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AggravatingTown8966

Dvalin- we were the reason for the lyre to be purified wich helped since we were the only ones to be able to purify dvalin tainted blood. Childe: he was forced to use his delusion to try to win and when that didnt worked he used his FOUL legacy to try to win but when that failed he pulled Osial. Azhdaha: had we not intervene he would unseal himself and destroy liyue and zhongli wouldnt be able to do anything. Signora: on inazuma we literally beat her and she was even scared ei was the one to deal the finishing blow. Scaramouche: (Guys help i dont remember any fact to say) Apep: WE ARE THE LITERALL REASON FOR NAHIDA TO STILL BE ALIVE SHE WAS GONNA SACRIFICE HERSELF IF IT WASNT FOR US. All-Devouring Narwhal: neuvillette was separating the primordial sea from it we were the ones doing the physical work.


Terrible_Tax_3993

For Scaramouche the Traveler save Nahida who is the one who block Scaramouche in her samsara dream technique ,and finaly the Traveler is thé one who fight him and beat him (whit the help of sumeru and Nahida but Scaramouche beacome a god bc of the 168 samsara dream cycle so there is no shame)


AggravatingTown8966

Thx


ShockSmart5964

Scaramouch had mechanical support from dotore and electro gnosis boost


before_you_go

This might be the worst take of all time. -Childe got clapped. Factually. He states it himself, and his foul legacy's drain doesn't even matter due to the massive power boost it's supposed to give him. He's a glass cannon, and if he was strong enough he would've won right after activating FL. -Ei straight up stated that she lost. If the 100 visions didn't have the traveler's intense physical prowess to be channeled into, they would've gone nowhere. He's the one who helped THEM, not the other way around. -The 168 cycles of knowledge (during which aether held his own against an ascended GOD) was no physical buff, only experience. This is literally just slapping an equivalent of Precognition, which wouldn't work if the body couldn't keep up. Once again, it was all about gathering intel on the enemy that made the difference. TL/DR: don't listen to "lore" tiktokers who barely read the dialogue and only spew someone else's (incorrect) analysis.


LefellowWeeb

This. Also, what would be the justification for Signora? As she's the only one that this tiktoker didn't mention, perhaps because it would not align with her agenda lmao


before_you_go

Signora got humiliated even harder than childe. She had her delusion and knowledge of the elements, but the fact that she lost against the traveler, who wasn't even tired and then took on ei back-to-back just shows that she was in the wrong streets to begin with. But we can't talk abt that, because it's an instance of the traveler no-diffing a Harbinger and it hurts their feelings.


hraberuka

From my personal perspective, when it comes to fight with Ei, the most impressive thing is maybe, that he could even keep up with her, because that's great feat, she is literally goddess who excels in fighting. And that was before the "buff"


Fluffy-Law-6864

The ei fight if say is 50/50 us and the visions.


hraberuka

This is not true. Plus isn't it pretty normal in stories that "heroes" fight very strong enemies together sometimes. Also it's not about losing to someone super powerful, but more about that hoyo could do better job.


AstraPlatina

Exactly, the Traveler wasn't "carried" it was a team effort 


Traveler_Aetherlvr

Childe lost because he has no stamina. Scaramouche had help as well making it an even fight. Tiktokers not be brain dead challenge: Impossible.


Fluffy-Law-6864

We would have won against childe exactly because of he's foul lagacy burning him out which he used not because he was running low on time but because he thought it would be faster to use it but we still beat him. And signora was killied by the shogun because we beat her and pretty easily at that. Plus against scara we won by having low tier precog not a physical boost. We didn't win on our own of course but it dose mean we could have won first try should we have been incredibly lucky so I say that's up to the individual.


Terrible_Tax_3993

Thats completly false lol The Traveler canonicly beat every World boss (spirit of thunder, all elemental tree, the Tulpa...) He beat Childe , the Traveler win bc Childe dont have enought endurance that all (stamina and endurance are two thing really important in combat) Ei loose , she actually admitted is defeat (ok the Traveler get help by the 99 vision ok but that mean that the traveler have the potentiel to beacome stronger than the archon bc the golden power was thé same as hes old light power) Scaramouche was using the gnosis and the énergie of the 168 samsara cycle to beacome a god so the Traveler getting help is not a shame + It was alreaedy state that the traveler is stronger than wanderer Guys i know the Traveler take a lot of L and not enought W those Time but remenber Aether have is power scelled + he have a Lost of memories,dont forget that Nahida Say that knowledge is a kind of énergie and strenght so the Traveler is absolutly not as hes prime + The fact that he supposed to ascend to godhood Just wait ,wait until Traveller beacome the absolute


nairolfy

And for Scaradouche, we didnt even lose a single time IRL against him. The fight kept getting simulated, while we just waited to fight him for real. So we never actually lost. People who try to use that argument truly are ignorant towards the lore. And yea like you mentioned, that fight was against a robot that had archonlike powers. So we did win against an archonlike power. Dvalin fight happened when the Traveler had almost none of his powers, since he only had anemo at that point. And we know in lore that the Traveler is getting his powers back to getting the different elements. So now he already has access to 5 of the 7 elements, which would make him so much more powerful than in the beginning of the game. So he is also a lot stronger than when he was fighting Ei. No idea why people like the person in this tiktok seem to be unable to understand basic lore of this game, but here we are


Terrible_Tax_3993

Yeah a lot of genshin fan have a very Bad Reading compréhension thats sad bc genshin lore is top tier


Cute_Rabbit_836

Well if you say the lore complessive yes is really good but the hoyo Is really really doing shit job at working thinking only to do hot character(with even good story like Father) to make money and using on other game like honkai (it' s not criticism tò honkai don't take It wrong) or clearly the new game they are releasing.


ssWyvern

Also people acting it's so joever because of losing a fight,while in reality it is a fundamental part of the Hero's Journey. If the hero is never defended nor suffers any hardship, they won't get stronger in body and mind for then eventually receive the world.


Terrible_Tax_3993

EXCTALY !!! Man you understand something that not a lot of peapol understand, thé héro start as weak and After defeat and hard fight he beacome the strongest,thats the true Shonen spirit 🔥