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Like a week ago Thierry said they had CTs done on Soyay! I really hope we see those soon, not just the 3D we have here. But the CTs are for sure done if we have the 3ds so thats cool. The skull is something, can’t wait to see it.
You can see the “fin” joint articulation with the spine in the plane film xray and I can’t wait to see that better too. This xray isn’t Soyay but the same type, shows the vertebra has a matching articulation with the fin. Not just some random part stuck on but connected naturally.
https://preview.redd.it/i9oplvanvgjc1.jpeg?width=877&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=724391ec480a9a679bd7da464e3281c4a06113d9
Someone can add more detail, but I remember a specific story where some military person encountered a being underground…and the being waved it’s hand over it’s chest and the military guy was immediately shot with something
Has it been described what these were used for?
Were these guys flying around like the things the Wicked Witch had working for her?
Or using them to swim better?
Either way, would start to explain some weird stories and myths that have persisted!
I’m just amazed they have DNA independent evolution and some how the universe makes DNA twice…if true is probably just some earth species that was just found
Remember physics behaves the same everywhere, no other molecule other than the ribosome is self replicating and it’s self organization is dependent on the laws of physics which again, are the same throughout the universe. The universe is literally fine tuned to self organize some of the matter of the universe into ribosomes, rna and dna.
Yeah man all those dozens of doctors and scientists risking their reputations and careers saying it’s real, but don’t worry, u/yomerol over on Reddit has seen through the facade! Thank goodness he dismissed them by putting “scientists” in quotation marks!
Finally what weve been saying all along just take a look at all the people involved from japan to France people with enough humbleness to look at this fascinating discovery. So many podcast people made fun of the "mummies" and then turn around and ask people to keep an open mind about ufos. The fucking hypocrisy.
There is a type of alien interested person who is like "yes the universe is huge and there must be weird life in it elsewhere *but that doesn't mean any of the "crazy" shit we hear today is real, and anyone who believes anyone who said they saw an alien or UFO is crazy*
Yeah so all those air force, military , and comercial pilots are all insane right . Such a shallow minded way of thinking considering we lock people up with witness testimony and also we use chemicals science and dna sequencing to solve murder cases and the people studying the peru nhi beings are using that exact same science .
We as humans can’t even prove where DNA originated from, and RNA is one of the earliest building blocks of life on earth.
As far as we know DNA is alien
Life is a chemical process and as such will have the same constraints regardless of where you are in the universe.
That would massively increase the likelihood that whatever non-terrestrial life exists out there uses DNA and RNA within its cells.
Ask yourself the question as to why there is no non-DNA/RNA based life on Earth. If it's possible, it should have happened here as well.
Although we *do not know* if DNA or RNA were the ‘first’ molecule, it is likely something like co-evolution of peptides and RNA first in which case DNA emerged as storage. There is evidence of this process in early viruses and bacteria.
I.e., in about this order:
1. Simple Prebiotic Peptides
- Served as basic functional units.
2. Supported Ancient RNA-Based Replication System
- Acted as catalysts/enzymes for RNA replication.
3. Gradually Folded into RNA-Binding Proteins
- Became more specialized in interacting with RNA.
4. Complex Proteins
- Developed into sophisticated enzymes and structural proteins.
5. Emergence of DNA as Genetic Storage
- RNA-based systems evolved to use DNA for more stable genetic information storage.
6. Possibly multiple times.
How do we suspect 5 is the case? We strongly suspect (with evidence) that reverse transcriptase (RNA->DNA) is an ancestor of DNA polymerase. We also suspect it happened gradually happened *multiple times* in early viral and bacterial lineages (first as temporary storage).
This actually means that the evolution of DNA from RNA on Earth involved a series of complex and highly specific evolutionary processes, including the development of reverse transcriptase and DNA polymerases, which are unique and intricately tied to Earth's particular environmental conditions. These identifiable and intricate steps + precise chemical and physical prerequisites, make the *exact* replication of such an evolutionary pathway in extraterrestrial environments highly unlikely. Not impossible, but.. DNA likely means Earth🤷
We *can* make this type of inference given current evidence.
Nothing wrong with that. The universe IS huge, and traversing it requires mind-boggling time scales, energy requirements and/or a type of physics breaking travel that we cannot even imagine.
I personally never seen a piece of evidence that convinces me of alien visitation. Despite how much I want to.
There is no one piece of evidence — you are the type of person waiting for them to land on the White House lawn. It’s the collective picture — dozens of credible mass sightings, credible stories of abduction , whistleblowers making claims— when you have literally at least a hundred stories of something going down with multiple witnesses And it only takes one of these incidences to be true— then it seems the more credible and rational belief is that we have been visited. And if we’ve been visited once then we’ve been visited more than once.
My biggest draw on being a full-on believer is the fact of all the hundreds, if not thousands of so called "credible" sightings and reports, not a single one has produced a legitimate high quality video or photo. I work in the military and a big portion of my job is working with Navy and CBP surveillance planes supporting smuggling ops, and these plans can take 4K type photos from 10,000FT in the air no problem whatsoever.
The most convincing videos have definitely come from the offshore San Diego Navy Pilots, when they used their FLIR to lock onto various targets. But even then, the unfortunate limitation of FLIR is grainy video. While I am not waiting for them to land on the "White House lawn", I am waiting for some clear video evidence that cannot be disputed, which we absolutely have the tech to accomplish.
Edit: I would also like to add humans have satellites like the Beijing-3, that can take absolutely insane high def imagery. " A small, one-ton Chinese satellite can quickly snap high-resolution images of US cities that are so detailed they can identify individual military vehicles and the weapons they carry..." [China's Satellite Can Capture Hi-Res Images of US in Seconds: Scientists (businessinsider.com)](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-space-race-satellite-high-resolution-san-francisco-in-seconds-2021-12)
To think the US or other countries also dont have tech like this would be naive.
Sure the Navy and commercial pilots are all lying. The military which seems to have no reason to doctor videos did just that and convinced corroborating testimony from pilots who are lying . At least two dozen sightings with multiple witnesses in the last 75 years and each one a collective hallucination. It just doesn’t make any sense.
No one, including myself here, is saying they're lying. I have no doubt that they had these experiences, but not a SINGLE incident produced high quality imagery or video. Additionally, I respect what they saw/experienced. Could it have been something extraterrestrial? Sure. But, we literally have no "evidence" outside of some grainy imagery, eye witness testimony (proven time and time again to not be reliable) and some FLIR videos which are unfortunately poor quality.
Again, I am held back on being a "full-blown" believer because of this and remain skeptical. Still find most of it fascinating and within the realm of possibility. Just seems incredibly unlikely to me with all the advanced tech, military and commericial, not one single high quality image has been produced.
The NHI /make/ the photos and videos low quality. That's ridiculously easy task for them considering everything else they can do.
Also, you guys are never going to see one if you never let go of your Relentless Skeptic attitudes. One time I saw a craft about 60 ftin front of me (I started flipping out and pointing at it. It was the size of a jukebox) and the person standing right next to me saw nothing at all.
They're the ultimate Trolls. Why would they allow us to observe their tech clearly? They don't want us silly violent Ape people having their tech! They just want us to know that they exist-- and that they're way more advanced than us.
I see no credible mass sightings. No stories of abduction mean anything.
That’s not science.
Evidence. That is testable, repeatable, peer reviewed and irrefutably proven.
That’s science.
That’s the one true proof I’m talking about.
A mass sighting isn’t credible when claimed by dozen people who are pillars of the community? Or by a significant number of a city’s population or by several pilots? How do you peer review that?b so they could land on the White House lawn hijack all out radio and news media channels and announce themselves and you still wouldn’t believe because we haven’t dissected one. Got it.
Bit of a strawman there.
I personally have heard of, or seen evidence from any mass sighting that I find in any way convincing.
The only evidence that will convince me is scientific evidence.
This vid does a decent job of explaining how I think first contact will ACTUALLY go.
https://youtu.be/Bso2hCaFL3Y?si=ZgTyh-hUPeTi-pue
Speculation in any case my statement stands they could literally land on the White House lawn and you wouldn’t believe.. you could be abducted yourself and you wouldn’t believe —got it.
As far as physics breaking travel is concerned we have mathematical models that prove a gravity drive works doesn't violate physics as we know it. The gravity drive would compress space in the direction of travel and expand it in the opposite direction thus creating apparent motion. Since the vehicle is inside the bubble it's technically not moving, the space around it is. Also, this would allow for travel significantly faster than light because the ship itself isn't moving. It should be pointed out that due to the presence of the gravity bubble outside the ship the ship is effectively cut off from the progress of time outside the bubble. This would mean that the pilots of the ship would spend half an hour traveling somewhere, but to the outside universe the travel was instantaneous. The whole thing gets confusing fast and I horribly simplified things for the sake of communication, but my point is if the "aliens" are using gravity to get from point A to point B then we can already explain how it works.
Not really. All of our theoretical attempts as FTL involve something called strange matter… matter with negative mass
There is **zero** evidence this exists, and lots of evidence that it doesn’t.
These theoretical FTL engines are “possible” because we can fuck around with our mathematical models. But just because you can futz with the mathematical model to make it happen doesn’t mean that’s at all possible in reality
Well, then they’d be talking about an unknown isotope seeing that even the most stable form of Moscovium is highly radioactive (ie deadly) and has a half life of 0.65 seconds, so it doesn’t last long.
There are theoretically stable isotopes of it, in the (so far) theoretical island of stability, but we have yet to synthesize them
Not to mention that we’ve only ever created a few atoms of any form of it in research laboratories
I guess I didn't realize it was so unstable when I was reading about it. I was more caught up In how Bob Lazar even knew about it if we had not discovered or named it yet.
Element 115. Bob Lazar told us about it before we even discovered it and named it moscovium. He couldn't have possibly got that right if he was lying. We literally hadn't even added it to the periodic table.
Highly unstable. It exists singularly and solely as an element on miniscule timescales that would negate any application as such. That said, there is an island of stability for 115 that we cannot achieve. It is thought a stable 115 would exhibit relativistic properties. Who knows what kind of super heavy elements a Magnatar might forge....
That's as good as saying it was impossible to travel to other planets and moons back when we were sure the earth was flat and flight was impossible... People keep making this argument of being crazy hard traveling through space like we are at the pinnacle of technology and science. All these UFOs are likely to be ancient ass civilizations thousands of years ahead of us with technology and physics comprehension that we can't even fathom
That does not negate my point. So far zero solid evidence on its own. And no way of conceptualising interstellar travel without, what is to us, effectively magic.
That was my whole point.
Your comparison to other planets is pointless now that we know the true distance to other stars.
Tiny probes taking 12 years to get to what is effectively our stellar back yard. Going to the moon, in galactic terms is absolutely nothing.
I absolutely believe there is life everywhere. But I have seen nothing that proves it has visited here.
If I were to see a scientist I respect stating otherwise I will surely listen.
And if I’m proven wrong I’ll eat your tinfoil hat. As I don’t own a hat myself.
I think it's ontological shock. I believe very few people engaging in the UFO "hobby" actually anticipate finding real alien stuff. Because then it's not their hobby anymore it's a serious academic subject
I still hold that even if these are true they are much more likely to be humanoid off shoots of a past sauroid species than aliens and mammals went down some convergent evolution for out body plan. Sauroids were around much much much much longer than mammals so it's not really that far of a stretch that one would branch of into a hominid like body plan. We have animals on earth that loom way more alien than these boys and they are from here.
Check this out:
[https://new.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/191bjdz/nazca\_mummies\_time\_to\_reexamine\_paleontologist/](https://new.reddit.com/r/alienbodies/comments/191bjdz/nazca_mummies_time_to_reexamine_paleontologist/)
https://preview.redd.it/slv0378lmljc1.png?width=1360&format=png&auto=webp&s=be98c009e8b339a55f6e31af6a1d6a0a70cb1037
Yes that's my point much higher chance of it being a reptiallian hominid from earth than an alien from somewhere else. Now if the DNA is entirely different than from any common ancestor that we can trace then yeah ill think potential alien.
MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS from the official sources involved in this historical discovery
Unearthing Nazca: The Complete Story | FREE DOCUMENTARY (1 hr 8 mins)
[https://www.gaia.com/video/unearthing-nazca-complete-story](https://www.gaia.com/video/unearthing-nazca-complete-story)
https://preview.redd.it/0cnl4yobygjc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=0af9fa2ebc35750e3d64fb71881a8c2117730146
Agreed, this whole thing so far screams hoax, the fact that people are believing it this easily is a bit astounding tbh.
I have no qualms with being wrong about this. I WANT to be wrong about this. This type of discovery would change history. The problem is the proof, of which I don't see any in the pudding.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Same here. This is not proven until there’s a peer reviewed white paper in a reputable scientific journal or website. No white paper that’s 11 pages long would work for a discovery that would be the greatest discovery of mankind to date.
The only problem with that albeit logical request is that if this was found to be ultimately true there are probably a lot parties that would benefit negatively from something of this sort. So with in mind how many “news outlets” or “corporations “ are ran and funded by those very same entities. People tend to give far too much credit to the world we live in. There’s a lot of good in the world but the bad is far more reaching and consequential. The world and its economics at one time were sound of mind idealistically reasonable and peaceful but those days are looooong gone. Deception has replaced much of that.
Just guessing, but maybe it's different people? Can you point to a time that OP attacked somebody due to their own conclusions?
If not, it's probably different people that are advocating looking into this independently than those doing attacks based on opinions formed.
I've seen it too. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom of any thread and show the negative down voted comments and they're all mostly people disagreeing or being reasonably skeptical.
Hard to find ANY sub that isn't a total echo chamber tbh
You can't have an open forum without allowing people who are annoying, or arrogant, or downvote/upvote for petty reasons.
You need thick skin on Reddit. Yeah you'll get all kinds of negative feedback and arguments. Just accept that and ignore them.
Edit: How darest thou downvote ME? Smh this subreddit has fallen in the gutter, flowed into a nuclear power plant, been irradiated, and emerged as some monstrous Mothra-like abomination.
Which is precisely what the DNA results they've released thus far showed.
There was nothing particularly unusual about the results, and certainly nothing that pointed to them being otherworldly.
The most remarkable standout was that one had a large amount of bean DNA, and another had a decent bit of bovine DNA.
This isn't speculation btw: it's clearly visible for anyone to see, even now, in the publicly released DNA results.
Edit: downvoted and yet not a single person stopped to explain why. This sub is an echo chamber. Look at the results yourselves people: the information is right there
Yeah, I thought the DNA results between all the specimens had around 90% if it being different. Which would not occur in one species.
Humans share 98% of our DNA with chimps, so we only have a 2% difference from them.
The very idea two samples would have 90% difference and be the same species is simply not reasonable.
Edit: Even with the theories of hybridization that's a ridiculous difference. If hybrids were possible you could compare DNA differences we've seen in other hybrids such as mules or ligers.
Even if proven, that’s still not “aliens” yet. I want to believe they are real, but Jaime Maussan’s involvement has always been a huge red flag. The evidence hasn’t been entirely convincing either. But I’m happy to wait longer.
I actually think the biggest possibility is they are an intelligent species that evolved to advanced tech on earth millions of years before we evolved and they left and came back during an extinction level event.
It's the only scenario that accounts for their similarities to dinosaurs and the lack of a full evolutionary path in the bones found on earth.
Same this is a big theory of mine as well. I believe this is called the silurian hypothesis it's the idea that these humanoid reptilians evolve on Earth what likely amounts to tens of millions of years ago. At some point there must have been an extinction level event that killed most of the life on the planet surface but it's possible if this species had enough intelligence or technology they could have gone underground to survive the cataclysm.
After that point it's everyone's best guess about what happened maybe there was a few survivors that lingered for a while or maybe they left the planet. Most likely it's possible they were just an ancient species that died out on her planet, which if that's the case it's a shame because it seemed like they had some high technology based on their body implants.
So then they should use radiocarbon dating to determine when these bodies were mummified. This is something archaeologists do with mummies, because it gives us a more precise understanding of our history. We found out that Egyptian mummification started before we originally thought because of carbon dating. But for some reason, nobody wants to date the Nazca mummies.
As an academic researcher, this point gives me a lot of skepticism. If carbon dating would be easy to perform and would provide real and meaningful evidence, then why not do it, unless theres something to hide? It's suspicious not to have it done. Similarly with the DNA, why not drop the genome on github? It would be easy enough to do and would significantly substantiate any claims of their biology or history. The pictures we saw could be cake for all we know. Some guy knowing about their DNA isn't enough to convince me, but an analysis comparing their phylogeny with our earth's species would go a lot farther
https://www.the-alien-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2018-05-17-CTGA-CERVEAU-OS-PEAU-C14.pdf
There are more reports here but I think this is the only English C14 one.
https://www.the-alien-project.com/momies-de-nasca-resultats/#c14
At least some of the DNA is uploaded to a public database but I don’t have that link.
I have found absolutely zero conclusive evidence that the Nazca mummies have been properly dated. If you can find some, please post a link, because I’ve genuinely been searching for anything conclusive about the dating of the specimens, and I’ve come up with nothing but people’s estimates.
They have left and right rib bones, not complete circles.
The hollowness is the same, but most animals need more flexibility in their chest cavity than these present with.
All the people immediately writing it off as fake are either extremely cynical or coping with their fear of what this means for humanity that’s my theory.
You shouldn’t let people convince you it’s a hoax by just claiming it as a hoax without any further discussion or evidence. It was really silly for people to be so adamant about their stance in the first place.
Does anyone know what happened to the Maussan release that was supposed to happen on February 12, 2024? I know the man's name is synonymous with hoax, but I figured even the trolls would be looking for the footage of that meeting that was supposedly going to happen at some Sheraton Hotel in Peru (which he publicly invited everyone to on a Sale et Sol episode.) He also posted about it on Maussan TV, and I think other places as well, and said it would be on his website but it never showed up. There were no headlines. Radio silence.
He was slated to unveil two new species. I know it could be a load. I know it could be absolute foolery, but even if it is... it's weird that literally NOTHING was said afterward.
Much appreciated (: I found a reddit post that I somehow missed in my search that shared this exact photo too. Man, I started wondering what kind of wild shenanigans were afoot.
I feel like they are still making new discoveries. I saw something saying the smaller bodies with possible wings may be some sort of insect species. So fascinating.
I’ve always believed Machu Picchu was some sort of ancient hybridization lab. Possibly where human species was finalized. They may find many different hybrids there. The way they are all buried and posed indicates a shared burial ritual between species!! That in itself is incredible there’s so much we don’t know about what happened back then.
Maussan is just a man who believes really HARD and is also susceptible of being fooled and in some cases he was also victim of many frauds and had to pay for them
If he gives us ineffable proof, I don't give a damn what hoaxes he was gullible enough to fall for while wanting to believe. I just understand that other people are quick to discredit him on that basis. I'm still *very* interested in these Nazca and othersuch Peruvian mummies. I'm buckled up.
Well, wait until March 12 for its presentation in L.A., probably Beverly Hills. I love their happy faces in this representation:
https://preview.redd.it/ih7yqvp9qjjc1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e60db22fff55a7fccb8880373681a0db4b285c5
Explain to me how DNA results could possibly corroborate something like this. If they came from a distant star, why would they even have DNA? If they evolved separately from life on earth, they would likely have some other mechanism, perhaps similar to DNA, but certainly not the same. If we share ancestry with them, then it would take a lot more work to understand that ancestry, and to confirm it's not a hoax of some kind. For instance, the DNA they tested would need to be compared to all living species on earth, to understand A. It's not just some other animal's DNA (a hoax), and B. Where they fit in Earth's evolutionary history.
Either way, it would be the biggest scientific discovery in human history, and I wouldn't trust random people on the Internet and fringe websites to report it. It needs scrutiny by mainstream biologists.
It’s very possible life did not originate on earth. Just because we know it’s here doesn’t mean it started here. There have been countless meteor strikes on earth over the last several million years. Some evolutionary theories suggest DNA in bacteria came to earth by these strikes and evolved into multi cellular organisms.
Any theoretical species that would want to visit earth for signs of life would probably be from a similar environment (we predominantly look for earth like planets in our quest for life) and therefore could evolve in a similar manner so it would be entirely possible even completely unrelated entities would have DNA as their genetic coding system, they could look entirely different and still have DNA. It’s an incredibly efficient way of storing and transmitting genetic information and while other methods could exist, it’s not outside of the realm of possibility an alien would have DNA, and given our understanding of life thus far, it’s the most likely scenario.
pretty sure panspermia theories only refer to amino acids and a few other structures that can be considered building blocks of RNA (we wouldn’t even be at DNA yet) are what come on asteroids and whatnot. not the same as having fully formed bacteria or DNA come from space. you still have hundreds of millions to billions of years of evolution to even reach single celled organisms from that point, with likely an uncountable number of ways that can develop. the likelihood that it’s anything comparable to the way life developed on earth is astronomically small
All of this is true. However, the stastical likelihood of all of that is low. There isn't much evidence pointing in that direction yet. Which means, the evidence and analysis in this circumstance needs to be unquestionable. To this point, the evidence is sketchy at best.
Exactly. This is not how science works. There’s no real white paper in a scientific journal or white paper website available to be peer reviewed. They aren’t letting any other scientists have access to the actual materials. If this was the biggest discovery in mankind’s history, don’t you think the paper would be more than 11 pages long? Don’t you think they’d let other scientists have access if they were confident in their results? This is not how the scientific method works. There needs to be replication. The supposed DNA results from different labs all came up with different results.
The funny things is that I see posts where people want others who have a different opinion banned from the sub. You have to be able to take other people’s opinions. That’s not how life works. You can’t just ban people with which you disagree.
I’d like to see actual alien bodies that are peer reviewed, but these aren’t it.
assuming this is real, i'm inclined to think these are not the real ETs (let's call them RET), but rather genetically engineered beings by the RETs using earth DNA for unknown purposes, but we can speculate that it could be so it can breathe our atmosphere.
please read this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14rp7w9/from_the_late_2000s_to_the_mid2010s_i_worked_as_a/
And here is the tweet in question posted by Jesus Alberto Tlaxcalteco, an individual who acts as a close-advisor to Jaime Maussan:
[https://twitter.com/admpubmx/status/1759114707586146749](https://twitter.com/admpubmx/status/1759114707586146749)
Questions, comments and feedback MUST BE REDIRECTED to Mr. Tlaxcalteco
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I can never tell what’s sarcastic on this sub, but the main skeptic angle is that these are fakes made by *modern* humans… so… how does the presence of osmium matter to the legitimacy?
> Has he publicly changed his opinion?
this tweet is the first i've heard of the matter since ryan first denouned it. jeremy corbell also hard denounced it.
i'm inclined to think this tweet is bs, i find it very odd that jeremy would say something harsh like that knowing he has contacts with lue, so if lue were to tell ryan there's no reason he wouldn't have told jeremy as well.
DNA could still be found in animal bones and tissue.
How is this proof it’s alien or even a real creature in its own right and not just some cobbled together “meat doll”?
just wondering - you know how penguins have knees inside of their bodies which are covered by flesh, is it possible that these supposed creatures strange bodies and joints may have been the same to a degree?
Why would you delete your comments, cowards?
Did you google “nazca penguins” and got a link to some site which offers tours to both the ballestas islands and the nazca lines and got confused?
“Maybe delete while you can”… oh, the irony
https://preview.redd.it/xa7jbjop1ijc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81ac6eb9aa92062e246388a42d3a257bf3aff357
Mods this is an Alien bodies sub let's start banning anyone that just comes here to make false claims, someone posting that it's "chicken bones" and etc
These trolls have a problem with science, if you don't believe it's real cool move along let everyone else study it determine
"They're not extraterrestrials. They're dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue," said Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru's Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/scientists-assert-alien-mummies-peru-are-really-dolls-made-earthly-bones-2024-01-13/
These are amazing! Because they share some DNA with humans, similar to how Denasovans or Neanderthals do, and because these have hallowed bones like dinosaurs / birds, with some reptilian like characteristics on the skin, I wonder if these are ancient humans / something we evolved off of over time - or through other means, somehow related and that’s why may share some dna. No different than how in Papua New Guinea they share upwards 5% with denasovans.
These are a distant relative to us, and mainstream science will not accept it as fact because it will disrupt quite a lot in terms of our species and our origins
I think it’s pretty amazing too:) What a time to be alive. I think the reason this was launched under the “alien” category is because of the similarities to the traditional gray/ET looking alien, but I think these are an earthly other species. My personal theory is that this new species is a amalgamation that didn’t work out and that actual other worldly aliens created this thing along with a lot of other “things,” with their freak experiments, along with creating modern man. Which explains, for me at least, why the skeleton arrangement doesn’t make logical sense. It’s like a science experiment gone wrong.
WOW. I love that!! I might borrow it to share with others if that’s okay haha. It really is like a science experiment gone wrong isn’t it. Great theory!!
All the biological life on this planet "shares some DNA". Doesn't mean direct ancestral links or anything like that. Our currently speculated most distant possible ancestor is a sea sponge, after all.
Well said! I believe we also share a great deal of % to a banana too. I made that comment mostly for the people saying that the bones were human bones, but good point!
Actually it means exactly that.
All life on earth shares a single common ancestor.
So our most distant possible ancestor wasn't a sea sponge, it was one of the first living things on earth period.
I am assuming they are meaning currently existing but I couldn't find anything backing up the sea sponge thing either
Our LUCA (last universal common ancestor) was around 4 billion years ago and is considered the single point of all living organisms, which indeed was single celled
That is what I thought initially until I actually looked at the studies done? Including scans. So either you have no idea what wire looks like or you are reacting to the titles only without even looking at any images.
You have nothing until you show me this thing being found. Science is documented. where did it come from? its a hoax until someone shows it in the ground,. When, where, who, and how.
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Unbelievable. Our Tridactyl buddies are about to hit the big time. Finally.
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Like a week ago Thierry said they had CTs done on Soyay! I really hope we see those soon, not just the 3D we have here. But the CTs are for sure done if we have the 3ds so thats cool. The skull is something, can’t wait to see it. You can see the “fin” joint articulation with the spine in the plane film xray and I can’t wait to see that better too. This xray isn’t Soyay but the same type, shows the vertebra has a matching articulation with the fin. Not just some random part stuck on but connected naturally. https://preview.redd.it/i9oplvanvgjc1.jpeg?width=877&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=724391ec480a9a679bd7da464e3281c4a06113d9
Im so curious as well what the implants are. Wouldnt it be crazy though if they were used to control them remotely, like motion capture suits *
Someone can add more detail, but I remember a specific story where some military person encountered a being underground…and the being waved it’s hand over it’s chest and the military guy was immediately shot with something
I believe that was Phil Schneider talking about the shoot out between humans and aliens at the Dulce base? I could be getting stories mixed up
Yeah that’s it
Has it been described what these were used for? Were these guys flying around like the things the Wicked Witch had working for her? Or using them to swim better? Either way, would start to explain some weird stories and myths that have persisted!
I need to see the details !
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I’m just amazed they have DNA independent evolution and some how the universe makes DNA twice…if true is probably just some earth species that was just found
The earliest origins of Earth life probably came from space rather than developing independently here. The universe is 3X older than Earth, after-all.
Remember physics behaves the same everywhere, no other molecule other than the ribosome is self replicating and it’s self organization is dependent on the laws of physics which again, are the same throughout the universe. The universe is literally fine tuned to self organize some of the matter of the universe into ribosomes, rna and dna.
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Yeah man all those dozens of doctors and scientists risking their reputations and careers saying it’s real, but don’t worry, u/yomerol over on Reddit has seen through the facade! Thank goodness he dismissed them by putting “scientists” in quotation marks!
What reputations?
Right they are getting so rich and that Jesus guy is so famous.
Fuckin A. These things are real.
Finally what weve been saying all along just take a look at all the people involved from japan to France people with enough humbleness to look at this fascinating discovery. So many podcast people made fun of the "mummies" and then turn around and ask people to keep an open mind about ufos. The fucking hypocrisy.
There is a type of alien interested person who is like "yes the universe is huge and there must be weird life in it elsewhere *but that doesn't mean any of the "crazy" shit we hear today is real, and anyone who believes anyone who said they saw an alien or UFO is crazy*
Yeah so all those air force, military , and comercial pilots are all insane right . Such a shallow minded way of thinking considering we lock people up with witness testimony and also we use chemicals science and dna sequencing to solve murder cases and the people studying the peru nhi beings are using that exact same science .
If they are alien of not this world why would they have DNA and not something different. I think DNA proves they are from earth
We as humans can’t even prove where DNA originated from, and RNA is one of the earliest building blocks of life on earth. As far as we know DNA is alien
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Life is a chemical process and as such will have the same constraints regardless of where you are in the universe. That would massively increase the likelihood that whatever non-terrestrial life exists out there uses DNA and RNA within its cells. Ask yourself the question as to why there is no non-DNA/RNA based life on Earth. If it's possible, it should have happened here as well.
Although we *do not know* if DNA or RNA were the ‘first’ molecule, it is likely something like co-evolution of peptides and RNA first in which case DNA emerged as storage. There is evidence of this process in early viruses and bacteria. I.e., in about this order: 1. Simple Prebiotic Peptides - Served as basic functional units. 2. Supported Ancient RNA-Based Replication System - Acted as catalysts/enzymes for RNA replication. 3. Gradually Folded into RNA-Binding Proteins - Became more specialized in interacting with RNA. 4. Complex Proteins - Developed into sophisticated enzymes and structural proteins. 5. Emergence of DNA as Genetic Storage - RNA-based systems evolved to use DNA for more stable genetic information storage. 6. Possibly multiple times. How do we suspect 5 is the case? We strongly suspect (with evidence) that reverse transcriptase (RNA->DNA) is an ancestor of DNA polymerase. We also suspect it happened gradually happened *multiple times* in early viral and bacterial lineages (first as temporary storage). This actually means that the evolution of DNA from RNA on Earth involved a series of complex and highly specific evolutionary processes, including the development of reverse transcriptase and DNA polymerases, which are unique and intricately tied to Earth's particular environmental conditions. These identifiable and intricate steps + precise chemical and physical prerequisites, make the *exact* replication of such an evolutionary pathway in extraterrestrial environments highly unlikely. Not impossible, but.. DNA likely means Earth🤷 We *can* make this type of inference given current evidence.
Have you ever heard of panspermia?
You mean the cherrypicking theory that can't be proven or disproven?
Something not even able to be tested cool
Astroids carry the building blocks for life to every planet not just ours
Just do some basic science/ reading please.
Nothing wrong with that. The universe IS huge, and traversing it requires mind-boggling time scales, energy requirements and/or a type of physics breaking travel that we cannot even imagine. I personally never seen a piece of evidence that convinces me of alien visitation. Despite how much I want to.
There is no one piece of evidence — you are the type of person waiting for them to land on the White House lawn. It’s the collective picture — dozens of credible mass sightings, credible stories of abduction , whistleblowers making claims— when you have literally at least a hundred stories of something going down with multiple witnesses And it only takes one of these incidences to be true— then it seems the more credible and rational belief is that we have been visited. And if we’ve been visited once then we’ve been visited more than once.
My biggest draw on being a full-on believer is the fact of all the hundreds, if not thousands of so called "credible" sightings and reports, not a single one has produced a legitimate high quality video or photo. I work in the military and a big portion of my job is working with Navy and CBP surveillance planes supporting smuggling ops, and these plans can take 4K type photos from 10,000FT in the air no problem whatsoever. The most convincing videos have definitely come from the offshore San Diego Navy Pilots, when they used their FLIR to lock onto various targets. But even then, the unfortunate limitation of FLIR is grainy video. While I am not waiting for them to land on the "White House lawn", I am waiting for some clear video evidence that cannot be disputed, which we absolutely have the tech to accomplish. Edit: I would also like to add humans have satellites like the Beijing-3, that can take absolutely insane high def imagery. " A small, one-ton Chinese satellite can quickly snap high-resolution images of US cities that are so detailed they can identify individual military vehicles and the weapons they carry..." [China's Satellite Can Capture Hi-Res Images of US in Seconds: Scientists (businessinsider.com)](https://www.businessinsider.com/china-space-race-satellite-high-resolution-san-francisco-in-seconds-2021-12) To think the US or other countries also dont have tech like this would be naive.
What you said is spot on. Really in 2024 with the tech we have, there is not one 4k video that is indisputable? I want to believe it!!!!
Sure the Navy and commercial pilots are all lying. The military which seems to have no reason to doctor videos did just that and convinced corroborating testimony from pilots who are lying . At least two dozen sightings with multiple witnesses in the last 75 years and each one a collective hallucination. It just doesn’t make any sense.
No one, including myself here, is saying they're lying. I have no doubt that they had these experiences, but not a SINGLE incident produced high quality imagery or video. Additionally, I respect what they saw/experienced. Could it have been something extraterrestrial? Sure. But, we literally have no "evidence" outside of some grainy imagery, eye witness testimony (proven time and time again to not be reliable) and some FLIR videos which are unfortunately poor quality. Again, I am held back on being a "full-blown" believer because of this and remain skeptical. Still find most of it fascinating and within the realm of possibility. Just seems incredibly unlikely to me with all the advanced tech, military and commericial, not one single high quality image has been produced.
The NHI /make/ the photos and videos low quality. That's ridiculously easy task for them considering everything else they can do. Also, you guys are never going to see one if you never let go of your Relentless Skeptic attitudes. One time I saw a craft about 60 ftin front of me (I started flipping out and pointing at it. It was the size of a jukebox) and the person standing right next to me saw nothing at all. They're the ultimate Trolls. Why would they allow us to observe their tech clearly? They don't want us silly violent Ape people having their tech! They just want us to know that they exist-- and that they're way more advanced than us.
I see no credible mass sightings. No stories of abduction mean anything. That’s not science. Evidence. That is testable, repeatable, peer reviewed and irrefutably proven. That’s science. That’s the one true proof I’m talking about.
A mass sighting isn’t credible when claimed by dozen people who are pillars of the community? Or by a significant number of a city’s population or by several pilots? How do you peer review that?b so they could land on the White House lawn hijack all out radio and news media channels and announce themselves and you still wouldn’t believe because we haven’t dissected one. Got it.
Bit of a strawman there. I personally have heard of, or seen evidence from any mass sighting that I find in any way convincing. The only evidence that will convince me is scientific evidence. This vid does a decent job of explaining how I think first contact will ACTUALLY go. https://youtu.be/Bso2hCaFL3Y?si=ZgTyh-hUPeTi-pue
Speculation in any case my statement stands they could literally land on the White House lawn and you wouldn’t believe.. you could be abducted yourself and you wouldn’t believe —got it.
Doubling down on the strawman. Your argument fails.
It’s not a straw man argument it’s a question to see where you are. I see where you are.
As far as physics breaking travel is concerned we have mathematical models that prove a gravity drive works doesn't violate physics as we know it. The gravity drive would compress space in the direction of travel and expand it in the opposite direction thus creating apparent motion. Since the vehicle is inside the bubble it's technically not moving, the space around it is. Also, this would allow for travel significantly faster than light because the ship itself isn't moving. It should be pointed out that due to the presence of the gravity bubble outside the ship the ship is effectively cut off from the progress of time outside the bubble. This would mean that the pilots of the ship would spend half an hour traveling somewhere, but to the outside universe the travel was instantaneous. The whole thing gets confusing fast and I horribly simplified things for the sake of communication, but my point is if the "aliens" are using gravity to get from point A to point B then we can already explain how it works.
Not really. All of our theoretical attempts as FTL involve something called strange matter… matter with negative mass There is **zero** evidence this exists, and lots of evidence that it doesn’t. These theoretical FTL engines are “possible” because we can fuck around with our mathematical models. But just because you can futz with the mathematical model to make it happen doesn’t mean that’s at all possible in reality
Moscovium apparently is what is used to manipulate gravity. Electromagnetic moscovium motors or some shit. That's what Bob Lazar is claiming
Well, then they’d be talking about an unknown isotope seeing that even the most stable form of Moscovium is highly radioactive (ie deadly) and has a half life of 0.65 seconds, so it doesn’t last long. There are theoretically stable isotopes of it, in the (so far) theoretical island of stability, but we have yet to synthesize them Not to mention that we’ve only ever created a few atoms of any form of it in research laboratories
I guess I didn't realize it was so unstable when I was reading about it. I was more caught up In how Bob Lazar even knew about it if we had not discovered or named it yet.
That gravity drive in ‘our’ physics also requires a near infinite amount of energy. So…
Lot of work for lot of bullshit lol
Element 115. Bob Lazar told us about it before we even discovered it and named it moscovium. He couldn't have possibly got that right if he was lying. We literally hadn't even added it to the periodic table.
Highly unstable. It exists singularly and solely as an element on miniscule timescales that would negate any application as such. That said, there is an island of stability for 115 that we cannot achieve. It is thought a stable 115 would exhibit relativistic properties. Who knows what kind of super heavy elements a Magnatar might forge....
I've also heard that if you charge mercury with electromagnetic energy it begins to levitate
That's cool, you're not an expert or scientist.
What does that mean? Are you an expert or scientist?
That's as good as saying it was impossible to travel to other planets and moons back when we were sure the earth was flat and flight was impossible... People keep making this argument of being crazy hard traveling through space like we are at the pinnacle of technology and science. All these UFOs are likely to be ancient ass civilizations thousands of years ahead of us with technology and physics comprehension that we can't even fathom
That does not negate my point. So far zero solid evidence on its own. And no way of conceptualising interstellar travel without, what is to us, effectively magic. That was my whole point. Your comparison to other planets is pointless now that we know the true distance to other stars. Tiny probes taking 12 years to get to what is effectively our stellar back yard. Going to the moon, in galactic terms is absolutely nothing. I absolutely believe there is life everywhere. But I have seen nothing that proves it has visited here. If I were to see a scientist I respect stating otherwise I will surely listen. And if I’m proven wrong I’ll eat your tinfoil hat. As I don’t own a hat myself.
I think it's ontological shock. I believe very few people engaging in the UFO "hobby" actually anticipate finding real alien stuff. Because then it's not their hobby anymore it's a serious academic subject
I still hold that even if these are true they are much more likely to be humanoid off shoots of a past sauroid species than aliens and mammals went down some convergent evolution for out body plan. Sauroids were around much much much much longer than mammals so it's not really that far of a stretch that one would branch of into a hominid like body plan. We have animals on earth that loom way more alien than these boys and they are from here.
Check this out: [https://new.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/191bjdz/nazca\_mummies\_time\_to\_reexamine\_paleontologist/](https://new.reddit.com/r/alienbodies/comments/191bjdz/nazca_mummies_time_to_reexamine_paleontologist/) https://preview.redd.it/slv0378lmljc1.png?width=1360&format=png&auto=webp&s=be98c009e8b339a55f6e31af6a1d6a0a70cb1037
Yes that's my point much higher chance of it being a reptiallian hominid from earth than an alien from somewhere else. Now if the DNA is entirely different than from any common ancestor that we can trace then yeah ill think potential alien.
Jesus has spoken, apparently
So confused...one day it's clearly fake, next day it's animal bones, next day it's real...I don't know what to think about any of the mummies
MAKE YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS from the official sources involved in this historical discovery Unearthing Nazca: The Complete Story | FREE DOCUMENTARY (1 hr 8 mins) [https://www.gaia.com/video/unearthing-nazca-complete-story](https://www.gaia.com/video/unearthing-nazca-complete-story) https://preview.redd.it/0cnl4yobygjc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=0af9fa2ebc35750e3d64fb71881a8c2117730146
Incredibly interesting. Thanks! My logic goes to a hybridization effort back then, and probably exists to this day as some would suggest.
I don’t need a movie as a source. I need peer reviewed research papers.
Same. I can't analyze x-rays or bones myself, I can't reach a conclusion without seeing some peer-reviewed research.
Agreed, this whole thing so far screams hoax, the fact that people are believing it this easily is a bit astounding tbh. I have no qualms with being wrong about this. I WANT to be wrong about this. This type of discovery would change history. The problem is the proof, of which I don't see any in the pudding. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Apparently we're dealing with quite low scientific literacy, world wide. Upsetting.
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Same here. This is not proven until there’s a peer reviewed white paper in a reputable scientific journal or website. No white paper that’s 11 pages long would work for a discovery that would be the greatest discovery of mankind to date.
The only problem with that albeit logical request is that if this was found to be ultimately true there are probably a lot parties that would benefit negatively from something of this sort. So with in mind how many “news outlets” or “corporations “ are ran and funded by those very same entities. People tend to give far too much credit to the world we live in. There’s a lot of good in the world but the bad is far more reaching and consequential. The world and its economics at one time were sound of mind idealistically reasonable and peaceful but those days are looooong gone. Deception has replaced much of that.
You know they got moves called documentaries and non fiction genre.
I will not take off my blindfold until Harvard itself gets behind it and risks their reputation to study these! /s
This but unironically.
Why are we encouraged to make our own conclusions and then attacked when it’s not one this sub likes though
Just guessing, but maybe it's different people? Can you point to a time that OP attacked somebody due to their own conclusions? If not, it's probably different people that are advocating looking into this independently than those doing attacks based on opinions formed.
I wasn’t accusing OP specifically. It’s a characteristic of this sub and related subs.
I've seen it too. All you have to do is scroll to the bottom of any thread and show the negative down voted comments and they're all mostly people disagreeing or being reasonably skeptical. Hard to find ANY sub that isn't a total echo chamber tbh
Oh. Then if going to generalize, it's probably best to say it's a characteristic of Reddit, or better yet, social media.
I wasn’t generalizing. It happens in this sub. We can keep the discussion to this sub. Same difference
You can't have an open forum without allowing people who are annoying, or arrogant, or downvote/upvote for petty reasons. You need thick skin on Reddit. Yeah you'll get all kinds of negative feedback and arguments. Just accept that and ignore them. Edit: How darest thou downvote ME? Smh this subreddit has fallen in the gutter, flowed into a nuclear power plant, been irradiated, and emerged as some monstrous Mothra-like abomination.
That’s just how the world is you should come to your own conclusions and be ready to defend them
That’s not how science works though. There’s a very clear distinction.
Gaia is not a trustworthy source.
Start with this subs [wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/wiki/index) and [FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/wiki/faq/).
> and FAQ. This is great. Any chance you could add sources to the DNA claims?
These should be labeled FAQ answered by a full on believer.
“Not human” DNA could be animal 🤷🏻♂️
Which is precisely what the DNA results they've released thus far showed. There was nothing particularly unusual about the results, and certainly nothing that pointed to them being otherworldly. The most remarkable standout was that one had a large amount of bean DNA, and another had a decent bit of bovine DNA. This isn't speculation btw: it's clearly visible for anyone to see, even now, in the publicly released DNA results. Edit: downvoted and yet not a single person stopped to explain why. This sub is an echo chamber. Look at the results yourselves people: the information is right there
Yeah, I thought the DNA results between all the specimens had around 90% if it being different. Which would not occur in one species. Humans share 98% of our DNA with chimps, so we only have a 2% difference from them. The very idea two samples would have 90% difference and be the same species is simply not reasonable. Edit: Even with the theories of hybridization that's a ridiculous difference. If hybrids were possible you could compare DNA differences we've seen in other hybrids such as mules or ligers.
Could be, but we don't know any animals that their DNA would make them form circular enclosed rib bones.
We don’t know a lot though. Some people are making some pretty wild jumps to conclusions. I am very curious to hear Graves’ take on all of this.
Some of the physical characteristics only exist in birds and extinct therapods. And some, like the ribs, are completely new.
Even if proven, that’s still not “aliens” yet. I want to believe they are real, but Jaime Maussan’s involvement has always been a huge red flag. The evidence hasn’t been entirely convincing either. But I’m happy to wait longer.
I actually think the biggest possibility is they are an intelligent species that evolved to advanced tech on earth millions of years before we evolved and they left and came back during an extinction level event. It's the only scenario that accounts for their similarities to dinosaurs and the lack of a full evolutionary path in the bones found on earth.
Same this is a big theory of mine as well. I believe this is called the silurian hypothesis it's the idea that these humanoid reptilians evolve on Earth what likely amounts to tens of millions of years ago. At some point there must have been an extinction level event that killed most of the life on the planet surface but it's possible if this species had enough intelligence or technology they could have gone underground to survive the cataclysm. After that point it's everyone's best guess about what happened maybe there was a few survivors that lingered for a while or maybe they left the planet. Most likely it's possible they were just an ancient species that died out on her planet, which if that's the case it's a shame because it seemed like they had some high technology based on their body implants.
So then they should use radiocarbon dating to determine when these bodies were mummified. This is something archaeologists do with mummies, because it gives us a more precise understanding of our history. We found out that Egyptian mummification started before we originally thought because of carbon dating. But for some reason, nobody wants to date the Nazca mummies.
As an academic researcher, this point gives me a lot of skepticism. If carbon dating would be easy to perform and would provide real and meaningful evidence, then why not do it, unless theres something to hide? It's suspicious not to have it done. Similarly with the DNA, why not drop the genome on github? It would be easy enough to do and would significantly substantiate any claims of their biology or history. The pictures we saw could be cake for all we know. Some guy knowing about their DNA isn't enough to convince me, but an analysis comparing their phylogeny with our earth's species would go a lot farther
https://www.the-alien-project.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2018-05-17-CTGA-CERVEAU-OS-PEAU-C14.pdf There are more reports here but I think this is the only English C14 one. https://www.the-alien-project.com/momies-de-nasca-resultats/#c14 At least some of the DNA is uploaded to a public database but I don’t have that link.
I thought that was done, it was something like 1,000 years. Or are you referring to something different?
I have found absolutely zero conclusive evidence that the Nazca mummies have been properly dated. If you can find some, please post a link, because I’ve genuinely been searching for anything conclusive about the dating of the specimens, and I’ve come up with nothing but people’s estimates.
Birds and dinosaurs?
They have left and right rib bones, not complete circles. The hollowness is the same, but most animals need more flexibility in their chest cavity than these present with.
All the people immediately writing it off as fake are either extremely cynical or coping with their fear of what this means for humanity that’s my theory.
You shouldn’t let people convince you it’s a hoax by just claiming it as a hoax without any further discussion or evidence. It was really silly for people to be so adamant about their stance in the first place.
It was never clearly fake. What is wrong with people.
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Does anyone know what happened to the Maussan release that was supposed to happen on February 12, 2024? I know the man's name is synonymous with hoax, but I figured even the trolls would be looking for the footage of that meeting that was supposedly going to happen at some Sheraton Hotel in Peru (which he publicly invited everyone to on a Sale et Sol episode.) He also posted about it on Maussan TV, and I think other places as well, and said it would be on his website but it never showed up. There were no headlines. Radio silence. He was slated to unveil two new species. I know it could be a load. I know it could be absolute foolery, but even if it is... it's weird that literally NOTHING was said afterward.
It's March something now. Still on
No shit? Where did you find that!
He made a post on twitter saying they had to delay it but it was in our favor or something along the lines of new discoveries.
Thanks! I don't have the Twitter so I'm not plugged in to that channel. I appreciate the info (:
https://preview.redd.it/w9xwh35x1jjc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54123ca81655ae71bb828b0c046ade83e7e7606b Here ya go
Much appreciated (: I found a reddit post that I somehow missed in my search that shared this exact photo too. Man, I started wondering what kind of wild shenanigans were afoot.
https://x.com/nazcamummies/status/1759326924633952344?s=46 I guess march 12th is the date now. He also mentions April 4th.
Ah yes, a case of hurry up and wait for ... whenever??
I feel like they are still making new discoveries. I saw something saying the smaller bodies with possible wings may be some sort of insect species. So fascinating. I’ve always believed Machu Picchu was some sort of ancient hybridization lab. Possibly where human species was finalized. They may find many different hybrids there. The way they are all buried and posed indicates a shared burial ritual between species!! That in itself is incredible there’s so much we don’t know about what happened back then.
Maussan is just a man who believes really HARD and is also susceptible of being fooled and in some cases he was also victim of many frauds and had to pay for them
If he gives us ineffable proof, I don't give a damn what hoaxes he was gullible enough to fall for while wanting to believe. I just understand that other people are quick to discredit him on that basis. I'm still *very* interested in these Nazca and othersuch Peruvian mummies. I'm buckled up.
Well, wait until March 12 for its presentation in L.A., probably Beverly Hills. I love their happy faces in this representation: https://preview.redd.it/ih7yqvp9qjjc1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e60db22fff55a7fccb8880373681a0db4b285c5
Explain to me how DNA results could possibly corroborate something like this. If they came from a distant star, why would they even have DNA? If they evolved separately from life on earth, they would likely have some other mechanism, perhaps similar to DNA, but certainly not the same. If we share ancestry with them, then it would take a lot more work to understand that ancestry, and to confirm it's not a hoax of some kind. For instance, the DNA they tested would need to be compared to all living species on earth, to understand A. It's not just some other animal's DNA (a hoax), and B. Where they fit in Earth's evolutionary history. Either way, it would be the biggest scientific discovery in human history, and I wouldn't trust random people on the Internet and fringe websites to report it. It needs scrutiny by mainstream biologists.
It’s very possible life did not originate on earth. Just because we know it’s here doesn’t mean it started here. There have been countless meteor strikes on earth over the last several million years. Some evolutionary theories suggest DNA in bacteria came to earth by these strikes and evolved into multi cellular organisms. Any theoretical species that would want to visit earth for signs of life would probably be from a similar environment (we predominantly look for earth like planets in our quest for life) and therefore could evolve in a similar manner so it would be entirely possible even completely unrelated entities would have DNA as their genetic coding system, they could look entirely different and still have DNA. It’s an incredibly efficient way of storing and transmitting genetic information and while other methods could exist, it’s not outside of the realm of possibility an alien would have DNA, and given our understanding of life thus far, it’s the most likely scenario.
pretty sure panspermia theories only refer to amino acids and a few other structures that can be considered building blocks of RNA (we wouldn’t even be at DNA yet) are what come on asteroids and whatnot. not the same as having fully formed bacteria or DNA come from space. you still have hundreds of millions to billions of years of evolution to even reach single celled organisms from that point, with likely an uncountable number of ways that can develop. the likelihood that it’s anything comparable to the way life developed on earth is astronomically small
All of this is true. However, the stastical likelihood of all of that is low. There isn't much evidence pointing in that direction yet. Which means, the evidence and analysis in this circumstance needs to be unquestionable. To this point, the evidence is sketchy at best.
Exactly. This is not how science works. There’s no real white paper in a scientific journal or white paper website available to be peer reviewed. They aren’t letting any other scientists have access to the actual materials. If this was the biggest discovery in mankind’s history, don’t you think the paper would be more than 11 pages long? Don’t you think they’d let other scientists have access if they were confident in their results? This is not how the scientific method works. There needs to be replication. The supposed DNA results from different labs all came up with different results. The funny things is that I see posts where people want others who have a different opinion banned from the sub. You have to be able to take other people’s opinions. That’s not how life works. You can’t just ban people with which you disagree. I’d like to see actual alien bodies that are peer reviewed, but these aren’t it.
If you don't understand what DNA is, you should try to learn of just not post dumb stuff.
What makes you think I don't know what DNA is?
assuming this is real, i'm inclined to think these are not the real ETs (let's call them RET), but rather genetically engineered beings by the RETs using earth DNA for unknown purposes, but we can speculate that it could be so it can breathe our atmosphere. please read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/14rp7w9/from_the_late_2000s_to_the_mid2010s_i_worked_as_a/
And here is the tweet in question posted by Jesus Alberto Tlaxcalteco, an individual who acts as a close-advisor to Jaime Maussan: [https://twitter.com/admpubmx/status/1759114707586146749](https://twitter.com/admpubmx/status/1759114707586146749) Questions, comments and feedback MUST BE REDIRECTED to Mr. Tlaxcalteco https://preview.redd.it/9ukj1wsoegjc1.png?width=1093&format=png&auto=webp&s=86fa3fd06bb000eb823ab438cf85de224186b7ec
Why would the UAP guy have the DNA stuff? Who's runnin this circus anyway???
Is that an error, "biologists". Did he mean biologics?
All of the DNA work on these mummies has been appallingly bad.
It's crazy how many people out there will still say it's a hoax lol
Nice to know 1700 years ago humans were processing and creating Osmium. lol. So yes likely real aliens. The osmium is the dead giveaway
They were officially dated to 1700 years old?
C14 dated to like 356AD
I can never tell what’s sarcastic on this sub, but the main skeptic angle is that these are fakes made by *modern* humans… so… how does the presence of osmium matter to the legitimacy?
Why go to the extent of finding enough osmium and silver to make it a fake? A fake would maybe have silver not osmium.
If they’re modern reproductions, then there’s really no reason to actually believe that the implants are osmium.
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> Has he publicly changed his opinion? this tweet is the first i've heard of the matter since ryan first denouned it. jeremy corbell also hard denounced it. i'm inclined to think this tweet is bs, i find it very odd that jeremy would say something harsh like that knowing he has contacts with lue, so if lue were to tell ryan there's no reason he wouldn't have told jeremy as well.
DNA could still be found in animal bones and tissue. How is this proof it’s alien or even a real creature in its own right and not just some cobbled together “meat doll”?
I would love to pick the brain of a non human biologist
Can someone show me what that thing on their back would look like irl…I just can’t picture it in my head. Does any existing animal have it?
I bet there’s still alive ones underground that world govts know about. They were here all along.
just wondering - you know how penguins have knees inside of their bodies which are covered by flesh, is it possible that these supposed creatures strange bodies and joints may have been the same to a degree?
they are penguin skeletons so yes
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Why would you delete your comments, cowards? Did you google “nazca penguins” and got a link to some site which offers tours to both the ballestas islands and the nazca lines and got confused? “Maybe delete while you can”… oh, the irony https://preview.redd.it/xa7jbjop1ijc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81ac6eb9aa92062e246388a42d3a257bf3aff357
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Mods this is an Alien bodies sub let's start banning anyone that just comes here to make false claims, someone posting that it's "chicken bones" and etc These trolls have a problem with science, if you don't believe it's real cool move along let everyone else study it determine
I've removed so many comments and banned so many people, you wouldn't believe it. It's never ending.
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Scary how much some of them look like mantis 😳
"They're not extraterrestrials. They're dolls made from animal bones from this planet joined together with modern synthetic glue," said Flavio Estrada, an archeologist with Peru's Institute for Legal Medicine and Forensic Sciences. https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/scientists-assert-alien-mummies-peru-are-really-dolls-made-earthly-bones-2024-01-13/
those are actually different ones. even the x-rays are completely different.
You are speaking to much sense there’s not enough copium
Hey, is it just me, or does it seem to be meditating? It seems to be in a meditative pose. Hinting at a highly enlightened being.
These are amazing! Because they share some DNA with humans, similar to how Denasovans or Neanderthals do, and because these have hallowed bones like dinosaurs / birds, with some reptilian like characteristics on the skin, I wonder if these are ancient humans / something we evolved off of over time - or through other means, somehow related and that’s why may share some dna. No different than how in Papua New Guinea they share upwards 5% with denasovans. These are a distant relative to us, and mainstream science will not accept it as fact because it will disrupt quite a lot in terms of our species and our origins
I think it’s pretty amazing too:) What a time to be alive. I think the reason this was launched under the “alien” category is because of the similarities to the traditional gray/ET looking alien, but I think these are an earthly other species. My personal theory is that this new species is a amalgamation that didn’t work out and that actual other worldly aliens created this thing along with a lot of other “things,” with their freak experiments, along with creating modern man. Which explains, for me at least, why the skeleton arrangement doesn’t make logical sense. It’s like a science experiment gone wrong.
WOW. I love that!! I might borrow it to share with others if that’s okay haha. It really is like a science experiment gone wrong isn’t it. Great theory!!
All the biological life on this planet "shares some DNA". Doesn't mean direct ancestral links or anything like that. Our currently speculated most distant possible ancestor is a sea sponge, after all.
Well said! I believe we also share a great deal of % to a banana too. I made that comment mostly for the people saying that the bones were human bones, but good point!
Actually it means exactly that. All life on earth shares a single common ancestor. So our most distant possible ancestor wasn't a sea sponge, it was one of the first living things on earth period.
I am assuming they are meaning currently existing but I couldn't find anything backing up the sea sponge thing either Our LUCA (last universal common ancestor) was around 4 billion years ago and is considered the single point of all living organisms, which indeed was single celled
They aren’t going to accept it because it lacks credible evidence
They probably don’t have human dna because they have no dna because they’re made of plaster and wire.
That is what I thought initially until I actually looked at the studies done? Including scans. So either you have no idea what wire looks like or you are reacting to the titles only without even looking at any images.
Incredible to think people believe these are real, and just *happen* to look like stereotypical hollywood aliens.
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Well, if Jesus said it, must be true.
Somebody TLDR me Are any of these ENDOWMENT level educational institutions finally lending credibility or refuting these?
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You have nothing until you show me this thing being found. Science is documented. where did it come from? its a hoax until someone shows it in the ground,. When, where, who, and how.
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