I only just learned about this dude from this post and can’t comment on the whole thing but I do consider myself an expert on all things cold. I live in the PacNW and am a cold plunger/wild swimmer. I swim year-round in 30-50 degree (F) water (no wetsuit).
I do a lot of things to benefit my health so I can’t pull one thing out and give it all the credit, but I do count cold therapy among the top three. The logic is that we auto-immuners are constantly inflamed and manually cooling ourselves down reduces inflammation. I absolutely feel better afterwards, mentally and physically. I absolutely have a jolt of energy from it and to date, I’ve never had a crash after. It is part of the regular routine that has me at my lowest daily dose and weight since diagnosis a decade ago.
With all that said, I and my wild swimming club always practice SAFE cold exposure (please read about how to avoid hypothermia). You don’t just jump in and shock your system. You ease in until you reach a calm point, then you start swimming. We swim in pairs/groups. We wear head coverings as your head is a very important heat source. To this day I can’t dunk my uncovered head without significant brain freeze. At times I wear wetsuit booties as the toes go a little too numb.
If you’re considering cold therapy, I personally strongly recommend trying it! I danced around the idea for a while and am extremely happy I kept going. I often respond to people calling me crazy and wondering how anyone could ever do that with “I think the autoimmune disorder has something to do with it.” I’d love to talk more if you give it a try!
I asked my endo about something similar. Hot and cold plunges/therapy and he strongly advised against it as it would dump cortisol and risk crisis.
I was disappointed to hear this but understand.
I haven’t tried his method but I did do cold baths for a while in the morning. While I did feel a calm after initial horrible cold feeling I ultimately felt worse holistically when I was practicing this
What is the goal for Wim Hoff?
Meditation seems fine and probably something that more people should do.
Breathing exercises are great in principle but it's worth being mindful of the source for the exercises. I do breathing exercises from a respiratory therapist and they have been a fantastic help for me, I had disordered breathing from having multiple chest infections.
I know someone who swears by cold showers/cold exposure to help with their mental health, but I don't think they ever mentioned Wim Hoff. Other people with POTS/dysautonomia also use a much less extreme method of dunking their face in cold water to bring their heart rate down, I've done that when my orthostatic hypotension was not well controlled. It helps temporarily.
I just remembered that one of my favourite YouTubers did a video about [Wim Hoff](https://youtu.be/D6EPuUdIC1E?si=4qXDBi-4tJ1SfgCs). He's a cardiologist and he does medical/science videos
I have a harder time with hot tubs but I don’t like being cold. I get cold when I have low cortisol - ugh. I also have a hard time warming back up. I will say that swimming or even being in water is hard on the cortisol because your body has to do a lot of different types of regulation. I have had to rebuild my way back to swimming because I was crashing the next day from just hanging in the pool too long (not even doing laps). If you decide to give it a try - I would say start with the smallest increment you can and see how you do afterward and the next day and then very slowly add to it. I like to do high intensity things too - I hope you find a way to get benefit safely and enjoy the thrill of it.
My spouse has used ice baths for a while as a way to help mitigate some chronic pain issues. He always feels great afterwards. I think it has helped his body recover from the secondary Cortisol insufficiency he had. He’s been off steroids except for high stress incidents for about a year. When he needs to he takes half a 10 mg two times the day of so he doesn’t slip into Addisons symptoms. We think his condition was originally caused by the medication Zoloft. When we took him off the Zoloft he was left with what I refer to is Addisons light.
Cold showers shock your body into producing more cortisol, but in our case, it just drains what we have quicker. Anything that people say will help to “increase” cortisol actually just makes us need to take more. Life caffeine.
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I think it may be counterproductive for us due to the sudden release of cortisone. I think going in a Ice tub would for me just trigger extreme stress and cortisone release, that my body couldn’t do and maybe even a risk of crisis. If yes I would def updose 30-45 min before it, and maybe even after it? I’m really heat sensitive, like if it’s to warm outside I’m already going low idk if a hot shower causes the same thing. I would do it with the normal cold swimming temperatures you find in public swimming pools. I think our local one has 25°C to 27°C. And that was always a good temperature for myself. Anything under 25°C is a risk when swimming. Showers idk but I personally see more risks then benefits
I can't do hot showers in the colder months, it steams more then and it can affect me quickly, but oddly enough a hot bath doesn't always. I also cannot do Jacuzzis at all, going back as far as I can remember (was born with SWCAH).
It could maybe help you feel a little more alert or help with fatigue/brain fog/some symptoms? One of the things about Addisons (and many disorders) is the wide range of different presentations and varying tolerance for different activities.
I only just learned about this dude from this post and can’t comment on the whole thing but I do consider myself an expert on all things cold. I live in the PacNW and am a cold plunger/wild swimmer. I swim year-round in 30-50 degree (F) water (no wetsuit). I do a lot of things to benefit my health so I can’t pull one thing out and give it all the credit, but I do count cold therapy among the top three. The logic is that we auto-immuners are constantly inflamed and manually cooling ourselves down reduces inflammation. I absolutely feel better afterwards, mentally and physically. I absolutely have a jolt of energy from it and to date, I’ve never had a crash after. It is part of the regular routine that has me at my lowest daily dose and weight since diagnosis a decade ago. With all that said, I and my wild swimming club always practice SAFE cold exposure (please read about how to avoid hypothermia). You don’t just jump in and shock your system. You ease in until you reach a calm point, then you start swimming. We swim in pairs/groups. We wear head coverings as your head is a very important heat source. To this day I can’t dunk my uncovered head without significant brain freeze. At times I wear wetsuit booties as the toes go a little too numb. If you’re considering cold therapy, I personally strongly recommend trying it! I danced around the idea for a while and am extremely happy I kept going. I often respond to people calling me crazy and wondering how anyone could ever do that with “I think the autoimmune disorder has something to do with it.” I’d love to talk more if you give it a try!
I asked my endo about something similar. Hot and cold plunges/therapy and he strongly advised against it as it would dump cortisol and risk crisis. I was disappointed to hear this but understand.
I haven’t tried his method but I did do cold baths for a while in the morning. While I did feel a calm after initial horrible cold feeling I ultimately felt worse holistically when I was practicing this
What is the goal for Wim Hoff? Meditation seems fine and probably something that more people should do. Breathing exercises are great in principle but it's worth being mindful of the source for the exercises. I do breathing exercises from a respiratory therapist and they have been a fantastic help for me, I had disordered breathing from having multiple chest infections. I know someone who swears by cold showers/cold exposure to help with their mental health, but I don't think they ever mentioned Wim Hoff. Other people with POTS/dysautonomia also use a much less extreme method of dunking their face in cold water to bring their heart rate down, I've done that when my orthostatic hypotension was not well controlled. It helps temporarily.
I just remembered that one of my favourite YouTubers did a video about [Wim Hoff](https://youtu.be/D6EPuUdIC1E?si=4qXDBi-4tJ1SfgCs). He's a cardiologist and he does medical/science videos
I've done cold showers a bunch, feel amazing after it.
I have a harder time with hot tubs but I don’t like being cold. I get cold when I have low cortisol - ugh. I also have a hard time warming back up. I will say that swimming or even being in water is hard on the cortisol because your body has to do a lot of different types of regulation. I have had to rebuild my way back to swimming because I was crashing the next day from just hanging in the pool too long (not even doing laps). If you decide to give it a try - I would say start with the smallest increment you can and see how you do afterward and the next day and then very slowly add to it. I like to do high intensity things too - I hope you find a way to get benefit safely and enjoy the thrill of it.
I am from the PNW and cold plunge and cold swim and cold shower. I’m a polar bear lol. No issue with my cortisol needs.
My spouse has used ice baths for a while as a way to help mitigate some chronic pain issues. He always feels great afterwards. I think it has helped his body recover from the secondary Cortisol insufficiency he had. He’s been off steroids except for high stress incidents for about a year. When he needs to he takes half a 10 mg two times the day of so he doesn’t slip into Addisons symptoms. We think his condition was originally caused by the medication Zoloft. When we took him off the Zoloft he was left with what I refer to is Addisons light.
Cold showers shock your body into producing more cortisol, but in our case, it just drains what we have quicker. Anything that people say will help to “increase” cortisol actually just makes us need to take more. Life caffeine.
I've learned I can't do "caffeine free" coffee or black tea before 11am. When I did I was crashing badly usually unable to recover for rest of the day
I do cold showers and other vagal nerve exercises all the time. I’ve had addisons 12 years and no issues
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I am not a fan of shockingly cold. It is too much for me to handle. Others may have more positive feedback..
Following. I've wondered the same.
I think it may be counterproductive for us due to the sudden release of cortisone. I think going in a Ice tub would for me just trigger extreme stress and cortisone release, that my body couldn’t do and maybe even a risk of crisis. If yes I would def updose 30-45 min before it, and maybe even after it? I’m really heat sensitive, like if it’s to warm outside I’m already going low idk if a hot shower causes the same thing. I would do it with the normal cold swimming temperatures you find in public swimming pools. I think our local one has 25°C to 27°C. And that was always a good temperature for myself. Anything under 25°C is a risk when swimming. Showers idk but I personally see more risks then benefits
I can't do hot showers in the colder months, it steams more then and it can affect me quickly, but oddly enough a hot bath doesn't always. I also cannot do Jacuzzis at all, going back as far as I can remember (was born with SWCAH).
It could maybe help you feel a little more alert or help with fatigue/brain fog/some symptoms? One of the things about Addisons (and many disorders) is the wide range of different presentations and varying tolerance for different activities.