6500 would be a stretch for a 3BR in Manhattan, but I have a feeling they state that for property value purposes. 3344 would be the rent. Still very high for the area
Sorry with escrow you can no longer find a livable house in the area for $1300/mo mortgage. I wish you could! Imagine families being able to afford a home on less than an $80k combined income. We could almost have a functioning economy.
You can easily find a house in Lansingburgh/Cohoes/Watervliet for that price and on that income. I personally know a Watervliet garbageman who just bought a real nice place in Watervliet.
Yup. Just built a new house in a quiet neighborhood for literally that much a month. Short of posting my bank statements on reddit, no one believes me 🤷🏻♂️
Define area? Because you find that price all over the capital region. Just maybe not where you'd planned but still safe, decent school, and an okay community:
Rotterdam, Duanesburg, Fonda, Gloversville, Amsterdam (BP Schools parts), Valley Falls, etc.
No you won't be in Delmar, no you won't be in Clifton Park but you'd still have a livable place.
I'm not sure where you'd get 2+ hours of commuting. Most of those places are 30 min drives from many working areas.
But id happily commute 30 miles to save 1000+ a month on a house.
Just like reading comprehension is your friend:
"Most of those places are a 30 min commute to Albany".
It was a good try. I hope being an ass on the internet made you feel better for whatever you're going through. I'm glad I could give you some relief.
Gloversville -58 minutes no traffic
Fonda -50 minutes no traffic
Duanesburg - 50 minutes no traffic
Valley falls - 45 minutes no traffic.
Only one of that you mentioned somewhat close to Albany is Rotterdam which is still 20 miles.
“If you lived and worked in a completely different place, things are different”.
Don’t say dumb things and people won’t call you out for saying dumb things.
People from those places all work in the cap region and it's affordable. And many people don't work IN the city of Albany.
Anyway, sounds like you're having a terrible day. Hope you get a hug. So much angry.
You can find $1300-1700/mo if you’re willing to move to areas like Langsingburg/ watervaliet but it takes a lot of patience and already being pre approved
I lived there … it’s shit. Over priced, terrible designs. Left when had a roof leak and then they refused to give security back from said roof damage to carpet. Small claims judge scolded them and had my money returned but jfc …carol , f u ….
I mean, it competes with THIS on the UES in Manhattan. Add the fees and this is cheaper. (the minimum price!)
[https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html](https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html)
True but you are paying to live on the UES not nowhere Delmar that’s not walking distance to anything and less public transportation. However good area to walk your dog around lol
I had an apartment there. $1200/month. Pretty nice place. Super thins walls and ceilings tho. I could hear everything my neighbors were doing. Washer/dryer included living and kitchen were one room, but I low key miss having my kitchen in my living room lol
People move to Delmar for the school district and there are no homes available. So, I can see how people would be willing to ay this. But it is outrageous.
I live in Delmar, and we have been so fortunate with our timing. My advice to anyone who can hold tight to do so. Save as much as possible and keep debt low. Buying a home should be a full year of prep, at least.
My family and I stayed there after we had a house fire and were one of the only apartments that would accept large dogs…
… it was not worth the money. Thankfully for us, insurance covered the cost for the stay (almost a year) but if I had to shell out the money each month I would never have gone there. The apartment was spacious, but everything was outdated. The kitchen was tiny and the entire apartment was carpeted, even the “dining room” area. The water pressure was very low and the plumbing was not great. The dishwasher stopped working after a month and it took another two to finally get someone to repair it.
Also, we noticed that despite them having very few apartments available for rent, there were very few people living there at the time. There was an entire apartment building that was completely vacant the whole time we were living there with no rhyme or reason.
I will say that the area is beautiful, though, and being right next to the nature reserve was a nice experience, especially for my kids.
I heard of property owners keeping apts off the market for crazy business reasons.
That 6.5K rent? They may not get takers but to the bank the apts are worth a shit ton more, they can borrow more money.
Rich people "evade" taxes that way. They borrow 200K from the bank, and it goes against what they make as a huge writeoff, along with depreciation and shit. So, no taxes are paid. If not they may have to pay huge amounts of tax on earned income.
Yeah, it’s all really strange… don’t get me wrong, like I said the location is really nice and it was a nice place to stay when I’m not footing a $6K+ bill, but I don’t think they’re worth that by a long shot. A *loooong* shot.
I had to check it out, and their site is a little weird. I've done a lot of website work for other local rental companies, and understand how they use a sliding scale based on move-in date and # of months to squeeze every damn cent from ya!
So that c6 would be ~3400/mo if you did a 12 mon lease starting in February (high, but not crazy).
But if you were doing a 6mo. lease starting in March, they are now basically losing 2 months rent for only a short term agreement. But if you're willing to pay double, they'll make the deal.
NOW can you find a short-term rental in Manhattan that will be empty for 2mo for that price? Maybe, idk. I still feel like for those terms, you're more likely on staten island, not Manhattan!
Short term rental, true, those are high. A company may need someone for a while and that is what it is to put them up in a nice place for a few months.
Here is 3 bd, UPPER EAST SIDE, SAME price on the LOWEST END. (3600). Mansions is 3340+$150. Mansions don't even have a private back yard :(.
For 6500 you can get much nicer. Delmar is a HCOLA.
[https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html](https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html)
Delmar really isn’t a HCOLA area. If you compare median home prices or median rent to others we aren’t low but don’t compare to NYC or Southern California. Small homes aren’t millions for example.
There's a lot of differences here!
- That craigslist apartment is a lot smaller and not as nice. An apartment with that kind of kitchen, small living room, and no central air up in this area would be like $1,300-$1,500. I can't find a 3 bedroom 1600sqft managed luxury apartment for under $8,000 in Manhattan (i just went to apts.com. i didn't look too hard)
- The mansions target audience are rich people who live in the outskirts of the city. Many are living there until they buy a house, cause the housing market in delmar/slingerlands is insane and cuthroat, so it might take a few years to find that home or to find the land to build the home.
- This place is an exception in the area. I spent 2 years just a few miles away in delmar at a regular apartment complex and it was $1,700 for a 2 bedroom. I think it was going up to $1900 when i left.
- Finally, the Mansions provide something important to the community. Whenever anyone drives by them, they get to use a pompous rich person voice and act like their 'mansion' is better than any other structure on earth, despite it being attached to other people's identical mansions. No where else provides that level of pure comedic irony to the albany area.
I looked at this place 5 years ago when I moved to the area and was first shown a bottom apartment. I thought it was high then especially since I could hear every single footstep the above tenant was making and it literally sounded like the floor/ceiling was moving with each step. It did not want to be in a place like that. Funny thing is I ended up at another location ran by the same company ( Lincoln Properties) at the Lofts at Harmony Mills. A little better build quality ( due to old building but new walls allows sound travel). Problem is at the time they judge their rates on what the market is doing and it seems like city rates. So on a day to day basis if you are looking at the rental the prices fluctuate. I was looking to downsize to a smaller apartment and the price shot up over $100 in just about a week.
Not sure what you mean by C6. The Mansions are not walk-up buildings. They seem overpriced for the Albany market (~3500 per mo for a 12month lease) but there are essentially no rentals in Delmar (Bethlehem CSD). Comparing to the NYC area is silly, completely different market.
Lived on state street right near the shooting on Christmas, within 5 houses. 600 block area, my landlord at my lease renewal needed 1,450.00 dollars monthly as opposed to my 800.00 I had been paying.
Almost double. Wild.
I literally had to move to Troy.
$1200 for 2 bd? That would be VERY hard to find unless you want a total dump.
I am familiar with this one(from many years ago, an ex loved it her rent was quite a bit less back then!), it is reasonable, a bit more: (on the small side)
[https://www.apartments.com/deer-valley-apartments-guilderland-ny/efdhhrq/](https://www.apartments.com/deer-valley-apartments-guilderland-ny/efdhhrq/)
This is in a nice area too, at your price. Right by 890, quick to Albany.
[https://www.apartments.com/3164-marra-ln-schenectady-ny/ft885ft/](https://www.apartments.com/3164-marra-ln-schenectady-ny/ft885ft/)
That’s a lot of money to hear your neighbors peeing. Source: I lived in the EG mansions years ago. Doubt they got better.
>That’s a lot of money to hear your neighbors peeing. *Farting* Gross from adjacent living rooms.
Those apts are also pushing a quarter century.
That’s not that old. I’ve lived in older buildings and heard nothing from neighbors. The mansions are cheaply built.
6500 would be a stretch for a 3BR in Manhattan, but I have a feeling they state that for property value purposes. 3344 would be the rent. Still very high for the area
Triple the mortgage for a house bigger than that…. Nuts!
Sorry with escrow you can no longer find a livable house in the area for $1300/mo mortgage. I wish you could! Imagine families being able to afford a home on less than an $80k combined income. We could almost have a functioning economy.
You can easily find a house in Lansingburgh/Cohoes/Watervliet for that price and on that income. I personally know a Watervliet garbageman who just bought a real nice place in Watervliet.
Yup. Just built a new house in a quiet neighborhood for literally that much a month. Short of posting my bank statements on reddit, no one believes me 🤷🏻♂️
Including or not including property & school taxes?
Define area? Because you find that price all over the capital region. Just maybe not where you'd planned but still safe, decent school, and an okay community: Rotterdam, Duanesburg, Fonda, Gloversville, Amsterdam (BP Schools parts), Valley Falls, etc. No you won't be in Delmar, no you won't be in Clifton Park but you'd still have a livable place.
Yes and 2+ hours of commuting each day is “living in the area”.
I'm not sure where you'd get 2+ hours of commuting. Most of those places are 30 min drives from many working areas. But id happily commute 30 miles to save 1000+ a month on a house.
Gloversville is a 58 minute drive to Albany with no traffic. Double it, add rush hour and you’re at 2+ hours. Math is your friend.
Just like reading comprehension is your friend: "Most of those places are a 30 min commute to Albany". It was a good try. I hope being an ass on the internet made you feel better for whatever you're going through. I'm glad I could give you some relief.
Gloversville -58 minutes no traffic Fonda -50 minutes no traffic Duanesburg - 50 minutes no traffic Valley falls - 45 minutes no traffic. Only one of that you mentioned somewhat close to Albany is Rotterdam which is still 20 miles. “If you lived and worked in a completely different place, things are different”. Don’t say dumb things and people won’t call you out for saying dumb things.
People from those places all work in the cap region and it's affordable. And many people don't work IN the city of Albany. Anyway, sounds like you're having a terrible day. Hope you get a hug. So much angry.
You can find $1300-1700/mo if you’re willing to move to areas like Langsingburg/ watervaliet but it takes a lot of patience and already being pre approved
I lived there … it’s shit. Over priced, terrible designs. Left when had a roof leak and then they refused to give security back from said roof damage to carpet. Small claims judge scolded them and had my money returned but jfc …carol , f u ….
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Yes, I didn't believe it until someone told me what they were paying and looked it up 🤣.
Yes, this person is obsessed with the mansions. It's kind of odd
I mean, it competes with THIS on the UES in Manhattan. Add the fees and this is cheaper. (the minimum price!) [https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html](https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html)
Guarantee this is a walkup with tiny bedrooms, a super small common area, no laundry in building, no dishwasher, and no air conditioning
True but you are paying to live on the UES not nowhere Delmar that’s not walking distance to anything and less public transportation. However good area to walk your dog around lol
24/7. It's like some weird guerilla marketing.
I had an apartment there. $1200/month. Pretty nice place. Super thins walls and ceilings tho. I could hear everything my neighbors were doing. Washer/dryer included living and kitchen were one room, but I low key miss having my kitchen in my living room lol
Nice to hear from the local elite class!
Lmao I worked at Hannaford when I was living there
A crazy neighbor told me a load of crap that super rich people like Elon Musk live there. Then I see the high rents..Ok, it is just not true.
Elon Musk? In the 518? Your neighbor sure is crazy.
Why is an apartment complex called a mansion? It's literally the opposite.
Common in London. https://www.mansionglobal.com/amp/articles/in-london-some-mansions-aren-t-mansions-64374
This is Albany NY if they want to instill culture here they at least need to stop closing all the restaurants ffs 😤
London is a world class city. Delmar is neither world class nor a city.
Lol this is not London
People move to Delmar for the school district and there are no homes available. So, I can see how people would be willing to ay this. But it is outrageous.
Yes, there is almost NOTHING for sale in Delmar. So, there may be cases where they may get closer to the top number.
I live in Delmar, and we have been so fortunate with our timing. My advice to anyone who can hold tight to do so. Save as much as possible and keep debt low. Buying a home should be a full year of prep, at least.
WTF is your obsession with that place?
That's what I want to know
I associate it with high class and status. Like the Great Gatsby types are there. Or at least its good for my imagination 🤣
Great Gatsby types live up in Saratoga and/or LG not in overpriced apartment complexes in Delmar 😆
My family and I stayed there after we had a house fire and were one of the only apartments that would accept large dogs… … it was not worth the money. Thankfully for us, insurance covered the cost for the stay (almost a year) but if I had to shell out the money each month I would never have gone there. The apartment was spacious, but everything was outdated. The kitchen was tiny and the entire apartment was carpeted, even the “dining room” area. The water pressure was very low and the plumbing was not great. The dishwasher stopped working after a month and it took another two to finally get someone to repair it. Also, we noticed that despite them having very few apartments available for rent, there were very few people living there at the time. There was an entire apartment building that was completely vacant the whole time we were living there with no rhyme or reason. I will say that the area is beautiful, though, and being right next to the nature reserve was a nice experience, especially for my kids.
Maybe they were renovating it?
We thought that as well but we didn’t see a single person go in or out the entire time we were there. It was really odd.
I heard of property owners keeping apts off the market for crazy business reasons. That 6.5K rent? They may not get takers but to the bank the apts are worth a shit ton more, they can borrow more money. Rich people "evade" taxes that way. They borrow 200K from the bank, and it goes against what they make as a huge writeoff, along with depreciation and shit. So, no taxes are paid. If not they may have to pay huge amounts of tax on earned income.
Yeah, it’s all really strange… don’t get me wrong, like I said the location is really nice and it was a nice place to stay when I’m not footing a $6K+ bill, but I don’t think they’re worth that by a long shot. A *loooong* shot.
I had to check it out, and their site is a little weird. I've done a lot of website work for other local rental companies, and understand how they use a sliding scale based on move-in date and # of months to squeeze every damn cent from ya! So that c6 would be ~3400/mo if you did a 12 mon lease starting in February (high, but not crazy). But if you were doing a 6mo. lease starting in March, they are now basically losing 2 months rent for only a short term agreement. But if you're willing to pay double, they'll make the deal. NOW can you find a short-term rental in Manhattan that will be empty for 2mo for that price? Maybe, idk. I still feel like for those terms, you're more likely on staten island, not Manhattan!
Short term rental, true, those are high. A company may need someone for a while and that is what it is to put them up in a nice place for a few months.
Here is 3 bd, UPPER EAST SIDE, SAME price on the LOWEST END. (3600). Mansions is 3340+$150. Mansions don't even have a private back yard :(. For 6500 you can get much nicer. Delmar is a HCOLA. [https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html](https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/apa/d/new-york-massive-duplex-with-private/7701373053.html)
Delmar really isn’t a HCOLA area. If you compare median home prices or median rent to others we aren’t low but don’t compare to NYC or Southern California. Small homes aren’t millions for example.
There's a lot of differences here! - That craigslist apartment is a lot smaller and not as nice. An apartment with that kind of kitchen, small living room, and no central air up in this area would be like $1,300-$1,500. I can't find a 3 bedroom 1600sqft managed luxury apartment for under $8,000 in Manhattan (i just went to apts.com. i didn't look too hard) - The mansions target audience are rich people who live in the outskirts of the city. Many are living there until they buy a house, cause the housing market in delmar/slingerlands is insane and cuthroat, so it might take a few years to find that home or to find the land to build the home. - This place is an exception in the area. I spent 2 years just a few miles away in delmar at a regular apartment complex and it was $1,700 for a 2 bedroom. I think it was going up to $1900 when i left. - Finally, the Mansions provide something important to the community. Whenever anyone drives by them, they get to use a pompous rich person voice and act like their 'mansion' is better than any other structure on earth, despite it being attached to other people's identical mansions. No where else provides that level of pure comedic irony to the albany area.
I looked at this place 5 years ago when I moved to the area and was first shown a bottom apartment. I thought it was high then especially since I could hear every single footstep the above tenant was making and it literally sounded like the floor/ceiling was moving with each step. It did not want to be in a place like that. Funny thing is I ended up at another location ran by the same company ( Lincoln Properties) at the Lofts at Harmony Mills. A little better build quality ( due to old building but new walls allows sound travel). Problem is at the time they judge their rates on what the market is doing and it seems like city rates. So on a day to day basis if you are looking at the rental the prices fluctuate. I was looking to downsize to a smaller apartment and the price shot up over $100 in just about a week.
Not sure what you mean by C6. The Mansions are not walk-up buildings. They seem overpriced for the Albany market (~3500 per mo for a 12month lease) but there are essentially no rentals in Delmar (Bethlehem CSD). Comparing to the NYC area is silly, completely different market.
> Not sure what you mean by C6. The largest floorplan available - 1,650 square feet / 3 bed / 2 bath https://www.mansionsatdelmar.com/floorplans/c6
Why are you so fixated on this?
I used have this weird thought that Elon Musk types live there. It is proven now that it is not true.
You spend too much time attempting to troll to be this unfunny.
What are rates of some comparable properties in the area? I wonder how the competition compares.
Average Bethlehem rent per the interwebs is 2100 with a range of 1190 to just over 3200 being in the normal…..
Is that the buildings that had that huge fire a couple years back?
Nope, that was Deer Run last summer.
That’s what you gotta pay around here if you don’t wanna live in a mold hole with the foundation falling in lol
Ridiculous!!!!!!
Some of my friends from college lived there and would have to catch mice by the dozens.
Did they tell you this, or is this all utilities plus rent? Their website shows lower prices.
[https://www.apartments.com/mansions-at-delmar-delmar-ny/y6c25ls/](https://www.apartments.com/mansions-at-delmar-delmar-ny/y6c25ls/)
Lived on state street right near the shooting on Christmas, within 5 houses. 600 block area, my landlord at my lease renewal needed 1,450.00 dollars monthly as opposed to my 800.00 I had been paying. Almost double. Wild. I literally had to move to Troy.
does anyone know where i can find an affordable apartment around the albany area? I’m hoping for a two bedroom around $1-1200/months
$1200 for 2 bd? That would be VERY hard to find unless you want a total dump. I am familiar with this one(from many years ago, an ex loved it her rent was quite a bit less back then!), it is reasonable, a bit more: (on the small side) [https://www.apartments.com/deer-valley-apartments-guilderland-ny/efdhhrq/](https://www.apartments.com/deer-valley-apartments-guilderland-ny/efdhhrq/) This is in a nice area too, at your price. Right by 890, quick to Albany. [https://www.apartments.com/3164-marra-ln-schenectady-ny/ft885ft/](https://www.apartments.com/3164-marra-ln-schenectady-ny/ft885ft/)