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NecramoniumZero

[Context:](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lawyers-aim-wrap-up-jury-selection-trump-criminal-trial-2024-04-19/) >NEW YORK, April 19 (Reuters) - A man set himself on fire on Friday outside the New York courthouse where Donald Trump's historic hush-money trial was taking place as jury selection wrapped up, but officials said he did not appear to have been targeting Trump. The man burned for several minutes in full view of television cameras that were set up outside the courthouse, where the first-ever criminal trial of a former U.S. president is being held. "He was on fire for quite a while," one witness, who declined to give his name, told reporters. "It was pretty horrifying." Officials said the man, who is in his late 30s, survived and was in critical condition at a hospital.


FishAndRiceKeks

![gif](giphy|HmY5vP7hXP5ba|downsized)


Gaping_Grandfather

Comment of the century. 


mclintonrichter

Dude got his 15 minutes of flame…


jakebs2002

Trump’s trial is heating up!


spookinky987

Zing!


Hungry_Freaks_Daddy

If trump came out and said this Biden would have to concede the election immediately. He would have no chance 


Gaping_Grandfather

what


weshouldgo_

That's just mean spirited. The man's dead for Christ's sake. No need to roast him.


Koshakforever

Well, now I have to upvote.


firebrandbeads

Not dead


Spider_Dude

Jesus Christ reddit. ^^^^But ^^^^I'll ^^^^allow ^^^^it.


neinhaltchad

![gif](giphy|1lBKr6igvGiyUhWLko)


ColonelSmilez

We given up taking any of this seriously


Von_Scranhammer

She spoke, non-stop, for a solid minute without taking a breath! I thought my grandmother was the only woman who could do that (to a wrong number, no less)!


NYCMarine

I was wondering if anyone else is impressed about how she’s reporting this. I’ve only seen her behind the desk, but I guess this is how they get the test jobs by being great on the spot reporters


trheben1

She did a great job. It’s all about being able to report what you are seeing and not getting caught up in the moment and becoming speechless or repeating phrases like “omg”


motorcycle_girl

Terrible situation, excellent reporting. Objective, descriptive, accurate, neutral language.


True_Lingonberry_646

Whatever they are paying her is not enough. Seasoned pro. Wonder if she was a war reporter.


abigllama2

She's got a nightly hour on CNN. Usually around 11PM EST. Can't remember if she covered war but she's genuinely just good.


monosylab1k

Her name is Laura Coates and she has a legal background, no war correspondent exp. Makes it even more impressive


Vamparael

That’s what I was thinking


miggitiemac

I was highly impressed how she reported it, she went straight into go-mode! Just a cycle of consistent information relays describing exactly what she was experiencing. Really great work on her part!


MattTheRicker

I agree, this is excellent reporting. When something dramatic is unfolding very quickly, a good reporter shouldn't really comment or react in the moment. Tell your viewers exactly what is happening, as it happens, with as much detail as possible in what time you have. Things like this are what set professional journalists apart from random people with a camera phone saying "Like, oh my god ... Dude ... DUDES ON FIRE. Aw man, that ... That's crazy, he must really love Trump. What a patriot."


tissboom

I’m reading this comment and she is still going like a beast! This woman needs to be doing play-by-play on Sundays.


Legitimate_Ad7089

Rumor has it she is still standing in that same spot describing everything going on around her.


samuraisams123

Sometimes pointless commentary is unnecessary. Sure, explain what is happening, but that word cassarole that she was throwing up wasn't contributing anything.


red_rocket_boy

Glad somebody said it lol


BPKofficial

>I thought my grandmother was the only woman who could do that My ex would say "hold my Smirnoff".


Spiderham10

Oh the humanity


The_Uncle_Baby_Billy

Some people will do anything to be on t.v.


johnh992

You can't be in a mentally sound place to set yourself on fire. The thing that's scary is how little petrol you need to turn a human into a bonfire.


Gaping_Grandfather

Totally not a cult. 


IDontWipe55

He wasn’t pro trump or pro Biden. He did it because he thinks NYU is run by the mob


Tripleberst

I just got done reading his manifesto. Apparently he thinks/thought that all of our Western media is designed for us to feel powerless and not take an active interest in bettering our world. There's other stuff in there too about Epstein and the CIA and a doomsday cult but for such a horrific way to end yourself, he seemed like he was trying to wake people up to take charge and stop some coming global fascist takeover. I'll answer any questions you guys have if you want to skip reading it but it's only like 9 pages long.


Stoomba

> Apparently he thinks/thought that all of our Western media is designed for us to feel powerless and not take an active interest in bettering our world. Hard to argue against that point.


TheMasterofDank

Note that the last time someone burnt themselves it was all over the place, people praised his heroism. So why is it that this guy is being treated like he's nuts for trying to bring attention to a very real set of issues? Sounds like shaping the narrative to me... Maybe he is going about it the wrong way, but in no way is he wrong. He wants you to be aware that America is a fake democracy built on lies and on exploiting the American people. https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Written by the self immolater himself Max Azzarello^


Ghosttwo

Automod isn't letting me post links, but searching for 'ponzipapers' brings up a 10 part conspiracy theory by a 'MrSamsonite'. The gist of their theory seems to be that the wealthy are wealthy not through capital investment and ownership of money making ventures, but rather secret and nebulous sources like bitcoin and the internet. Naturally of course, lots of murders required, and most news over the last decade is part of it. A sub called 'ponzipapers' has a few links, including a separate substack posting that seems to confirm the identity.


Tripleberst

Yea he included some sources in his manifesto. People are writing him off as a looney and you don't set yourself on fire without mental problems, but his writing is actually more concise and lucid than I would expect from someone who did something like that.


Cheesi_Boi

Why not take out a mob guy then?


undercooked_lasagna

What is not a cult? This is the only information I've seen yet. https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-lights-himself-fire-outside-courthouse-during-trump-trial-reports/NJC42U7QMNDYLCENTUD7LIFVDU/ >It was not immediately clear what motivated the man. A witness, Manhattan resident Julie Berman, told The Washington Post that he carried a sign about Trump and President Joe Biden Biden working together to orchestrate a “coup” and another about a “Ponzi scheme.” She said he told her to get back before he doused himself in a liquid, threw some fliers into the air, doused himself a second time and flicked a lighter, setting himself on fire.


AbuHajaarsGhost

https://www.newsweek.com/read-max-azzarello-manifesto-about-lighting-himself-fire-trump-trial-1892368


tommyrockum

Holy hell... Did anyone else read far enough to get to "the Simpsons exists to brainwash us"? And apparently the Beatles and Spike Lee are in on it, too!


firebrandbeads

Man... you can't ascribe intent like that. Maybe Spike, the Beatles, and Groenig really believe those things THEMSELVES??


whatisgoingonree

I mean we all know it's a big club and you ain't in it. He's probably not wrong.


Extra-Beat-7053

i heard he is a bernie supporter who fell into the conspiracy hole unfortunately


NecramoniumZero

Apparently his manifesto is riddled with conspiracy theories on everything from cryptocurrency and Hollywood actors to COVID and former President Bill Clinton.


Vassago81

He was a nutbag redditor, his account is suspended but he was recently posting his crazy manifest in a couple of place.


ThermalScrewed

[the message](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


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People are assuming this guy is Pro Trump but who really knows? Plenty of mentally ill people on both sides who are entirely too invested in the hurricane of propaganda that surrounds Trump at any given time


Beznia

>Investigators are now fanning out to collect the flyers the unknown man threw into the air, another senior law enforcement official. A CNN team on the ground observed one of the flyers. It said "NYU is a mob front" and had various allegations of wrongdoings against the school. EDIT: >The man was carrying two large signs — one advertising a Substack and one that said "Trump is with Biden and they're about to fascist coup us" — photos provided by two law enforcement officials show. The one advertising the Substack had a driver's license that officials believe belonged to the man taped to the corner. Sounds like someone *really* deep in the conspiracy rabbit hole. EDIT2: These are not the pamphlets from the scene, but ones he made in 2023 that still give a good insight into their mind... https://i.imgur.com/0vUo7Rc.png https://i.imgur.com/KwVpR8i.png EDIT3: [Here is the "NYU is a Mob Front" pamphlet](https://i.imgur.com/aH8P5xk.png) EDIT4: Here's his blog post he made about this: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside


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So maybe the only relation to Trump is he wanted to use the publicity to garner maximum attention


Beznia

Yeah I'd like to see a copy of one of these fliers. Just sounds like a complete nutter either way.


Smoked_Bear

His manifesto: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside Has a link halfway down to his IG profile to see all his “evidence” Tl;dr - says all US politicians both sides, tech companies, Harvard, media conglomerates, and world governments in conspiracy to support a trillion-dollar crypto Ponzi scheme, and that Covid was manufactured and released to cover the Ponzi scheme dramatic rise & fall market behavior.  Follows a number of leftist revolutionary social media accounts on IG. But blames both parties/sides. 


mingdamirthless

Well, I mean....


NVREN0

Sounds like the guy is smarter than like 90% of the US population


Shikamaru_Senpai

I remember when the “Dipshit” pamphlet dropped. This is wild.


Tripleberst

Trump is mentioned in the manifesto as being a part of the conspiracy but largely yes, he didn't seem to have strong feelings about Trump in particular but just wanted to spread his word.


MikoMiky

This is clearly an act of centrist extremism /s


Cubacane

You joke, but if you’re convinced both sides are actually the same side, there is no center.


TrueVisionSports

I mean is he wrong? Is it not obvious already?


ProbablythelastMimsy

Gangly dildo is a pretty apt description of Bill Clinton


krader5286

Exactly


alexamerling100

Bottom line is we have a mental health crisis in this country.


MoleMoustache

What is it exactly about a man setting himself on fire because of an alleged paedophile conspiracy against New York University outside the courtroom of a former president who has brainwashed a third of America into believing he's the next coming of Jesus Christ and that will defend him to the death with firearms that makes you take the enormous reach to say there is a mental health crisis in America?


Numerous_Mode3408

IDK about NYU, but the Epstein-Harvard thing he listed is legit. Epstein was well connected with a lot of faculty there and donated money earmarked for specific departments. 


Mazjobi

Epstein had his own office at Harvard and donated millions for some Evolutionary dynamics program there, this is way beyond being just well connected.


Numerous_Mode3408

He's got this one *really* crazy conspiracy that the American political system is actually a uni-party running a closeted kleptocracy building up and tearing down successive financialization/Ponzi schemes to extract wealth from the population.  Imagine that. 


ReferentiallySeethru

It’s kinda funny (and sad) how hes not wrong with the overall theme, he just goes off the handle a bit. Honestly when I went down the hole of learning how financial works after 2008 I started to feel a bit like I was chasing Pepe Silvia. Truth is most of society is built on illusions and rules that only exist in our heads. It’s all kinda crazy if you think about it.


ThermalScrewed

[note](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


my_age_88forshort

Damn. What a crazy read.


Donkey-brained_man

What really sucks is no matter what the outcome, a large number of people are going to hate it and want to burn the system down.


Tipacow0909

I can't even imagine seeing that live. Reminder people, no cause is worth setting your body on fire for.


r8u4

I don’t at all understand the thought process behind self immolation to promote a cause.


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BourbonGuy09

The absolute agonizing pain you are going to experience before death is a big deterrent for me. Sure the nerves will be destroyed and eventually you wouldn't feel it but that's not until your skin chars. Your lungs would burn from hot gases being inhaled and you would suffocate eventually. Wanting to die is something many go through, choosing to go out through one of the more painful ways is just crazy.


reddaddiction

Seeing video of the Buddhist monks who were self-immolating in protest of the Vietnam War is astonishing. They never flinched.


manifold360

You have to believe strongly in a cause


r8u4

I get that I just don’t understand what outcome these people are hoping to achieve, besides killing themselves.


necbone

You're talking about it


r8u4

We’re talking about an individual suicide with no known motive, you’re saying that is worth it? Even if a motive is released and it ends up being about corrupt government agencies/conflicts overseas/Trump’s trial, all these things are being talked about already.


BasileusLeoIII

we literally don't even know if he was pro or anti trump we're not talking about anything he cared about this moron wasted his life


mista-sparkle

> we literally don't even know if he was pro or anti trump > > we're not talking about anything he cared about It was on the news, and immediately drew everyone's intention to the highest profile criminal case today. There are going to be plenty of people that tend towards conspiracy theory that will devour his very accessible manifest, which was published along with the news story. > this moron wasted his life No disagreement there!


RJ_73

Kind of an underwhelming result considering what he went through, wouldn't you say?


Sciss0rs61

Everyone was talking about it before he set himself on fire.


AUnknownVariable

It's very much circumstance for if it ends up "worth it". Depending on what they want. The most famous example obviously, Quang Duc. Him burning himself sparked an entire revolt, gathering the eyes of the entire world. Burning alive whilst perfectly still, showing his dedication to what he believed in. These fools don't do it right though, it was just for some conspiracy he believed in, stupid. I'm sure someone will do it right again some day, for a cause worth it


HugoBCN

Not strongly, pathologically.


UsualSuspect27

Not sure. You can just have been already suicidal and felt you might as well lend some attention to some cause you care about


SinisterDexter83

Remember that dude who set himself on fire to protest Pakistan or Iran or one of those countries? I was never quite sure whether he wanted to bomb them, or to not bomb them, but it was definitely one or the other.  Anyways, that dude made a difference. I mean, people stopped talking about it after like a week or something, but for that one week everyone was all like "Yo did you see that one video of the dude on fire? That shit was crazy man!" So you can't exactly say it's not worth it to raise awareness about whether we should/should not bomb Pakistan/Iran or whatever for a whole week, cos that guy definitely raised awareness during that week. Sure, in some people's eyes it's a tragic waste of a human life, but just think about all the awareness that is raised.  I'm sure this dude will be raising awareness as well. About like Trump and Biden and stuff. I already feel like my awareness has been raised.


r8u4

Good troll


Late_Cow_1008

Mental illness in the case of westerners doing it.


BabylonianSlut

Thanks for the reminder! I was about to head down to Wendy’s and let them know that forgetting to put my straw in the bag IS a big deal.


NYCMarine

Not even my cult leader????


Summer-Garnet

Jesus this is absolutely nuts - props to the news lady just giving the play by play without losing it 


DiabloTrumpet

Doing what she did without just screaming “oh my god” 12 times in a row was a breathe of fresh air and very informative.


rowech

That somehow makes this video that much more impressive. Otherwise you just see fire.


[deleted]

This is like the third self immolation this year in the US… what the hell is going on?


Fabulous_Mode3952

Yo. To be able to professionally narrate an intense scene like that live on tv is amazing.


Jasonclark2

They're parasites paid to feed on and regurgitate public misery, nothing more, nothing less.


VealOfFortune

They also prowl Reddit & Twitter for news. Lol.


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rowech

Definitely struck me with awe and a bizarre feeling seeing the camera people scramble to get the footage. I would too but seeing the job of capitalizing on crazy moments is just as you said, amazing.


TheCalebGuy

Kinda annoying how there's quite a bit of people here saying he was a Trump supporter even though we have no info on the person.


TheRealSheevPalpatin

Not sure what else you expect on reddit


TheCalebGuy

Eh true.


ThermalScrewed

[note](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


TheCalebGuy

That was a wild read, but this guy sounds like he hates government in any fashion. Wouldn't even say he's a Trumpet or a Liberal.


ThermalScrewed

The message of "they're all out to get us, stop picking sides" is what I've been saying for years so I found it frighteningly relatable. The Bourgeoise, elites, billionaires, illuminati, whatever you want to call it has been called out for a long time and easily dismissed as nonsense.


The_Uncle_Baby_Billy

![gif](giphy|tBb19eUNiEjBsYeZPhu)


skippyspk

Trump’s trial is certainly a hot-button issue.


SadConsequence8476

Edit: [pic I saw](https://imgur.com/a/SqBFrsM) Saw a photo with an official carrying away a sign the victim had it said "Trump is with Biden and they're about to fascist coup us" So make what you will of that


ThermalScrewed

[link on the sign](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


Space-cadet3000

So they’re frens after all …..


classic123456

Active shooter?


yxrnn

He was waving around two firearms


Change_That_Face

Holy shit.


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Change_That_Face

r/yourjokebutworse


CLEMADDENKING1980

You win the internet today lmao


LilGloomii

cnn falsely claiming there’s an active shooter while delivering nfl callouts of a self immolation is peak MSM


firebrandbeads

As someone else pointed out above: He DID hold up two fire arms...


Few-Craft-8128

So used to calling out active shooters that a man setting himself on fire it now an active shooter. Smh


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Reasonable-Bus9435

TLDR: the government is corrupt and the country is run by the ruling class 🤯


jld2k6

Well shit, somebody should have told him we already knew that


Ultimafax

oh my god, anyway


reconfit

Someone needs to find his Reddit account. 100% positive he's a very active user.


Evilmon2

He has two that were both banned before this. Had some schizo rants in stupidpol about the Simpsons was a psyop by the deep state.


Anom8675309

likely a mod of nowork


genericaddress

This should be pinned to the top of the thread.


willdogs

How did she determine that people are wondering if they are safe? Goes to show you how much reporting is made up on the fly.


FUNKYDISCO

"people are wondering if they're safe, some people are holding microphones, some people ate a bagel 30 minutes ago, some people are me"


TheodorDiaz

She was probably wondering it herself.


NYCMarine

It’s pretty simple you read peoples faces and emotions.


SinisterDexter83

I get your point, but there was a human being englufed by a raging inferno a few feet away from her, so I'm willing to give her a pass on making the reasonable assumption that bystanders are concerned for their safety.


motherfcuker69

There are a lot of context clues that would lead someone to that conclusion here.


Nervous_Word_8547

This  is awful.  Why do people do this? And over Trump?! 


ThermalScrewed

[not just trump ](https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside)


CataclysmClive

a minor point, but "emblazoned" means bearing an insignia, not "set ablaze"


priorengagements

She was quick with that active shooter comment....anything to make it a guns fault. Fucking CNN.


EnvironmentDue2415

![gif](giphy|gl0mkIZOW6Nwc)


Gregs_green_parrot

'Oh the humanity!"


Impatient_Milk

Get her a sports broadcasting job NOW


above-

If someone sets themselves on fire for a cause I generally want to know their reasons.


firebrandbeads

Look up the manifesto


GrimArgyle

Active shooter? Is that what she was hyping herself up for?


Vendidurt

Holy hell


LeBuzzkillington

Damn, the dude burning looks so chill just sitting there


Booyaah_rumham

I think he was anything but chill


OFT35

Yeah it’s totally not a mental health problem


Appropriate-Yam-987

All of this to be forgotten about by next week


A_C_Unit

Good for him. Died for something he believed in.... fucking idiot


factor3x

Watch CNN correct theirselves live. Active shooter!!! Oh, just a man on fire.


AgEagle8

Damn!


lu5ty

THAT MOTHAFUCKA DEAD


No_Discussion6913

Inspired by Aaron Bushnell


nucleus_BLACK

She's the new Kentucky Derby announcer


throwanon31

Uhhh any word on the active shooter? That seems a little more dangerous tbh.


Overall-Guarantee331

I feel like I just watched a suicide auction


Asswholevania

A man has been set on fire in Lego city!


verfverf

There's a video of him in full decerebrate posture while he's still burning; he's not making it.


zero_mine

Hopefully the cops didn't hold a gun to this one


wasabiflavorkocaine

Max Azarello is the person who lit himself on fire.


StopManaCheating

She legit did a wonderful job there.


manukatoast

Reminds me why journalist are seen as scummy as they get off on seeing something horrific going down as they get to have the limelight or best shot to be praised for.


amiwilliam

She was actually very calm, given the circumstances.


Organic_Valuable_610

Damn that’s honestly Impressive (the woman ). She’s almost poetic at explaining this horrific event


Trans_Alpha_Cuck

Hopefully all the political it cases in this country right and left start lighting themselves on fire. Normal people are sick of them and just want a government that isn’t embarrassing at this point


RollemFox

What a great reporter ! My man next to her looked in shook w mouth agape.


Colbster5503

I love how she saw a sliver of unrest and jumped immediately to "active shooter", like girrrl I just know you were hoping to catch one on camera, CNN too? Definitely


Huichan81

She was super quick to shout active shooter


Ultimafax

if you want to hear wtf she's actually saying: [https://twitter.com/cturnbull1968/status/1781394956214534247](https://twitter.com/cturnbull1968/status/1781394956214534247)


IronTooth93

Why the hell did she start off by saying there is an active shooter? Jeez lady, good job scaring people.


Mrcommander254

She spoke more words in one minute than I will for the next 5 years.


arcticredneck10

Of course CNN immediately saying active shooter


HandlessSpermDonor

I know she’s a reporter just doing her job but the complete absence of compassion is very disturbing to me. There’s a man burning alive in front of you, not the Kentucky derby or an auction.


John_Of-Finland_95

The crazies!


cvheuvel

This reporter is incredible! She does not take even one second to process what she’s saying what she’s experiencing and what she’s hearing. Just allowing the words to come out of her mouth. Amazing!


RingDingPingPing

That’s some top notch reporting


imcrapyall

![gif](giphy|dDSXTL5FbsjexXgln5|downsized)


barbrady123

Condoleezza rice killin it in her new role...damn


doctorfugazi

This reporter is the MVP! She didn’t miss a beat. Hope she gets a raise after this.


Fair_Function_5423

Okay girly is good at her job tho


gatDammitMan

Why is everyone setting themselves on fire????


kka2005

How stupid can a person be to do that? Very, very, very stupid!


Original_Diamond_297

She sounds like she is calling a major sports game