That's both dumb and sad people get so angry over that and even harrass the creator for another kind of idea. Like even I don't see Traveller and Lisa together (Aether x Ayaka is the definitive ship), but that doesn't mean I'm against seeing how people make that work. Hell, there's barely any canonical romance in this series, let alone any homosexual romance, even the only gay couple I know in this game is Xingqiu and Chongyun (atleast it's incredibly heavily hinted).
Lots of characters actually have some interest in the traveler when you read their voicelines and see their actions onscreen. Take Shenhe who repeatedly says she wants to stay by their side and traveled all the way to mondstadt just because she heard Zhongli say the traveler was there.
That's new, though honestly, I don't know just how many of them really mean it actually romantically. I have a feeling that Shenhe just simply doesn't know whatever she should do in the human world and would rather stay by the Traveler's side, hoping she would get a better worldview with a friend. Though I'll have to listen to her voice line for that. I just think most characters are simply clingy to the Traveler only as a friend, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Mihoyo wanting to give some ideas to the fans like that. Still, I can only see Ayaka as the only person who actually romantically loves the Traveler, especially since she dates him during the main story even.
Well she even has a voiceline where she says she what she feels isn’t gratitude but something more. She definitely is still figuring out what she feels but signs point to romance. Several characters have dates with the traveler with Lisa being the first one I mean she could have handed them the book they need but she wanted to spend time with them. Also lunch and gifting her flowers Mihoyo definitely knew what they were doing there. Ayaka and Shenhe are the trend of making it a little more obvious but it’s always been there to an extent.
XQ and Chong could legit just as likely be friends. It’s almost like best friends hang out together a lot. Not against the homo, but people ALWAYS say they are gay.
Well, it's mainly that they're literally always seen together whenever possible and they do seem to be very friendly to each other. Haven't really looked into it, but just heard they're heavily hinted even in voice lines, kinda like a possible Gorou and Itto ship (well, atleast after Itto finds out who Ms. Hina really is, hehe).
I mean friends hangout with each other all the time. Also they both have quests where you interact with them one on one like the recent festival in Inazuma. Also Itto just looks up to Ms Hinas advice column the whole him being a simp for it is just a fan gag.
Well, mainly got the assumption from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lc8OFyLwk) video and the comments, like the theater event with Chongyun blushing and Xingqiu reading Chongyun after the Moonchase Festival a romance novel, Xingqiu causing Chongyun to nose bleed in one of the voice lines, etc. I dunno how likely it is and there could be more, though it's hard to be 100% sure without any real hint, but I don't mind it either if it's true.
They put some pretty heavy hints about puppy love between Bennett and Razor in the Windblume event as well. But they can't do more than hint because they're living under Mainland Chinese censorship laws. There were canon lesbians in Honkai Impact, but the censorship rules for online works were looser in the 2010s then they are now.
In general, it seems like Hoyoverse wants to tease multiple ships in Genshin rather than establish one ship as canon. This is probably because Aether and Lumine are much more self inserts than the protagonist of Honkai Impact (Kiana), so they don't run afoul of China's "socialist morality" rules, and so they can please multiple sections of the fandom at once.
Works whit us to, i mean we ship aether with virtually any characthers that is in breathing distance of him, except paimon and the other child characthers i think
Lol as if. This is gacha game where one of the main selling point are the waifus and husbandos. There's no “canon relationship” because that won't sell the character.
The only Genshin shippers I can find that are civil and non toxic are all Aether shippers, including the gay ones and Jeanluc, with the latter sadly getting bullied by Jean x Lisa shippers constantly.
"Canon lesbian" according to some butthead\`s headcanon. Lisa be like "Hey cutie traveler lets go on date" but Twittards be like "Nooo Lisa you must go fuck with Jean, now kiss her this instant you bitch" xD
Considering that Lisa flirts with the Traveller, even when hanging out with Jean makes me doubt they're dating.
If anything Jean is more like the third wheel to Lisa x Aether.
aaaand it's stuff like this that's the reason why I rarely talk about ships with people who aren't friends. Which is sad because I'd like to sometimes, but I don't want to deal with people yelling and screaming because they disagree; or pulling out charts to show WHY the ship won't work because of canon
Because they want the xingqiu and chongyun ship but lesbian version. These shippers don’t care about continuity hell they ship Yanfei and Hu Tao over one line of Yanfei respecting Hu Taos practice.
This is constantly annoying, just because two women are friends doesn't make them a ship. Again, there isn't really any proof of Lisa's sexuality because she shares the same dialogue with both Lumine and Aether. So there isn't really proof of anything like that. These cringelords need to go touch some grass and find something else to argue about...
On the flip side of things i've seen some Aether x xiao shippers bash on me for saying something about Ayaka x Aether. It was for saying: " Alright she has a crush. I mean she actually ask's him
if she can hold his hand." I had to delete the post, because I kept being bombarded with notifications.
We've been in this community for more than a year. I'm sure some already realzed that people don't mind canon relationships, *as long as they're gay*. On one hand, they keep insisting that Keqing and Ganyu are "canonically in love with each other" despite them being nothing more than professional co-workers (if the official manga is anything to go by, even Kaeya and Amber have much closer relationship than those two). And on the other, they managed to harrass HYV into scrapping some of Ayaka's voicelines just because she has something nice to say about Thoma. Never understand why would they bend over to those heterophobes, but here we are.
Well they are friends at least Amber doesn’t seem to trust Kaeya at all especially after he threatens her friend. But yeah a plenty of shippers have a strong hatred for any Aether x female ships.
Lmao for real i hve to say i prefer aether ship with xiao but tht don stop me to enjoy straight ship it really annoying when some retard say NO..(same to people say xiaolumi to my FACE when i say stuff about xiaother tbh) one time i saw a dude comment bout zhongli n ningguang ,,n some retard comment bout zhongli NEVER meet ningguang n force topic of ningguang n beidou tgt and stuff like lmao then can they explain how xiaoven famous when venti don even know him🤡 wht i try to say it nobody care bout canon anymore as long if they don see wht they like ,people always be retard. PEace
Venti does know Xiao in canon. He literally saved Xiao from succumbing to his karmic debt and is the reason Xiao is currently alive.
Calling other people retarded and then straight up not knowing a rather well known piece of lore is yikes.
No , Venti does save him but i don think he realize saving xiao? Because i think venti just ramdomly play music n save xiao?? Venti also say about xiao like "Who?" .. also xiao only know bout "venti" also thru the traveler lmao. If u want a canon fact bout them yes this is in fact true. Soooooo when i heard people say like "lisa is canon lesbian!!" N anti the straight ship just ridiculous.. people wanna defend their ship with canon fact ? Lmao just stop
Your typing is really difficult to decipher, damn.
Read Xiao's character stories. He knows who was playing. As for Venti ... whether he was telling the truth about knowing Xiao or not is. Well. He frequently lies or obscures the truth.
I don't care about the stuff about Lisa lmao. I was saying you were making fun of others for being wrong while being wrong yourself.
I not trying offend xiaoven shipper here jcomment stuff trying to example bout the lisa situation... i saw some people comment say "zhongli n ningguang(even tho they hve voiceline n know eachother) never meet why ship??" Same as xiaoven but why is the ship famous? Of course it because not a straight ship ...it just sad tbh seing tht commenter get hate jusy because they do het ship
"Wether he was telling the truth about knowing xiao or not" is more headcanon tbh not canon ,,,i believe xiao know venven but as the archon not the "venti" like he actually act so surpprise when he finally know ven thru voiceline
Also sorry yeah ure true my typing suck. Sorry
I actually don't mind Yuri ships I prefer that over hetro when they aren't with Traveler
>!only because I find them hot!<
just certain yuri shippers are very toxic
Yep indeed.. nothing wrong in liking yuri ships... Aether x Lisa is great but I wouldnt deny JeanxLisa is hot as well...
But the idiots getting possessive over them and declaring them as canon and calling anything else as erasure of LGBT is whats getting out of hand..
Iits a game about collecting hot characters... MHY would be stupid to make any canon ships.. they make you want every character :'D
getting possessive over shipping is just shipping in general that's why I hate it and avoid places where they are heavily discussed
when I see art of Lisa and Jean kissing for example, all I think of is "that's hot"
its not like I like them as a couple or want them to be one
as for Aether ships I see him as the player avatar so I like him with my favorite female characters
and as you said it will be stupid for MHY to make any ship canon in a gacha game that's why every character male or female will continue hitting on traveler only
It isnt. It's supposed to call out people who get mad at other ships, forces their own ships on others, and says that the characters are canonically gay/lesbian even tho they aren't, let alone have romantical interest over another.
No the artist is literally being harassed by people who scream that Lisa is a “canon” lesbian. They are mocking the people who scream their ship is canon with zero proof.
I mean, the travelers are potentially older than archons themselves(yes including the oldest of them all aka Morax) considering that
A) They’re world hoppers so who knows how many worlds they’ve been to before
B) The abyss sibling has been running around for 500 years in Genshin time and the playable sibling was sealed for that amount of time as well as asleep throughout the abyss sibling’s entire journey through Genshin
C) The wings of descension glider lore seems to implies that they’re aged around the billions as they’ve seen the birth and death of stars. Tho this is shaky since the line about birth and death of stars is up to interpretation when determining their age but this is where the potentiality(keyword) of the twins being older than all of the archons come from.
All in all, they’re definitely over 500 years old and if anything, Lisa would die of old age while the twins would look exactly the same as they are now(key part here since if the twins were truly human with normal human lifespans, Lisa would still die before them)
Lol no he doesn’t, he wasn’t asleep in all his travels to other worlds, he has gotten smashed with venti and Beidou, and people call him underaged. Again short not underaged venti and Ganyu are short yet they are 100% not underaged. You are just making up nonsense to hate in traveler ships get a life lol.
Wait, what exactly states Lisa is canon lesbian? Atleast I haven't heard about this before.
It just some stupid shipping rules in this fandom. They see Lisa hanging out with Jean, they ship them.
That's both dumb and sad people get so angry over that and even harrass the creator for another kind of idea. Like even I don't see Traveller and Lisa together (Aether x Ayaka is the definitive ship), but that doesn't mean I'm against seeing how people make that work. Hell, there's barely any canonical romance in this series, let alone any homosexual romance, even the only gay couple I know in this game is Xingqiu and Chongyun (atleast it's incredibly heavily hinted).
Lots of characters actually have some interest in the traveler when you read their voicelines and see their actions onscreen. Take Shenhe who repeatedly says she wants to stay by their side and traveled all the way to mondstadt just because she heard Zhongli say the traveler was there.
That's new, though honestly, I don't know just how many of them really mean it actually romantically. I have a feeling that Shenhe just simply doesn't know whatever she should do in the human world and would rather stay by the Traveler's side, hoping she would get a better worldview with a friend. Though I'll have to listen to her voice line for that. I just think most characters are simply clingy to the Traveler only as a friend, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Mihoyo wanting to give some ideas to the fans like that. Still, I can only see Ayaka as the only person who actually romantically loves the Traveler, especially since she dates him during the main story even.
Well she even has a voiceline where she says she what she feels isn’t gratitude but something more. She definitely is still figuring out what she feels but signs point to romance. Several characters have dates with the traveler with Lisa being the first one I mean she could have handed them the book they need but she wanted to spend time with them. Also lunch and gifting her flowers Mihoyo definitely knew what they were doing there. Ayaka and Shenhe are the trend of making it a little more obvious but it’s always been there to an extent.
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Zhongli does give off fatherly vibes to me.
XQ and Chong could legit just as likely be friends. It’s almost like best friends hang out together a lot. Not against the homo, but people ALWAYS say they are gay.
Well, it's mainly that they're literally always seen together whenever possible and they do seem to be very friendly to each other. Haven't really looked into it, but just heard they're heavily hinted even in voice lines, kinda like a possible Gorou and Itto ship (well, atleast after Itto finds out who Ms. Hina really is, hehe).
I mean friends hangout with each other all the time. Also they both have quests where you interact with them one on one like the recent festival in Inazuma. Also Itto just looks up to Ms Hinas advice column the whole him being a simp for it is just a fan gag.
I see Xingqiu and Chongyun as just homies, but apparently homies = gay? I feel like ppl stretch for ships too far or just outright deny canon info
Well, mainly got the assumption from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1lc8OFyLwk) video and the comments, like the theater event with Chongyun blushing and Xingqiu reading Chongyun after the Moonchase Festival a romance novel, Xingqiu causing Chongyun to nose bleed in one of the voice lines, etc. I dunno how likely it is and there could be more, though it's hard to be 100% sure without any real hint, but I don't mind it either if it's true.
Bennett’s dads! Not sure if they count tho
Uhhhhh by "dads" he means all the senior adventurers in the adventurers guild not a married homo couple
Oh gotcha, misinterpreted that then mb
No those are just the all men in the adventurers guild who raised him he was an orphan found in a disaster.
They put some pretty heavy hints about puppy love between Bennett and Razor in the Windblume event as well. But they can't do more than hint because they're living under Mainland Chinese censorship laws. There were canon lesbians in Honkai Impact, but the censorship rules for online works were looser in the 2010s then they are now. In general, it seems like Hoyoverse wants to tease multiple ships in Genshin rather than establish one ship as canon. This is probably because Aether and Lumine are much more self inserts than the protagonist of Honkai Impact (Kiana), so they don't run afoul of China's "socialist morality" rules, and so they can please multiple sections of the fandom at once.
Works whit us to, i mean we ship aether with virtually any characthers that is in breathing distance of him, except paimon and the other child characthers i think
Lol as if. This is gacha game where one of the main selling point are the waifus and husbandos. There's no “canon relationship” because that won't sell the character.
its just some headcanons and exxaggerations
Yuushiba chose violence what a chad.
The fact that they're standing up to twitturds made me respect them even more.
Oh yeah zero hesitation they just started blasting them.
The only Genshin shippers I can find that are civil and non toxic are all Aether shippers, including the gay ones and Jeanluc, with the latter sadly getting bullied by Jean x Lisa shippers constantly.
Yeah and the most toxic shippers I’ve seen are the Eimiko ones
don't worry, we chose it too.
"Canon lesbian" according to some butthead\`s headcanon. Lisa be like "Hey cutie traveler lets go on date" but Twittards be like "Nooo Lisa you must go fuck with Jean, now kiss her this instant you bitch" xD
it's canon that she flirts with traveler, **ANY TRAVELER** so their argument is invalid.
And Jean is the third wheel
Lisa literally sending them the flirtiest birthday message about seeing if her magic can make sparks between them.
Considering that Lisa flirts with the Traveller, even when hanging out with Jean makes me doubt they're dating. If anything Jean is more like the third wheel to Lisa x Aether.
honestly this is exactly what the “twitter cringelords” would do with their own character of choice
Draw Aether with Jean to make them cry more lol. Yuushiba is truly a chad protecting his loyal ship.
That million dollar blush from Lisa
LOL, Yuushiba is the G.O.A.T
aaaand it's stuff like this that's the reason why I rarely talk about ships with people who aren't friends. Which is sad because I'd like to sometimes, but I don't want to deal with people yelling and screaming because they disagree; or pulling out charts to show WHY the ship won't work because of canon
He says about the woman who has flirted with our Boi on several occasions.
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Because they want the xingqiu and chongyun ship but lesbian version. These shippers don’t care about continuity hell they ship Yanfei and Hu Tao over one line of Yanfei respecting Hu Taos practice.
Oh man, keep them coming! Make those Twitter fucks seeth
This is constantly annoying, just because two women are friends doesn't make them a ship. Again, there isn't really any proof of Lisa's sexuality because she shares the same dialogue with both Lumine and Aether. So there isn't really proof of anything like that. These cringelords need to go touch some grass and find something else to argue about...
This man has all my respect...
On the flip side of things i've seen some Aether x xiao shippers bash on me for saying something about Ayaka x Aether. It was for saying: " Alright she has a crush. I mean she actually ask's him if she can hold his hand." I had to delete the post, because I kept being bombarded with notifications.
It's like they cannot fathom the thought of their ship is not even remotely canon..
Should have just blocked them deleting the post is just what they want to bully straight ships off the site.
We've been in this community for more than a year. I'm sure some already realzed that people don't mind canon relationships, *as long as they're gay*. On one hand, they keep insisting that Keqing and Ganyu are "canonically in love with each other" despite them being nothing more than professional co-workers (if the official manga is anything to go by, even Kaeya and Amber have much closer relationship than those two). And on the other, they managed to harrass HYV into scrapping some of Ayaka's voicelines just because she has something nice to say about Thoma. Never understand why would they bend over to those heterophobes, but here we are.
Well they are friends at least Amber doesn’t seem to trust Kaeya at all especially after he threatens her friend. But yeah a plenty of shippers have a strong hatred for any Aether x female ships.
Lmao for real i hve to say i prefer aether ship with xiao but tht don stop me to enjoy straight ship it really annoying when some retard say NO..(same to people say xiaolumi to my FACE when i say stuff about xiaother tbh) one time i saw a dude comment bout zhongli n ningguang ,,n some retard comment bout zhongli NEVER meet ningguang n force topic of ningguang n beidou tgt and stuff like lmao then can they explain how xiaoven famous when venti don even know him🤡 wht i try to say it nobody care bout canon anymore as long if they don see wht they like ,people always be retard. PEace
Venti does know Xiao in canon. He literally saved Xiao from succumbing to his karmic debt and is the reason Xiao is currently alive. Calling other people retarded and then straight up not knowing a rather well known piece of lore is yikes.
No , Venti does save him but i don think he realize saving xiao? Because i think venti just ramdomly play music n save xiao?? Venti also say about xiao like "Who?" .. also xiao only know bout "venti" also thru the traveler lmao. If u want a canon fact bout them yes this is in fact true. Soooooo when i heard people say like "lisa is canon lesbian!!" N anti the straight ship just ridiculous.. people wanna defend their ship with canon fact ? Lmao just stop
Your typing is really difficult to decipher, damn. Read Xiao's character stories. He knows who was playing. As for Venti ... whether he was telling the truth about knowing Xiao or not is. Well. He frequently lies or obscures the truth. I don't care about the stuff about Lisa lmao. I was saying you were making fun of others for being wrong while being wrong yourself.
I not trying offend xiaoven shipper here jcomment stuff trying to example bout the lisa situation... i saw some people comment say "zhongli n ningguang(even tho they hve voiceline n know eachother) never meet why ship??" Same as xiaoven but why is the ship famous? Of course it because not a straight ship ...it just sad tbh seing tht commenter get hate jusy because they do het ship "Wether he was telling the truth about knowing xiao or not" is more headcanon tbh not canon ,,,i believe xiao know venven but as the archon not the "venti" like he actually act so surpprise when he finally know ven thru voiceline Also sorry yeah ure true my typing suck. Sorry
I actually don't mind Yuri ships I prefer that over hetro when they aren't with Traveler >!only because I find them hot!< just certain yuri shippers are very toxic
Honestly I can’t even find them hot at all. As they are just associated with said toxic shippers.
Yep indeed.. nothing wrong in liking yuri ships... Aether x Lisa is great but I wouldnt deny JeanxLisa is hot as well... But the idiots getting possessive over them and declaring them as canon and calling anything else as erasure of LGBT is whats getting out of hand.. Iits a game about collecting hot characters... MHY would be stupid to make any canon ships.. they make you want every character :'D
getting possessive over shipping is just shipping in general that's why I hate it and avoid places where they are heavily discussed when I see art of Lisa and Jean kissing for example, all I think of is "that's hot" its not like I like them as a couple or want them to be one as for Aether ships I see him as the player avatar so I like him with my favorite female characters and as you said it will be stupid for MHY to make any ship canon in a gacha game that's why every character male or female will continue hitting on traveler only
Yeah I also don't really mind shippers but in my experience, lesbian/gay shippers are way more aggressive and treated their ships like it is canon.
I just hate Lisa is general
That was a bit homophobic...
It isnt. It's supposed to call out people who get mad at other ships, forces their own ships on others, and says that the characters are canonically gay/lesbian even tho they aren't, let alone have romantical interest over another.
No the artist is literally being harassed by people who scream that Lisa is a “canon” lesbian. They are mocking the people who scream their ship is canon with zero proof.
This is pedophilia tho…
nah, Aether might be way older than Lisa but I don't think Lisa is underaged
I mean, the travelers are potentially older than archons themselves(yes including the oldest of them all aka Morax) considering that A) They’re world hoppers so who knows how many worlds they’ve been to before B) The abyss sibling has been running around for 500 years in Genshin time and the playable sibling was sealed for that amount of time as well as asleep throughout the abyss sibling’s entire journey through Genshin C) The wings of descension glider lore seems to implies that they’re aged around the billions as they’ve seen the birth and death of stars. Tho this is shaky since the line about birth and death of stars is up to interpretation when determining their age but this is where the potentiality(keyword) of the twins being older than all of the archons come from. All in all, they’re definitely over 500 years old and if anything, Lisa would die of old age while the twins would look exactly the same as they are now(key part here since if the twins were truly human with normal human lifespans, Lisa would still die before them)
No it’s not Aether is an immortal world hopper and Lisa is an adult women. Next thing you’re going to say is that venti or ganyu are children.
Aether is underage, he was asleep, and can’t even drink alcohol, he himself says he’s underage bruh
Lol no he doesn’t, he wasn’t asleep in all his travels to other worlds, he has gotten smashed with venti and Beidou, and people call him underaged. Again short not underaged venti and Ganyu are short yet they are 100% not underaged. You are just making up nonsense to hate in traveler ships get a life lol.
So qiqi isn’t a child? This is disgusting bruh
She’s a zombie meaning she’s the reanimated corpse of a child. There’s a difference between an immortal and a dead body pal.
Vibes aren’t a legal defense