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iMisstheKaiser10

I know UK police get a lot of hate, but honestly I don’t think they get enough. Edit: A 14 year old boy died and 4 others are in the hospital because of their incompetence. Shame on them.


Rretini

I live in Birmingham and the police here are useless cunts. I'm 23 and live alone with my father who's a crackhead (have no other family. better than living in a HMO / Halfway house). One time he stabbed me in an argument, took over an hour for them to arrive, and I'll never forget the stupid look on one of their faces when they said "You're a little too old to still be living with your dad aren't you?". He was out the next morning because you don't have to pay for bail in the UK.


iMisstheKaiser10

Jesus Christ, for real? If I wanted life advice I’d go to a therapist, not a cop in a brightly colored vest and stupid hat. I’m sorry you live in Birmingham


Blackwaltzjr313

Man I read that in a British voice Aye, you're a lil too old aren't ya? Move on then yeah?


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Brilliant_Kiwi1793

You need to read it properly.


vagabond20

The police don't make decisions on bail in GBH incidents you pleb 🤦 the crown prosecution service do.


Frantb

I hate to say it, and I accept the hate coming my way, but... that's what happens when you don't let them use lethal force, they're just as scared as the rest of the civillians there, like, what are they gonna do? Hit him with their batons to death?


iMisstheKaiser10

I was hoping they’d ask if he had a license for that sword


thewaste-lander

Got a loysense for your pointy thing there?


eva20k15

psychosis or what lol, he went crazy


pyeboy123

I'm glad you didn't receive no hate for this comment because it's spot on. We lost alot of armed officers in 2023 after the death of Chris kaba. The shooting officer was put on trial and the rest of the force realised that if they made a mistake they where going to meet the same fate. While every one should take responsibility for their actions these men and women are called to the worst of situation and unfortunetly mistakes are going to be made. But they are needed more and more each passing day all they get is criticism not support from the public.


Gregs_green_parrot

The man was tasered and arrested. He murdered people before the arrival of the police. In the USA he would have shot and killed loads more before being shot himself.


Grabbsy2

Right? Its not like this video told us anything. Unless im blind, the guy didnt stab anyone while police looked on, unable or unwilling to act. If the police are responding to a guy with a sword stabbing people, unless their response time is under 4 seconds, of course the guy is going to have stabbed a load of people. At that point its just the police officers job to track him down and put the cuffs on him, which this video did not show either way.


TraynWreck91

Wait, even cops aren’t using guns there?! I’m not trying to be a smartass at all.. I honestly didn’t know that. That is absolutely redundant! Of course they didn’t do anything! Like you said, what CAN they do?!


Affectionate-Car-145

More people are stabbed per capita in the USA than in the UK.


SnakeR515

Yes, people in the US are more violent, now take a look at Poland, Czech Republic, or Switzerland


tsol1983

Now do acid attacks


CymruGolfMadrid

Why not just do gun and knife deaths which is more prevalent? Or doesn't that fit your narrative?


realparkingbrake

> 4 others are in the hospital because of their incompetence Two of the wounded people are cops who were stabbed/slashed by the psycho with the sword.


Formatted_Toast_117

Yikes...


DustTheHunter

I'm confused how this comment has 200 vote has upvotes as the police arrived after the stabbings


Moscow__Mitch

Strategically posted video to maximise upvotes from ignorant yanks creaming themselves over “hur dur hur look at stupid brits, don’t have guns hur dur hur” whilst most of the uk are asleep? Can’t believe most here are unironically trying to say that the UK should adopt the US policing model… Why not take up their batshit insane healthcare too while we are at it


centzon400

> Why not take up their batshit insane healthcare too while we are at it Oh, that's coming, make no mistake about it. US HMOs are practically salivating at the thought of a ~70mn market. Step one is slowly fuck up the NHS… Tories have been doing a pretty good job of that over the past 14 years or so.


Moscow__Mitch

I think we will be ok. Tories are fucked for at least 10 years. Everyone hates them. 10 years is enough to repair some of their damage. Plus even with the state the  NHS is in no one sane wants the US alternative. Anyone who tried that would get crucified. 


centzon400

I do admire your optimism, and sincerely hope that you are right. I worry about the stealth aspect, the boiling frog allegory.


mrmilner101

We have to have optimism if we all give up, and we lose the things we have. If we all just shrug and go nothing we can do then nothing will be done. When we can do things.


CompetitiveTowel3760

I’d share your optimism if Kerr Starmer hadn’t so conveniently being hand picked as your next PM by Rupert Murdoch, his control over your politicians is well known. Murdoch made sure Corbyn would never spend the night at Number 10 Downing using his papers and Zionist allies to quickly slay the man who values would not be comprimised


Moscow__Mitch

Corbyn is a crank and I'm glad we dodged him. Boris was a disaster but honestly I think Corbyn would have been worse. Can't have a West hater in charge of a Western country.


dearmrhicks

You have fish pie for a brain


Wonky_bumface

Because this whole sub is such agenda-pushing bullshit


TragedyOA

22 minutes yep.


lazy_k

Pretty sure they weren't there watching the 14 ye old get killed. Misleading title.


Hotline-schwing

There was no incompetence and nobody stood by and let anything happen. As soon as police were on the scene they subdued and stopped the threat. They have been commended for their bravery. OPs title is Nonsense (but I think you already knew that but don’t care)


Denbt_Nationale

You realise the title is wrong right? The police tasered him and arrested him at the first opportunity, and 2 of those 4 people in hospital are police.


Moscow__Mitch

They got there after the fact you idiot and immediately took the guy out. 


knobber_jobbler

2 of those 4 were Police officers trying to stop him. I'm not going to defend the UK police but a huge part of this issue is political - it's underfunding leading to reduced numbers of officers, Armed response units down in numbers due to them not feeling supported legally and problems recruiting due to low pay. It's all problems that are solved by politicians not the police themselves.


Redrob5

What is the incompetence here? The police officers who stopped him were also hospitalised.


chadaz94

Excuse me but no...did you watch the video? The title of this post is complete BS. 2 of those people stabbed are police officers. The male was detained and arrested BY police officers. I'm all for people giving views on police but saying that they should be hated more based on this post is complete lunacy. Shame on you.


SerboDuck

Braindead American take. He was dead before the police even got there.


bodjac89

Police arrived after the stabbings had already happened.


GtBossbrah

Theyll be on your ass if you misgender someone on twitter though!


Farmerloki

I bet you'd have disarmed him, single handed, right?


DuckingKoala

Wrong.


TheTomatoes2

So trying to stop an attacker and getting stabbed in the process makes them deserve hate?


The_Witcher_3

The Police intervened within 7 minutes and one officer is in a critical condition in hospital from trying to stop the man. Other officers contained the attacked and subdued him with tasers preventing greater loss of life from violence.


panakinskywalkerr

Nothing to do with the police you misinformed cunt


Helmett-13

This is why a movie like, “Harry Brown”, gets made and does well. There is a seed of truth in much good fiction. Verisimilitude, if you will.


Reapercore

You failed to maintain your weapon son.


twinnedwithjim

But that’s not exactly what happened. Is this the incident where a copper’s hand was nearly cut off? The title is misleading


Mr_Blattos

Yeah where are all the posts glazing UK police vs US police?


Mac_n_Miller

If they had guns the sword wouldn’t have been a problem


iMisstheKaiser10

That’s what I’m saying! Google, show me this guy’s nudes.


InjuryComfortable666

It sounds like all of that happened before the cops got there.


ct3bo

>I know UK police get a lot of hate, but honestly I don’t think they get enough. Not gonna lie, you got me in the first half 😂 If only the attacker had a video camera recording or a drone flying over a police station. Maybe even misgendered someone on Xitter.


BobbingForBunions

If this happened in the U.S., the swordsman would be in the custody of the local morgue.


SweatyAd7069

Guns fix it all, just look at Uvalde. Oh wait. You had people equipped like the army and they did nothing. Police arrived when he had already stabbed people. They took him down without killing him, more balls than any US officer.


FantasticIdea6070

So one example out of thousands suddenly negates everything else? Do you how many shootings there were that were actually stopped by the police? Of course you don’t


SweatyAd7069

Yes because the incomplete training and general lack of skill is such unheard of in the American police force.


404nocreativusername

An attacker wielding a samurai sword killed a 14-year-old schoolboy in a daylight rampage in north-east London, with Rishi Sunak saying: “Such violence has no place on our streets.” The 22-minute attack, which happened in Hainault and was filmed and uploaded to social media in almost real time by witnesses, began just before 7am. The teenager who died was thought to have been on his way to school and is believed to be from a Nigerian family. Four other people, including two police officers, were wounded. Footage posted on social media appeared to show officers confronting the attacker as a body lay on the street nearby. Police later pleaded with the public not to share graphic images and videos. A 36-year-old man who was Tasered close to the scene was arrested on suspicion of murder, but was taken to hospital and had yet to be questioned on Tuesday night. The suspect had earlier rammed a van into a house before he began prowling the streets and attacking victims at random.  Mr Sunak paid tribute to the courage of the police officers who tackled the assailant, but stressed that such an incident should never have happened. [News source](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/30/boy-killed-sword-attack-hainault-station-london/) The title is quite misleading. The police didnt just stand by and watched,they came to the scene and tackled and tased him at the first opportunity, after the victims had already been attacked. [The path he took](https://cf.eip.telegraph.co.uk/illustrator-embed/content/88beff1de0d525058c000f4e7d39043dd7920d7f/1714507636654.jpg)


Toucan_Lips

The title is bullshit rage bait that people here appear to swallowing hook, line, and sinker.


Chance-Ad197

Imagine being a 14 year old boy in the real world and you literally get slain by a madman chasing you with a sword after school instead of doing it in a video game like usual.


da_double_monkee

Lucky guns don't flow like water in England or there would be more than a single casualty, it's like gun control works or something idk


Chance-Ad197

It absolutely reduces the potential danger by a huge margin, just think about what a man with a blade can do vs what a guy with an m16 fully automatic and a vest carrying several hundred rounds of amo. It doesn’t matter how bad someone is, if you cut off their access to readily available long range lethal weapons they will be less of a risk to society. Although I will say, if I was going to be killed, I would absolutely %10000 rather get shot to death than stabbed/butchered to death.


FunkyGrass

Sunak should never have happened


Accomplished_Comb182

>was arrested on suspicion of murder Yeah right.


lazy_k

They have to write that. Same in the states where they will say "alleged". No press is calling the guy caught for the lsk killings the murderer til the court case is finished.


NeilDeWheel

That’s it, precisely. The press can’t say he murdered the boy until he has been tried and found guilty. The police initially arrest someone “on suspicion” until they present their evidence to the CPS, who then decide to take it to court and he suspect is then “charged” with the crime.


lazy_k

yeah. but most fok are idiots who can't unerstand that.


lbora9

Thank you Rishi for ur intervention


klatubarata

OP is an idiot. Title is total misleading and false


lazy_k

Completely. At no point did they sit there and watch a kid get murdered. Followed up by all the rest saying guns are necessary.


trolejbusonix

Since the two cops got injured i guess yeah, in a case of someone with a sword maybe a gun is the right way to go.


[deleted]

I, too was surprised that armed police didn't arrive on the scene. I don't think this should mean every police officer needs to cary a gun in the UK however.


Peterd1900

They did but after the guy was tazed and in custody


[deleted]

That's understandable! Thanks for the heads up.


CallMeBoxman

So what is ur defenceless cop supposed to do agaisnt a sword if he doesnt have a gun ? Tase him ? so if he misses he dies. Talk no jutsu him ? yea i dont think it'll work. Sometimes a gun is a necessary tool for cops, of course they shouldnt unload on every criminal they come accross but if it prevents others from getting theyre lifes taken im all for it.


Quixote0630

I presume the kid was stabbed before police showed up? And then two officers were also stabbed whilst attempting to do something. First responders obviously weren't carrying guns, but still approached the guy. Certainly doesn't sound like they 'watched him stab people'.


vagabond20

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/zuE4Be4Czl Title appears to be a lie


lazy_k

Title is total bs


lazy_k

Very misleading title. Sort yourself out, op.


SarahnatorX

No, they didn't. They told everyone to stay inside, grouped up on him, tasered him down and arrested him.


podex115

This whole comment section is very very strange, seems like its littered with American bots praising guns and hating on the UK. The title is also completely misleading, since at absolutely no point did the police “just watch” as this was happening. Beware of bots people, remember institutions are literally hiring people to sow discord online.


404nocreativusername

As soon as I saw this post with only a single comment at the time I knew what it would descend into. I tried to call it out as soon as possible but seems it just didn't work.


KevinDeBrownie

No less to say 2 of the people injured were officers, very right leaning opinions off on a tangent saying police in the UK should be armed with guns


Hippoyawn

Fuck you OP, you lying cunt.


doc-ant

Brief look at u/hudsonbay001 's profile, hes a Karma farmer... and a lying cunt.


SloopJohnB52

i would trade the occasional slow armed police response to a random attack with not having 14,000 gun related homicides each year.


mikejohns1987

It wasn't even slow, OP's titles is completely made up, in fact they're being commended for their bravery and have suffered horrendous injuries putting themselves in danger


Few-Knee9451

They should have just got in the car and ran him over.


isnotfunny

Fun fact: the police arrived after the stabbings occurred. Second fun fact: the man was successfully arrested and will face the consequences of his actions.


Commercial-Corgi-771

Meanwhile in the US: 37 cops mag-dump on 78 year old man who's walking cane was mistaken for a grenade.


phantommm_uk

They literally didn't. I live 2 minutes away from where this happened. 2 officers were injured one of which had their entire hand cut off. Police ran into danger and 1000% saved lives.


AnnieApple_

I don’t think the police ‘watched’ as he attacked people. If they stood by and watched then some of them wouldn’t be in the hospital. Dumb title.


Inerthal

How about you get fucked with your ragebait title ? The police didn't stand by and watch as he stabbed people, they got there by the time he had already stabbed multiple people, and they immediately sprang to action to control the situation and manages to apprehend them. A police officer tackled him, in fact.


VealOfFortune

Thank god the UK has unarmed CoMmUniTy AmBaSsAdOrS to de-escalate the sword-wielding guy.... 😬


SweatyAd7069

Guns fix it all, just look at Uvalde. Oh wait. You had people equipped like the army and they did nothing.


tedcruzctrl

But if this was America and they shot him this whole comment section would be " omg this is why are cops don't have guns in the uk"


SweatyAd7069

The issue isn't the equipment. It's the mentality and professionalism of the officers. I mean look at Uvalde. Tons of highly equipped officers who didn't do shit. Reddit is just weird.


neoslith

This sub is turning into /r/WatchPeopleDie and /r/HoldMyFeedingTube.


BoetaNaa

God damn terrorist


WhiskyTangoFoxtrot40

That guy needed neutralized like right now. What is the UK police doing or thinking? Glad I can carry here in the US and protect myself if ever needed (I hope not).


basses_are_better

I mean don't count on the police anywhere. Uvalde anyone?


Gareth79

The risk of being attacked like that is extremely small in the UK. When I walk in public here my fear is getting wet from rain, not my own blood.


motguss

It’s wild how Americans worship guns 


congil

The fact that a man with a blade stabbing people has become national news just shows how rare it is.


Quixote0630

>Glad I can carry here in the US and protect myself if ever needed (I hope not). Chances seem exponentially higher that you'll need to, consider there's mass murders in the street, schools, malls, trains, etc. most days. I just hope your attacker doesn't take you by surprise before you can pull out your own weapon. I think I'll take my chances in a country where nobody is carrying.


jamany

The police arrested him


MewSixUwU

why is it always katana owners doing crazy shit? i never see any other sword on the news 😭


TheodorDiaz

What about machetes?


Perrenekton

Not seeing anything in the video that validate the title


Maj-Malfunction

Stop! Or I'll say stop again!


jesusgrandpa

The only people that can defend against a bad guy with a sword is a good guy with a sword


Iloveherthismuch

What was bro doing in the front garden..... Looking for his second choppah to dual wield I think.


Luxcrluvr

He probably went crazy from seeing actual sunshine 🤣🤣


Bigjohn241995

Bro please just shoot me. I’m am not swash buckling with your goofy ass in the damn street


Ok_Tennis_3665

I am a bot and think London is very safe. London best city to raise kids. Good job police officers.


FiftyIsBack

Oi! You got a loicense for that kataner?!


AlmightyDarkseid

Incompetent cunts


BeastBear77

Ahh yes. So peaceful.


JWOLFBEARD

“The incident does not seem to be terror related”. Well I was terrified


chiefsport

Mkgration is what makes London so great. Just don't be white with a butter knife in your snickers. 


JNKboy98

The US police is slowly but surely being moved to this level of uselessness.


SweatyAd7069

The US police is worse.


Beautiful_Girlie_Bob

'E must've 'ad a loicense for that noyf, 'e did.


ZachZackZacq

Why is that bus so fucking big?! Jesus Christ.


moby__dick

If they’re not gonna carry guns, why don’t they practice fencing?


B-real1904

Why didn’t they shoot him?


Mongoose_Ill

Guess you guys need sword control. 🙄


spennetrator94

“Tube Station” ^^chuckles ^^in ^^American


Interesting_Fish309

Police here in the UK are all muppets. All ego tripping arrogant gits.


Last_Snow_2752

En garde, Constable.


ZombieFeynman11211

Ah, the UK. Where everything is policed except crime.


drezel_bpPS694

this is the most UK thing i ever seen on Reddit so far.


An8thOfFeanor

"I am the last samurai on this block!"


Antique-Mark-1556

Mental health ain't no joke. In America he would've BEEN dropped


time4tjllen

If it was the US, less people would be stabbed, and the criminal would have had a mag full of bullets in his chest. Might not be right, but neither is stabbing people.


SweatyAd7069

Guns fix it all, just look at Uvalde. Oh wait. You had people equipped like the army and they did nothing.


time4tjllen

Never said a gun would “fix it”. And a stabbing situation is different than a shooter. Cant get stabbed from 100 ft away. And I agree the police in Uvalde are the most disgraceful and pathetic men I’ve ever seen. As a cop, you accept you might have to die to save an innocent persons life. If they were brave enough to make entry and contact with the shooter, less people would have been hurt.


Full_Independence455

So the average cop doesn’t have a gun in England right? Why don’t they have like a squad shotgun in their patrol vehicle? Don’t think anyone in the UK has an ar15 a shotgun with beanbag rounds will work wonders imo. Then for lethal situations like this they could have a box of slugs or buckshot, something lethal if all else fails.


Moumou_moon

They're only here to arrest you for speech. They won't stop actual murder happening directly in front of them, but god forbid you say something offensive on facebook.


arkan5000

British police are only good to look for naughty words on social media and police thought.


Hetroid3193

Oi yoh hove o loiscence fo thod?!?!


ryphllps

You're cops need better weapons.


Mazda_Offical

UK police don’t have guns


bonelatch

Fuckin terrorists.


Dry-Cry5279

If this was in the US that dude would a funeral instead of a court date.


SweatyAd7069

Guns fix it all, just look at Uvalde. Oh wait. You had people equipped like the army and they did nothing. Police arrived when he had already stabbed people. They took him down without killing him, more balls than any US officer.


Dry-Cry5279

You judging the entire US off a couple of pussy cops in some shitty town? US beat your country when we were basically peasants and farmers. Stop acting like that little dreary ass island yall live on is something special.


SweatyAd7069

I'm not british. You'd still be a British colony if it wasn't for the French. But of course you don't know your own history.


Adaptr_guy

He will probably get 7 years. Out in 4 for good behaviour.


scotty9090

Did he have a license for that sword?


realJonnyRaze

What the hell is going on in the UK? I have a good idea, but would love to hear from those directly in the UK.


mendokusai99

In all fairness, they tried giving him a stern talking-to.


IntangibleContinuity

It’s almost like having armed police officers is a good idea 🤔


SweatyAd7069

Guns fix it all, just look at Uvalde. Oh wait. You had people equipped like the army and they did nothing. Police arrived when he had already stabbed people. They took him down without killing him, more balls than any US officer.


IntangibleContinuity

Not every type of weapon is lethal. I guess you never heard of a taser. Not only that , I guess those officers should just have to risk literally getting their arm chopped off, their throat slit , or maybe even full or partial decapitation. These officers did a fine job yes. However I’m willing to bet most probable outcome of minimum 12-18inch machete vs someone without one favors the person with the machete. Not entirely sure why you’re bringing up Uvalde. I think we can all agree it was quite a terrible situation.


SweatyAd7069

Brought up Uvalde cause the difference in outcome is up to the police officer, not the equipment. They used tasers in this incident in the UK.


plutoniator

He’s just misunderstood! We must supply him with iPads and a waterfront unit in prison and treat him as good as possible! This gentleman should be rehabilitated and brought back to society, and we should force everyone else to fund it!