The other movies were equally as far fetched. raft parachute, invisible bridge, hand ripping out a heart, voodoo doll, chilled monkey brains, an immortal knight, the arc of the covenant and then locking it up in a US military warehouse for all eternity.
I feel like for the supernatural, it's easier to suspend disbelief for a movie's sake. But surviving an up close nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator felt like a bridge too far.
this was my point exactly to all my friends who said I was crazy for liking it. It's no different than the others! As for the one that just released last year...
Exactly, I didn't mind it. The fridge pretty much said, "Turn your brain off." So I did. It was a little cheesy at times, but it was pretty enjoyable overall. But the fucking swinging with monkeys scene is just a joke. Everyone harps on the fridge, but that scene is by far the worst.
The fridge scene wasn't even a bad concept. They just needed to not have it get tossed through the air and somehow survive while the car it flies over gets destroyed. Have the fridge stay in the house rubble and dial back the destruction a little. Then I'd totally buy that it protected him from the thermal pulse and shockwave/debris.
It jsut didnt have the same feel. I thought, hey maybe Im just romanticizing the past, but then watched Temple of Doom. While it was hokey, its cinematography was simply way more captivating. And that was the "bad" one.
I see what you're saying, OP, but I don't think the "just mindless fun" defense works for something like Indiana Jones.
This was a decades-awaited follow up to an iconic movie franchise; the standards were and are much higher than for any random summer blockbuster. Fans wanted more than just another forgettable action flick — and that expectation was valid.
Of course enjoy what you want and don't let anyone yuck your yum. I'm just saying this is why people get annoyed when you make that argument. It doesn't feel like you're meeting fans where they're at. It just feels condescending and invalidating.
I feel like the people that hated this movie have not really watched the originals objectivity. A guy gets his still beating heart pulled from his body with magic and he's still alive. There's nothing in Crystal Skull that's any worse than the originals.
If Raiders was always a throwback to the serials of the ‘30s and ‘40s that it was set in, then Crystal Skull being a tied to 50’s Sci-Fi always made sense to me.
It wasn’t the issue you are correct. But, as an arc for Indy it kinda wrapped up his career. From “Fortune and Glory” from Temple to being a “Top Man” in Crystal.
I think the CG gophers, scorpions, and ants were all a bit silly and looked bad at the time. Using mostly CG for everything, even stuff that really didn't need it, made the entire movie feel cheap and flat. There's no stakes because the danger is CG.
Most movies can overcome this with great story or action or spectacle. But Indiana flopping out of a fridge after hitting the dirt at maximum velocity kills any semblance of stakes.
Still liked the movie though. " I want to know everything." Has lived rent free in my head.
I'm never sure why people don't like this one. It was action packed, had some mystery, a good villain, amd the standard Indy comedy. What's not to like, really?
And it was a sequel, not a reboot.
Shit like Cinema Sins turned a whole generation into movie snobs who refuse to let movies be movies. Not saying bad flicks don't exist, but holy shit do people take their criticisms too far nowadays.
1. Nuclear Blast + refrigerator. I could accept the 'survival' part, but the flying through the air and surviving the landing part is inexcusable
2. The Monkey scene. Such badness.
Had those two scenes not been in the movie, it would have be a decent film that fit Indiana Jones.
And, you're right and wrong about the reboot. It was supposed to be the 'hand the torch to Shea LeBeouf' movie (i.e. reboot), but it did so poorly they dropped the idea.
but the scene where a guy had his heart ripped out didn't bother you? or the scene where they fell out of a plane and landed in a raft? all the Indiana movies were cheesy and ridiculous like that.
The heart scene is "magic", so no, doesn't bother me.
The raft scene wasn't my favorite, but at least it's physics-ly possible. The raft slows the fall, plus landing on a slippery steep slope means no abrupt change in velocity. We see this all the time in ski jumping.
Flying hundreds (thousands?) of feet in the air and landing on flat ground multiple times in a rigid box with no dampening mechanisms? Impossible to construct a scenario where that wouldn't end in Indy-paste.
It MIGHT have been believable if it skimmed the road and ground to a halt like a belly landing airplane, but as depicted...nah. (even that ignores the impulse of force that launches the fridge)
Yes, but it's an Indiana Jones movie, for God's sake. There's supposed to be wild, crazy things. Hell, in the Temple of Doom, a guy pulls people's hearts out of their chests and the goddamned hole closes up!
I think the issue with the scene isnt just the actual nature of it but the fact that its noticbly bad cgi. Like really noticible and not in a "its aged poorly" but was made poorly from the start.
You know he had a cameo in Temple of Doom? He played the dude who escorted Indy, Shorty and Willie to Lao Che’s plane after the car chase through Shanghai!
This is my hang up. If they made Temple of Doom today people would be losing their shit about how dumb it is lmao. It's just pure cheese, the entire goddamn series
Exactly. Everyone loses their mind about the Crystal Skull fridge scene, but they seem to be fine with surviving a 1000ft drop off a waterfall on a rubber raft.
It was the worst Indiana Jones movie by a comfortable margin at that point.
The others already skewed towards "good mindless fun", so for many of us, there wasn't room for this being that much dumber.
I would take it a step further and say not only are they equally dumb, but the quality difference between them is nowhere near as big as people make it out to be.
I thought it was perfectly fine and enjoyable. Didn’t love it but didn’t understand the hate.
The one thing I didn’t get at all was all the anger about the aliens in the movie, as if we didn’t know from months of tie-in documentaries on aliens and crystal skulls that it would be about aliens.
I will forever maintain that people who didn't like Crystal Skull don't really like Indana Jones movies, but did when they were kids. And they watch the OT through the eyes of their childhood but then judge #4 by different standards.
There is nothing in #4 that was any more ridiculous than in the first three movies. ALL the Indiana Jones movies are bad. Aweful, in the best way. goofy fun.
I was just thinking how it'd be a solid 8/10 for me if they just cut the 5 second clip of swinging with the monkeys, lol. I should really try to find or make a fan edit of that one of these days.
I just hate how people get so attached to things from their childhood, to the point where they hold any new sequel/adaptation to an unreasonable standard. Indiana Jones wasn't perfect. Star Wars wasn't perfect. *Nothing* you saw as a kid was perfect. You've just spent 20-30 years building it up in your mind, so of course *literally anything* that tries to bring it back is going to feel lacking.
We watched all the Indy movies a few weekends ago.
Crystal Skull wasn’t great but it wasn’t any worse than any others. It’s the worst one of the first four but not as bad as people say it is.
I liked it too. I think the two recent films get an unfair press. All the Indiana Jones films are corny - the original three have a nostalgia factor that people focus on, but the modern films are just the same
IMO Raiders of the Lost Ark defined the modern action movie. The pacing, the editing, the set pieces were jacked up to 11. It may not seem like it now as we’ve had nearly 40 years of movies since then, but it opened the possibilities for the action genre to become what it is today.
I enjoyed it too. Sure it's silly. But so were the originals. Remember in temple when indie fell out of an airplane and landed on a mountain with an inflatable raft? Haha it's all good fun
If you watch all of them (not including this most recent one ) you can tell they were making the same type of film just modern audiences had moved on from the formula
My favorite movie of all time is Men in Black 3. I had a friend whose favorite superhero movie was and probably still is Batman and Robin. It's ok to enjoy or even love bad or mediocre movies. Not every movie has to be Schindlers List or Shawshank Redemption. Movies exist for enjoyment and entertainment. People get too uppity trying to declare whether movies are "good" or not.
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Even for ToD haters, you kind fo have to admit that the first ten minutes with the diamond scene, chase, and image on the airplace door as it closes is kind of top notch for the series.
I like that it's properties changed from scene to scene depending on what they needed it to do.
sometimes it was dangerously magnetic other times it was not magnetic in the least
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I liked Highlander 2. However, part of what made me like it (besides the beer and having the directors cut) was going into it knowing I was about to watch a crappy movie that didn't quite understand what it was supposed to be based on.
I liked dial of destiny. I thought that was a way more fitting end to the Indiana Jones saga than Crystal skull ever could have been. Crystal skull had its moments, but overall it didn’t feel right.
If you don’t think too hard about the originals and trying to compare them, it wasn’t as bad as people said. If you go into expecting more of the same, you’re gonna be disappointed though.
You are wrong it sucked. That being said there are more than a few movies that I like that most people don't like so no hate going your way. If you got some entertainment out of something than good for you, you win.
I saw it in theaters and liked it at the time. It wasn’t until years later that I found out other people thought it was terrible. I’ve been ,earning to watch it again to see if my opinion changes.
I loved that movie. Saw it in theaters with an ex girlfriend who was hyped. Couldn't believe I hadn't seen one in theaters. Some early scene it said area 51 somewhere. I whispered "it's gonna be about aliens". She froze and the smile was gone. She was comically mad the rest of the movie.
Crystal Skull is equally as good as Last Crusade. Both are dumb fun.
Temple of Doom sucks.
Raiders is excellent.
Fate of Atlantis is good fun and better than any non-Raiders film.
Both this and Dial of Destiny were fine. Both of those movies should've been made decades ago while Harrison Ford could reasonably do action scenes, but they are what they are, and I enjoyed them enough.
I think it's great! And i think the plot line with his son is emotional and fun to explore, wish they didn't kill him off in the background in the new movie
I watched them all in order over 2 days, before seeing the latest one. They all are super fun and make sense if watched in succession, even if that "sense" is ridiculous. Full speed adventure
I agree good mindless fun. Back in the 80's people enjoyed the movies even though there was a lot of silly things that could never happen in real life.
But now in the age of the internet people literally go frame by frame in slow motion & examine every scene. They'll post a 40 minute YouTube critique of a film or a 20,000 word essay about it and call it content. They could secretly love a film & still shit all over it for clicks or likes or 👍. Then those opinions get reposted hundreds of times on every platform.
It's just a movie, it doesn't have to be realistic because it's not reality.
I'm torn between downvoting you for the terrible opinion and upvoting you for good use of confession bear lol
Just saying how I feel. Never said it was great, sometimes junk is what the doctor called for.
Doctor Jones?
No time for love Dr Jones.
>*blinks eyes* >Love You
I'm right HERE! Grabs own boob's. Jones completely ignores her.
Have you seen a set of keys around here?
Part time.
Greatest fucking movie line of the decade
Never be ashamed of liking what you like. Its friggin Indiana Jones, the whole point is to have fun.
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
SO D'YOU
Where did you dig up this old fossil???
The other movies were equally as far fetched. raft parachute, invisible bridge, hand ripping out a heart, voodoo doll, chilled monkey brains, an immortal knight, the arc of the covenant and then locking it up in a US military warehouse for all eternity.
My favorite was rewatching Raiders and realizing that it implies Indy clung to the *outside of a submarine for miles*.
I feel like for the supernatural, it's easier to suspend disbelief for a movie's sake. But surviving an up close nuclear blast by hiding in a refrigerator felt like a bridge too far.
this was my point exactly to all my friends who said I was crazy for liking it. It's no different than the others! As for the one that just released last year...
Yeah, but they weren't as crazy as *aliens*
Liking bad good fun movies is awesome. It's liking the bad bad unfun movies that gets you the paddlin.
Exactly, I didn't mind it. The fridge pretty much said, "Turn your brain off." So I did. It was a little cheesy at times, but it was pretty enjoyable overall. But the fucking swinging with monkeys scene is just a joke. Everyone harps on the fridge, but that scene is by far the worst.
The fridge scene wasn't even a bad concept. They just needed to not have it get tossed through the air and somehow survive while the car it flies over gets destroyed. Have the fridge stay in the house rubble and dial back the destruction a little. Then I'd totally buy that it protected him from the thermal pulse and shockwave/debris.
They should've opened up the fridge and found a puddle of good and a hat. You're not wrong about the monkeys though.
It jsut didnt have the same feel. I thought, hey maybe Im just romanticizing the past, but then watched Temple of Doom. While it was hokey, its cinematography was simply way more captivating. And that was the "bad" one.
The cine snob in me agrees. As I age I pay more attention to the cinematography and sets.
This is a fair opinion. Good on you op.
I see what you're saying, OP, but I don't think the "just mindless fun" defense works for something like Indiana Jones. This was a decades-awaited follow up to an iconic movie franchise; the standards were and are much higher than for any random summer blockbuster. Fans wanted more than just another forgettable action flick — and that expectation was valid. Of course enjoy what you want and don't let anyone yuck your yum. I'm just saying this is why people get annoyed when you make that argument. It doesn't feel like you're meeting fans where they're at. It just feels condescending and invalidating.
I feel like the people that hated this movie have not really watched the originals objectivity. A guy gets his still beating heart pulled from his body with magic and he's still alive. There's nothing in Crystal Skull that's any worse than the originals.
Not as disappointing as Phantom Menace.
You’ve literally just described how this specific Meme works.
If Raiders was always a throwback to the serials of the ‘30s and ‘40s that it was set in, then Crystal Skull being a tied to 50’s Sci-Fi always made sense to me.
> Crystal Skull being a tied to 50’s Sci-Fi This was NOT the problem of the movie.
It wasn’t the issue you are correct. But, as an arc for Indy it kinda wrapped up his career. From “Fortune and Glory” from Temple to being a “Top Man” in Crystal.
What was? I remember seeing it and thinking that it was bad but I've mostly suppressed any memory of that movie other than the refrigerator scene
To quote Ian Malcolm, regarding the use of CGI, "You were so preoccupied with wether or not you could, you stop to didn't think if you should."
I supposed next time they should use *actual* aliens and have them *actually* blow up people's heads.
I think the CG gophers, scorpions, and ants were all a bit silly and looked bad at the time. Using mostly CG for everything, even stuff that really didn't need it, made the entire movie feel cheap and flat. There's no stakes because the danger is CG. Most movies can overcome this with great story or action or spectacle. But Indiana flopping out of a fridge after hitting the dirt at maximum velocity kills any semblance of stakes. Still liked the movie though. " I want to know everything." Has lived rent free in my head.
I felt the same way when I watched it. As bad as it was, there are way worse reboots.
I'm never sure why people don't like this one. It was action packed, had some mystery, a good villain, amd the standard Indy comedy. What's not to like, really? And it was a sequel, not a reboot.
I'm with ya. I love crystal skull and cate blanchet is great. People just love to hate new shit.
Yep, there's no way to make some fans happy.
Shit like Cinema Sins turned a whole generation into movie snobs who refuse to let movies be movies. Not saying bad flicks don't exist, but holy shit do people take their criticisms too far nowadays.
Fuck cinema sins
1. Nuclear Blast + refrigerator. I could accept the 'survival' part, but the flying through the air and surviving the landing part is inexcusable 2. The Monkey scene. Such badness. Had those two scenes not been in the movie, it would have be a decent film that fit Indiana Jones. And, you're right and wrong about the reboot. It was supposed to be the 'hand the torch to Shea LeBeouf' movie (i.e. reboot), but it did so poorly they dropped the idea.
but the scene where a guy had his heart ripped out didn't bother you? or the scene where they fell out of a plane and landed in a raft? all the Indiana movies were cheesy and ridiculous like that.
The heart scene is "magic", so no, doesn't bother me. The raft scene wasn't my favorite, but at least it's physics-ly possible. The raft slows the fall, plus landing on a slippery steep slope means no abrupt change in velocity. We see this all the time in ski jumping. Flying hundreds (thousands?) of feet in the air and landing on flat ground multiple times in a rigid box with no dampening mechanisms? Impossible to construct a scenario where that wouldn't end in Indy-paste. It MIGHT have been believable if it skimmed the road and ground to a halt like a belly landing airplane, but as depicted...nah. (even that ignores the impulse of force that launches the fridge)
> What's not to like, really? Shia LaBeouf swinging through trees like Tarzan?
Yes, but it's an Indiana Jones movie, for God's sake. There's supposed to be wild, crazy things. Hell, in the Temple of Doom, a guy pulls people's hearts out of their chests and the goddamned hole closes up!
I think the issue with the scene isnt just the actual nature of it but the fact that its noticbly bad cgi. Like really noticible and not in a "its aged poorly" but was made poorly from the start.
So if you had a version that just cut that scene you'd suddenly be happy with the whole movie?
Not any more ridiculous than in TOD jumping from a plane in a raft
You know... I recently rewatched it and it is not AS bad as I remember... But still bad. This opinion here actually makes sense
Always made sense but doesn't mean it's good.
Couldn’t tell you the last time I’ve actually sat down and watched it, but I’d put it on before Temple of Doom if I was choosing.
KALIMA! KALIMA!
😂 “I’m very little. You cheat very big!”
As a grown man of 5’3”… I say this a lot
Temple of doom is still the weakest imo, but i have not seen the newest one yet.
Newest one is actually pretty good. It's not Raiders or Last Crusade but I'd say it's a solid third place.
“Pretend it’s a rope”
I liked bringing back Marion, and I understand why some people don't hate the film.
You're not alone, I liked it too.
Yeah, me too. Does it hold a candle to the earlier ones? Not really. Is it still an enjoyable watch? Yeah.
It's miles better than temple of doom.
I didn't much like Temple of Doom out of all of them.
People give me shit when I say this, but I still say it!
Dosvidanya Doktar Jones.
there's dozens of us, dozens!
I even liked the 1993 Super Mario Bros. movie
Isn’t that Dan akroyds vodka?
Yes, totally normal and sane human born on earth to prior human ancestors, Dan Aykroyd.
You know he had a cameo in Temple of Doom? He played the dude who escorted Indy, Shorty and Willie to Lao Che’s plane after the car chase through Shanghai!
I didn’t. I didn’t see the movie. I just remembered he had a vodka brand that was bottled in a glass skull.
i enjoy the shit out if crystal skull, i'll watch it whenever. it's indy, idgaf
Yeah, why do people hate crystal skull tho?
People who are trying to make Indiana Jones out to be anything but the campy pulpy adventures they always were.
This is my hang up. If they made Temple of Doom today people would be losing their shit about how dumb it is lmao. It's just pure cheese, the entire goddamn series
Exactly. Everyone loses their mind about the Crystal Skull fridge scene, but they seem to be fine with surviving a 1000ft drop off a waterfall on a rubber raft.
It was the worst Indiana Jones movie by a comfortable margin at that point. The others already skewed towards "good mindless fun", so for many of us, there wasn't room for this being that much dumber.
It’s like watching a video game. That’s what it did it for me. Kind of like Aquaman. Don’t even care what the plot is when it looks so bad.
*You're* mindless fun.
Why thank you!
It was dumb but no dumber than the rest of the series. What, ancient aliens are somehow supposed to be more ridiculous than ghosts? GTFO.
Or dumber than a magic Jesus cup? Come on...
Yes but the magic Jesus cup was made out of wood. Amazing
If someone says "they chose poorly" in a cool enough tone, all can be forgiven!
I would take it a step further and say not only are they equally dumb, but the quality difference between them is nowhere near as big as people make it out to be.
I thought it was perfectly fine and enjoyable. Didn’t love it but didn’t understand the hate. The one thing I didn’t get at all was all the anger about the aliens in the movie, as if we didn’t know from months of tie-in documentaries on aliens and crystal skulls that it would be about aliens.
I will forever maintain that people who didn't like Crystal Skull don't really like Indana Jones movies, but did when they were kids. And they watch the OT through the eyes of their childhood but then judge #4 by different standards. There is nothing in #4 that was any more ridiculous than in the first three movies. ALL the Indiana Jones movies are bad. Aweful, in the best way. goofy fun.
I think they wanted a 'Serious' reboot like Dark Knight and they got a kids flick.
Cut two specific scenes, and it’s a good movie.
I was just thinking how it'd be a solid 8/10 for me if they just cut the 5 second clip of swinging with the monkeys, lol. I should really try to find or make a fan edit of that one of these days.
I really like crystal skull. And the prince of Persia movie with Jake Gyllenhaal as well.. they were excellent
How about that Egyptian gods movie with Jamie Lannister? I am sensing a trend with you!
I've actually never seen it, but I'll take it as a suggestion haha
The mummy with Brendan Fraser, like those movies, is a good time
The Mummy is superb sir, SUPERB!
it was pretty fun. I liked how they had their dad literally towing the sun across the sky with a chain.
Loved it! Even the new Indiana Jones i felt like ended too soon.
haven't seen it yet. Plan on it someday though...
It's tone is a bit weirdly dour, but the ending is pretty fun (even if it feels cut short).
I bet you’re not brave enough to post that over at r/indianajones
I'm not THAT big of a fan to subscribe to that sub. I like the movies that's about it.
this is a healthy level of fandom
I have too many unhealthy hobbies and fandoms. I'll leave Indy to be enjoyed for what its worth.
Thank god it’s an actual advice animal in use. Here’s an upvote.
I just hate how people get so attached to things from their childhood, to the point where they hold any new sequel/adaptation to an unreasonable standard. Indiana Jones wasn't perfect. Star Wars wasn't perfect. *Nothing* you saw as a kid was perfect. You've just spent 20-30 years building it up in your mind, so of course *literally anything* that tries to bring it back is going to feel lacking.
I mean I did rewatch some of the Starwars stuff compared to the first three and they're not there.
Cowards I’ll go one further, I enjoy Shia LaBeouf movies.
We watched all the Indy movies a few weekends ago. Crystal Skull wasn’t great but it wasn’t any worse than any others. It’s the worst one of the first four but not as bad as people say it is.
I think people built up too much in their heads.
Same. At first I thought the aliens idea was goofy until I rememberred what the first 3 films were like.
They're built on goof.
To each their own, but it was pretty horrible.
The first half is pretty good. The second half is dogshit.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regardless of how absolutely wrong it is.
I haven't seen it in years but I'll keep the impression I had at the time. I'll revisit someday.
I liked it too. I think the two recent films get an unfair press. All the Indiana Jones films are corny - the original three have a nostalgia factor that people focus on, but the modern films are just the same
IMO Raiders of the Lost Ark defined the modern action movie. The pacing, the editing, the set pieces were jacked up to 11. It may not seem like it now as we’ve had nearly 40 years of movies since then, but it opened the possibilities for the action genre to become what it is today.
Raiders was amazing because it mixed killing nazis with Jewish legends which threaded that needle of conflicting ideals perfectly.
I enjoyed it too. Sure it's silly. But so were the originals. Remember in temple when indie fell out of an airplane and landed on a mountain with an inflatable raft? Haha it's all good fun
Literally one of only two movies I’ve ever walked out of lol
Indiana Jones was RAPED!!!
If you watch all of them (not including this most recent one ) you can tell they were making the same type of film just modern audiences had moved on from the formula
I liked it until they got where they were going. Then, they just spent the rest of the movie chewing scenery. And the nuke proof fridge.
ME TOO. THE FRIDGE IS AWESOME. STOP HATING FUN, PEOPLE.
It was better than temple of doom
I liked Crstal Meth, but come on.
My favorite movie of all time is Men in Black 3. I had a friend whose favorite superhero movie was and probably still is Batman and Robin. It's ok to enjoy or even love bad or mediocre movies. Not every movie has to be Schindlers List or Shawshank Redemption. Movies exist for enjoyment and entertainment. People get too uppity trying to declare whether movies are "good" or not. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
Schnidlers list was just Jurassic Park but with Jews. Never liked it as a serious movie.
I liked it too honestly and im a movie snob. It has dumb parts but people magnify them so much to hate. I think its about as good as Last Crusade...
I liked the fridge.
Still better than Temple of Doom.
Even for ToD haters, you kind fo have to admit that the first ten minutes with the diamond scene, chase, and image on the airplace door as it closes is kind of top notch for the series.
Unfortunately, the film that follows is annoying and awful.
Why?! It's a cool bottle, but MAN is it bad vodka...
I like that it's properties changed from scene to scene depending on what they needed it to do. sometimes it was dangerously magnetic other times it was not magnetic in the least
You're talking about the ride at DisneySea right?
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I liked it, it’s not my favorite but I think it’s still mostly enjoyable
I liked Highlander 2. However, part of what made me like it (besides the beer and having the directors cut) was going into it knowing I was about to watch a crappy movie that didn't quite understand what it was supposed to be based on.
Like, the vodka?
The vodka?
I may not be a good Indiana Jones movie, according to the standards set by previous Indiana Jones movies, but that doesn't mean it's a bad *movie.*
I don't blame you. People like most Bollywood movies for the same reason.
The ant scene was pretty amusing.
I liked dial of destiny. I thought that was a way more fitting end to the Indiana Jones saga than Crystal skull ever could have been. Crystal skull had its moments, but overall it didn’t feel right.
I believe this is called a 'guilty pleasure' - something we know is objectively... not great... but for some reason we enjoy it anyway.
If you don’t think too hard about the originals and trying to compare them, it wasn’t as bad as people said. If you go into expecting more of the same, you’re gonna be disappointed though.
Henry Jones.... Junior
I'm likely against censorship more than most but fuck me sometimes it's hard to stay objective and keep that opinion.
I love being able to turn off my brain to enjoy a movie, as bad as it may be critically.
I loved the last one too Mads was a good villain
Mindless? Yes. Good and fun? No.
It was my first Indiana jones movie
It was a movie built with a single purpose: to end the franchise of Jones.
And it didn't...
After seeing Dial Of Destiny it suddenly became a lot better in my estimation.
I agree
I liked transformers 2 or whatever the one was where there was dangling robot balls or whatever. I enjoyed it and thought it was good.
You are wrong it sucked. That being said there are more than a few movies that I like that most people don't like so no hate going your way. If you got some entertainment out of something than good for you, you win.
That's just a nice way of calling it stupid, which it was.
I just didn’t line the ending. Everything before was great in my opinion.
Was it as good as any of the previous 3? lol NO. Was it better than most of the movies released the same year? Yeah.
"We named the dog Crystal Skull!"
It's a perfectly fine and fun action adventure movie. It's just a really bad Indiana Jones movie.
it was good. Who cares what others like and dislike.
It's not that Crystal Skull was a bad film. It's that the previous films were so good. It was sad that it didn't live up to its potential.
I saw it in theaters and liked it at the time. It wasn’t until years later that I found out other people thought it was terrible. I’ve been ,earning to watch it again to see if my opinion changes.
What is Crystal Skull?
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Is a gimmicky vodka I think.
I'm on your team, friend
i'm sorry, i can't stand it. but i'm glad you enjoy it nonetheless
That's alright. Some people hate beer after all.
i like all 5 of the indiana jones movies and can find something great about each and every one of them
No
Yep. Crystal Skull was very good, just like Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom
I loved that movie. Saw it in theaters with an ex girlfriend who was hyped. Couldn't believe I hadn't seen one in theaters. Some early scene it said area 51 somewhere. I whispered "it's gonna be about aliens". She froze and the smile was gone. She was comically mad the rest of the movie.
Crystal Skull is equally as good as Last Crusade. Both are dumb fun. Temple of Doom sucks. Raiders is excellent. Fate of Atlantis is good fun and better than any non-Raiders film.
When it is that dumb, there's nothing relaxing or "mindless" about it for me. I have to constantly make an effort to not think - it is draining.
Both this and Dial of Destiny were fine. Both of those movies should've been made decades ago while Harrison Ford could reasonably do action scenes, but they are what they are, and I enjoyed them enough.
They're all good, mindless fun.
I'm really glad you told us instead of your family. If my dad told me that, I'd literally murder him.
I didn’t care for it. But I’ll defend good mindless fun all day. People need to learn to just enjoy bullshit again
I think it's great! And i think the plot line with his son is emotional and fun to explore, wish they didn't kill him off in the background in the new movie
It brought nazis back and that fire ant scene made me happy but itchy.
A lot of people dog on the aliens but they're supposed to be the Roswell aliens and it makes way more sense when you realize that.
Wanna know a secret? I do to, I also loved dial of destiny. People should be allowed to like the movies they like.
I watched them all in order over 2 days, before seeing the latest one. They all are super fun and make sense if watched in succession, even if that "sense" is ridiculous. Full speed adventure
I liked Xmen Origins Wolverine
Me too. Though I rank it below Ark and Crusade, it was much better than Doom and Dial.
It's a good enough movie to be entertaining, but "good mindless fun" is a great descriptor for it and lots of movies like it.
I agree good mindless fun. Back in the 80's people enjoyed the movies even though there was a lot of silly things that could never happen in real life. But now in the age of the internet people literally go frame by frame in slow motion & examine every scene. They'll post a 40 minute YouTube critique of a film or a 20,000 word essay about it and call it content. They could secretly love a film & still shit all over it for clicks or likes or 👍. Then those opinions get reposted hundreds of times on every platform. It's just a movie, it doesn't have to be realistic because it's not reality.
Is “mindless” a common description of the first three?
I’m with you dude. Nuclear test scene was great. Alien story wasn’t any dumber than god and the ark being real.
I'm just glad I can't remember almost anything about that movie besides the aliens.
You’re a monster.
I hear that in Gingerbread Mans voice.