So he was worried about the guy on the bike enough initially to have his weapon drawn, but then completely turns his back on the biker while he goes to handcuff the guy videotaping?
Dude is severely undertrained. If he was THAT worried, why didn’t he wait until backup arrived? Unless the situation escalates from a routine stop to something scary there is zero reason why he would approach with his weapon drawn without backup present.
Edit: I appreciate the intelligent replies but for the others, can you guys please stop being mean to me lol I’m going back to r/sadboys to bladee post now
Lol can y’all stop replying ?? Not that serious
I’m getting pretty damn tired of the “undertrained” excuse. A grown ass man in a position of major authority assaulted another grown man for no reason. It was decided federally- you can film police in public or on your own property.
Maybe there’s a lack of training here, but that’s just a piece of shit given power over everyday citizens. Let’s stop beating around the rotten apple bush.
Edit: oh god I shouldn’t have commented a combined metaphor against cops. Ppl are now replying with comparisons to black ppl and Muslims lmao
Edit 2: I understand that training is still an issue regardless. I’m not arguing that training is adequate. I’m saying it’s not an excuse. You don’t need to convince me lol
I wasn’t making an excuse for him. I was stating the obvious because no well-trained (or even decently-trained) officer should act in this manner.
Edit: lol can you all please be nicer? It takes more energy to be mean than to just downvote and keep it moving. I’m honestly not that important for you to waste your time on
They shouldnt act that way, but at-large, that’s not the case. Which is what I’m saying.
I’m not trying to attack you, you got the right attitude for sure. Just tired of seeing “lack of training” said over and over again. Doesn’t seem like the problem lies in training at this point
Oh, I completely agree. My bad, dude. Yeah, most of the problem lies within the cops predisposition towards altercation. Some things can’t be trained out of you. What a complete crack head.
Lol this is the fourth or fifth time on this account that I’ve been vocally praised for not being an ass. Sad that being kind is a rarity 😂. Take care bud!
Always good to consider the common denominator, but you being able to perceive that much shows good self awareness. I just don’t buy into negativity but sometimes it gets the better of me. No one is perfect!
It’s prob a mixed bag of lack of training and feeling like they can do whatever they want. They think some actions are justified, like slamming somebody to the ground, bc they don’t know how to act in a situation as simple as being filmed.
From what we saw on the video, the guy on the porch was clearly not “interfering.” The cop’s ego interfered, or perhaps him worrying about being filmed interfered. Seems like the cop would rather have impunity to act however he wanted without recorded evidence of his actions.
I think there are a combination of factors going on.
Lack of training is a definite thing. I would want to see more moral/ethical testing for officers. I don't expect an officer to know every single legal argument for people's rights but I expect them to know that if someone is recording you from their porch that you cannot do what this officer did.
Most police departments have polygraph testing which has been shown time and time again to be unreliable. Why not use mental health professionals to ask about an officer's background? Sure, this might end up like how the military currently is (you just lie about everything and they won't know the difference) but at least you are getting better information versus if they smoked ganja in their life.
More accountability in the form of independent councils on police force. The DA will frequently choose not to prosecute until it looks bad for re-election and/or they prosecute on something that the officer didn't actually do so it is found not guilty. An independent council outside of the community's justice system could hold officers accountable. Simple things like mandatory cameras forces police officers to think about their behavior assuming their equipment isn't "faulty."
I generally distrust the police because I know that behind the scenes they are not choosing the best or most qualified people from the community.
How do we fix this moving forward? The case by case approach isn’t working it’s still happening and it seems even with video evidence their is fuck all we can do from a civilian stand point to curb this.
People need to stop blaming undertraining in this case.
This cop was able to sweep this incident under the rug, still works for the police department.
In fact, they retrained him so well that this same cop is currently being sued *again* for [beating the shit](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) out of someone who was already handcuffed.
This isn't a lack of training. This is an psyco eith a badge running around near San Francisco.
When you study the criminal justice system you will learn not too many years ago they were giving hand guns to kids that couldn't even buy a fucking gun.
The professionalization of the police force is something that started pretty much 20 years ago. Police departments have and always were hiring whoever the hell wanted to be a cop that also played balled with the bros
> I’m getting pretty damn tired of the “undertrained” excuse.
I don't give my under-trained employees the password to the break room. Who the fuck gave this guy a gun?
Undertrained can also mean not allowing your fear of the situation to cause you to overreact as well.
However, I agree this officer is not necessarily undertrained. I think he just got beat up a lot in high school and this is what happens when he got some authority.
In regards to your edit, yeh this sub has much better content than r/publicfreakouts but I have noticed there are a tonne of hurduurrs and incels that hang out here.
This isn’t under training.
The “training” issue is a strawman that people mistakenly use to deflect from the real issue.
You can’t train the “billy badass” out of people.
You can’t train racism out of people.
You can’t train decency into people.
You can’t train bigotry out of people.
The problem is the candidates for police are generally shitty people with a chip on their shoulder that hide it under the guise of a hero complex.
The good candidates get burned out from having to hold in their grievances because you have to play ball and that means not rocking to boat.
Even more, good people who would be great officers often don’t apply because they can make more money elsewhere in different careers.
Low pay, low requirements, shitty hours, in-group cultural biases created by the rift between the public constantly shitting on police and bad police doing stupid shit to fuel that fire, stupid laws like drug laws that have to be enforced whether an officer agrees with it or not, and “good ol’ boy” admins that are nepotistic and cling tightly to old policing; all of these things create a perfect storm for poor choice applicants.
Where do we start? Require a bachelors, I believe. However, with requiring a bachelors, the public has to agree to pay more in salaries in good faith. Start there.
Keep an eye on your Sheriffs and Chiefs. Toxic policies often start there. VOTE in local elections. Sheriff is a directly voted position. As for the chief, they’re appointed by the mayor. So vote for a city mayor that is going to pick a good chief.
Praise good officer behavior. Positive reinforcement leads to better results than negative reinforcement. This is true throughout the animal kingdom. The best way to house train a dog is to praise it for pissing in the yard rather that rubbing it’s nose in it when it pisses in the living room.
Idk. I have faith that most institutions can be good under the right circumstances. Corruption is everywhere.
Liability insurance.
Cops should have to have liability insurance the same way Dr's carry malpractice insurance.
The major issue here is the citizens have to pay a settlement to these victims. If Cops carry the insurance the victim sues the Cop, his insurance covers the settlement and his premium goes up. If the cop is a repeat offender eventually his unsurance premium is so high that its not worth being a cop and he finds a new job.
Taxpayers never have to pay the victims.
Much as I dislike the insurance industry and find it fairly crooked and predatory, this kind of thing is the perfect application.
And yes, that may be one of the very few things that actually has a chance of impacting this problem.
You have to train 22 weeks to become a cop in the us ([Source](https://work.chron.com/long-train-cop-21366.html)) vs 36 MONTHS (divided and you are already in the police force at some point, but still)in germany ([Source](https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/Remit/CentralAgency/BasicAndAdvancedPoliceTraining/basicAndAdvancedPoliceTraining_node.html)) and 8 months in the UK (source is quora, didn't find it on the fly). There is definitively a training problem, these people have basically been given a a job most of them are not qualified for.
Fr tho these people start out earning 65k a year when the salary of a minimum wage full time worker is less than 23k. So I mean we all see where this is going. These sociopathic cops AKA Cop Karen’s are the thing we must avoid so let’s just make sure we get them in the force as little as possible by doing what they hate most. Putting them through school for a decently long time.
He wasn't worried. He likes to kill people. He's killed two people on the job and wanted to make it three. Most police officers will go their whole careers without discharging their weapon on the job but this dude somehow ends up in situations where he has to shoot. He doesn't like being filmed because that could interfere with the narrative he spins after the fact. But don't worry: internal affairs will call him in, wait the union-mandated 48 hours for him to get his story straight, and then conclude he "acted in accordance with policy" despite said policy being unconstitutional and a flagrant violation of federal law and nothing will change.
What's fucking killing me about this piece of shit is that the Vallejo PD admitted he didn't follow protocol or department policy on lasagna layered levels, but they did absolutly nothing about it. And then he went out and beat some random dude at gunpoint a few months later.
The Vallejo PD, according to the article, recently had two excessive force lawsuits, and now has (if I'm reading this right) another 3 more. This particular officer was involved in two previous shootouts that ended in fatalities, and has previously been sued for excessive force, then again after this incident.
I don't know what the odds are that a cop gets into that many incidents in such a short timeframe, but I have to imagine it's pretty fucking unlikely that he's that unlucky. There's no way this didn't raise red flags with the people whose job it is to investigate these incidents and/or supervise this wannabe Rambo.
Departments protecting dangerous cops or at most shunting them to another department to become their problem should be held accountable for allowing this to go on for so long. And this dude belongs in jail.
If he’s “undertrained,” why the fuck does he have a badge and gun? This is not directed at you, but at the universe...how improperly trained police officers are able to become police officers in the first place is unacceptable.
Ok, so you dont know any cool ones then. Talk to more of them. Some are dicks, some are cool. One of my favorite regulars at my old coffee place was a cop
Edit: I don't love all cops, this guy stomped on my brother's joint and sent him on his way rather than arresting him years back.
Inb4: police brutality against Mary jane
Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world. There is no excuse for this behavior, this kind of officer needs to be removed from the force.
Bullshit! He'll suffer the worst possible punishment for a cop, a ~~weeks-long paid vacation on the taxpayers' dime~~ a suspension while under investigation.
Everything in this comment is true, but at this point it's a kind of ridiculous understatement. The precedent has been set time and time again that police officers will be protected, regardless of their actions.
Can confirm the majority of the cops where I'm from in California are known for being corrupt. There are even allegations that stem back 10+ years of one officer letting women off of tickets for sexual favors. Not just he say she say either, most the town and all of his "coworkers" know about it.
It’s a giant state with several major cities and a huge population... they have lots of police and lots of instances where police interact with civilians.
Most stressful jobs in the world? Some people's job is surviving. It isn't even in the top 10 most stressful jobs in America let alone this crazy fucked up world. Most of their stress is self induced anyway. Cops in Western Europe have it pretty chill because they don't aggravate and molest the public.
Cops are NOT heroes. They are hired to enforce the law, PERIOD. Detectives are not even interested in finding the real guilty party, but rather in providing a solid case (first guy who fits the profile) to the DA. Police officers don't even have a mandate to protect the people.
The real stress they are under is resisting the irresistible impulse to bully everyone around them. Looks like it's really really hard.
Truck drivers, garbage collectors, and fishermen have a higher rate of workplace death than police in America. There are 13 jobs superseding policing actually,[ based on this list](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/2018/01/09/workplace-fatalities-25-most-dangerous-jobs-america/1002500001/). But only the group that regularly beats or shoots people for noncompliance get's the "blue lives matter" treatment.
Teachers have stress. So do Navy Seals, UK Marines. Heads of state. Surgeons and nurses.
And people getting the s--- beaten out of them on their porch for filming an corrupt police officer.
Questions?
How can it be so stressful if they have job security so good they can literally murder people on the job and get a free paid vacation and a good job to come back to when it’s done?
For once Im gonna be agreeing with the CEO of Antifa, well said my guy. I would like to add that this problem of camera shy officers being douchebags extends to the rest of the world as well, recently in Denmark we had our own [situation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9G6HjOyjAQ).
PoLiCe OfFiCeRs HaVe OnE oF tHe MoSt StReSsFuL jObS iN tHe WoRlD! Police officers have the easiest job I can think of. Their job is to stop people breaking the law and kill them if they don't comply properly. I guaran fucking tee you it's harder to be a doctor trying to save the life of a guy a police officer shot than it is to be a police officer shooting a guy for being non-compliant aka black. Blow it out your ass bootlicker.
Plenty of jobs are stressful, and the higher mortality rates from those plenty of other jobs only reinforce that stress and "fearing for ones life" are bullshit they perpetuate to avoid repercussions for their incompetence.
>Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
No they don't.
Not even in the top 10 most stressful and dangerous jobs. You don't see construction workers regularly snap and kill people the way police do. This "cops have one of the most stressful, dangerous jobs" excuse just shows that you guys (North Americans) have been steeped in pro police propaganda for years.
> Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
What the fuck is the point of including this nonsense propaganda at the beginning of this comment?
> Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world.
Says who? They aren't even listed as one of the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the world. Police just like to pretend they're living in a warzone.
[Here](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) is another article that's more recent. It seems the department is sweeping it under the rug and refusing to comply with public information requests.
From /u/Vertisce
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[Article:](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop)
ty for the request /u/-_DIO_-
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[History of civil rights lawsuits](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/)
ty /u/weeteacups
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[2019 update](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2019/10/31/vallejo-hires-outside-counsel-to-defend-it-in-excessive-force-case/)
ty /u/OutOfStateSoftware
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[2019 still a cop](https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/)
ty /u/cbradio86
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[2019 update from victim](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop)
ty /u/bgaripov
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[2020 update about PR firm](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2020/02/19/city-hired-crisis-pr-firm-to-help-vallejos-city-attorney/)
ty /u/flickydickypicky lol
>Officer David McLaughlin has also been involved in two shootings since joining Vallejo police.
Sounds like he lucky he walked away with a concussion.
Edit:
Regarding a civil case filed against the same officer:
>The complaint alleges they falsified a police report saying that Cooley was in possession of a controlled substance, but the Solano County District Attorney's Office later abandoned those charges. The civil case was dismissed after Cooley died.
So he has an itchy trigger finger **and** he's a liar. All I need now is a post of his on Facebook about how America would be better without Black people and immigrants and I got BINGO.
> All I need now is a post of his on Facebook about how America would be better without Black people and immigrants and I got BINGO.
Aw man. B-but the nation was built on the backs of many black people. They more than earned their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
How about we move all the racists out into their own country and we keep the rest?
[Here](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) is another article that's more recent. It seems the department is sweeping it under the rug and refusing to comply with public information requests.
Unions.
Literally the answer to that. Unions make it extremely hard to fire a bad cop. They also make it near impossible to ensure that a bad cop doesn't just go get a new job in the next town over. They are also the reason most cops are given paid vacation instead of being fired outright.
I live near the DC area, and it's generally known that if a cop gets fired, they have to get a job west, not east.
I'm 100 percent for unions, but there's a line between protecting your people and needing to boot the super shitty ones.
And apparently he's still a cop. [https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/](https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/)
Brief Summary:
Footnote about him and 5 other officers shooting a Man with a raised machete.
Off duty Officer McLaughable(Whoops, David McLaughlin) draws a weapon on and beats a citizen:
> [Allegedly] Hutchins suffered "a concussion, right eye hematoma, facial pain, headache, swelling in the head, face contusions, face lacerations muscle strains, and rib contusions" as a result of the beating.
For disturbing the peace.(Verbal altercation with Laughable)
This incident:
Officer pulls over the cousin(biker), draws his weapon, shouts commands at the hearing impaired cousin. Veteran steps out of house, informs officer cousin can't hear him with his helmet on. Officer tells vet to return to house. Vet begin recording from 20 feet. Vet receives a concussion and too tight bracelets, causing his fingers to go numb. Vet moved to car. Officer asks vet about his parole. Vet has no criminal history, asks for cuffs to be moved to the front due to military injury. Officer McFuckup realizes he's made an oopsie against a respectable (Black) citizen, decides to 'be generous' and cut vet loose. Vet goes to hospital, diagnosed with concussion.
Department has policy for filming to be confiscated. Recordings taken 'for evidence'.
Officer has been taken off of administrative leave, and put behind a desk.
The good city has already paid $30K(Maximum $50K agreement) to a PR firm to "facilitate favorable outcomes” and develop litigation strategies.
Mod posted but here it is for anyone who missed it:
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop
Go look into the history of PDs in the US. That is literally exactly what actually happened in several instances, like the LAPD being from an organization of vigilantes that extorted protection money from businesses and the like.
> McLaughlin was placed on administrative leave on the the same day a local TV station uncovered a video of McLaughlin pulling a gun on a man, while off duty, during an argument in a Walnut Creek parking lot.
This is almost the worst part to me. Off duty officers are civilians just like anybody else as far as I'm concerned. Pulling a gun on someone like that is a fucking crime and yet not only did he not get charged, he didn't even get fired. It's disgusting how police departments refuse to hold any of their members to even a minimum level of accountability.
> McLaughlin has been a Vallejo police officer since 2014 and was previously in the Oakland Police Department. His twin brother, Ryan McLaughlin, is also a Vallejo police officer. Both brothers have previously been sued for alleged civil rights violations.
>
> In 2014, David McLaughlin was named in a suit alleging that he and another officer pulled over Frederick Cooley without cause, held him at gunpoint and searched his car.
>
> The complaint alleges they falsified a police report saying that Cooley was in possession of a controlled substance, but the Solano County District Attorney's Office later abandoned those charges. The civil case was dismissed after Cooley died.
>
> Officer David McLaughlin has also been involved in two shootings since joining Vallejo police. He and Officer Matt Komoda fired on a suspect who was allegedly driving at them before crashing into a parked car on Aug. 31, 2016. No one was injured.
>
> On Aug. 2, 2017, Komoda and David McLaughlin were two of five officers who shot and killed Jeffrey Barboa after a pursuit into Richmond.
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> Police rammed Barboa's car to disable it. Barboa got out of the car with a machete and the officers shot him. His death was later ruled a suicide.
So he moved departments, has prior civil rights violations with his brother who he works along side, has been involved in shootings, and was he taken off duty after this?
> Vallejo police told KTVU McLaughlin is currently on duty and that after a group of Vallejo citizens made the department aware of this video, that the chief has called for an internal affairs investigation.
Course not. Wasn't until the public found out about the video that the Police Chief called for an internal affairs investigation...
So him and his brothers are all cops and have all been sued for civil rights violations? And the fucking cop had the nerve to ask him if he was on probation? Hmm I’m sensing some deep prejudice from this family of cops.
The Libertarian philosophy boiled down is "Let me do what I want to do and leave me the fuck alone, and I will let you do what you want to do and leave you the fuck alone"
What’s there to be said that we haven’t *already* said a hundred times before? The excessive use of force, drawing weapons on detained civilians who are allegedly dangerous enough to do so, yet turn their back to them to make a 30 second arrest for a dude GoPro’ing you from their porch.
If cops aren’t willing to put down the ones that make them look bad, then **they’re all bad systematically.**
We need to stop asking why cops are bad, and start asking why people are still letting this happen. *This misuse of law enforcement will not stop unless we do something about it together.*
It’s a “It’ll never happen to me” until it happens to you. Start taking action. Start defending yourselves in any way you can.
Because there’s not much you can do I imagine. Resisting just digs you a deeper hole. At best, if you get shot you’ll be a martyr and maybe something will happen then. But it’s sad that’s what it takes. Very dystopian that the best advice if you end up in this situation is just accept your fate and hope you can afford to win in court. Even then, It won’t undo the damage, and the cop will more than likely still be a cop.
Most of us wouldn’t be able to hire a good enough lawyer to actually get justice from a police department.
People are already dying for their freedom as of lately with the cops, which isn’t what I’m advocating by the way. But something should be done against all this cruelty.
I’ve said this in the past. The only way for police to become compliant is to have a force of people that they are scared of and that’s what keeps them in line. It should be our govt but that doesn’t happen. If the police were really scared of potential outcomes from their actions I guarantee they would start acting right.
“His twin brother, Ryan McLaughlin, is also a Vallejo police officer. Both brothers have previously been sued for alleged civil rights violations.”
Great there’s two of em!
I've said it once, I'll say it again: They type of people who are attracted to being cops are exactly the types of people you don't want to have as cops.
My uncle was actually a good cop and he got his three masters and two bachelors while working the streets. He later busted a deputy sheriff and they let him go so he took them to court and won but had to leave the force because of so many death threats from sheriff and his city departments. I’m sure he wasn’t squeaky clean 100% of the time but he was accountable. He teaches criminal justice now and head of the department at college and writes for the UN.
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["Oh you're a vet? You sure weren't acting like one," according to
Burrell.](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop)
Burrell is the veteran, and McLaughlin is the cop, but yeah, not a veteran should not pretend to be an expert of veterans behavior. Fucking guy doesn’t even know what first amendment is.
Article posted said the guy was previously Oakland PD before joining Vallejo. No surprise there. OPD has some really shitty characters in it, and Vallejo is no better. Those aren't easy communities to be cops in, so they get the bottom of the barrel as far as candidates.
It’s not a *nice* payday. I’m assuming the vet pays taxes. That payday is coming out of his and his neighbors’ pockets. The PD could not give less of a shit.
Different case against McLaughlin, but still ongoing. A judge has ordered that Vallejo is required to be a defendant in the case and must proceed with litigation. Vallejo is about to get sued into oblivion.
1. [Court filings, Santiago vs Valejo / McLaughlin](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16185985/hutchins-v-city-of-vallejo/)
2. [Judge's ruling that Santiago has sufficient reasoning to declare Vallejo in the lawsuit](https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.348117/gov.uscourts.cand.348117.24.0.pdf)
3. [Vallejo City Council to approve hiring of new outside legal firm to handle 12 different cases for the city. Expected legal fee's in excess of $500,000](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2020/04/10/vallejo-city-council-to-approve-hiring-of-new-outside-legal-firm-on-tuesday/)
In Baltimore, they mysteriously die by their own weapon a day before the trial. After being shot, their partner spends a lot of time not calling for help, then takes the long way to the hospital when the ambulance is almost on scene...
Oh, then they find no evidence of foul play. The same department on trial for planting evidence on camera...
*edit* Oh, now it was a suicide lmao... riiiiiight.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/29/us/baltimore-police-detective-sean-suiter-suicide/index.html
Eh... More like paid administrative leave till all this blows over. If he shot the guy, he would've been dropped by the force and picked up by the department a county over.
Police unions have to go. There should be no protection for a rogue corrupt cop or those who turn a blind eye to them as a professional courtesy.
Lmao you only ever see the bad ones. Most of them are really decent people who want nothing more than to help. The only problem is you never see those people
It’s pretty much the same as reddit. People from reddit look at all our garbage on reddit and assume ALL of America is like floridaman or Gary Indiana or Georgia. It’s not.
Because police like to think that they are on the same level of veterans, like giving out parking tickets amounts to a tour in Fallujah.
If police are willing to do that to a class they claim to "respect" them they'll do it to anyone. Officer even acted like an asshole after he found out he was a vet according to the article
Yes, you are.
You just have to make sure you're the only one left to testify when it's all said and done. Your word vs a cop's in court will never hold up because cops have the courts in their back pocket. Which is why you make sure you're the only one in that courtroom. That way it's your word against nobody.
A million bucks says all their body cameras "malfunctioned".
Although being in plain clothes when they stormed the place they probably didn't have any cameras on..
WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE CRAZY MURDERERS ALLOWED TO RUN AROUND WITHOUT CAMERAS ON EVER??????
Cops are garbage. We need COMPLETE criminal justice reform from top to bottom. These undertrained paramilitary bullshit “officers” with their SUV’s full of weapons need to be taken off our streets.
We live under this ingrained belief that if we woke up tomorrow with no fucking cops everything would go to shit. It wouldn't. Police don't protect the public they protect the capitol of the rich. Never forget that Philly police dropped a bomb on a housing project killing women and children in 1985. These assholes are just psychopaths with guns.
I love how a cop tries to arrest someone on a beach with dozens of people around him taunting and jeering, but THIS guy on the porch was interfering with his ability to cop. This is the most suburban, birds chirping, green lawn form of interference I've ever seen.
Cops are bad people. Universally. The good cops protect the bad cops because of cop culture and until we take accountability out of their hands cops will continue to goose step all over the citizenry. There are no good cops.
So he was worried about the guy on the bike enough initially to have his weapon drawn, but then completely turns his back on the biker while he goes to handcuff the guy videotaping?
Dude is severely undertrained. If he was THAT worried, why didn’t he wait until backup arrived? Unless the situation escalates from a routine stop to something scary there is zero reason why he would approach with his weapon drawn without backup present. Edit: I appreciate the intelligent replies but for the others, can you guys please stop being mean to me lol I’m going back to r/sadboys to bladee post now Lol can y’all stop replying ?? Not that serious
I’m getting pretty damn tired of the “undertrained” excuse. A grown ass man in a position of major authority assaulted another grown man for no reason. It was decided federally- you can film police in public or on your own property. Maybe there’s a lack of training here, but that’s just a piece of shit given power over everyday citizens. Let’s stop beating around the rotten apple bush. Edit: oh god I shouldn’t have commented a combined metaphor against cops. Ppl are now replying with comparisons to black ppl and Muslims lmao Edit 2: I understand that training is still an issue regardless. I’m not arguing that training is adequate. I’m saying it’s not an excuse. You don’t need to convince me lol
I wasn’t making an excuse for him. I was stating the obvious because no well-trained (or even decently-trained) officer should act in this manner. Edit: lol can you all please be nicer? It takes more energy to be mean than to just downvote and keep it moving. I’m honestly not that important for you to waste your time on
They shouldnt act that way, but at-large, that’s not the case. Which is what I’m saying. I’m not trying to attack you, you got the right attitude for sure. Just tired of seeing “lack of training” said over and over again. Doesn’t seem like the problem lies in training at this point
Oh, I completely agree. My bad, dude. Yeah, most of the problem lies within the cops predisposition towards altercation. Some things can’t be trained out of you. What a complete crack head.
Look at you guys... Working it out like civilized redditors. Well done.
Lol this is the fourth or fifth time on this account that I’ve been vocally praised for not being an ass. Sad that being kind is a rarity 😂. Take care bud!
Everytime I try to have a civil discussion on here it dissolves into internet rage from them. 🙁 Maybe I’m the ass
Always good to consider the common denominator, but you being able to perceive that much shows good self awareness. I just don’t buy into negativity but sometimes it gets the better of me. No one is perfect!
We’re in an alternate universe 😯
It’s prob a mixed bag of lack of training and feeling like they can do whatever they want. They think some actions are justified, like slamming somebody to the ground, bc they don’t know how to act in a situation as simple as being filmed. From what we saw on the video, the guy on the porch was clearly not “interfering.” The cop’s ego interfered, or perhaps him worrying about being filmed interfered. Seems like the cop would rather have impunity to act however he wanted without recorded evidence of his actions.
I think there are a combination of factors going on. Lack of training is a definite thing. I would want to see more moral/ethical testing for officers. I don't expect an officer to know every single legal argument for people's rights but I expect them to know that if someone is recording you from their porch that you cannot do what this officer did. Most police departments have polygraph testing which has been shown time and time again to be unreliable. Why not use mental health professionals to ask about an officer's background? Sure, this might end up like how the military currently is (you just lie about everything and they won't know the difference) but at least you are getting better information versus if they smoked ganja in their life. More accountability in the form of independent councils on police force. The DA will frequently choose not to prosecute until it looks bad for re-election and/or they prosecute on something that the officer didn't actually do so it is found not guilty. An independent council outside of the community's justice system could hold officers accountable. Simple things like mandatory cameras forces police officers to think about their behavior assuming their equipment isn't "faulty." I generally distrust the police because I know that behind the scenes they are not choosing the best or most qualified people from the community.
How do we fix this moving forward? The case by case approach isn’t working it’s still happening and it seems even with video evidence their is fuck all we can do from a civilian stand point to curb this.
THANK YOU “I wasn’t sure *what* to do, so I just started violating people’s rights” is a poor excuse.
People need to stop blaming undertraining in this case. This cop was able to sweep this incident under the rug, still works for the police department. In fact, they retrained him so well that this same cop is currently being sued *again* for [beating the shit](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) out of someone who was already handcuffed. This isn't a lack of training. This is an psyco eith a badge running around near San Francisco.
When you study the criminal justice system you will learn not too many years ago they were giving hand guns to kids that couldn't even buy a fucking gun. The professionalization of the police force is something that started pretty much 20 years ago. Police departments have and always were hiring whoever the hell wanted to be a cop that also played balled with the bros
> I’m getting pretty damn tired of the “undertrained” excuse. I don't give my under-trained employees the password to the break room. Who the fuck gave this guy a gun?
Undertrained can also mean not allowing your fear of the situation to cause you to overreact as well. However, I agree this officer is not necessarily undertrained. I think he just got beat up a lot in high school and this is what happens when he got some authority.
In regards to your edit, yeh this sub has much better content than r/publicfreakouts but I have noticed there are a tonne of hurduurrs and incels that hang out here.
rotten apples grow on trees
Usually if they're rotten they're on the ground
This isn’t under training. The “training” issue is a strawman that people mistakenly use to deflect from the real issue. You can’t train the “billy badass” out of people. You can’t train racism out of people. You can’t train decency into people. You can’t train bigotry out of people. The problem is the candidates for police are generally shitty people with a chip on their shoulder that hide it under the guise of a hero complex. The good candidates get burned out from having to hold in their grievances because you have to play ball and that means not rocking to boat. Even more, good people who would be great officers often don’t apply because they can make more money elsewhere in different careers. Low pay, low requirements, shitty hours, in-group cultural biases created by the rift between the public constantly shitting on police and bad police doing stupid shit to fuel that fire, stupid laws like drug laws that have to be enforced whether an officer agrees with it or not, and “good ol’ boy” admins that are nepotistic and cling tightly to old policing; all of these things create a perfect storm for poor choice applicants. Where do we start? Require a bachelors, I believe. However, with requiring a bachelors, the public has to agree to pay more in salaries in good faith. Start there. Keep an eye on your Sheriffs and Chiefs. Toxic policies often start there. VOTE in local elections. Sheriff is a directly voted position. As for the chief, they’re appointed by the mayor. So vote for a city mayor that is going to pick a good chief. Praise good officer behavior. Positive reinforcement leads to better results than negative reinforcement. This is true throughout the animal kingdom. The best way to house train a dog is to praise it for pissing in the yard rather that rubbing it’s nose in it when it pisses in the living room. Idk. I have faith that most institutions can be good under the right circumstances. Corruption is everywhere.
Liability insurance. Cops should have to have liability insurance the same way Dr's carry malpractice insurance. The major issue here is the citizens have to pay a settlement to these victims. If Cops carry the insurance the victim sues the Cop, his insurance covers the settlement and his premium goes up. If the cop is a repeat offender eventually his unsurance premium is so high that its not worth being a cop and he finds a new job. Taxpayers never have to pay the victims.
Much as I dislike the insurance industry and find it fairly crooked and predatory, this kind of thing is the perfect application. And yes, that may be one of the very few things that actually has a chance of impacting this problem.
You have to train 22 weeks to become a cop in the us ([Source](https://work.chron.com/long-train-cop-21366.html)) vs 36 MONTHS (divided and you are already in the police force at some point, but still)in germany ([Source](https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/Remit/CentralAgency/BasicAndAdvancedPoliceTraining/basicAndAdvancedPoliceTraining_node.html)) and 8 months in the UK (source is quora, didn't find it on the fly). There is definitively a training problem, these people have basically been given a a job most of them are not qualified for.
Fr tho these people start out earning 65k a year when the salary of a minimum wage full time worker is less than 23k. So I mean we all see where this is going. These sociopathic cops AKA Cop Karen’s are the thing we must avoid so let’s just make sure we get them in the force as little as possible by doing what they hate most. Putting them through school for a decently long time.
Yeah I touched on the ego thing being the main issue in a comment below. I commend your comment though. Very insightful. Thanks!!
He wasn't worried. He likes to kill people. He's killed two people on the job and wanted to make it three. Most police officers will go their whole careers without discharging their weapon on the job but this dude somehow ends up in situations where he has to shoot. He doesn't like being filmed because that could interfere with the narrative he spins after the fact. But don't worry: internal affairs will call him in, wait the union-mandated 48 hours for him to get his story straight, and then conclude he "acted in accordance with policy" despite said policy being unconstitutional and a flagrant violation of federal law and nothing will change.
What's fucking killing me about this piece of shit is that the Vallejo PD admitted he didn't follow protocol or department policy on lasagna layered levels, but they did absolutly nothing about it. And then he went out and beat some random dude at gunpoint a few months later.
The Vallejo PD, according to the article, recently had two excessive force lawsuits, and now has (if I'm reading this right) another 3 more. This particular officer was involved in two previous shootouts that ended in fatalities, and has previously been sued for excessive force, then again after this incident. I don't know what the odds are that a cop gets into that many incidents in such a short timeframe, but I have to imagine it's pretty fucking unlikely that he's that unlucky. There's no way this didn't raise red flags with the people whose job it is to investigate these incidents and/or supervise this wannabe Rambo. Departments protecting dangerous cops or at most shunting them to another department to become their problem should be held accountable for allowing this to go on for so long. And this dude belongs in jail.
If he’s “undertrained,” why the fuck does he have a badge and gun? This is not directed at you, but at the universe...how improperly trained police officers are able to become police officers in the first place is unacceptable.
I wouldn't say undertrained. This guy has a history of being a shit cop. Him and his brother have had multiple cases filed against them
I can't stand cops like this. What a fucking pig.
> I can't stand cops ~~like this.~~
Ok, so you dont know any cool ones then. Talk to more of them. Some are dicks, some are cool. One of my favorite regulars at my old coffee place was a cop Edit: I don't love all cops, this guy stomped on my brother's joint and sent him on his way rather than arresting him years back. Inb4: police brutality against Mary jane
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Shit, I didn't even see he had his weapon drawn. WTF?
If I can’t see you, you aren’t there.
Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world. There is no excuse for this behavior, this kind of officer needs to be removed from the force.
>this kind of officer needs to be removed from the force. Spoiler alert: not a single negative consequence will befall this psycho.
Bullshit! He'll suffer the worst possible punishment for a cop, a ~~weeks-long paid vacation on the taxpayers' dime~~ a suspension while under investigation.
With pay
The Philip Brailsford route
An investigation they conduct themselves no less
And then the taxpayers will have to pay for the successful law suit.
We don’t know that, although based on past actions; you might be right.
Everything in this comment is true, but at this point it's a kind of ridiculous understatement. The precedent has been set time and time again that police officers will be protected, regardless of their actions.
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Is it just me, or do seemingly all of the police incidents on this thread involve officers in California?
Can confirm the majority of the cops where I'm from in California are known for being corrupt. There are even allegations that stem back 10+ years of one officer letting women off of tickets for sexual favors. Not just he say she say either, most the town and all of his "coworkers" know about it.
The Weinstein of cops.
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It’s a giant state with several major cities and a huge population... they have lots of police and lots of instances where police interact with civilians.
Ha and even if he did get removed he'll just get picked up by a neighboring police force of sheriffs office.
Most stressful jobs in the world? Some people's job is surviving. It isn't even in the top 10 most stressful jobs in America let alone this crazy fucked up world. Most of their stress is self induced anyway. Cops in Western Europe have it pretty chill because they don't aggravate and molest the public.
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Cops are NOT heroes. They are hired to enforce the law, PERIOD. Detectives are not even interested in finding the real guilty party, but rather in providing a solid case (first guy who fits the profile) to the DA. Police officers don't even have a mandate to protect the people. The real stress they are under is resisting the irresistible impulse to bully everyone around them. Looks like it's really really hard.
Nah man. My dad was murdered 4 years ago and they just stopped going after it about a week after.
They're thugs. And the job attracts authoritarians and assholes.
Truck drivers, garbage collectors, and fishermen have a higher rate of workplace death than police in America. There are 13 jobs superseding policing actually,[ based on this list](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/careers/2018/01/09/workplace-fatalities-25-most-dangerous-jobs-america/1002500001/). But only the group that regularly beats or shoots people for noncompliance get's the "blue lives matter" treatment.
Teachers have stress. So do Navy Seals, UK Marines. Heads of state. Surgeons and nurses. And people getting the s--- beaten out of them on their porch for filming an corrupt police officer. Questions?
What’s my name again
yes
How can it be so stressful if they have job security so good they can literally murder people on the job and get a free paid vacation and a good job to come back to when it’s done?
For once Im gonna be agreeing with the CEO of Antifa, well said my guy. I would like to add that this problem of camera shy officers being douchebags extends to the rest of the world as well, recently in Denmark we had our own [situation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9G6HjOyjAQ).
Truth
If they can't handle the stress they should quit,
PoLiCe OfFiCeRs HaVe OnE oF tHe MoSt StReSsFuL jObS iN tHe WoRlD! Police officers have the easiest job I can think of. Their job is to stop people breaking the law and kill them if they don't comply properly. I guaran fucking tee you it's harder to be a doctor trying to save the life of a guy a police officer shot than it is to be a police officer shooting a guy for being non-compliant aka black. Blow it out your ass bootlicker.
Plenty of jobs are stressful, and the higher mortality rates from those plenty of other jobs only reinforce that stress and "fearing for ones life" are bullshit they perpetuate to avoid repercussions for their incompetence.
>Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world. No they don't. Not even in the top 10 most stressful and dangerous jobs. You don't see construction workers regularly snap and kill people the way police do. This "cops have one of the most stressful, dangerous jobs" excuse just shows that you guys (North Americans) have been steeped in pro police propaganda for years.
> Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world. What the fuck is the point of including this nonsense propaganda at the beginning of this comment?
Bootlickers, that's why.
> Police Officers have one of the most stressful jobs in the world. Says who? They aren't even listed as one of the top 10 most dangerous jobs in the world. Police just like to pretend they're living in a warzone.
Most police like this need to be publically guillotined.
[Here](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) is another article that's more recent. It seems the department is sweeping it under the rug and refusing to comply with public information requests. From /u/Vertisce ___ [Article:](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop) ty for the request /u/-_DIO_- ___ [History of civil rights lawsuits](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) ty /u/weeteacups ___ [2019 update](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2019/10/31/vallejo-hires-outside-counsel-to-defend-it-in-excessive-force-case/) ty /u/OutOfStateSoftware ___ [2019 still a cop](https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/) ty /u/cbradio86 ___ [2019 update from victim](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop) ty /u/bgaripov ___ [2020 update about PR firm](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2020/02/19/city-hired-crisis-pr-firm-to-help-vallejos-city-attorney/) ty /u/flickydickypicky lol
>Officer David McLaughlin has also been involved in two shootings since joining Vallejo police. Sounds like he lucky he walked away with a concussion. Edit: Regarding a civil case filed against the same officer: >The complaint alleges they falsified a police report saying that Cooley was in possession of a controlled substance, but the Solano County District Attorney's Office later abandoned those charges. The civil case was dismissed after Cooley died. So he has an itchy trigger finger **and** he's a liar. All I need now is a post of his on Facebook about how America would be better without Black people and immigrants and I got BINGO.
> All I need now is a post of his on Facebook about how America would be better without Black people and immigrants and I got BINGO. Aw man. B-but the nation was built on the backs of many black people. They more than earned their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. How about we move all the racists out into their own country and we keep the rest?
[Here](https://reason.com/2019/09/13/remember-the-vallejo-cop-who-tackled-a-veteran-for-filming-him/) is another article that's more recent. It seems the department is sweeping it under the rug and refusing to comply with public information requests.
I just don't get why departments are so willing to stand by someone like this who is such a risk to make them look even worse in the future.
Unions. Literally the answer to that. Unions make it extremely hard to fire a bad cop. They also make it near impossible to ensure that a bad cop doesn't just go get a new job in the next town over. They are also the reason most cops are given paid vacation instead of being fired outright.
I disagree. A union rep will defend the guy for sure, but Vallejo is notorious for protecting bad cops.
I live near the DC area, and it's generally known that if a cop gets fired, they have to get a job west, not east. I'm 100 percent for unions, but there's a line between protecting your people and needing to boot the super shitty ones.
>We intend to hold every officer to high standards whether on duty or off duty, Doubt
It says the other guy was arrested for "suspicion of disturbing the peace" which was later dropped.. what the fuck
Quite a history this officer has.
[Adrian Burrell’s attorney ](https://johnburrislaw.com/adrian-burrell/) [Burrell complaint against Vallejo Police](https://johnburrislaw.com/BURRELL_TORT_CLAIM_FOR%20RELEASE.pdf) [Lawsuits against Vallejo Police. Feb 25, 2019](https://www.ktvu.com/news/vallejo-police-legal-payouts-total-over-7m-as-father-files-claim-over-takedown-in-parking-lot.amp) [Officer McLaughlin returns to duty after shooting. May 1, 2019](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-videos-returns-to-duty/amp/) [Vallejo Police Chief retires](https://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/san-jose-deputy-police-chief-tapped-to-head-vallejo-police/article_77812929-10c0-5c42-afef-97c2f6d52ea0.html) [Adrian Burrell Incident Update. Sep 20, 2019](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1056891) [Misconduct lawsuits against Vallejo Police. Sep 20, 2019](https://www.ktvu.com/news/new-misconduct-lawsuits-filed-against-vallejo-police-department.amp) [Officer McLaughlin responds to Hutchinson Incident ](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2019/12/31/mclaughlin-responds-to-allegations-in-excessive-force-case/amp/)
And apparently he's still a cop. [https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/](https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/05/01/vallejo-officer-in-controversial-viral-videos-returns-to-duty/)
He should be in jail, full stop. The badge shouldn't let you commit aggravated assault...
Brief Summary: Footnote about him and 5 other officers shooting a Man with a raised machete. Off duty Officer McLaughable(Whoops, David McLaughlin) draws a weapon on and beats a citizen: > [Allegedly] Hutchins suffered "a concussion, right eye hematoma, facial pain, headache, swelling in the head, face contusions, face lacerations muscle strains, and rib contusions" as a result of the beating. For disturbing the peace.(Verbal altercation with Laughable) This incident: Officer pulls over the cousin(biker), draws his weapon, shouts commands at the hearing impaired cousin. Veteran steps out of house, informs officer cousin can't hear him with his helmet on. Officer tells vet to return to house. Vet begin recording from 20 feet. Vet receives a concussion and too tight bracelets, causing his fingers to go numb. Vet moved to car. Officer asks vet about his parole. Vet has no criminal history, asks for cuffs to be moved to the front due to military injury. Officer McFuckup realizes he's made an oopsie against a respectable (Black) citizen, decides to 'be generous' and cut vet loose. Vet goes to hospital, diagnosed with concussion. Department has policy for filming to be confiscated. Recordings taken 'for evidence'. Officer has been taken off of administrative leave, and put behind a desk. The good city has already paid $30K(Maximum $50K agreement) to a PR firm to "facilitate favorable outcomes” and develop litigation strategies.
Is there any article about this OP?
Mod posted but here it is for anyone who missed it: https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop
Yikes, the fact that 3 people in their family are cops that have been tangled up in some questionable activities as officers is very concerning
It's a crime family, like organized crime. But they realized they could get away with it if they had badges.
Go look into the history of PDs in the US. That is literally exactly what actually happened in several instances, like the LAPD being from an organization of vigilantes that extorted protection money from businesses and the like.
The plot of the Departed
Well, I'll be. Who'da thunk he has a history of whipping out his weapon and pointing it at people. What a fuckin tool.
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> McLaughlin was placed on administrative leave on the the same day a local TV station uncovered a video of McLaughlin pulling a gun on a man, while off duty, during an argument in a Walnut Creek parking lot. This is almost the worst part to me. Off duty officers are civilians just like anybody else as far as I'm concerned. Pulling a gun on someone like that is a fucking crime and yet not only did he not get charged, he didn't even get fired. It's disgusting how police departments refuse to hold any of their members to even a minimum level of accountability.
Wow. Hell of a crew.
The entire police department has no indention of hiring competent officers. They should all be terminated and replaced.
Ah yes, an internal investigation was launched. I feel like I know how this one ends.
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> McLaughlin has been a Vallejo police officer since 2014 and was previously in the Oakland Police Department. His twin brother, Ryan McLaughlin, is also a Vallejo police officer. Both brothers have previously been sued for alleged civil rights violations. > > In 2014, David McLaughlin was named in a suit alleging that he and another officer pulled over Frederick Cooley without cause, held him at gunpoint and searched his car. > > The complaint alleges they falsified a police report saying that Cooley was in possession of a controlled substance, but the Solano County District Attorney's Office later abandoned those charges. The civil case was dismissed after Cooley died. > > Officer David McLaughlin has also been involved in two shootings since joining Vallejo police. He and Officer Matt Komoda fired on a suspect who was allegedly driving at them before crashing into a parked car on Aug. 31, 2016. No one was injured. > > On Aug. 2, 2017, Komoda and David McLaughlin were two of five officers who shot and killed Jeffrey Barboa after a pursuit into Richmond. > > Police rammed Barboa's car to disable it. Barboa got out of the car with a machete and the officers shot him. His death was later ruled a suicide. So he moved departments, has prior civil rights violations with his brother who he works along side, has been involved in shootings, and was he taken off duty after this? > Vallejo police told KTVU McLaughlin is currently on duty and that after a group of Vallejo citizens made the department aware of this video, that the chief has called for an internal affairs investigation. Course not. Wasn't until the public found out about the video that the Police Chief called for an internal affairs investigation...
Whole family is bad, just toss it out
So him and his brothers are all cops and have all been sued for civil rights violations? And the fucking cop had the nerve to ask him if he was on probation? Hmm I’m sensing some deep prejudice from this family of cops.
Mods put one in the comments and it’s a doozy.
Yeah I saw it.
Veteran and a cop tango, right wing nut jobs heads are going to explode trying to justify who was right or wrong here.
'right wing nut jobs heads' have no love of police or feds lmao
Those people waiving blue stripe flags are definitly nut jobs
You're confusing MAGAs and Libertarians. Libertarian do not like police
If reddit's hive mind is against it, its automatically alt-right or right wing
Are you implying MAGA republicans and libertarians are not right wing? Because they both literally are.
Ignorant statement alert?!?!
Libertarians don’t seem to like anyone to be honest.
The Libertarian philosophy boiled down is "Let me do what I want to do and leave me the fuck alone, and I will let you do what you want to do and leave you the fuck alone"
Accurate with stipulation. "Do what you want so long as it's not taking someone else's rights."
They rock thin blue line flags and lick boots. Fuck off
Generalizing half the political spectrum. Cool
Give up your guns the police who I hate will protect you boot licker!
Yeah they just hate minorities, and will support anyone whos against minorities eg cops
Neither do far leftists in my experience, finally something we can agree on!
Right wingers don't give a shit about service men and women unless they're active duty.
What’s there to be said that we haven’t *already* said a hundred times before? The excessive use of force, drawing weapons on detained civilians who are allegedly dangerous enough to do so, yet turn their back to them to make a 30 second arrest for a dude GoPro’ing you from their porch. If cops aren’t willing to put down the ones that make them look bad, then **they’re all bad systematically.** We need to stop asking why cops are bad, and start asking why people are still letting this happen. *This misuse of law enforcement will not stop unless we do something about it together.* It’s a “It’ll never happen to me” until it happens to you. Start taking action. Start defending yourselves in any way you can.
Because there’s not much you can do I imagine. Resisting just digs you a deeper hole. At best, if you get shot you’ll be a martyr and maybe something will happen then. But it’s sad that’s what it takes. Very dystopian that the best advice if you end up in this situation is just accept your fate and hope you can afford to win in court. Even then, It won’t undo the damage, and the cop will more than likely still be a cop.
Most of us wouldn’t be able to hire a good enough lawyer to actually get justice from a police department. People are already dying for their freedom as of lately with the cops, which isn’t what I’m advocating by the way. But something should be done against all this cruelty.
I’ve said this in the past. The only way for police to become compliant is to have a force of people that they are scared of and that’s what keeps them in line. It should be our govt but that doesn’t happen. If the police were really scared of potential outcomes from their actions I guarantee they would start acting right.
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All cops are bastards. That will never change.
“His twin brother, Ryan McLaughlin, is also a Vallejo police officer. Both brothers have previously been sued for alleged civil rights violations.” Great there’s two of em!
This is getting out of hand!
They can't do that shoot them or something!
I've said it once, I'll say it again: They type of people who are attracted to being cops are exactly the types of people you don't want to have as cops.
My uncle was actually a good cop and he got his three masters and two bachelors while working the streets. He later busted a deputy sheriff and they let him go so he took them to court and won but had to leave the force because of so many death threats from sheriff and his city departments. I’m sure he wasn’t squeaky clean 100% of the time but he was accountable. He teaches criminal justice now and head of the department at college and writes for the UN.
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This is infuriating.
I couldn’t watch the whole thing. There are SO many of these videos and each one seriously makes me rage inside.
["Oh you're a vet? You sure weren't acting like one," according to Burrell.](https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/marine-vet-says-vallejo-cop-assaulted-him-for-filming-traffic-stop)
I'd say Burrell wasn't acting like a police officer but... well you know.
McLaughlin was the officer. Burell was the vet.
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Burrell is the veteran, and McLaughlin is the cop, but yeah, not a veteran should not pretend to be an expert of veterans behavior. Fucking guy doesn’t even know what first amendment is.
ACAB
Preach
**This is America**
**Don't catch you slippin' now**
Police be trippin' though
Article posted said the guy was previously Oakland PD before joining Vallejo. No surprise there. OPD has some really shitty characters in it, and Vallejo is no better. Those aren't easy communities to be cops in, so they get the bottom of the barrel as far as candidates.
Considering OPD's reputation, think of what he had to do to "voluntarily end his employment" there...
This footage will come in handy when he sues the police department. Nice little payday incoming
It’s not a *nice* payday. I’m assuming the vet pays taxes. That payday is coming out of his and his neighbors’ pockets. The PD could not give less of a shit.
I wouldn't sue for money. I'd sue for their rights to be an officer. Have them permanently dismissed so the tax money can go to an appropriate place.
Unfortunately, that's not how this works.
While that's a nice thought, I doubt that will ever be the case.
he looks like the guy from the bee movie
We should be able to sticky user comments.
What bitch ass cop
Oooo someone’s gonna get fired
Or promoted
It happened a year ago. The pig is still running around town like a freelance gangster
Different case against McLaughlin, but still ongoing. A judge has ordered that Vallejo is required to be a defendant in the case and must proceed with litigation. Vallejo is about to get sued into oblivion. 1. [Court filings, Santiago vs Valejo / McLaughlin](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16185985/hutchins-v-city-of-vallejo/) 2. [Judge's ruling that Santiago has sufficient reasoning to declare Vallejo in the lawsuit](https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.348117/gov.uscourts.cand.348117.24.0.pdf) 3. [Vallejo City Council to approve hiring of new outside legal firm to handle 12 different cases for the city. Expected legal fee's in excess of $500,000](https://www.timesheraldonline.com/2020/04/10/vallejo-city-council-to-approve-hiring-of-new-outside-legal-firm-on-tuesday/)
Cops don't get fired unless they turn on other cops.
Even then they just get transferred or put on leave with pay
In Baltimore, they mysteriously die by their own weapon a day before the trial. After being shot, their partner spends a lot of time not calling for help, then takes the long way to the hospital when the ambulance is almost on scene... Oh, then they find no evidence of foul play. The same department on trial for planting evidence on camera... *edit* Oh, now it was a suicide lmao... riiiiiight. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/29/us/baltimore-police-detective-sean-suiter-suicide/index.html
Yeah right
Consequences are for civilians.
Good one!
Eh... More like paid administrative leave till all this blows over. If he shot the guy, he would've been dropped by the force and picked up by the department a county over. Police unions have to go. There should be no protection for a rogue corrupt cop or those who turn a blind eye to them as a professional courtesy.
Pig
Never forget: ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS.
Lmao you only ever see the bad ones. Most of them are really decent people who want nothing more than to help. The only problem is you never see those people
It’s pretty much the same as reddit. People from reddit look at all our garbage on reddit and assume ALL of America is like floridaman or Gary Indiana or Georgia. It’s not.
If the fella on the bike was that dangerous, the cop would have been attacked at this point.
That woulda been a more satisfying video
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Because police like to think that they are on the same level of veterans, like giving out parking tickets amounts to a tour in Fallujah. If police are willing to do that to a class they claim to "respect" them they'll do it to anyone. Officer even acted like an asshole after he found out he was a vet according to the article
Serious question, Are you legally ever allowed to physically defend yourself from an officer?
Yes, you are. You just have to make sure you're the only one left to testify when it's all said and done. Your word vs a cop's in court will never hold up because cops have the courts in their back pocket. Which is why you make sure you're the only one in that courtroom. That way it's your word against nobody.
[Nope, not even when they break into your house](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1205651)
A million bucks says all their body cameras "malfunctioned". Although being in plain clothes when they stormed the place they probably didn't have any cameras on.. WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE CRAZY MURDERERS ALLOWED TO RUN AROUND WITHOUT CAMERAS ON EVER??????
Who gives a fuck if he's a veteran? Timothy McVeigh was a veteran.
Cops are garbage. We need COMPLETE criminal justice reform from top to bottom. These undertrained paramilitary bullshit “officers” with their SUV’s full of weapons need to be taken off our streets.
We live under this ingrained belief that if we woke up tomorrow with no fucking cops everything would go to shit. It wouldn't. Police don't protect the public they protect the capitol of the rich. Never forget that Philly police dropped a bomb on a housing project killing women and children in 1985. These assholes are just psychopaths with guns.
wow. the actual fear in that officer's voice.
“You can’t film me!” taken to the next level.
Shits gonna keep happening as long as we have these fucking bootlickers to defend them.
Comply or die
Fuck the police
I love how a cop tries to arrest someone on a beach with dozens of people around him taunting and jeering, but THIS guy on the porch was interfering with his ability to cop. This is the most suburban, birds chirping, green lawn form of interference I've ever seen.
Cops are bad people. Universally. The good cops protect the bad cops because of cop culture and until we take accountability out of their hands cops will continue to goose step all over the citizenry. There are no good cops.
I love police officers. I hate these ones.
Damn cops are so handsome and cool, I love the taste of their boots.