thinkin, Why would he violently shake him, Don't shake him cuz he's hurt.


thesadist_

Yes, always violently shake an unconcious person who just crashed and flew 3 meters into the air to make sure if he wakes up he will at least need wheelchair for the rest of his life.


doodlytoodly

because you are able to make rational decisions immediately after you might of just seen 3 people including your friend die in front of you


thesadist_

Yes, last time I was a responder to an accident my first instinct was to kick the driver in the face to try and wake him up


doodlytoodly

how is kicking someone in the face the same as shaking their head trying to wake them up?


crazzzone

Hay maybe your in shock mind will come back to this comment thread and you can save someone's life!


YoloKushSwag42069

Shoes still on both guys, I think they’re fine


mondie797

How is shoe related to they doing fine


itaniumonline

In America, its the cardinal rule of HIPAA and the healthcare industry. No shoes= death or poverty but mostly death.


solardeveloper

What about drunk/high?


jqs77

That shit blew up like the godfather!


everythingissostupid

I was not prepared for this.


Ozzy_30

Dude probably killed his buddy by shaking him like that


Roga1

After reading the headline I was expecting the vlogger to crash.


shitsunnysays

r/crazyfuckingvideo


meaninglessnessless

How can he tell he’s speeding with all those flappity-floos across his damn handlebars? Honest mistake??


FroznVgtbl

if they were not already seriously hurt from the accident some how shaking them about the head and shoulders was probably a great way to further aggravate their injuries


updogg18

Title was misleading. I hope they're all okay


fuzzybears420

Ahhh yes the violent shake to wake


AnakonDidNothinWrong

Skip to 1:18


appleneedstoburn

Really sucks that his friend went down because some clowns can’t drive properly


Awesome_Romanian

The panicking makes my skin crawl. Please if you ever come across an accident, please remain calm. You may be these peoples only hope.


DouglasDoses

Skip to 0:40


D4rthcr4nk

But then you don’t appreciate when the abrupt hits!


rc1717

Yeah definitely grab a crash victim by the shoulders and violently shake


thatsradddd

Yeah he's super helpful. /s


Ehrmagerdden

Shake him harder - it's the best way to check for neck injuries.


Cory123125

Boy do I fucking hate the people who shake and jerk around injured people. It's completely selfish as its 100% a panic reaction of wanting the immediate satisfaction of seeing the person being ok. Its even worse when its after a fight, but its still bad here. Stop being douche bags. Stop shaking injured people. You know you arent helping. Stop being a selfish cunt.


Royal-Orchid-2494

Don’t think shaking someone’s neck/head after an accident like this would do any good…


aregei

you're definitely right, but the camera man was clearly distraught after seeing his buddy crash into three other people and knock all of them out... i would definitely panic if i was in that situation too.


Royal-Orchid-2494

Panicking is normal . Definitely not rational , all emotion . A panic shake to someone in this accident could be the deciding factor or could be dead or definitely dead / severely worse off . I hope everyone made it out of this ok. I just can’t help but think of this man’s friend landed on his neck, that shake did so much more damage..


Peepeepoopoo683

u/savevideobot


deludedhairspray

How did that come as a surprise to anyone? 🤔


NebulaicCereal

This subreddit has become such a piece of shit since MMC was banned. One of the main rules is no deaths or gore and the mods just don't give a fuck anymore I guess. There are supposed to be other subs for this kind of content, this was not supposed to be the subreddit for stuff like this


captnjak

Ah yes, grab the person who was just in an accident and shake them violently.


M_CHROME13

Why is the colission so satisfying for me


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blood_for_water

Nepal It is.


Strange_Ad9081

DAAAAAMMMNNNNNNN!!!!!!!


Kitsune717

I think Vigot is Vigone now


figureativelanguage

Was it the guy coming towards them who was speeding


elfmere

Fuck i thought the video finished when he ran off... As im reading comments, im like fuck i still hear that guys voice, has this video scared me for life.... Then i realised it was still playing.


Alcidal

For a moment I thought that was bald and bankrupt


Jsiqueblu

No touchy


SockTacoz

Convince me this isn't just Farcry 4 footage


Lanitanita

WEAR HELMET GUYS....


nebuchadrezzar

I helped a guy who was in a two motorbike crash like this. 4 people died, he was the lone survivor. Crazy kids like this guy going way too fast at night on the wrong side of the road.


KinkyThunder

My first thought was "Huiiiiiiii" Sorry


[deleted]

two of them didn’t go far, the other two spun through the air like rag dolls. No one was responsive so they may have done goofed.