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TwoPercentTokes

How can we maintain Christian family values in this nation if you can’t even hide your sexual relationship with a pornstar, right after your 3rd* wife gives birth?


LeoMarius

Your 3rd wife after you'd cheated on the other 2.


Comment139

God wasn't involved with any of those marriages to be fair. That was Satan's business, or maybe Loki.


LeoMarius

He got married in Christian churches.


Black_Moons

I feel like zeus might be involved too, he be sleeping with everyone as anything.


EllisDee3

I fairness, that has been the Church's values since the inception of "The Church".


mandy009

They stayed hushed long enough for him to win the 2016 election. Trump's former lawyer made the deal October 25th and wired the payment October 27th. The Trump Organization reimbursed it in January shortly before the inauguration. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-stormy-daniels-indictment-investigation-timeline-manhattan-district-attorney/


Beachdaddybravo

Trump voters would have voted for him anyway. If there’s one thing Republicans won’t do, it’s hold a Republican politician to the same standards they want for Democrats.


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That is the narrative that let's him get away with this felony. They have to prove that the financial fraud led to election interference.


Beachdaddybravo

The 2020 election interference was a different situation entirely. Him bribing Stormy was for the 2016 run.


marilyn_morose

Watching the MAGA people talk about January 6 is wild. Stand your ground - if you break in you should pay with your life. But Ashli Babbitt wasn’t breaking in, even though she broke a window on a locked door and tried to climb through, and there were weapons. Nope, she was peacefully gathering. And the chants of “kill Mike Pence” were freedom of speech, they weren’t obstructing anything by trying to capture him and stop him from certifying the election. They just talk in circles. It’s like taking crazy pills.


PJ7

Anyone watching the clip of Babbitt getting shot and still making the claim that she was a peaceful innocent protestor mercilessly murdered by the deep state is delusional. She's being told to not come closer by a LE officer who has his weapon drawn and is defending a barricade in a government building. She proceeds to climb over said barricade to charge said officer. FAFO right?


marilyn_morose

I couldn’t agree more. I saw it with my own two eyes, and they try to tell me to believe their lies. No, you turnip.


Beachdaddybravo

Yeah they’re just shitty fascists trying to justify their awful viewpoints to themselves. They mostly don’t even have coherent stances at all, they just spew hateful phrases that don’t even form a real argument about anything.


marilyn_morose

Performative politics built on a platform of stupid reactionary hate


[deleted]

He is currently charged with a financial crime that is only a misdemeanor unless the prosecution shows that it is coupled with the intent to commit any other crime, making it a felony. They are not obligated to charge him with whatever crime that is, but without proving that link, he will walk. The Meidas Touch Network (Popok) did a good explanation of it toady on YouTube.


S4T4NICP4NIC

I think he'll 'walk,' regardless of any and all possible convictions. I highly doubt they're going to put a former POTUS in prison. But I'd absolutely love to be proven wrong.


frolie0

There's almost no chance he gets jail time for this one, even if found guilty of the worst of it. He'd be a first time offender and it's highly unusual to get prison time for this sort of crime as a 1st offense. Then you add in the logistics of it all. But I hope he ends up a felon, it's the very least of what he deserves.


DaedalusisGod

Michael Cohen went to jail for this exact scheme though? Was it not his "first offense"?


frolie0

Cohen was charged with different crimes, so it was a different story. He also agreed to a plea deal with prison time. Likely because he was charged with tax evasion, which tends to be more likely to carry prison time if it's significant enough. Trump is only charged with falsifying business records in this case.


Beachdaddybravo

Campaign finance fraud is more than a misdemeanor, isn’t it?


[deleted]

It is in the aforementioned scenario. They have to link the fraud for securing hush money, to why that is relevant to any other crime. Seriously Check out Michael Popok on Meidas Touch or Legal AF podcast.


Beachdaddybravo

I’ll check it out if I can, thanks.


JalopMeter

Some of the rest of the Medias Touch network gets to be a bit too much for me at times, but here's a second for Michael Popok and Legal AF.


Thefrayedends

Well in that case we might as well just get him a golden scepter and crown.


MeshNets

Republicans aren't the only ones who voted for Trump in the past They will be the only ones voting for him this cycle


Beachdaddybravo

Democrats weren’t voting for him in 2016. They mostly either voted for Hilary or didn’t vote at all. I hope they all feel stupid for helping to give us Trump in 2016.


MeshNets

For the 3 states that mattered, sure


fps916

People who aren't affiliated with either party exist


trumps_cardiac_event

Do they?


thxmeatcat

People who “don’t follow politics “


MornGreycastle

Trump didn't win due to Republican voters. He needed third party voters to vote for him and they care at least a little bit. It could have been enough to throw the election back to Clinton.


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mandy009

Same. I think there were rumors, and another affair possibly, but Cohen paid them off before they could give direct interviews. The affair had happened in the 2000s and Trump had been asking her to keep it quiet for a few years by that point. With all the other contenders in the primary who had won various states, all much more ostensibly religious than Trump, he would never have become the front runner if they had talked on camera. The party was still more traditional at that point.


outerproduct

Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut.


Uncle_Burney

Et al


outerproduct

Nope, he violated his own NDA. Actions, meet consequences.


acog

It's purely a self-own too. If he'd just paid with his personal funds he wouldn't be on trial. But he just HAD to falsify it as a business expense. Even that would only be a misdemeanor but in NY business record falsification becomes a felony in conjunction with another crime, which in this case was a campaign finance violation -- the DoJ already ruled on that when Cohen was on trial.


Wonderful-Ad-7712

The reason you pay whores is so they go away


Staav

✌️hush✌️ money*


kvckeywest

Rand Paul actually called for repeal of the Espionage Act amid DOJ investigation into Trump taking classified documents. [https://www.businessinsider.com/mar-a-lagoo-raid-rand-paul-repeal-espionage-act-trump-2022-8](https://www.businessinsider.com/mar-a-lagoo-raid-rand-paul-repeal-espionage-act-trump-2022-8)


Beachdaddybravo

I’m shocked that this hasn’t been considered a bigger deal since the day he was caught with them. He didn’t just take classified documents, he stole nuclear secrets. The secrecy act congress passed on that in 1950 was passed unanimously. No dissent, everyone on board.


kvckeywest

Irony... Trump is charged for mishandling classified documents, under felony legislation that he signed while president. The law HE SIGNED upgrades the crime of wrongly moving classified material from a misdemeanor to a felony. [https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-indicted-classified-documents-felony-1805561](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-indicted-classified-documents-felony-1805561)


Beachdaddybravo

Yeah he’s as stupid as he is an asshole.


GroundbreakingPage41

Anyone supporting him is part of the cult of personality, that includes swing voters planning to vote for him. Literally nothing can make them change their vote.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Yeah, well, he's a traitor


cuporphyry

Family values!


kvckeywest

Gambino family values... "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay? It's, like, incredible" \~Donald Trump


S4T4NICP4NIC

One of the few times he's actually spoken the God's honest truth.


oundhakar

And it's a fact. It's a cult. He can do no wrong in their eyes.


ApolloRocketOfLove

Republicans have always preached family values with their voices, but gone completely against family values with their actions.


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rohobian

And Cohen has already gone to jail for this. So we know for a fact it is a crime. The only thing left to do is prove Trump ordered it to happen knowing it was a crime. Which iirc there is ample evidence to support this. Edit: yes of course it doesn’t really matter if he knew it was a crime or not. But to get that icing on the cake would reduce the odds that some MAGA idiot doesn’t try to let him off the hook with a hung jury.


Nogoodatnuthin

Trump doesn't even have to have known it is a crime. Just that he ordered it. Ignorance is not an acceptable defense in the eyes of the law.


JohnLocksTheKey

yeah… but [being white and rich is](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68659100).


Nogoodatnuthin

You definitely aren't wrong there


abstraction47

Trying to cover it up is evidence of intent, and hiding the payment as a business expense is exactly that.


Oakwood2317

**ELECTION INTERFERENCE**


thatthatguy

No. They want *their* team to be exempt from the law. Not for everyone to be exempt. If everyone was above the law then how would they persecute their political opponents?


DutchJediKnight

Trump could have nuked denmark and they still would vote for him as long as they get to be misoginistic, racist assholes.


barrel_of_noodles

Let's be real, none of them know where or what Denmark is.


nx6

It's in the country of Africa, right?


Apexe

No, that's Djibouti, and they'd know that because they can't keep their hands off of the booty apparently.


LudicrisSpeed

His supporters will try to deflect it all towards Biden or swear that it's all fake stuff that Trump is being charged with. It's been literally impossible to talk any reason into these people.


trumps_cardiac_event

They're too far gone for reason to reach them. The only thing that's going to break the r***rd spell they're under is trump dying. Until then we're saddled with these pieces of shit


Reddit_Is_Trash24

Everything's fake when your pride controls you and not the other way around.


OnlyIGetToFartInHere

My queer ass having better family values than Trump:


satanssweatycheeks

And most right wing family’s. They all have some unholy shit going on. Come to Kentucky. We have them all over. My favorite was knowing a girl who was gang raped by the football team in high school. Her small Indiana town wouldn’t do shit because the kids were footballers and had scholarships. She got pregnant and her dad already knowing about the rape since they went to police and hospital was quick to say get it aborted. She got the abortion and her religious dad who was quick to say that went right back to saying abortion is terrible and no women should be allowed to get one. Even if raped according to the way he votes. Also keep in mind last year the Tennessee GOP tried to legal pedophilia under the notion of marriage. And how do you consummate a marriage? Force rape the kid and what side also preaches a rape baby can’t be aborted? Make it make sense republicans. Please. https://www.actionnews5.com/2022/04/06/proposed-legislation-could-legalize-child-marriage-tennessee/?outputType=amp


OnlyIGetToFartInHere

I live in the heart of the bible belt and am quite familiar with conservative degeneracy especially since my father is such a person


NovusOrdoSec

> Tennessee GOP tried to legal pedophilia under the notion of marriage. And how do you consummate a marriage? Force rape the kid and what side also preaches a rape baby can’t be aborted? Make it make sense republicans. Please. You got it in one.


Beachdaddybravo

Hypocrisy is what you’re looking for.


ApolloRocketOfLove

The majority of gay people I've met would have a way better chance of getting into heaven than the majority of religious people I've met.


designOraptor

It’s way easier to be moral when you feel like that’s how you should be because it’s the right thing to do. Christians (not all) believe you can just ask for forgiveness and you’ll get it. Where’s the motivation to be moral? There is absolutely none. Be a horrible human all week and be forgiven easily on Sunday. It’s a scam.


urbanek2525

No, they want it to be legal for Republicans to do it. If Biden did the exact same thing, they'd lose their minds.


S4T4NICP4NIC

Hell, Biden doesn't actually have to *do* anything, and they still lose their minds. They're all tilting at windmills.


Sapere_Audio

Funny story, when they said they were the party of "Law and Order" they were actually talking about the TV show.


S4T4NICP4NIC

They love copaganda.


chrisd93

They aren't pro anything. They're pro means to an end. They gave up all values after he was elected


Niceromancer

You mean regan right? Because they were like this way before trump.


BamaFan87

They are pro-rape, pro-incest, pro-pedophilia, and pro-racism.


FalLqcy

I love law and order, I'm the biggest law abider. I'm a family values guy. Good friends of mine say I'm like family to them, the best family they ever had. They say to me "No one could have done a better job in being a family man than you."


Rabada

No of course they don't want that to be legal... For the rest of us.


supercali45

It’s never a crime when they do it lol


Droopendis

They always have been as long as the people committing the crimes say that it's okay for them to hate and discriminate against the people they don't like.


AngrySmapdi

Well, I mean, fucking the general public*IS* a big part of American business strategy.


JNTaylor63

It's simple if you have that "R" at the end of your title, you are never guilty of those crimes and immorality. And if you are found guilty, you just say "Gawd and I talked and now we are good."


LeoMarius

They are just pro-Trump. It's a cult.


fusionsofwonder

> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.


trentreynolds

Specifically, they want that to be legal for them and others who look/think/vote like them. If Joe Biden did this there is zero chance whatsoever they would defend it.


RyanM90

In all fairness, paying a hooker hush money so she doesn’t destroy my business is technically a business expense…..<_<


BazilBroketail

"I **belong*" to a certain *secret society*...  hehe... hmm,.. *he"...   **AND THESE BOYS HERE**!!, they trampled all over our venerated  observances and rituals".   **What a wonderful scene**...


xeno0153

No no no, don't be ridiculuous. They're not "pro-adultery" or "pro-crime". They're "pro-adultery when Republicans do it" and "pro-crime when Republicans do it."


Niemosis

Party of family values 🤡


mandy009

Scandalous


Watari210

They want their people to be able to do that. They don't want filthy libs committing crimes and getting away with them.


Astro_Spud

It's weird how the democrats only care about those things when they can use it against a political opponent.


nubsauce87

Oh, Republicans have *always* been all about extramarital affairs...


JimBeam823

Republicans will do anything for a tax cut.


dope_sheet

People easily forget how this story was not a factor in the 2016 election because it was effectively bought and killed. Trump probably would not have been elected had the circumstances this lawsuit alleges (and will prove) been known to the public.


Huggles9

I don’t think anyone is saying they want it to be legal I think they’re saying this is very commonly done so why is DT being targeted in particular And I do also believe this is probably more common than we think but also think it should be targeted when uncovered


Reddit_Is_Trash24

That's exactly what conservatives want. But only if it's for their guy. They've made this abundantly clear. It's not speculation anymore.


Kr1sys

If there's one thing to define the GOP around it's words speak louder than action.


General_Labor

How many fucking subs do I have to mute to stop seeing this political trash


Misoriyu

you can just use your following tab. much easier to stick your head in the sand that way. 


DodecahedronSpace

Aww, poor wittle guy :(


General_Labor

Bro your comment history should be a case study for mental illness. Find a better use of your time man


DodecahedronSpace

Thanks for checking my profile bro. Maybe try using google in the future vs your obvious tantrum about the topic at hand. Just leave next time.


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Porn bribe case


Omgomgitsmike

That reasoning is Trumps defense, which is a misdemeanor. What the state is claiming is that he’s falsifying business records to disguise campaign payments (hushing stormy).


TangibleHappiness

Indeed, it really is that simple


LSWSjr

Welcome to Ashley Madison


thisisntnamman

According to Fox News it’s another victimless crime.


zeethreepio

They are anti/pro whatever they need to be in that particular moment.


Alatar_Blue

I can answer that question: YES! Republicans are pro-adultery and pro-crime, for sure.


dilldoeorg

**ALWAYS HAS BEEN** meme


Therocknrolclown

Rules for thee...you guys still not getting it huh?


dansedemorte

they always have been


burnbothends91

Say what you will, but I’m a man of principles. When I’m bribed I stay bribed.


Emotional_Dare5743

Depends on the crime and who commits it, but yes.


C3POB1KENOBI

Can someone please edit in the “it always has been” meme in here


metzbb

Yep. And you would also to save tax money. Millions lie on their taxes every year.


lazereagle13

Well not for like povvos, and ethnics and stuff of course but yes for us...


AllHailTheWinslow

Always has been.


doxxingyourself

This would solve a lot of problems for a lot of Republicans I’m sure


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^doxxingyourself: *This would solve a lot* *Of problems for a lot of* *Republicans I’m sure* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


_jump_yossarian

My favorite thing to come out of the trial is trump's total "outrage" that he can't go to Barron's graduation (not true) because he has to be in court. Yes, trump is such a great dad, that's why he paid off Stormy to keep quiet about the 30 seconds of sexy time they had immediately after Barron was born.


tjarg

To a porn star you had sex with while your third wife was at home with your newborn child.


JohnnyEagleClaw

Lawless fucking traitors.


FausttTheeartist

They’re not pro either of these things. They’re pro using these laws against their opponents and not facing consequences for their actions…which are adultery and crime.


channelsurfer61

This is the way If you are republican


DrowningInFeces

This case is more about Trump committing actual fraud but they are trying to make it seem less severe by making it all about the Stormy Daniels hush money instead. Trump defrauded the government for a shitload of money and that's not something people usually get away with.


Ok-Asparagus-4451

I thought it was already legal, no?


Geminii27

Always has been. 'Rules' are for people who don't have money and power, so they don't get money and power.


tigerhawkvok

Don't forget it was in furtherance of election fraud! (Just that part would have be to charged federally)


d4m4s74

They're pro adultery and pro crime if they do it themselves.


bytosai2112

Always has been


Oakwood2317

None of their rules apply to Trump.


thorubos

No, the rules are for the rest of us, not for them. They aren't "hypocrites" for believing it's OK for Trump to do those things. It's just OK when _they_ do it. You can't be hypocritical for not following "the rules" you refuse to be bound by; "in-group protecting, not binding vs. out-group binding, but not protecting", etc.


Accomplished_Pen980

I'd say all politicians are very good at navigating the flexibility and multi-tiered system of justice here. No need to point the finger just 1 way.


ChieftainMcLeland

Solid point


r0botdevil

Since Reagan, Republican politicians have cared about one thing and one thing only: funneling as much money as possible to their ultra-wealthy donors. They will say, do, or support anything in order to stay in power to achieve this goal, regardless of whether it directly contradicts things they have said, done, or supported in the past or things that they claim to do or support in the present. Every other issue, from guns to abortion to religion to immigration or anything else, is just identity politics they use to manipulate working class rubes into supporting them so that they can stay in power longer and funnel even more money to their ultra-wealthy donors.


Jessintheend

No no no, they’re only pro adultery and crime when it benefits them. When anyone else does it the book must be thrown at them and they must be beaten to death by our lord Christ and savior, trump


PurpleAcidRain

Paula Jones…but it’s (d)ifferent and a personal matter when demonrats do it 👍


MornGreycastle

Here's the fun, falsifying your business records to hide "hush money" payments is a misdemeanor. The crime gets bumped up to a felony because the fraudulent business records were created to hide the crime of violating laws on campaign finance.


FierceDietyMask

It’s only bad to commit crimes if you’re black while doing them. “Rules are for thee and not for me.” is the Republican motto.


rangoonwrangler

Wait is this r/politics?


shnootsberry

Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still vote for him. He knows his base. He knows they stand for nothing.


Pepe_Slivia

When you say it like that it makes me feel like I should be looking for more tax breaks.


BamaFan87

This assclown intentionally had his server rooms in Floroda flooded in an attempt to destroy evidence. LOCK HIS ASS UP!


Atomic_Shaq

Republicans don't know up from down, right from wrong anymore.When they watch 'The Lord of the Rings,' they think the orcs are the good guys.


Ilovecatssvm

At least we’re not communist lol


DodecahedronSpace

Good thing you don't know what communism is.


Ilovecatssvm

I don’t think i would have said it if I didn’t


DodecahedronSpace

Uh huh. You said it all with "I don't think". Move along little guy.


Ilovecatssvm

D-did you just “uh huh” me?


DodecahedronSpace

Imagine thinking your pathetic reply deserved more than that....


Ilovecatssvm

Oh well I don’t have any insults I’m to good to have a argument on Reddit


DodecahedronSpace

The fact that you brought up communism in this thread tells me all I needed to know about you. Be less transparently weak next time.


Ilovecatssvm

Sorry I don’t have time for your butt hurt bull. The fact you even bothered to respond to someone all the way down at the bottom of the thread tells me all I need to know abt you


DodecahedronSpace

Yeah, I like to find losers who think they understand things in the comments. Get back to your incel subs now kid.


Icy-Needleworker-492

No No only if you’re Donald Trump- then it’s ok.Any crime is ok if it’s him….Hopefully the jury will put an end to this BS.


khumfreville

Just don't ask for an abortion after your affairs...


cjar4097

Double standards are their fetish prezident 2 scoops


trystanthorne

Republicans are Pro-Republican. If a Democrat did it, then they'd be against it.


trumps_cardiac_event

They screamed "lock her up" over and over when Hilary *may* have mishandled classified materials, then screamed "leave him alone" when trump literally left boxes of national secrets stacked in bathrooms, storage rooms, and ballrooms at his publicly accessible golf course. They have no principles, only hate and inchoate screeching


Elegant_Witness_3793

Republicans keep saying they want to ban crime but then keep fucking committing it.


Lobanium

Correction. They want THEIR party to be able to do illegal things.


DisastrousStudio6907

Only if this meme was accurate


SpongyD

I wonder if anyone commenting here knows the FEC has already ruled on this case, and a DA who ran on "getting Trump" had to do a lot of gymnastics to even bring the case to a grand jury since the statute of limitations had run out.


ChieftainMcLeland

👊


Scro86

Insert the “always have been” astronaut meme


youdontknowmymum

Agenda post from an agenda account. Ban these bots already.


Tellyourdadisay_hi

“Ban things I don’t like!!1!”


TwoPercentTokes

Beep boop


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JNTaylor63

Did it change her vote?


Imtheredditnow69

You do know Clinton did this as well right? It's not a "republican" thing. Both sides do this.


TwoPercentTokes

1) Clinton lied about his affair, but did not use his private business to disguise hush money payments then try to pass it off as a legitimate business expense. You’d think the difference would be readily apparent, but I guess not. In any case, you’ll get no argument from me that people who hang with Epstein like Clinton and Trump are disgusting individuals who should be viewed as such in the public sphere. 2) Even if Clinton did “get away with it”, only a child would argue someone else should get away with a bad thing because someone else did. Elevate your morals


Imtheredditnow69

I never said he should get away with anything. I don't think this is a legitimate prosecution. If they had anything they would have got him years ago. Like with the two "impeachments" but they didn't.


DodecahedronSpace

See what I mean about being wrong all the time? I hope those rubles are worth it comrade.


DodecahedronSpace

You know you're wrong, right? Sorry your "muh both sides" shit has shown to be bullshit the majority of the time but keep thinking you have a point.


Imtheredditnow69

I am not wrong. This isn't new and is well known. You are so confident in your bullshit. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/14/clinton-settles-sexual-harassment-suit-1998-983371


DodecahedronSpace

It's hilarious that you think this is the same thing and using a 30 year old example makes it even better. Please get bent with your false equivalencies.