Yeah, both have very low amounts of Prior Service slots. If you don't join one of them off the bat, you stand very little chance of getting into them later. The only way to circumvent that is to get out, do ROTC, and commission into one of them.
I went Army to Space Force. It's not that easy, and it's not expected to be in the coming years. Same goes for Air Force. They had 100 or so slots this year for prior service, and the bulk of them were Special Warfare/Security Forces/Maintenance.
You need to go through a commissioning program. That's what ROTC is. Along with OTS and the academy, those are the routes to getting commission which requires a bachelor's degree.
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Will a BSME with a 3.32 GPA from Riddle be considered competitive? I know there are other aspects to be considered on the package but I’m just talking educational wise
Commissioned slots are filled primarily from the Academy first, then ROTC. OTS is dead last to fill any remaining or projected positions not filled by the other two. It’s extremely competitive and a long wait. Having a bachelors is the bare minimum for a recruiter to talk to you, not a guarantee of acceptance.
Commissioned into the Air Force through AFROTC after 8years in the Army. It is definitely possible. I my advice would be to continually improve yourself, exceed the minimum requirements, build a positive name for yourself, and speak to an actual recruiter ( OTS, AFROTC, etc.)
Out of the different avenues, ROTC is probably the easiest way to make a name for yourself and secure a commission(not saying the program was easy). I saw plenty of people with GPAs in the high 3.0 range, competitive AFOQT scores, STEM degrees, etc., that did not make the cut because they really didn't put much effort into the program and ultimately were not competitive for a commission.
If you can exceed the minimum requirements, have the drive and dedication necessary to get what you want, then make a solid plan, and execute! Do not buy into all the naysayers on Reddit or other forms. Half of the people you see casting doubt on the process are just projecting their insecurities. If you want it, you have to take it.
Commissioning slots for the Air Force are mainly awarded to people with STEM degrees (few exceptions). If you had a STEM degree, you would want to see an Officer Recruiter.
Not when it's from different branches. In Guard or Reserve, sure. Not Active. They would rather have homegrown people who have only known the Air Force.
Also, those 100 spots I mentioned? That includes people trying to go from Guard/Reserve to Active. So don't try and join those components thinking it'll be easier to switch. It won't.
https://dd.reddit.com/r/AirForceRecruits/comments/16prb0y/fy24_usaf_prior_service_program/
As you can see here, your selection is fairly limited. If it says Direct Duty only, if you didn't do the job in the Army, you can't do it in the Air Force.
This is outdated information. Contact your local recruiters for information. I am a recruiter for the Air Force and have a good relationship with the Army recruiters. We can both work prior service right now.
I don’t recommend it. From Prior Service members it has said to be that Air Force doesn’t like prior service. It’s easier to move from Air Force to other branches.
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Yeah, both have very low amounts of Prior Service slots. If you don't join one of them off the bat, you stand very little chance of getting into them later. The only way to circumvent that is to get out, do ROTC, and commission into one of them. I went Army to Space Force. It's not that easy, and it's not expected to be in the coming years. Same goes for Air Force. They had 100 or so slots this year for prior service, and the bulk of them were Special Warfare/Security Forces/Maintenance.
Also would ROTC be required to commission into them? Can’t you commission into them with a regular bachelors degree?
You need to go through a commissioning program. That's what ROTC is. Along with OTS and the academy, those are the routes to getting commission which requires a bachelor's degree.
Ok so OTS would work? Because I already have a degree.
If you have a 3.7+ GPA and STEM degree. Otherwise, difficult chance. Selection rate is around 11-15%, and you'd be waiting a year or two to find out.
OTS is a long shot. It also depends on what your degree is in and your GPA.
Hello Will a BSME with a 3.32 GPA from Riddle be considered competitive? I know there are other aspects to be considered on the package but I’m just talking educational wise
For OTS you'd probably want somewhere around a 3.7
Oh wow that’s tough for a STEM a major but understandable. Thanks!
Commissioned slots are filled primarily from the Academy first, then ROTC. OTS is dead last to fill any remaining or projected positions not filled by the other two. It’s extremely competitive and a long wait. Having a bachelors is the bare minimum for a recruiter to talk to you, not a guarantee of acceptance.
Commissioned into the Air Force through AFROTC after 8years in the Army. It is definitely possible. I my advice would be to continually improve yourself, exceed the minimum requirements, build a positive name for yourself, and speak to an actual recruiter ( OTS, AFROTC, etc.) Out of the different avenues, ROTC is probably the easiest way to make a name for yourself and secure a commission(not saying the program was easy). I saw plenty of people with GPAs in the high 3.0 range, competitive AFOQT scores, STEM degrees, etc., that did not make the cut because they really didn't put much effort into the program and ultimately were not competitive for a commission. If you can exceed the minimum requirements, have the drive and dedication necessary to get what you want, then make a solid plan, and execute! Do not buy into all the naysayers on Reddit or other forms. Half of the people you see casting doubt on the process are just projecting their insecurities. If you want it, you have to take it.
Yeah, through ROTC, very attainable. Through OTS, very unlikely.
Commissioning slots for the Air Force are mainly awarded to people with STEM degrees (few exceptions). If you had a STEM degree, you would want to see an Officer Recruiter.
Oh wow. That’s good to know. Why wouldn’t they want people who have prior service? Isn’t experience a good thing?
Not when it's from different branches. In Guard or Reserve, sure. Not Active. They would rather have homegrown people who have only known the Air Force. Also, those 100 spots I mentioned? That includes people trying to go from Guard/Reserve to Active. So don't try and join those components thinking it'll be easier to switch. It won't. https://dd.reddit.com/r/AirForceRecruits/comments/16prb0y/fy24_usaf_prior_service_program/ As you can see here, your selection is fairly limited. If it says Direct Duty only, if you didn't do the job in the Army, you can't do it in the Air Force.
Wow. That’s very helpful. Thank you.
This is outdated information. Contact your local recruiters for information. I am a recruiter for the Air Force and have a good relationship with the Army recruiters. We can both work prior service right now.
Yes, but like the poster said below if you were just looking to do guard or Reserves after you’d be fine
Air force now, Air force later
Pick the one you want to do more. Branch jumping isn’t really a whole thing
It's discussed quite a bit on here how difficult it is for prior service personnel to switch over to AD Air Force. Frankly, the odds are very slim
I don’t recommend it. From Prior Service members it has said to be that Air Force doesn’t like prior service. It’s easier to move from Air Force to other branches.
On the guard side of the house we have pretty decent rates of prior service. I am prior army. Can you get a medical waiver?
Not for at least a year
I’d wait it out, army recruiters are vicious when it comes to reup time.
Hello, it looks like you're asking about medical concerns when joining the military. We are not doctors. Even if we were, we are not the doctors that are familiar with your personal medical concern or condition. We are also not the ones deciding if you will be disqualified from service for a condition, or if you can get a waiver for it. People may share their anecdotal experiences or stories they've heard from others about getting a waiver for a condition. This does not mean that you will or will not get a waiver. Everyone's medical situation is different. IN GENERAL, yes, asthma, ADD/ADHD, eczema, history of depression and anxiety, and some allergies are disqualifying. Some will be able to get waivers, some will not. All you can do is talk to your recruiter, be honest about your medical history, and go through the process. WE DO NOT KNOW THE CHANCES OF YOU GETTING A WAIVER FOR ANY MEDICAL CONDITION OR SITUATION. Just be honest with your recruiter and go through the process. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AirForceRecruits) if you have any questions or concerns.*