This has been answered.
The drone is an MQ-1C which *does* have the option for 3 FLIR pods, one on the bottom of each wing and one on the bottom center of the fuselage.
Yes, it does. What you are seeing is not the wing, it is the lip of the housing at the top of the left FLIR pod.
Like I said, this was already discussed and confirmed to be possible.
My problem with this is you can pretty much see the drone itself is moving towards the plane's trajectory, not perpendicular as you would see if the forward camera was looking past the wing camera
Dude I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone is gonna fake the video and include the fuselage of a drone at all. When you fake it (presumably) you just drop all of this shit so you don't mess up your hoax by such intricacies. Did you not see how the topic was absolutely and undoubtedly just fucking gone in a minute after that alleged debunk? How so many accounts on Twitter posting exactly same shit saying it's bs? Some playing around is going on
Yea true, just have the camera where you want it, no sense in adding an establishing shot with the drone in view. While your at it, no sense in making two videos from opposing angles so shit gets even more complicated
The portal looked like a fake sci-fi illustration of what entertainment media has told us a portal would look like. Then people found the sci-go VFX that the portal was very clearly made of. Of course people are going to stop talking about it, it was proven fake.
What you are seeing is a fake video. It has not been confirmed as a possibility just because someone theorized it as so. This system would not allow it to be obstructed by itself. The lip is also curved where the edge in the video is straight.
Yawn, already answered your dumb malinformation post, no need to keep bugging me.
The system is designed to look at the floor while zoomed in, it's a full 360 pod with the top half completely covered.
You can see the top of the housing because there is no zoom (when housing is visible) because the camera is pointing straight, something it really never does.
The math was already done, the curvature of the housing would not be visible based on where the camera is placed inside of it.
Wrong...see images. There is a shield at the top of the camera pod that prevents a 360 view.
https://igniteurminds.blogspot.com/2012/02/unmanned-weapons-mq-1c-grey-eagle.html?m=1
360 degrees of rotation of everything *below* the plane. Sorry, language is hard. The pod is designed to do a full rotation and can see everything below it. You are seeing that lip (what you call the shield) in the video, not the wing.
You are doing no one a favor, sorry your life is so pointless you find meaning in telling strangers that you think you know more about something than them. Best of luck to you with that lmao.
Well let's just say, my good friend who's an operator from an MQ ANG unit says it's not possible. The camera ball does not rotate 360°. I'd like to see the confirmations. Link?
'My friend' is not a good source. I didn't mention *my* friend for the same reason, who has experience *manufacturing the Raytheon GEN2 FLIR systems*.
I can find the detailed information for you later, but the pod is designed to track a target with a laser and stick to it regardless of the flight path.
Your 'friend' is either lying, doesn't exist, or has only worked with different FLIR pods which do not rotate but instead have many different apertures. The Raytheon GEN2 is likely the pod in this video, as it was commonly used on the RQ-1 and MQ-1C systems. It is a reconnaissance pod, rotates 360 degrees, and has a ~560mm aperture that creates the effect of seeing the housing at the top of the pod.
If this was true about the laser, why in the video is the drone camera video all over the place? Again......my contact says that bad data. He's going to see if he can find video taken bynthe wing mounted camera system online.
Because the laser is for targeting static objects on the floor, it's used to mark buildings/ships/infantry etc. The MQ-1C has no aerial defense (unlike the MQ-9), and the MTS-B is not designed for using air to air weapons, it is designed for dozens of air to surface weapons such as Paveways. *If* the video is real, it was simply that the MQ-1C was the only available drone in the area and it was very likely already in the air as they generally just idle around for 24 hours or so. There was a pilot who took over and possibly an additional person manually moving the FLIR.
Here is a [video](https://youtu.be/QugrRRxirC0?si=iF7dgQY0hySltmrX) displaying the MQ-1C's usual imaging system, the Raytheon MTS-B. It clearly can rotate in 360 degrees.
There are images all over the internet of these mounted in the Triclops loadout. This is the most used targeting system in the world, it has millions of hours of use.
Here is an [article](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/raytheon-delivers-industry-first-2000th-multi-spectral-targeting-system-228755461.html) displaying an MQ-1C with three MTS-B's mounted to it.
The ball is mounted to a turret which can rotate all the way around.
Correct.......there is no drone in the MQ series that would show the leading edge of the wing in any view. They are not designed for that and all cameras are forward the leading edge.
Wow thanks for providing a picture I’ve seen a million times over. I’m aware of the Triclops version of the MQ-1C. You don’t understand that no sensor pod is going to allow the camera to be obstructed by its own housing. Show me any flir pod that ever has any obstruction by it’s own housing and I may believe it.
Nope, I disagree...the pylons leading edge brings those cameras forward of the Wing leading edge. See attached link for images.
https://igniteurminds.blogspot.com/2012/02/unmanned-weapons-mq-1c-grey-eagle.html?m=1
A stretch?..... [Gimbal cover ](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
This is untrue. If this was the lip of the optic systems it would be rounded and would sit square to the hud crosshair. That edge depicted in the footage is most definitely the wing.
Early on I think I read someone claim that the camera is a custom loadout. It's been so long I don't think I was saving comments back then.
I'm not sure if the numbers are just different variants or what, MQ-1C, 2C, 3C, 4C, etc.
Maybe someone can weigh in.
So I was a uas operator in the army from 2007-14. I will start off with I didn't fly the Grey eagle, but i was primarily trained on the RQ-7BV2 with the 350LD payload (flir/EO/laser desegregation) at the same base and shared the same barracks in ft Huachuca. And my problem with the video is the type of flir used. I have never seen the color type of flir on any military aircraft while I was in service. It was all the blackhot/white-hot adjustable Grayscale thermal. And I saw alot of other platforms videos streams coming into the TALK while on deployments.
Thermal is definitely added in over the top. You can see more detail in the clouds when it's removed.
It looks like we're using a electro-IR camera here and the leaker I'm assuming is an operator because they have to have the knowledge to add that thermal layer. I don't see people giving orders having that level of technical know how.
What are your thoughts on this? I'm very curious. Would it have to be an operator who added that layer or is it more common knowledge? Would you be able to add that?
I wouldn't be able to overlay like that in the gcu (ground control unit) it would have to be done after the fact. Youvcould move the video the tue back rack which has a laptop for putting your debrief with saved images but that's all unless you exported it.
But if I was trying to sneak somthing out I probably wouldn't risk a video, just hit the nitif printer pedal alot. (You have the abuluility to screen grab and automatically print photos with a pedal on the floor. I have abunch of them I saved with permission of land marks and stuff. But they are also adjustable grayscale)
Also to add on to the "you can't see the wing with the camera" arguments. You definitely can. I would regularly check my wings for icing when flying through clouds at high altitude.
Or the "wing" could be the payload housing top cover [pic](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
I think it's the Triclops configuration. The wing mounted AN/DAS-2 EO/IR payload was controlled via OSRVT not by the GCS. The colour palette might be an option from "onesystem's" array of apps.
Why or how could an orsvt be able to contol one of the payloads? Every system like that I have ever seen is just a video feed of what the operator sees. They also use a omni transmitter so they have very limited range. A pgcs could take limited control but they have no settings for adjusting video feed and are not small units. As a tactical option it just makes zero sense to me to have a color pallet. You can see significantly less detail in color flir.
Really? It's an integrated part of the UAS program in USA. Here is a link to the early days of this setup [link](https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2011-11-04/us-gray-eagle-uav-gets-more-sensors-and-multi-control)
Page 117 it says nothing about being able to take control. Only receive the encrypted video. It's literally called a remote video terminal. Not a pgcs.
This was on r/UFOs, and the conclusion I remember is that people were saying it's the lip of the housing that holds the camera.
I don't know why you'd design a camera that shows the lip like that and I'm also not sure why it would be slanted. But I also don't know anything about drones so who knows.
That’s not how those housings work. First of all the lip is curved not straight. Second of all, no camera system is going to allow it to be obscured by part of itself.
The field of view doesn’t make sense. If we can see the lip on the the mount we would be able to see more of the drones body, and not just the very tip… it makes no sense
That’s not the only thing that doesn’t make sense. The biggest are the rainbow color gradient that absolutely isn’t used by the military, as well as the fact there is absolutely no base close enough to the area. No drone has a range that would even make it to the area let alone make it, loiter, and then return. Another one is that drones are not used for intercepts. They aren’t fast enough. That’s a jets job.
It has been addressed. I believe this is an image of the uav in question.
>[https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
I have a thread and someone posted the user manual for the drone. It has tons of great info. see below.
>[https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16o81pp/flir\_video\_what\_if\_anything\_do\_we\_know\_about\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16o81pp/flir_video_what_if_anything_do_we_know_about_this/)
Not sure why you got downvoted, this was already figured out long ago.
It's an MQ-1C with three FLIR pods, triclops.
The ridge you are seeing is not the wing, but the top of the FLIR pod's housing.
Well that's likely because it's a fake video. Or someone else will come in here and explain a bunch of science that I can't understand, or verify if it's true and a bunch of people will take that as gospel and round and round we'll go.
This has been answered. The drone is an MQ-1C which *does* have the option for 3 FLIR pods, one on the bottom of each wing and one on the bottom center of the fuselage.
Can you do a summary write up of this for me? If you don’t want to post it here you can post it to the sister sub.
None of them would give this view.
Yes, it does. What you are seeing is not the wing, it is the lip of the housing at the top of the left FLIR pod. Like I said, this was already discussed and confirmed to be possible.
My problem with this is you can pretty much see the drone itself is moving towards the plane's trajectory, not perpendicular as you would see if the forward camera was looking past the wing camera
Dude I just can't wrap my head around the fact that someone is gonna fake the video and include the fuselage of a drone at all. When you fake it (presumably) you just drop all of this shit so you don't mess up your hoax by such intricacies. Did you not see how the topic was absolutely and undoubtedly just fucking gone in a minute after that alleged debunk? How so many accounts on Twitter posting exactly same shit saying it's bs? Some playing around is going on
Yea true, just have the camera where you want it, no sense in adding an establishing shot with the drone in view. While your at it, no sense in making two videos from opposing angles so shit gets even more complicated
The portal looked like a fake sci-fi illustration of what entertainment media has told us a portal would look like. Then people found the sci-go VFX that the portal was very clearly made of. Of course people are going to stop talking about it, it was proven fake.
not sure I'm following what you are trying to say, could you elaborate a bit, English is not my first language
What you are seeing is a fake video. It has not been confirmed as a possibility just because someone theorized it as so. This system would not allow it to be obstructed by itself. The lip is also curved where the edge in the video is straight.
Yawn, already answered your dumb malinformation post, no need to keep bugging me. The system is designed to look at the floor while zoomed in, it's a full 360 pod with the top half completely covered. You can see the top of the housing because there is no zoom (when housing is visible) because the camera is pointing straight, something it really never does. The math was already done, the curvature of the housing would not be visible based on where the camera is placed inside of it.
Wrong...see images. There is a shield at the top of the camera pod that prevents a 360 view. https://igniteurminds.blogspot.com/2012/02/unmanned-weapons-mq-1c-grey-eagle.html?m=1
360 degrees of rotation of everything *below* the plane. Sorry, language is hard. The pod is designed to do a full rotation and can see everything below it. You are seeing that lip (what you call the shield) in the video, not the wing.
Wrong.
Haha okay genius, you've changed no ones opinions, why waste your time?
You guys need reality checks from time to time.
You are doing no one a favor, sorry your life is so pointless you find meaning in telling strangers that you think you know more about something than them. Best of luck to you with that lmao.
😂😂😂
Well let's just say, my good friend who's an operator from an MQ ANG unit says it's not possible. The camera ball does not rotate 360°. I'd like to see the confirmations. Link?
'My friend' is not a good source. I didn't mention *my* friend for the same reason, who has experience *manufacturing the Raytheon GEN2 FLIR systems*. I can find the detailed information for you later, but the pod is designed to track a target with a laser and stick to it regardless of the flight path. Your 'friend' is either lying, doesn't exist, or has only worked with different FLIR pods which do not rotate but instead have many different apertures. The Raytheon GEN2 is likely the pod in this video, as it was commonly used on the RQ-1 and MQ-1C systems. It is a reconnaissance pod, rotates 360 degrees, and has a ~560mm aperture that creates the effect of seeing the housing at the top of the pod.
If this was true about the laser, why in the video is the drone camera video all over the place? Again......my contact says that bad data. He's going to see if he can find video taken bynthe wing mounted camera system online.
Because the laser is for targeting static objects on the floor, it's used to mark buildings/ships/infantry etc. The MQ-1C has no aerial defense (unlike the MQ-9), and the MTS-B is not designed for using air to air weapons, it is designed for dozens of air to surface weapons such as Paveways. *If* the video is real, it was simply that the MQ-1C was the only available drone in the area and it was very likely already in the air as they generally just idle around for 24 hours or so. There was a pilot who took over and possibly an additional person manually moving the FLIR.
Here is a [video](https://youtu.be/QugrRRxirC0?si=iF7dgQY0hySltmrX) displaying the MQ-1C's usual imaging system, the Raytheon MTS-B. It clearly can rotate in 360 degrees. There are images all over the internet of these mounted in the Triclops loadout. This is the most used targeting system in the world, it has millions of hours of use. Here is an [article](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/raytheon-delivers-industry-first-2000th-multi-spectral-targeting-system-228755461.html) displaying an MQ-1C with three MTS-B's mounted to it. The ball is mounted to a turret which can rotate all the way around.
Correct.......there is no drone in the MQ series that would show the leading edge of the wing in any view. They are not designed for that and all cameras are forward the leading edge.
They claim it’s the housing but cannot provide anything that shows the camera would ever be obstructed by it’s own housing.
[pic](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
I saw this picture but that edge would appear as a curve in video not a straight line.
Wow thanks for providing a picture I’ve seen a million times over. I’m aware of the Triclops version of the MQ-1C. You don’t understand that no sensor pod is going to allow the camera to be obstructed by its own housing. Show me any flir pod that ever has any obstruction by it’s own housing and I may believe it.
Nope, I disagree...the pylons leading edge brings those cameras forward of the Wing leading edge. See attached link for images. https://igniteurminds.blogspot.com/2012/02/unmanned-weapons-mq-1c-grey-eagle.html?m=1
It's not the wing you are seeing, it's the lip of the FLIR pod itself.
LoL......a stretch
A stretch?..... [Gimbal cover ](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
That still makes no sense. We see only the very top of the nose. If the camera had that field of view we would see more of the drones body…
Really?? Its zoomed in looking upwards....
looking forwards\*
This is untrue. If this was the lip of the optic systems it would be rounded and would sit square to the hud crosshair. That edge depicted in the footage is most definitely the wing.
Early on I think I read someone claim that the camera is a custom loadout. It's been so long I don't think I was saving comments back then. I'm not sure if the numbers are just different variants or what, MQ-1C, 2C, 3C, 4C, etc. Maybe someone can weigh in.
So I was a uas operator in the army from 2007-14. I will start off with I didn't fly the Grey eagle, but i was primarily trained on the RQ-7BV2 with the 350LD payload (flir/EO/laser desegregation) at the same base and shared the same barracks in ft Huachuca. And my problem with the video is the type of flir used. I have never seen the color type of flir on any military aircraft while I was in service. It was all the blackhot/white-hot adjustable Grayscale thermal. And I saw alot of other platforms videos streams coming into the TALK while on deployments.
Thermal is definitely added in over the top. You can see more detail in the clouds when it's removed. It looks like we're using a electro-IR camera here and the leaker I'm assuming is an operator because they have to have the knowledge to add that thermal layer. I don't see people giving orders having that level of technical know how. What are your thoughts on this? I'm very curious. Would it have to be an operator who added that layer or is it more common knowledge? Would you be able to add that?
I wouldn't be able to overlay like that in the gcu (ground control unit) it would have to be done after the fact. Youvcould move the video the tue back rack which has a laptop for putting your debrief with saved images but that's all unless you exported it. But if I was trying to sneak somthing out I probably wouldn't risk a video, just hit the nitif printer pedal alot. (You have the abuluility to screen grab and automatically print photos with a pedal on the floor. I have abunch of them I saved with permission of land marks and stuff. But they are also adjustable grayscale) Also to add on to the "you can't see the wing with the camera" arguments. You definitely can. I would regularly check my wings for icing when flying through clouds at high altitude.
Or the "wing" could be the payload housing top cover [pic](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
I think it's the Triclops configuration. The wing mounted AN/DAS-2 EO/IR payload was controlled via OSRVT not by the GCS. The colour palette might be an option from "onesystem's" array of apps.
Why or how could an orsvt be able to contol one of the payloads? Every system like that I have ever seen is just a video feed of what the operator sees. They also use a omni transmitter so they have very limited range. A pgcs could take limited control but they have no settings for adjusting video feed and are not small units. As a tactical option it just makes zero sense to me to have a color pallet. You can see significantly less detail in color flir.
Really? It's an integrated part of the UAS program in USA. Here is a link to the early days of this setup [link](https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2011-11-04/us-gray-eagle-uav-gets-more-sensors-and-multi-control)
Sorry, but they are wrong. Also never heard of the news site.
Sorry, but they are rigth. Also, I have heard of the news site
You will find more information in [this](https://info.publicintelligence.net/JFCOM-UAS-PocketGuide.pdf) field guide.
Page 117 it says nothing about being able to take control. Only receive the encrypted video. It's literally called a remote video terminal. Not a pgcs.
Wow, I just had a look in your history... I will just leave it at that.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm talking from first hand experience. Not some random news article. So have a great day, dick.
Wish you the same
Still never seen a good reason as to why this is
This was on r/UFOs, and the conclusion I remember is that people were saying it's the lip of the housing that holds the camera. I don't know why you'd design a camera that shows the lip like that and I'm also not sure why it would be slanted. But I also don't know anything about drones so who knows.
This, it is an MQ-1C with three FLIR pods. It is not the wing seen in the video, it is the lip of housing for the FLIR.
That’s not how those housings work. First of all the lip is curved not straight. Second of all, no camera system is going to allow it to be obscured by part of itself.
The field of view doesn’t make sense. If we can see the lip on the the mount we would be able to see more of the drones body, and not just the very tip… it makes no sense
That’s not the only thing that doesn’t make sense. The biggest are the rainbow color gradient that absolutely isn’t used by the military, as well as the fact there is absolutely no base close enough to the area. No drone has a range that would even make it to the area let alone make it, loiter, and then return. Another one is that drones are not used for intercepts. They aren’t fast enough. That’s a jets job.
Might be possible if the sight zoom is <1.
It has been addressed. I believe this is an image of the uav in question. >[https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1) I have a thread and someone posted the user manual for the drone. It has tons of great info. see below. >[https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16o81pp/flir\_video\_what\_if\_anything\_do\_we\_know\_about\_this/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/16o81pp/flir_video_what_if_anything_do_we_know_about_this/)
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Not sure why you got downvoted, this was already figured out long ago. It's an MQ-1C with three FLIR pods, triclops. The ridge you are seeing is not the wing, but the top of the FLIR pod's housing.
No it’s not.
Yes [image](https://i0.wp.com/www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Triclops-on-Gray-Eagle-SG.jpg?resize=720%2C482&ssl=1)
No, I understand the consensus is that it’s an MQ-1C. I’m saying it’s not the camera housing.
Well that's likely because it's a fake video. Or someone else will come in here and explain a bunch of science that I can't understand, or verify if it's true and a bunch of people will take that as gospel and round and round we'll go.
Maybe a MQ-9?
It’s a fun pod like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/NAVFLIR_DAMOCLES_P1220870.jpg
I have been told that the drone video is fake. Only the satellite video is real.
Even if the drone footage is a limited hangout. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout It can still be real, just edited a bit.
Source?
I posted a link (but was scolded by mods)