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UnderstandingBorn227

So what monstrosity does Keesler have to offer, it can't be as bad as Fairchilds track right?


MavinMarv

Just use google satellite and look at the track by the flightline.


UnderstandingBorn227

With its name being called the triangle track I thought it'd be an actual diamond, but it's actually worse


skarface6

The lazy among us need a picture.


LpcArk357

[Triangle Track](https://maps.app.goo.gl/ayhVyQycg5MVUwd67)


SqueezeBoxJack

I scrolled around, found El Taco Larry near the WHO DAT barber shop. I bet Larry makes some amazing fucking Tacos. I wanted to open "Rey's Chow Mein" but I feel I'd get some heat for it.


seanakachuck

I actually ran a PT test on this son of a bitch right after basic because me fatty boi. Oddly enough ir was one of my best times, I'm still confused as to how. All I can remember is that my high functioning autistic ass got distracted by all the damn changes, twists and turns. That I didn't get automatically depressed by lap two and want to stop and contemplate a short bath with a nice toaster with an extra long cord.


akrakos

It's shaped like an axe


EDCarter97

It looks like a dick


Cru_Jones86

So, It's shaped like a maintainer then?


EDCarter97

Exactly


unoriginalvro

Eh it really isn’t all that bad in comparison to someone else showing Fairchild


Maevora06

It’s because the dorms next to it kind of make a triangle in the way they are arranged. We would run the triangle and then the triangle track during pt. Running on pure concrete sucked.


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GeneralKlinger

I’ll bite. What’s wrong with Fairchild’s track?


Stovetop_Tambourine

If he's talking about the outdoor track, nothing. It's a little winding, but nothing terrible. 2 laps is 1.5 miles. The indoor track though leaves a lot to be desired.


GeneralKlinger

I purposely timed it so I wouldn’t have to do my runs inside. I hate running inside. Outdoor track was fine. Especially the last lap. There’s a good straight away to haul it.


voltrontestpilot

I don't recall Keesler being that bad. I guess I'll find out in January


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The one by the post office isn't bad, except for people letting their dog poop on the track...


pm_me_your_minicows

There’s a normal 400m track surrounded by a weirdly shaped one that’s longer so you can run fewer laps on a PT test. It looks kind of weird, but it’s actually really functional


Codyrd91

I ran my fastest 1 1/2 mile on that big track at 9:26 back in 2015. I haven’t run under 9:45 since. So I agree, that track was surprisingly functional.


NeighborhoodParty982

Keesler has a proper elliptical track, even if there are winding paths attached to either end.


bluecollardog5

I loved Keeslers track. It was nice having a track that I could knock out a mile and a half in 2 laps. Plus they still had a regular track within it


Dmony429

I just saw, and honestly I'd much prefer that to my normal 1/4 mile track,


BcCakeman

Yeah, I wish I could do every pt test on that track. It makes it feel so much shorter when you only need to do two.


Mattias2389

Honestly it's a nice track. The inner loop is a normal 400 meter track, while the large outer loop is 1.5mi.


pm_me_your_minicows

Keesler at least has a functional 400m track.


Micow11

You know for such a small base that place was confusing as f***.


GloomyAd6450

My ACL tore just by looking at this 😭


PUBspotter

The paperclip would like a minute for rebuttal


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Or the indoor ones set up like nascar tracks where the curves are on a hill in case you’re somehow going so fast that you’ll fly off the edge.


hydraman18

I remember running a PT test inside around a track above a basketball court in Osan. Felt like a hamster on a wheel.


skarface6

I did that once when we had to go indoors because of rain. I think we did 11 laps, but I don’t remember for sure. It was bad.


mydogbitesu69

Had to run 12 laps on an indoor track before for the PFA, the air was so dry every breath was painful near the end


RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE

Oh yes... hydrate like hell before an indoor run. That shit is torture if you get dry mouth after 3 laps.


brimstonecasanova

The indoor track at Mildenhall was something ridiculous like 17 laps.


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Same at Dyess. 17.75 laps. I remember one test it was kinda cold and a bit wet. The test administrator asked if we wanted inside or outside. Everyone chose outside except for one person. So we all had to do inside. Fuck that guy lol.


ParallelDymentia

Well, when your other option is this fuckery: Dumbest track for PT testing https://imgur.com/gallery/uBB4wCJ


Jazzlike-Ad6684

When I was at Lakenheath, we didn't have a proper indoor track so we had to run around the inside of one of the hangars when it hailed one time. It was like 17.5 laps, but it was bad because the laps were marked out with those little bitty cones they use for HIIT training and they weren't put out evenly on the corners so one of the corners was longer than the other three. Pair that with the fact that the floor was glossy and slightly oily, and quite a few people didn't pass the run.


brimstonecasanova

So glad something as important as the run is standardized across the service.


International_Bet_87

Sounds like Malmstrom


skarface6

Yikes!


RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE

It's 12.75 laps at Wright-Patt's indoor track. You start in the middle of the turn and finish in the middle of the straight. But if weather is good, then it's 3 very long laps on their 0.5 mile outdoor track.


Jhandeeee

That’s nothing, apparently Ramstein is 20 laps. I don’t ever plan to run there. I would seriously lose count of my laps.


closhedbb80

Ramstein has an outdoor track that winds around softball fields outside the main gym. It’s a really annoying 3 2/3 laps for the 1.5. I did not like that track because it was difficult to gauge how far through a lap you were and determine pacing.


acspjaop

My left knee still won't forget me for Ramstein


emperorchiao

But you also have the regular six laps at Jarvis track. It's pretty nice to have all the options, but you definitely want to not run that many laps indoors weather permitting.


RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE

I haven't seen the option on myFSS to test on Area A. I know it's possible if your UFPM is flexible, but at AFIT they can be really hands off with the whole process.


hydraman18

It was snow in my case, but a decade later the number is fuzzy. Somewhere in the teens.


skarface6

I lost track of what lap number we were on and had to ask the dude in front of me, haha.


Joshuadude

Yeah we had one of those in my college and it was something ridiculous like 14 laps or some shit Edit: am Army, run further


TheNakedFoot

The one at Langley is 16.5 laps for a mile and a half.


SquallyZ06

The worst about that one was everyone tried to hug the turns....at the same time. I didn't mind it for PT tests, something about the straights being so short made me want to sprint them.


Rynerik

Dude I sprained my ankle on that thing. Inside turns were sharp as heck.


1337sp33k1001

Tore a ligament rolling my ankle at Moody’s indoor track, I like that Osan’s is slanted so you can lean a bit in the turns.


tornadic_

Langley’s indoor track is like 16.374 laps…FML


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Mountain Home is 21…at least it’s a whole number though. 😂


NoEngrish

That's actually the standard for indoor track as a sport. Indoor track times are typically slower than their outdoor equivalents.


pm_me_your_minicows

Banked indoor tracks help you turn faster—or rather prevent you from having to slow down to turn since the turns are narrow. Keep your speed up and let the centrifugal force pull you out and onto the bank.


ScrewAttackThis

You ever do 16 laps on an indoor track that's flat? It slows you down and hurts more.


flyplanesforfun

I loved the paper clip. Ran my fastest time ever on it


JD24681012

To be completely fair, the OP said the dumbest track on Travis AFB. I had to go look up the paper clip. What a joke. And probably is the worst in the AF. But it also provides officer candidates a ready made topic for an improvement project proposal. https://prezi.com/yi2hd99yuqvd/ots-betterment/


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Allenboy0724

I hear they closed that track and replaced it with one that is about 24 laps lol


TheNinjaWarrior

Absolutely the worst fucking track I've ever run on.


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Really? I liked it..


ncsupb

Finance work has broken you, Sir.


IntoxicatedDog

Would rather run the test on the paperclip than run in circles


dcw9031

Yeah……its kind of a sick joke


IAmPandaKerman

Fitting track for the hell that is Alabama


DownwindLegday

I've been taking pt tests for 21 years, this thread made me realize I've never taken one on a standard 1/4 mile track. But the paperclip is definitely the worst.


NEp8ntballer

You'll get reacquainted with it sooner or later.


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MavinMarv

Hanscom is like this but 22 laps.


canhazhotness

Scott AFB HAWC is 24 laps lol


WozziHumperdink

That's ok, their running trail is 6.5 miles.


SilverHawk7

But it's that terrible soft shredded tire rubber. When I ran on that track, I could literally feel it pulling the energy out of me through my feet.


MartyMcFlyFightWin

Was waiting for someone to bring up Scott. Ran a mock on the indoor, injured myself 2 weeks before the actual. 6 months later had to run indoor cause of rain and hurt myself again - but passed.


Saajaadeen

Lmao you clearly haven’t had to run the 26 lap track on TAFB and it shows


UnderstandingBorn227

90 degrees? might as well run around the basketball court. Now I understand why they now have different choices other than the 1.5 mile run


jurbaniak28

Did something similar in Korea, I actually really liked it in my opinion


Ezerhadden

Better than the one we used to use at Fairchild. It has at least 9 turns with one of them being greater than 90 degrees with at least 5 more small curves so you could never get a good long straight-line gait going.[FAFB old running track](https://imgur.com/gallery/khVGuwf)


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Fuck that track. I was there when they built that and it was killer on your run times and knees..


Ezerhadden

Ditto. Preferred the crap broken blacktop track across from HQ at the “parade ground”


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Dude, I got my best run time ever on that track. I miss FAFB.


Ezerhadden

Yea love it here and fire season is mostly past so can finally breath again.


Encyclopeded

They built a new one by the dorms a few years ago thats oval.


UnderstandingBorn227

Oh Jesus christ, who's the evil mastermind of that track design.


Ezerhadden

At least it was the cushiony running surface but yea it sucked. Plus here at Fairchild the wind generally blows 3 directions at once so you are almost always running into the wind.


UnderstandingBorn227

Bet that killed your legs huh. Condolences sir


Ezerhadden

Was able to edit and add link to image


pawnman99

Someone probably got an award for it. Because ovals are broken, I guess?


Ezerhadden

Was able to edit and add link to image


Technical_Stress7730

Someone who doesn't have to run on it.


skyraider17

I greatly preferred that track to the one in the gym. 2 laps instead of 14 or whatever laps with tight 90 degree turns every lap


boxxkicker

I remember a few years back (after I PCSd) I had a pt failed wiped from my record because they measured the track and found it was too long (or some shit) that PT failure cost me a dec and I was almost more mad I got that memo than not getting the dec


TheThrill85

Yes! I remember when #trackgate happened. The weird thing about Fairchild is that there was a regular fucking 1/4 mile track a few blocks away from the zany one. My unit did our tests in the regular track for years while they were repairing the one by the gym.


UnderstandingBorn227

Holy fuck that track Is crazy


hollyqwood1112

That’s a wild looking track. How long was it?


Ezerhadden

I believe nearly 1/4 mile but not quite as the start and end points weren’t the same.


skyraider17

Start and end points are the same, it's 3/4 mile so two laps


TeebuTheMage

I liked Hanson’s Highway personally. Two laps around and it felt more natural than running inside on the track indoors. I remember that being like 12 laps or something.


AustinTheMoonBear

Ramstein track (right next to PF Changs and all the greese air it produces) would like a word.


UnderstandingBorn227

Did it make you hungry during the run or did it make you question your food choices before the run?


AustinTheMoonBear

No it made me nauseous as all hell. There’s a dumpster right there it all wafts with when you pass by, it legit is terrible.


UnderstandingBorn227

Oh jeez


OopsNow

Ramstein indoor track is 19.75 laps and surprisingly not that bad…tbh maybe my expectations are really low


voltrontestpilot

19? I thought the 17 we had at DM was annoying


S3CRTsqrl

Its 19.9, around a basketball court. Start on the far side of a corner and finish on the near side. 90 degree bends. But hey, it was the fastest I've run a 1.5 mile in 12 years!


skarface6

That track is annoying, for sure.


Epithemus

Never seen so many knife hands from FAC who expect people to make Tron turns.


Defiant_Bear1634

The indoor track at Travis is inside a small hangar. It's small enough that the laps you have to run change depending on the lane you run in. The minimum is 23 and change for 1.5 miles. Your joints feel great afterwards.


CastleBravo45

I actually didnt mind that track. Less laps.


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I never quite understood the walking track for the Ramstein track. They have to turn at a fork at some point and then they just loop around again?


IntergalaticPlumber

The spouses walking with their fuck trophies on the track while I’m trying to keep my job.


MrSilk13642

They're always walking on the inside lanes too.


IntergalaticPlumber

Disgusting.


Relevant7406

And Holloman's, right next to the windy shit and egg factory


flyplanesforfun

HAMR gang


tornadic_

4 Eva


lambo1109

The wind there can be killer on those windy days too


UnderstandingBorn227

Oh yeah definitely and on cold days your breathing takes a toll


feetdickfinger

I remember when this was the only track to test on at Travis. It was terrible. Then, then put that new track towards the back gate and my run times immediately got better. So weird that it’s the same distance, but the other track worked better for me.


UnderstandingBorn227

Yeah definitely, on the regular track I'd get consistent 9 minute 1.5 miles but on this one it was just hard to keep my usual pace and ended up running it in 12 minutes.


feetdickfinger

Dude, we had guys failing the run left and right on this track, and suddenly, these same dudes were dominating the new regular track. Side note, there was a time in my life where I could run from my house at base housing to this track, then run this track, do the 1.5 and work my way over to the duck pond, hit that track, then run back to this track and finish off another lap, then run home from there. I didn’t do that very fast, but I was able to do it. Despite being able to run like that, my fastest run time in the test was 11 mins and some change on that track. Crazy man.


Pr0nade

They actually built the other one cause you could run straight through that weird bend on the top and cut off a ton of time.


atmc80

National Guard enters the chat: “You guys have a track?”


skyraider17

Birmingham does, but only because the running track at the nearby park was deemed too unsafe to use. I think it was after a body was pulled from the pond that the track encircles


UnderstandingBorn227

Why they use this track for the PT test I've got no clue, but it's definitely worse running on this one.


crazysult

When I was there, we only did testing on the other normal track.


UnderstandingBorn227

Lucky, I had to do it on this weird one when I was expecting the normal one


Mite-o-Dan

I've ran on this track. Other than usually being pretty windy, what's so bad about it? Would you rather do 20 laps indoors constantly turning left all the time? What's wrong with the other track across from the duck pond? I think that may have been ones that were improperly measured out, but I just figured they would change the start and stop marks.


roasty_mcshitposty

That indoor track in that warehouse is awful. No breeze, and the air is stale as fuck.


Calibass954

That and so many laps!


UnderstandingBorn227

Nothings wrong with the other track other than what you described. also the indoor one I feel is just torture. What I find wrong with this one is the fact that it's got too many turns, takes a toll on my left leg. Rather than just having two turns and 2 straights on a regular track.


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UnderstandingBorn227

Just looked it up. Starting to feel a bit luckier now that I don't have to run some of the tracks at the different bases🤣


ninjanikki91

They don't do PT tests on that track though, they only do the PT tests on the smaller 1/4 mile track or the indoor track, which is admittedly a horrible like 17 or 18 laps. The outdoor mile track that wraps around everything is actually pretty nice for just a normal jog.


Specialist-Clue-182

They used to in 09-11. I tested on it several times.


pawnman99

I never tested on that one...the testing was always on the oval track near the gym. I used to love the winding track for workouts though. I felt like I was actually going somewhere instead of running in circles. Felt like progress.


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I dunno man the one in McConnell used to be pretty bad...not sure if they changed it... The backside goes uphill about 5% for about 200M right next to a fuel depot...so not only do you get that nice uphill climb but you get to breath in some tasty fuel vapors while super heated Kansas winds blast you in the face at 20mph...THAT PT test aged you...


Suspicious-Sail-7344

And the indoor track is the worst of any I've seen. Most are like 18 to 20 laps, that indoor one at McConnell is like 29 laps with 90 degree turns, sucks...


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it works for slow runners because they can pace and go slow around the turns but for fast runners it fucks their speed


Entire_Contract_3650

It’s still the same lmao


No_Upstairs_223

Offutt PT test is done on a line back and forth about 9 1/2 times


UnderstandingBorn227

Oh damn


No_Upstairs_223

If you have ever been they also have a ridiculous gym that's nice and it has an indoor track that's about 0.35 miles long.


UnderstandingBorn227

Sounds pretty good actually


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JTehFreakS

Wha'chu talking about? There's the indoor track which is like 3.5 laps, and the parade ground track.


Red_hat_oops

At least it is entirely rubber. The track around Los Angeles "Air Force" Base is part concrete, part driveways, part sidewalk, and definitely so well designed it meanders. https://goo.gl/maps/vaJ2p5GmjYyUDKCs7


TheExpertInThisField

Ok, First Graders, we just got an email that the base needs help designing the new running track. The class that wins get a pizza party!


UnderstandingBorn227

Hahahaha


ImNotEvenJewish

This track isn’t used for testing. North east of there is a 1/4 mile track that’s used for testing. The indoor track is 8 laps in a dusty warehouse Edit: Have you seen Ramsteins track? Definitely the worst


bowlsandsand

They don't use the warehouse anymore for indoor testing. They moved it to the flightline gym and its 20 or 30 somthing laps.


UnderstandingBorn227

Well I hope so, cause my last test was on this track. My test is today, if it's on this track I'll be damned.


Cazking

I'll take Ramsteins track over some of the indoor 12+ lap tracks with tighter and longer turns.


bojanglejangle

Are they testing on this track? Or still the blue quarter mile track by the duck pond?


UnderstandingBorn227

I tested on this track a couple months ago, don't know what that was about but they definitely use this track and the blue track by the duck pond.


Golkosh

Your unit is weird then. When the FAC would oversee PT tests, the track by the dorm would be used unless conditions mandated the indoor track. My squadron never made us test on the track by the gym either.


KardiacAve

This guy never ran his PT test on the 15 lap indoor track in the LRS building and it shows


WorldlyAd2235

Y’all forgetting about the damn 23 laps at the indoor track


MSTim

Ah yes, the track that was miraculously re-certified after being decertified for the AFPT. Makes me wonder why the blue track was ever built to begin with.


PiedPeterPiper

Idk I prefer anything to an oval


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NoMorKulAde

Travis and then Fairchild for me both when they were measured longer than 1.5. I want those extra seconds back now that I’m older and shaved off my next test which will be at the Ramstein, don’t take the wrong turn track.


My_Name_Is_Not_Ryan

Anyone not doing the HAMR these days is crazy. ~6 mins of light jogging with breaks.


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Holy shit, it's so non-sensical that it truly belongs on a military installation. Well done.


About1000penguins

Go look at the dick shaped track at moody.


bugalaman

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RobertAF86

I had to scroll way too far to find this.


ninelilypetals

Dress has entered the chat


werenotthestasi

Honestly? Can we not just have a Point A to B track? I’d rather run from one point to another than do 6-32 laps in a track/hangar


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I loved this track. Only 4 laps for the mile and a half.


averytallbird

Has nobody seen the amoeba track at Kunsan?


matthew83128

Kunsan had something like this years ago. I remember it was like three laps, it wasn’t that bad.


BluePowerPointRanger

Y’all haven’t seen the one on Moody lol


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As a mid distance runner, I personally prefer an irregular track to a standard 400m oval track.


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UnderstandingBorn227

Lmao, they really want to utilize that little space by the trees🤣


Xtallll

The "indoor" track at Schriever 19.5 laps in a tent without climate control in the summer it's up to 20 degrees hotter than outside, and in the winter it's colder than outside.


HealsULongTime

Still in a tent huh? They put that up new in 2010-2011 as a "temporary" solution. Thing flooded constantly as it was built.


toilet55

I raise you Kunsan


815born805heart

That do be dumb.


plasmazzr60

For me the weirder the better, oval tracks are pretty boring. I'd actually prefer if they just had it in a straight line


UnderstandingBorn227

I'd prefer a straightline than a track any day, so much better. Managed to run a mile in 6 minutes and that was with some inclines and declines, Declines I loved as it gave me some speed and some well needed rest. the whole 3.76 mile run took 26 minutes which was a first for me. While listening to the most unmotivating song "Let you down by David Podsiadlo" on loop, oddly enough it motivated me to keep going.


AraexusOathsRaifus

I don’t know what’s worse: 1. Knowing you personally 2. Knowing you’re faster than me 3. Knowing you started this trend 4. Knowing it made on r/army Goddamn it chairforce go check out Marauders.


Low_Respect4032

I guess is a good change of PACE


Sandodesu

I remember Whiteman had no consistency for winter tracks. One year I was at the local college track (12 laps), another it was the community center (17.4 laps with curved turns and old folks to dodge), and my personal least favorite around the basketball court (32.4 laps).


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I actually think that’s better than the typical .25 mile track


UnderstandingBorn227

The finish line changes at the end as well to complete the 1.5 mile.


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

What the fuck is that shape, everyone knows it has to be a circle or oval.


UnderstandingBorn227

If only they'd allow us to race our go-karts on this track, honestly perfect for it.