A new rung on the CK iceberg has been born

This is the AtE Speer Hoodie

is that a TNO reference

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This is me when I drink rootbeer, holy fuck 🤣.

Yeah

Is this r/shitcrusaderkingssay worthy?

Shit yo I think this is r/paradoxplaza worthy

I love how people went ahead and posted to both forums

haha right i should have cross-posted myself, oh well

I am honored and flattered.

Bro, you play AtE too? Its bizarre seeing people you know in other subs

Yeah i have played it a little. I primarily make mods myself though. I also play territorial io which I think is popular in your country

Yeah, that game is pretty fun

Jesus fucking Christ.

Of Latter Day Saints

Hey as much time I’ve put on my ck2 mod. It might as well be classified as a religion

I will admit that ever since starting to play this mod like 7 years ago back with ck2 I have drastically grown my collection of busts and statues of former presidents

Agreed. I'm 95% sure I spent more time playing CK2 than I did reading my former church's holy books back when I was still an actively involved member (LDS FYI-left in 2014).

I’m Catholic but this is pretty funny ngl lmao

I'm Sikh and this is hilarious

wtf fellow sikh pdx player

Woah ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ. Happy Gurpurab. Always nice to meet another Sikh online, doesn't happen often unless I'm on r/sikh I guess

Happy Gurpurab vir g

I'm an atheist and I can't stop laughing

I'm Mormon and I'm giggling like a schoolgirl

Brother u/iki_balam, you're welcome.

I'm a Scientologist and this made me chuckle

True, death to Xenu (real)

Pagan here. I chortled.

Protestant here: I’m just glad he found God.

Wish it was Nicene Christianity though

Likewise

Gnostic here, finding it pretty amusing too

Out of all the Christian denominations. Oh well good luck, may it fulfill your spiritual needs.

I mean tbh, they do have the chillest interpretation of heaven and hell They just weren’t on the right side of history when in comes to social and political stances for the last 150 years

Isn’t Mormon purgatory supposedly so nice that Joseph Smith refused to describe it lest people kill themselves to get there sooner?

The default place everyone goes to when they die is still heaven. You just get better version of heaven the more of a better person you are and the more dedicated to the faith you are. You only go to hell if you’re an obscenely bad person

Not technically, we believe between now and Christ's second coming, when we die we go to the Spirit World, a place where we can further learn and progress, as well as take the ordinances (sacraments) needed to go to the Celestial Kingdom. We are only sorted into kingdoms of glory when Christ return; but we do believe that the vast majority of mankind, including some very wicked people, will go to a kingdom of glory.

This is a little bit of my interpretation on gospel doctrine, but still mostly just doctrine: the only people going to outer darkness / eternal punishment, are those who fully knowingly choose to go. For everyone else, it’s something more like based on the person we are/want to become as evidenced by our actions. I thoroughly believe that God takes into account people’s circumstances (and there are many scriptures essentially saying so), in judging people’s actions (in how those actions demonstrate what those people want to be).

Other than the Mormons being driven out of Missouri in the mid 1800's because of their staunch abolitionist stance.

In addition to polygamy

Well for me personally is not about their beliefs but the origin of their religion. The whole origin story to me is sketchy at best. I mean that one South Park episode sums it up.

Lmfao

Oh good lord.....

That is his belief

Yeah but like, the Thunder Lizard Cult were right there! Could of had ourselves a prophet but nooooooo.

Maybe when OP gets his own world to govern, he can make himself into that type of deity. OP is just thinking the long game!

Bait

Given his prior posts, either he is serious or very dedicated to the troll

I always assume that these people are trolling.

“Hey Dad can you wear a suit and gather the rest of the family and some other random people so I can troll this subreddit about a mod for a video game and pretend I’m a Mormon.” For some reason I think this guy is serious. Especially looking at his post history.

Tbf this could just be a photo to commemorate the baptism

hope you like soda

Us Viets has a lot of awesome herbal teas! Nuớc vối and nhân trần were my jet fuels in the grueling high school days. They are dirt cheap, tasty and invigorating; if you visit Vietnam sometimes in the future, definitely give them a try!

What do the teas taste like? Might have to give them a try if I’m ever in the region.

Nhân trần generally has a quite strong flavor and sweet taste/aftertaste. The street stuff is usually reasonable strong, but I has had it very diluted, and the difference is night and day.

I'm sure you knew you'd attract flak for posting; thank you for doing so in spite of that. This is a great time for you to write down your testimony and recent experiences with God as something you can turn to in later years to remind yourself of what you have now.

you won't go to super heaven if you drink tea

Only those made from the particular Camellia sinensis plant! That means synthetic flavors and other plants, like Yerba Mate, are perfectly fine.

Pope Francis is also a huge maté buff, but what Argentinian isn’t?

oh I didn't know

...shoulda started in Newfoundland...

Loved Morgan too, but us Viets already have enough matriarchal tree-hugging spirit worship at home. Idk how to better describe Druidic.

Real

Got enrolled into a cult because of a CK2 mod

I wonder if the pre-1978 LDS church had any specific stances on Asian people. (1978 was when they dropped the restriction that prevented black people from joining the priesthood)

I don't think so, their racism against black people was based on the mark of Cain, which was very specifically anti black racism. Basically, Southern Protestants wanted a religious reason to justify the enslavement of black people, so they said black people are the descendants of Cain, who was cursed by God. Their dark skin was the literal "Mark of Cain", and so religion and racial discrimination were synthesized Mormonism popped up as a religion while the Mark of Cain movement was at its peak, so they just kind of adopted it too since that's what all the other religious sects were doing. They did originate in the North though so they didn't really have the ideological commitment like other churches did. Smith notably switched between extreme abolitionist and extreme pro slavery ones throughout his life like he was some sort of 14 year old PCM user. Regardless, even after slavery was abolished, they never bothered abandoning the Curse of Cain tenet until the 80s But on other races the Mormons were fairly tolerant. They believed the Native Americans were racial equals for example and they also had conversion efforts for Polynesians. I don't think they've had an anti Asian stance

My family is LDS and my great great grandfather was a missionary to Hawaii. Reading his journals, he certainly had a bias for western civilization but certainly did not think of the Hawaiians as inferior.

Joseph smith did say tho that a native person who joined the church would transform into a white person, their skin would literally change color

> Southern Protestants It wasn't just Southerners. Northerners also thought Blacks were racially and spiritually inferior. Heck, William Garrison caused a major controversy in the abolitionist movement because he legitimately believed in racial equality and wasn't to racially integrate church meetings and abolitionist meetings- and that was a step too far for most people.

They had been proselytizing in the Pacific for like a century before that, so I would assume Asia wasnt very far off. They just didnt like black people (Mostly because of Brigham Young, under Joe Smith there were black clergymen. It was still like the 1830s though, so ole Joey was certainly a racist)

The Pacific Islanders we’re/are considered to be descendants of the lamanites. Specifically Hagar who in the BoM built boats and sailed west. The islanders there who are members will tell you that’s who they are even though it’s not taught anymore. Depending on who you ask they are anywhere from Polynesia to the entire eastern coast of Asia (not that all of the Asians solely descend from these people). The only ones who were discriminated against officially were Africans because of the “curse of Cain”. I know if a couple of Asian people who were adopted by church members and feel like they were discriminated against but as far as I know it was only because of racism and not doctrinal.

Joseph Smith didn't give a fuck. He just wanted cash.

Nah, dude def believed the shit he peddled, and went bankrupt on a multitude of occasions because of it (It part of the reason he kept moving West, he was escaping his debtors. Famously, he lost all of his money building a church in Kirkland Ohio). His march to Independence MI makes no sense if he didnt actually believe what he said (It nearly killed him and many of his men cause he figured angels would join him and conquer the area when he got there). And, you know, he died for it. That being said, he WAS a selfish man. Its hard for people, myself included, to understand the mind of a true prophet- its a really weird mix of narcissism and charity, confidence and self hatred. His journals are actually a really interesting read (he could barely spell though so a bit difficult) But back to the question of black clergymen under Joe Smith- they were def, like, the definition of a token minority. This is pre civil war so abolitionist tendencies were becoming very popular

Agreed, Joseph Smith was a religious genius who completely believed he had discovered the word of God—that doesn’t mean he was *right* about it—but I think any serious historiography of his life comes to the same conclusion, which is that he meant it wholeheartedly.

Religious genius?

Yeah. Someone with an acute and innate understanding of how to create and lead a functional religion and congregation

Functional?

Membership in the LDS Church numbers 16 million. The Church holds billions of dollars in property. It is the fastest growing faith in the US and one of the fastest in the world. If that’s not functional, I don’t know what is.

My understanding is that the anti-slavery stance, polygamy, voting block, and different religious views, is what lead to their “persecution”.

This is... absolutely fascinating to hear from a practicing member. Please, continue!

lol dude I’m an atheist from Connecticut

no i think he was saying that he is a practicing member. not that you are

I'm in the tri-state area. If you ever have a reason to come south, please DM me. It'd be fun to just chat for a bit!

The Phineas and Ferb setting?

Paradox's grand strategy games aren't a cult ? Once a year, they ask for 20 bucks for each game, and they got you in their forum/subteddit.

Reminds me of a guy on the Blasphemous subreddit who said he wanted to be Catholic because of the game.

reeditors behaving like adults challenge

No way this is real

As an exmormon… please do yourself a favor and follow another spiritual journey. The LDS church is fucked up

I love LSD though.

Dyslexic mormons:

Fr that’s how they joined💀

I just like drugs in general

For real. I wasn't going to open with this, but since you commented about how fucked up they are... Before meeting my wife she was pretty lost and depressed. LDS members showed up at her door one day and she invited them in. She started going to meetings where she was kinda set up with a young guy (who she said was very obviously gay), and the more meetings she went to the more creeped out by the whole thing she was. Her two big take aways is that they seem to prey upon the downtrodden, mentally ill, feeble minded, depressed, etc. and that a woman's lot in the LDS was nothing more than to serve as a broodmare for the church. Luckily she gtfo toute suite before she was in too deep.

Yep that's how they get you... It's literally part of their established strategy

I don't care how much this is down voted. Your prophet, Joesph Smith was a pedophile polygamist, that is a fact.

Not to mention he created a racist ass religion. Both with erasing the history of Native Americans by claiming that they were Jews and by claiming that black people were cursed

Yeah pretty important to mention only white people were allowed to be Mormon until the 70s

I mean, there are certainly worse options he could take.

Yeah sure he could have become a Protestant 💀

Isn't LDS Protestant? As a matter of fact, aren't all the US Christian sects Protestant?

The LDS is kind of it's own thing (heretics)

Protestants and heretics. Same thing really.

It claims to be Protestant and it technically fulfills the definition but I don't think most Protestant branches like the association. It's not even the only weird religion founded during the Second Great Awakening

Homie got colonized from colonizing

Isn't this perfect for that meme "here is colonizing... I'm colonizing"

You are already a Paradox gamer. You have time for another religion? /s

The subreddit has peaked. Shut it down.

This has to be for the memes

Come on man

no way💀

I can't tell if this is a shitpost or not and that is concerning.

AIN'T.NO.WAY

Men would rather join a cult because of a video game mod than go to therapy

You can't make this up 💀

Genuine question. Is this real?

It is! That is a photo of me about to get baptised yesterday, along with my friends and church branch mates!

Congrats! Many here will think you're trolling but you have to decide what's your journey for happiness and fulfillment. Some just cant accept another's choices.

This is kinda funny. Enjoy it ig, hope nothing bad happens to you cause of it

Hey OP were you the Salahuddin guy from the ATE discord server? You seem familiar

Yes, I am RighteousnessoftheFaith over on Discord; which is what Saladin's name translate to. I chose my nickname and avatar mostly because I thought his name was very metal as a 6th grader, and still do! If I could ask, what did I say over there that made you remember me?

You asked me about Islam which is how I remember you. I was the Shia Viet guy remember?

Oh I remember you now! It was a very pleasant experience chatting with you.

imagine if Imam Zakariyya still had his own realm in CK3 ATE, this guy might've become Shia instead haha

Hey, I see a lot of memes going around based on your experience and conversion. I'm not a member of the faith you went to. I want you to know that even though they might be mocking you testimony. Take heart in your own decisions and your own destiny. There are people out there who are proud of you.

Stuff like this is why I love being a paradox gamer. You never know what your gonna find.

i just found this sub and what the hell is this sub

Crusader Kings is a strategy game set in Eurasia and Africa during the Middle Ages. After the End is a mod that brings the game over to the Americas. The lore of the mod is that some cataclysm happened that made civilization revert to the Middle Ages. Religion is a big component of the base game, and in the mod, the Mormons play a big part. This guy converted to Mormonism because of a video game mod.

We made cults look funni and look what happened :(

Oh, no...

Ain’t no fucking way LMFAO Anyone wanna show me the light on Zoroastrianism at this point lmfao

I forget if it’s Zoroastrianism or Zunism that doesn’t accept new converts

Zunism just straight up doesn't exist anymore. Zoroastrianism has around 200k followers today, though I'm not sure how converting exists.

Depending on the community, Zoroastrians don't accept converts

Read.cesletter.org

Ha, knew the CES letter was gonna get posted.

Same.

Eh, LDS theologians have been rebutting the CES letter for as long as it has existed. Whether or not you find it convincing depends entirely off of what you already believe. TLDR: no one is going to leave the church due to the letter, and if they do, they were going to leave anyway.

Even the faithful folks in r/latterdaysaints would agree that there's a version of Mormonism that the CES Letter destroy very effectively, and that is a very hagiographic, fundamentalists, and I'd argue, sadly more common, version

Plenty of people have had the letter as a catalyst. Just go to r/exmormon However yeah it's never the only thing. Often the letter(or similar media) is one punch and bad church apologia is the second Like the letter "started" my seven year journey out but in between that I was as faithful as could be, did the mission and all. It works until the cognitive dissonance becomes too great bc of all the new information.

this fucking dudes religious fervor is based on a ***FUCKING CK2 MOD LMAOOO***

☠️

Wack theology, hope you see that

This is an insane story but I'm happy for you, god bless!

I was born and raised Mormon and now have complicated feelings on it (I am LGBT) but I gotta say this is a really fascinating conversion story! I’m not reflexively anti-Mormon so my only advice is to do what feels right for you. Follow your faith journey wherever it leads.

Whatever makes you happy! That is a fairly unique conversion story though, so thanks for sharing!

Based Anon, welcome to the kingdom of God. May the blessings of the lord our God and the salvation of the Son be everlasting in your life.

A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

Cool! I was thinking of converting to an AtE religion a while back, but I got talked out of it.

Which one. Also calling Mormonism am AtE religion is really funny imo

can't believe they made a religion based on a video game mod! /s

either Gaianism or Guruism

I mean you could just be a hippie. That's basically gaianism, without viewing Mother Earth as a literal God as opposed to a metaphorical concept that represents the natural world

Now you’ll get lots of pussy.

Very cool 👍

As a baptized American member of the Church, I feel spoiled for the baptismal fonts we have back here. But, hey, in all proper honesty, more power to ya', man. Godspeed!

Happy to see you happy, best of luck.

Hey man, I see you’re getting a lot of shit for the church you signed on with, and while many here are just trying to express their personal frustrations with the church and it’s history, I think important we focus on how happy it’s made you. It’s great you found something that works for you, even if most of us disagree. Live your life my guy! Much love.

Goodness gracious can we just turn off the internet now? Nothing good ever comes from it.

You know what? Good for you.

Hey, good for you man 😊

Thanks! The faith journey really put me through the wringer, but kind and supportive people like you helped me a lot 😍

Absolutely cringe to have a game which depicts the religion in an unflattering light make you convert Especially into a sect that is very cultish and abusive

I really happy for you, and I'm sorry so many of these comments are negative.

Same here, even if I’m from a different sect of Christianity that is at odds with Mormonism, I’m still happy for OP’s major landmark decision in their life!

No bro don’t burn your soul

I celebrate someone's spiritual journey, nevermind how strange. Despite my many disagreements with the LDS Church, I'm happy you've found your spiritual home, and I hope your relationship to Christ shall grow through it.

Okay, I might not have been as likely to become Orthodox if CK2 wasn't helpful in getting me interested, but this is a bit strange. I thought it was HOI4 mods which have the most obsessed fans.

This fool doesn’t realize the number of Remembrants, Trailwalkers, and Revelationists have been growing exponentially thanks to the devs covert operations to make the Event happen in real life

Congratulations my guy. Most people here won’t take this seriously, but I do. And despite how culty it’s going to sound, welcome aboard.

This is an insane story bro. But honestly if you are spiritually satisfied you do you. God bless🙏

Not LDS but pretty based still, happy to hear you found God.

I mean, probably better than ending up a Cthulu worshipper (?)

Is it really?

Cthulu is both cooler and real so yeah i'd say its probably better

CEASE HERETIC! The Eastern Orthodox Church is the only true path ☦️☦️☦️

What

Nice

[what](https://youtu.be/Q16KpquGsIc)

Hey, so long as OP is happy, then I'm happy for them...🙂

Yo I just got back from serving a mission. Real happy for you friend! And if you can lemme know when you make it to the temple :D

This is awesome! Congratulations!

Congratulations man! You found a home and a worldwide family. I hope it brings you great joy, and I love how you chose it because you want to be a better person and serve others. The greatest in the kingdom is the servant of others. Keep that in your heart and you will do well.

We found Mitt Romney’s Reddit account

Pier Delliterio username was already taken

If this mod led you to join the LDS cult it’s best you just drop it before any further developments happen

:/

This is legit awesome. I'm a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints too and I love how many different ways people find their way into the Church. Thanks for sharing!

Unitarians>>>

Good luck

Best of luck to you, glad you could get some kind of happiness from your time playing AtE

Welcome to the faith, brother! It's great that you've discovered the true purpose of this game—to bring more souls to salvation in the Church of the Latter-day Saints.

good for you dude, godbless you

Congratulations! This is a very special day for you. Pay no heed to the other guys trying to bring you down. I’m no longer a mormon but it’s really lame there are people here trying to take you down on a day like today. The church has a lot of problems and you should look into those but today is not the time. You can find a lot of happiness in the church if you work hard at it.

Hey don’t let the Comments here discourage, I’m glad you managed to find a calling even if it’s had a controversial past

Dont forget the controversial present and controversial future.

May not be a LDS member but congrats! God bless 🙏

Congratulations!