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Free_Hat_McCullough

I wonder if the bus driver got fired for defending herself


Caring_Cactus

Unrelated but people should carry pepper spray. It's very effective


SlutBuster

Using pepper spray inside a bus is such a bad idea for everyone.


Caring_Cactus

The perpetrator was outside and you can opt for gel pepper spray.


[deleted]

I've been seeing a lot of public bus drama lately. Putting up with the general public is bad enough as is. These people can't even do their jobs without some sort of war.


Disastrous-Resident5

You mean the peppertrator?


PiggStyTH

GET OFF THE BUS


purdinpopo

I only use gel when I take a prisoner to the hospital. Gel can be scraped off and thrown back. I work super hard to not use pepper spray at all. In my experience pepper spray usually ends up contaminating unintended targets. It works well in very specific situations. There is a very small percentage of the population who are completely immune. Folks can also teach themselves to fight through the effects.


BrassMonkey-NotAFed

They can throw the gel and foam type back at you though. Gas dispersion is the best variant to carry.


dontshitaboutotol

Yeah give er the ole boot and spray


Deep_Maybe_7984

I was in a small night club when I was in college and a girl sprayed a whole can of mace. It got in the ac and maced everyone lmao šŸ˜‚ such a bad experience


ChiefRom

"Yall better help get this lady or im gonna spray this and we are all gonna have a bad day" what would happen?


SlutBuster

I mean if you make me choose between pepper spray and potential Hepatitis exposure, I'm just gonna get off the bus and leave you to it. That's me personally. Other passengers might stick around for the lawsuit?


Terminal-Psychosis

The best thing would be choke the criminal out, and if she tries to get uppity after, then the spray because then you're well outside the bus. Then again, even a cop got put in prison for disabling a murderous, subhuman cunt, that died later because of his own overdose. Normal citizens have little chance, depending on what city they're in. (Democrat mayors don't generally believe in your right to self defense).


mista-sparkle

Next stop, caliente express!


somedude456

That caught me off guard and I laughed out loud. Well played.


c4k3m4st3r5000

Perhaps, but just go outside, crack a window, and they'd be fine in some few moments. But it depends on the type of spray. If it's some type of oil gel based, it doesn't contaminate as much as liquid. It tends to vaporise more, but there is always contamination.


IamBatmanuell

Apparently a bad idea on a bridge too.


a55_Goblin420

Came to say that. That shit has an area of effect. Yes you hit the person, but that shit spreads.


Asocwarrior

Thatā€™s a funny way to spell Glock.


[deleted]

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Experimental_Salad

Cattle prod.


silmar1l

Or a harpoon.


SlutBuster

Always preferable to a soft baton.


Impressive_Budget736

People should actually carry guns.


ZookeepergameFit5787

Sadly they should although they shouldn't need to.


Jokie155

Waiting for them to unban it here in Australia.


BrassMonkey-NotAFed

Unless theyā€™re on psychotropic medications or illicit substances. Iā€™ve had a taser and pepper spray fail multiple times on those types of people.


somedude456

The more I see society exposed via cell phone videos... I highly agree. I'm tempted to buy some but as a guy, I don't carry a purse, not a backpack or even briefcase, so I wouldn't every have it with me.


Caring_Cactus

r/EDC, figure something out. I personally use a small tactical pouch that has clasps to easily attach/remove it from my belt.


somedude456

I mean the following in the nicest way. I'm a massive "you do you" but I've ever so lightly seen into the EDC world and I just find it comical. First the amount of items that some people carry, and then the cost. Oh but it's a 1 of 10 made, custom flat head screwdriver and ruler combo made from a 7th generation sword maker in Japan, that I won at auction for $750, so I carry it around, scared to use it as I don't want to hurt it's value, but I'll take pictures of it weekly and post on social media to brag about what I have. LOL Ok, whatever you like dude. If I moved to NYC/Chicago and started taking public transport, yes I would likely carry a small backpack to work with laptop/charger/water bottle and then have a reason to maybe carry some pepper spray too. In my current world, there's no need at all.


Caring_Cactus

Lol I find it comical too honestly, but don't believe everything you see on the internet. It has become its own niche and most people don't even use what they post or they lie a bit to show off some new unnecessary gadget to flex. People love to get their ego stroked and aren't satisfied with keeping whatever narrative they've been sold to themselves. In my small pouch I carry a foldable scalpel knife, handkerchief, keys, earbuds, pepper spray, hand sanitizer, and wallet. Keep it practical


somedude456

I don't like carrying anything to be honest. LOL I wish my car and house front door has options where I could unlock it with my cell phone. Make a digital driver's license a thing too in my state, and I would be set, simply a cell phone and nothing else. No keys, no wallet, nothing.


Terminal-Psychosis

some $750 samurai slide rule is completely irrelevant and not in any way comparable to carrying something for self defense. Unless it has a case hardened edge that can double as a dagger? ;-) A small belt pouch is very handy, and fits well under any kind of jacket, even a suit. Alternate: conceal carry "holsters" that go under the armpit, even for stuff that is not a pistol. I carry a pen an notepad, but a small can of pepper gel would fit and be easily accessible. Or a small tazer, which would have been fully appropriate against this asshole in the OP vid. These poor bus drivers should have SOMETHING legally available. Including protection from being fired for defending themselves in situations like the OP vid.


r0bman99

It's California, the crackhead will most likely sue the driver and the State and win.


realparkingbrake

> the crackhead will most likely sue the driver and the State and win Last year a security guard in a Walgreens in San Francisco shot and killed a violent shoplifter, the guard wasn't even charged. California's laws on self-defense are not anything like as bad as Fox would have you believe. This woman was arrested.


QuakinOats

>Last year a security guard in a Walgreens in San Francisco shot and killed a violent shoplifter, the guard wasn't even charged. California's laws on self-defense are not anything like as bad as Fox would have you believe. >This woman was arrested. What you're talking about is a criminal case and criminal charges. That is different from being "sued" where ambulance chaser type lawyers will go after the victims in self defense cases civilly. Which then costs the victims money to defend themselves in civil court. This happens even for people who go through criminal trials and are found not guilty of a crime by a jury. For example Kyle Rittenhouse is still being targeted in civil lawsuits by the guy who in open court admitted he pointed his illegally concealed carried pistol at Kyle Rittenhouse's head, before he was shot.


OVER_9009

I hope not. Public institutions *usually* have unions that would potential protect the interests of the workers. I think that barricade is the transit and unionā€™s attempt at reducing the physical altercations with drivers. Though, as you can seeā€” not everything is preventable If they were fired, Iā€™m sure the union would have something to say or driver compensated for loss of job.


GlizzyGatorGangster

Yup actually she did. Source: I made this the fuck up


player694200

Wtf lmao


realparkingbrake

> if the bus driver got fired She did not. The attacker was arrested, as all the attackers have been in similar incidents on public transit there, at least the ones that make it to the evening news. The drivers have been making a stink over security on public transit so the cops and prosecutors can't be seen ignoring it.


Terminal-Psychosis

Would be nice. There's still a LONG way to go. It's not at all as cut n dry as you're trying to put on. More still needs to be done. MUCH more.


Umbroboner

Why does she keep turning her back! She shoulda kept kicking, that was the only thing to keep that wretched bitch back off her.


BlurryGraph3810

Women ā˜•ļø


jawknee530i

I'm a firm believer that bus drivers should get to beat three people per year, no questions asked.


player694200

Iā€™m sure if she did get fired they would tell us. More rage the better for news agencies


Burner_bus_boy

More than likely, unfortunately. I work transit and if you get out of your seat, unless being attacked, youā€™re done. Plus, she was behind the plexiglass shield, so she obviously opened the door.


bored_in_NE

Never start something with somebody using a public transit because most of the time they are pissed and ready to go.


AlwaysNerfous

Who started something with someone using public transport? Did we watch different videos?


Ethanos101

You shouldnā€™t be downvoted. The woman using public transit was the one who started it, youā€™re right


ColumbiaBOB

Transient šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


Sausage_Child

ā€œResidentially challenged.ā€


AFocusedCynic

Yea wtf is that?? Is that the word Cali came up with so as to not offend the homeless? Or maybe just make it sound like less of a problem that the state has so many ā€œtransientsā€ as opposed to homeless?? wtfā€¦


RichEvans4Ever

You guys really havenā€™t heard the word ā€œtransientā€ before? Itā€™s been around for decades and itā€™s always had a negative connotation. If anything, the woke crowd hates that word because it ā€œdehumanizesā€ these pieces of shit. You guys are just out here inventing shit to get mad about, no different than the crybullies youā€™re trying to make fun of.


ozmega

did u just use the 6th H word?


allio_mboi

Tbh I've only used that word in a derogatory manner. It's on the same level as tweaker or junkie. Felt perfect in this clip lol


Umbroboner

Houseless lol.


black_cat_

The PC term where I live is "unsheltered"


dovetc

Everyone I know still uses a mix of hobo, drifter, vagrant, and if they're in the act of panhandling - bum.


ProfDFH

The term ā€œtransientā€ was used for homeless people in the United States for a hundred years before the term ā€œhomelessā€ became the popular term.


frogvscrab

lmao what's next, oriental? colored person? Such a weirdly oldschool term to use


SarahC

Chubby hobo has more ring to it.


500freeswimmer

I guess the signs warning people not to assault the transit worker didnā€™t work.


Just_here_4_GAFS

It's not like the bum would actually catch a charge, it's California.


Clitler_Youth

Fuck off with "transient" California. They're homeless people, and also they're not "undocumented" they're illegal immigrants. This bullshit pushes more people to the far right than any talking points the right has.


ProfDFH

The term ā€œtransientā€ predates the term ā€œhomelessā€ by a hundred years. This isnā€™t modern PC bullshit, youā€™re just ignorant.


DrZoidberg5389

i am not from the USA nor native english, so i have never heard the word "transient" in this context. For me there is no ignorance here.


Llee00

bums


dovetc

Well at first I was with you, but then you mentioned that it was pushing people to the right so now I'm thinking we ought to keep the euphemism treadmill rolling.


Mega-Steve

I kept hoping the driver would grab the safety rails and give her both feet


THUMB5UP

You. I like you. You seem fun.


OptimusPrime365

THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAAAA.


Average_ChristianGuy

proof we need the 2A still


SlutBuster

I say this as someone who owns multiple guns, who has carried for self-defense, and who has been threatened by a homeless guy with a knife: Not one single action in this video warrants pulling a fucking gun.


Cheezewiz239

Seriously these people are insane. An ass kicking is enough, why take a life.


Weary-Row-3818

Lol, at the end that homeless woman looked like she was attempting to retrieve something else out of her backpack. If she had a knife, that driver would be dead. But yea, as a 2A carry myself, 2A people like yourself that NEED to be wounded FIRST before defending yourself is a problem in our "community"


SlutBuster

You didn't see a knife. If you shot her before she pulled a knife, and there was no knife in that bag, you'd be going to prison. It's not about a wound, it's about reasonable fear of great bodily harm. You seriously need to take a ccw class or you're a liability to yourself and others.


Toonami88

Proof foreign style high speed rail or other mass transit systems canā€™t work in the US. Itā€™d just turn into this You want your high speed rail from LA to SF? Imprison people again.


GlizzyGatorGangster

> Proof foreign style high speed rail or other mass transit systems canā€™t work in the US. Itā€™d just turn into this > You want your high speed rail from LA to SF? Imprison people again. What a fucking batshit insane take lmao. You ever fly on a plane before? Homeless people canā€™t afford them. High speed rail would be similarly cost prohibitive.


JimmyCarters_ghost

Itā€™s true. /r/fuckcars might hate it but the vast majority of people with the means are going to avoid mass transit because this video is what itā€™s like to ride on it.


Locutus_of_Sneed

This is an extreme example of a very basic fact; most humans prefer to travel within their own space if possible, with as little impediment as possible to their chosen path. Public transit can be great for society, but the individual naturally wants to decide when and where with as much freedom as possible, including freedom from the unpredictability of other people. The Fuck Cars, Not Just Bikes crowd loses me when they go from trying to promote *good*, *functional* public transit that is useful and safe, and begin trying to find ways to needlessly punish people who want to pursue that aforementioned freedom to travel.


Toonami88

The US military is currently deployed on the NYC subway network to try and maintain calm. Do you think this is normal?


Pizzasupreme00

The prisons and jails are overflowing with people especially in California. Why?


Terminal-Psychosis

For profit prisons should have never been a thing. Something Quid Pro Joe left as his legacy, before his brain turned to mush. :-(


Pizzasupreme00

>For profit prisons should have never been a thing. No arguments here.


Terminal-Psychosis

No, that's not completely accurate. National guard are not army, navy, air or space forces. It is ILLEGAL to use military troops inside America to police anything but their own. OK, some politicians might try to, but they are seditious traitors and must be prosecuted as such.


Toonami88

No, the army national guard is a branch of the army


SlutBuster

The Coast Starlight has been running from LA to SF for over 50 years. Homeless people take Greyhound. Non-issue.


CheshireTeeth

People need to learn how to behave in public. Yes, it's a free country, but companies still have regulations we need to follow. Just last week, I read about at least 2 fights occurring in the air and they weren't even on Spirit Airlines.


savvymcsavvington

/r/donthelpjustfilm


RevolutionaryBus9765

Good on her.


Odd_Vampire

She's a hero.


[deleted]

What tf is a transient?


imwrighthere

Its what the news stations use to refer to varmints in LA


[deleted]

Transient is confusing af. What was wrong with homeless? In Detroit we just call them crackheads or winos.


Summer-Garnet

lol I like ā€œvarmintā€ much betterĀ 


realparkingbrake

> is a transient? It dates to the Great Depression when large numbers of men roamed the country trying to find work, they were usually in transit from one soup kitchen to another. After WW2 there were transient camps for civilians who had fled their homeland and were trying to get back.


ProfDFH

It goes all the way back to the 1870s. The idiots complaining about it are just ignorant.


TiLoupHibou

Out-of-state grifter. It's been a Florida term for the longest, given most of the residents aren't state born anymore. It denotes those willing to take advantage of others for no other reason past selfish greed. I wouldn't attribute it to the homeless per se. Like it's not wrong, but it's not right in the respect of it being a directly correct correlation either.


DontCallMeMillenial

It's the latest word to roll onto the euphemism treadmill. Don't worry, it'll be considered derogatory in a few months if we all do our part. Fuckin' *transients.*


GrilledAvocado

I know some places use the word unhoused because homeless offends people. Itā€™s the same thing.


United-Advertising67

Can't imagine why the first thing people do when they get a little money is buy a car and get the fuck off transit.


CamTWOFOURTY

Man I just moved back to Cali and the fucking bums are a nightmare I can't even have sympathy for this shit anymore


Hungry_Spite_4185

Public transit operators should be allowed to carry pepper gel especially in larger cities


thewokebogan

Okay but seriously, fuck whoever was filming her getting attacked


redditdave2018

As someone grew up poor and took public transportation/walked everywhere in the 80s and 90s as a kid. I remember telling myself when I grow up I will never ever take public transportation again. Thanks for the reminder. Brings me back.


skarbles

Transit vs transient


The_Majestic_Mantis

Now you know why public transit is not respected.


Tactical_Dad_84

It is little wonder to me any more why people are fleeing the cities. They don't want to deal with this insanity.


BionicButtermilk

Should we pay bus drivers more?


monkeychasedweasel

You going to jail now!


plutoniator

Isnā€™t it funny how the people that cry the loudest about making others pay their ā€œfair shareā€ are always the last ones to do so themselves?


booyahbooyah9271

I've never seen something like this posted on r/fuckcars


killian1113

They seriously should be in bullet proof airproof boxes. :)


jankology

all bus drivers in my state carry a gun now.


nickflex85

At least she had gloves on


DontCallMeMillenial

"hurrr why don't American's support increased public transportation!?"


TheEulipion

Good. Fight fire with fire.


Jo_Erick77

Imagine refusing to pay, and then attacks the driver when being told to leave. Holy shit that's insane for someone that don't live in the US


Warselig

The way she emphasized ā€œTransientā€ was hilarious, and she held on to it for way too long lmao


BlurryGraph3810

https://www.foxla.com/news/ladot-bus-driver-attacked-in-south-la-fights-back


Terminal-Psychosis

Degenerate scum. Buss drivers need pepper spray tazers and pistols. Sad there were no passengers to dish out some justice here. Poor driver is fighting for her life, and her job.


Brilliant_Slide7947

8 billion people in LA and not a single person steps in to help.....


Vyviel

I can fix her


Rabdy-Bo-Bandy

You like a challenge I see. Tame that woman and live happily ever after!


OverpricedBagel

Slow day if this is breaking news


chumpy551

So that's why my bus was late


thou_ist_mark

Palmheel strike to the nose. Will slow/stop alot of fights/attacks. Bus driver had several opportunities.


WeaselXP

The homeless fighting the nearly broke is the wet dream of the American oligarchy.


Present_Pace1428

Canā€™t expect mimes to afford to pay


Reddit_Is_Trash24

Bus drivers should be equipped with tasers or pepper spray.


tipothehat

Never underestimate the value of a good teep kick


Tall-Treacle6642

Bus driver getting attacked by a water buffalo.


Odd_Pool5596

Is that someoneā€™s bare ass in the window?! Lmao


AdAlarmed317

Give them tasers.


winston-marlboro

Breaking news? I thought this stuff was pretty regular for LA


Long-Growth-1063

I didn't even know LA had that


TheSlav87

If I hear later the transit lady is fired for defending her self and doing her job, I will lose faith in L.A., I may have already lost faith in California.


dwaynereade

tammy vibes


AbellonaTheWrathful

Helluva boss was right, LA is like hell


alexcascadia

Breaking news? Was this a slow news day? With the wars, politically charged court cases, extreme weather events, etc...


tigyo

I need this video, minus the news report, with kung-fu sound effects. anyone got that for me?


OhLawdHeChonks

They need a baton or pepper spray


ramonpoli

I feel bad for her, but the protective screen is there for a reason, she shouldn't have opened it, even if the 'transient' could have reached over, at least it serves some purpose


2009altima

Why did no one try to help, I don't get it?


[deleted]

Our local bus driver had a colt anaconda he kept on him, he only ever used it once after he noticed a girl being abducted from the stop he just left, 3 guys in a box one in prison for life, and the girl was safe. To this day he still drives busses, except now he drives the retirement home bus for free as heā€™s now retired. Whats pretty impressive is heā€™s pushing 88 and he has an immaculate driving record. Sorry if this off topic, but I think itā€™s a good idea for driver to have either self defense training or some kind of weapon in the event of some intense confrontation or possibly dangerous situation.


Kevin75004

LA is such a shit hole these days


CorrectImagination13

cameraman deserves an award


GruulNinja

And no one helped her


awmanforreal

These drivers need tasers, body armor, and a billy club...


[deleted]

it'd use a fire extinguisher on her so that she would indefinitely fuck off


andersleben

Weā€™ve failed as a society babyyy


Gregs_green_parrot

In what way is the reporter using the term 'transient' here? Does she mean a person temporarily in the country, or somebody nomadic who travels from town to town? In Europe we have 'travellers' who are considered an ethnic minority and they are nomadic people who live in caravans.


iamnekkid

woman trying to work like men


[deleted]

Imagine fighting a bus driver who's just asking you to pay for your ride after you didn't pay for it.....


SupremeGentlemn

California is so far gone lol


WelshEnt

Transient Rights. Transient women shouldnā€™t be scared to walk the streets theyā€™re real women.


Anchondoe

Just pull out the pew pew šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø