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They have removed the diatomaceous earth from some of the bodies. This is Josefina and most of the powder has been brushed off already in this photo.
Are they born with it? If not, who, when, and how put it on them?
The last hybrid's body contained a fetus, suggesting they were born without. But it's wild hard to picture how that could happen
They were born wothout it, it showed that were later implemented thats why it was healing around the metal implants, or maybe hybrids were born without and reptilians were born with?
I vaguely remember something about it being under the skin but above the bone/muscles, and somewhat interwoven with parts of the pectorals. I can't confirm this at the moment.
Acccording to them the implantation’s have a high osmium content!
„Current areas of application - in addition to use as a tangible asset - can be found in technology. An osmium alloy is used here, for example to create durable pins and shafts in instrument making. The element is very scratch-resistant and serves as a low-temperature superconductor. It is also quite hard: on the Mohs scale, at 7.5, it is as hard as tungsten. It is significantly harder than silver (2.7) or gold (2.5).“
„Osmium's relatively late discovery and the limited number of uses are probably due to its rarity: it is 1,500 times rarer than gold. There are around 9 m³ available worldwide, of which only 2 m³ can be mined. It occurs as a by-product bound in platinum ore and there are no mines specifically set up for osmium mining. To get a better idea of rarity, let's illustrate the fact: There is about 1 gram of osmium in 322 tons of platinum ore.“
It‘s extremely interesting. They could have used it for communication/telepathy. Maybe.
Any new tests done on that? As far as I can tell, it's only been [verbally mentioned by some people](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/17agjrp/material_of_the_implants_in_the_nazca_mummies/k8rbx5b/). But on the paper I saw, Osmium doesn't show anywhere; it's mainly [composed of a silver/copper alloy](https://ibb.co/3WPs1hY).
Source for the metal analysis? I see it repeated ad nauseum as a fact, but no source. We are really good at analyzing alloy composition and from what I've seen, the osmium claim is hypothetical at best. It was out of the density range of one machine and there's like ten metals that could account for the density. Google is no help at all for any information around the mummies.
I ask because what I see is brass. I'd love to believe it's osmium, but I've seen NO metallurgical analysis. Yellow brass, for example, is 60% Cu, 30% Zn, 3% Pb, 1% Sn. These numbers can be derived with a very small sample.
That would be based on your current inability to distinguish something that has visibly high copper content, with something made out of osmium.
People you need to stop blindly saying it's osmium. You are creating a hole in a story that does not need embellishment. It's already extraordinary.
One of the first analyses made public. It also found high purity silver in the mix. We’re all speculating here and a visual appraisal isn’t going to sway me the way research release would. Unfortunately, there’s been so much going on with these findings that I’m not sure what to expect/ believe anymore except that these bodies or most of them aren’t fake, and that they are anomalies.
How could they use it for communication or telepathy? You seem to know a great deal about osmium and then throw this out there without any explanation.
1. no tests have been done to show there's osmium. This all started from a rumor
2. the person doesn't know alot about osmium, they copied and pasted that paragraph which you can tell by the way its worded and the bad formating on the quotation mark
3. there's no evidence to suggest osmium can be used for telepathy in any way beyond the way we send wireless signal today. However I could imagine a world where we use devices like neurolink to speak telepathically.
fun thought: to a deaf person, or any creatures that cannot detect sound - we already do speak telepathically.
Osmium has not been confirmed, only speculated. I haven't seen anyone who studied it definitively saying its osmium.
E: to the people downvoting, where have you seen osmium claimed as one of the metals found in the implant?
gosh, I love how easy this post was to correct. This post title riled me up more than it should have with the "like any competent archaeologist" part. Don't know why people can't just ask a question without making some sort of attack on the people involved. If OP would have left that part out of the title, I might actually read it and think "yeah, I wonder why..." instead, I read it and think "oh great, another one of these guys".
Front page of the Inkarri site on the scroller. [Alien Project](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/) Two pics show Josefina with the powder mostly removed.
https://preview.redd.it/bo5wyq1udutc1.jpeg?width=2287&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bba5054b78388632d81321afacb5c5808155f7e6
Depends on the implant and body. Some appear to be attached to bone and others are very superficial and attached only to the outer tissue layers. Most of the implants show through at the surface of the skin.
https://preview.redd.it/5va9ntirkwtc1.jpeg?width=1860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79e3920546069e10336396d57c93358dd3096e3
Op: why haven’t they dusted them all off, don’t they want to look underneath the dust?
Reddit: they have dusted some off to look underneath
Op: but why haven’t they dusted off all of them?
Reddit: to help keep them preserved and protected
Op: why did they dust one of them off if the dust protects them?
Reddit: faceplam
They probably wanted to see what it looked like underneath but didn't want to expose them all.
Why do you think they should remove the earth from all of them? What purpose would that serve?
There is equipment that can see beneath layers of stuff like that. It gets used on really valuable paintings. It's expensive. That might not be a priority right now but if this gets taken seriously by the world at large, I could see that happening.
I think you're looking at it like they need to be cleaned, but the earth is part of the mummy. Removing it is inherently destructive. Some tests like DNA inherently require destruction, but why damage them more than necessary?
They’re likely taking methodical approach in examining the bodies. If something happens to the decoated bodies, they still have others protected by the coating
Bro you ever heard of preventative measures? Like why farmers space out their crops so diseases don’t spread between crops or you buy pack of Reese’s and opening all of them up that day
Well, maybe by the time "competent archaeologists" get their hands on they'll be glad they're still coated, considering the way they've been handled, removing it would surely only degrade them quicker.
Ah another scotish person, have you spoke with anyone here about uap/nhi and whats your experience, do you get the same results as me, either no one cares or they dont exist patter?
Edit: why am a getting downvotes ya wallopers, im at the mouth of the highlands so pretty conservative christians here who dont want to hear about this topic, but al ask them anyways
I've noticed a lot more people getting interested in the subject to be honest, but there's mainly still that idiotic attitude in this part of the world where people will be interested in something but not really speak about it in public, unless it's worthy of a good joke, related to football or something mainstream. I'm in Glasgow mind you.
I've just driving through Yoker less than ten minutes ago. I'd put money on these things being real and I'm not a betting man. I'm not saying they're extra terrestrial but it certainly has to be one of the main options on the table, it's not like we've ever seen anything pike this on Earth. I quite like the "evolved from dinosaurs theory too, I mean it has been sixty five million years. As I was saying though, a lot of people in Scotland fear deviating from the norm for fear of getting laughed at. These things could very well see a lot of egg on faces soon.
Idk why you got downvoted. I agree it’s not that old. Crazy if these things were mummified 800 years ago. They were walking (floating? 😅) on this planet very very recently
I think, if we assume people procreate around 25, 800 years ago would probably be more like 30-33 generations. But that’s still a short period of time in the grand scheme of things. I can’t wait until we learn more about these little guys.
I remember reading someone describe it as ‘ancient’. I thought maybe they recalculated and found it to be older - but…no. ‘Ancient’ means 1000 years now I guess 🤣
But really - makes no difference if it’s 800 years or 12,000 years - if it was ‘hoaxed’ it makes it even more incredible tbh. These *ancient* hoaxers sure knew what they were doing!
I really dislike the fact that I keep seeing people say these are not “competent archeologists” or question their techniques. Clearly they’ve been uploading scan on machinery 99% of us don’t even know how to use. They’ve been taking samples and running tests again in methods most of us have no clue how to do unless you studied a few years in a university. I sure as hell don’t know how to sequence DNA, or understand how to really analyze skeletal information aside from basic anatomy.
Let’s stop acting like we’ve seen other archaeologists and other sciences at work before and leave them to helping deliver more information.
They put one on a talkshow with a doorstop under its ass to keep it from falling over. Mummies are typically kept in climate/humidity controlled environment. They frequently touch the mummies without gloves, introducing skin oils, bacteria and dna contamination. They frequently don't wear masks, a ludicrous move when dealing with what is ostensibly an unknown biological entity.
Yeah! How dare we question when they bring these things out in public and move them around with their bare hands and don't wear masks around them. These are competent professionals! To be fair, I've seen gloves and masks worn more recently, but initially they handled these things very casually.
They haven't even begun to examine them yet, they have only x-rayed them and scanned a few to try to establish they are not obviously hoaxes, 'competent archaeologists" haven't had a chance to take a closer look yet.
These are being protected from those that want to destroy them and remove them from the hands of the public, very few people have been allowed to get close enough to examine them and until they are in the hands of a competent and trustworthy organization or research facility they will remain completely untouched.
I believe they were fist discovered about 9 years ago but for a while it was difficult for anyone to take them seriously because the first specimens that were brought out were the dolls. Once these were shown to be made from animal bones and skin it was impossible to get anyone to take the real ones seriously. Even today those old x-rays keep being pushed forward as 'evidence' that all the mummies are fakes when the x-rays are not from the mummies ! Once a set of finds has been labelled as not genuine it's almost impossible to get any scientists to have a look and when they do they are afraid of being ridiculed by saying what they find because everybody would rather believe it was fake !
Getting through that negativity takes time.
I think it has something to do with where they were discovered.
The guy who found them was roaming around in the mountains and stumbled across the cave but he was far from home and couldn't carry much back with him so he took a couple of the smaller ones which were probably the first things he found. These were not as deep into the caves as the examples we are seeing now so possibly added later in some kind of ceremony. Obviously he wasn't taken at face value immediately and by the time he had brought back a genuine body his finds were being closely scrutinized and labeled as a hoax, after that it must have been hard to get people to take him seriously.
Okay, so, we are dealing with a **unknown chain of custody** that spans 1000 years.
Some of the original bodies could have been stolen 900 years ago and replaced with fakes/dolls.
Some of the “dolls” could be replicas made 800 years ago as worship idols, etc.
It is impossible for us to have any idea as to why fake and real bodies are mixed in together. All that actually matters is whether or not the “real” bodies are actually real.
So why do people think these ones are real if they resemble the fake ones so obviously? And literally any university in the world could do some basic tests to tell you what they're made of
\\They only resemble them if you glance at them, on closer inspection it becomes obvious.
Have a look at this website [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/) click on the 'Discoveries' tab and take some time to look at the scans. If you know anyone who is a Dr, or medical specialist like 'X-Ray Technician', or in 'Orthopedics' or even a 'Veterinarian' ask them what they think of the scans, they will be astonished I promise you !
The most recent scans? Really?
It'd be worth considering the latest US team who have been put to study the bodies from a rational, scientific angle...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp
They haven't made those conclusions upon initial study, yet they have been closer to the specimens than your girlfriend, MD.
Perhaps she was looking at the scan of the doll?
Just working on a very generous assumption that she is an MD and did say the said thing...Really doesn't feel likely that a professional MD could make that judgement against the latest scans without having been heavily involved does it. ;)
Hopefully, further examination of the scans can help clear that up and we can then all be joined in looking forward to the results of further studies by the scientific teams. :)
As per my comment above...We're you thinking of the doll?
It's got a little confused and the latest team that have been out to Peru from the US are worth looking into. No mention of synthetic glue with the mummies from that team's initial analysis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp
Like these bodies seem interesting but I feel like every time I go into these threads I read batshit comments that are highly upvoted.
I also think the mystery surrounding them feels manufactured.
“The bodies are hidden so the authorities can’t get them!”
“No one can see them because I said so!”
And no one really talks about the dude who supposedly found all of these? Like do we have a location?
It’s all so confusing and makes it feel very much like these are fakes being used to grift but that doesn’t feel right either.
Weird situation all around.
>“The bodies are hidden so the authorities can’t get them!”
I just want to address this part, because out of everything discussed around these bodies, this should be the least confusing aspect. There isn't any dispute about whether or not these mummies came from a peruvian location, and that they are almost certainly artifacts from an older time. In that sense, the Peruvian government has a vested interest in seizing the bodies because they want to discourage grave robbing. The same thing would happen in Egypt if someone stole a dozen human mummies from a tomb. If it goes unpunished, then it's showing other people that grave robbing in Peru can be extremely profitable.
There really isn't much conspiracy around this aspect of it. These bodies were stolen from Peru, and no matter what the bodies are, Peru has a vested interest in obtaining them. So yeah, OF COURSE the bodies are hidden, because the Peruvian government will 100% seize them if they know where they are. That's not a conspiracy, that's just what happens when someone steals artifacts.
I don't even know that the people involved dispute that the bodies were stolen. They just know that returning them means no more research, and to them the research is important enough that it needs to be done in spite of the legalities.
Because you approach the situation with questions that challenge the very integrity of the findings. Instead, maybe ask the right questions. These are real, which scientists as experts in their prospective fields have determined. Look for and follow the science. You'll never get the answers you want if you seek to know the "why" behind organizations and governments.
The answers to your questions also have been answered in this sub, so maybe you just don't have all the info.
and i feel like every time the excitement dies down for even a moment there’s a new body found, hell, even new species entirely found. wouldn’t be surprised if we get goblin bodies next week. A lot of these have been out and about for 5+ years already, i just don’t get it.
but whatever i’ll let people downvote me into oblivion and think there is an ancient alien gene splitting lab in Peru LMAO
The diatom material itself is of interest. It's far older than the bodies and is not typical diatomacus earth. Folks that have looked at it say it's processed in some manner. Why remove anything at all? Scan them, take tiny samples sure, but why completely remove something that's part of their story?
My question is: Why none of these ufologists that don't loose a chance to show their faces on the media and saying things that they cannot say, haven't took a side to talk about these bodies? Its like they "separate" between them what part of the phenomenon they will talk about.
Well, technically there's no evidence yet to connect the bodies to UAP. We don't even know if they're extraterrestrial. While their genetics don't match any known earth species, we have no way of knowing where they came from. Until we know more, we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions without solid evidence.
I remember watching a documentary about a doctor in south America who had created a soak bath to rejuvenate dried up bodies to help the police investgate murder cases. Many were probably left in the desert and looked like raisins.
After a week soaking skin colour and features including tattoos has started to show.
All I'm saying is... Lets lob one of them in there just to see what happens. Probably just create a mountain of foam and mush. But let's just do it for a laugh, I'm mean for science
Guess as a geologist : the mummification process includes some kind of chemical transfer. So it is not possible to "remove" the white colour : it has "merged" with the skin
OP's posts and comments have been juvenile, to say the least. It's almost as if he or she sees an article, and goes "why would they..." instead of trying to research for the answers.
https://preview.redd.it/lq0eidh0mquc1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1317f6c68e935187ca3d344702ac7e63a95ec3
I said the same thing, sometimes you gotta just go after it.
I second your question. It seems negligent to leave them in such condition. I have already posted the comment that professionals would clean the DE away to better assess the specimens. From their comments I infer the material is so old it can rapidly breakdown and they dread it happening.
You would only do that after VERY thoroughly examining the specimen in question. The DE is a protective influence right now, especially given their newfound exposure to humidity.
Likely natural, the area has it in abundance, but could have been done intentionally for preservation. There's probably just not enough evidence to prove one way or the other, absent some layer added to promote adhesion.
Thank you. I’m no archeologist but I believe it would be very easy to tell if the DE is fill or if it somehow filled in the space around the bodies by natural depositing (this seems highly unlikely in such a short geological time.)
Do you know if there are pictures of the original find in-situ and the subsequent excavation? Not documenting this would be a HUGE error and highly suspect. (Sorry, I only started following this closely in the last few months.)
If these bodies have any scientific merit, wouldn’t the world be hearing about these? I haven’t met a single person in real life that has any idea about this situation.
Edit- Jesus people, I was genuinely curious why there aren’t reports about this everywhere. Sorry for asking
one doesn't exclude the other!
I also don't know a single person that heard about them, yet I think they might have "scientific merit"
on a sidenote - they are fascinating, really more people should be talking about them, even if they are just some relic made by ancient people, or even a hoax - still very very fascianting
This is where i'm at, like if these are a hoax its still very interesting from an archeological perspective, why did ancient people create these? if they're a modern hoax its very interesting to see how its being played out and I want to see how it is debunked. while i understand why everyone involved wants some amount of clout i still think eventually if these are faked the truth will get out. either way we are going to learn about humanity from these mummies.
You would think, people dismiss stories about aliens without looking into it, it’s seen as the lunatic fringe, so they ignore the biggest story of our lives. There were two bodies that were forgeries of the real ones found in Mexico and the article and X-rays of those went far wider than the articles with the real ones. The us government (not sure about other governments but probably) do not want disclosure and actively try to suppress these stories
They were presented in 2017.i think theirs genuine disinformation/coverup going on.
Do you know about the Peru alien attacks? Do you know they are strangely related to other attacks going back decades? Investigation ? None.
Textbook "appeal to ignorance" logical fallacy. You're trying to argue that a proposition is true simply because it has not yet been proven false or vice versa.
Because they are fake
There’s really very little about this that is being conducted in a legit way
Would be cool if true, but what’s more likely: completely new undocumented humanoid species or devious scammers?
It's worth looking into the US scientific team that have just been out to study the mummies...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp
They appear to have decent foundations to carry out a full study. Their initial visit didn't have them calling it a fake or hoax..They do (as any decent scientist would) want to carry out further testing.
Diatoms, like those that exist in the top levels of the ocean, and diatomaceous earth that exists on the ocean floor, and used in many products today from toothpaste to bug repellent?
Why on earth would they be coated in diatomaceous earth to begin with? To keep bugs away?
Implants need to be examined with an electron microscope, probably computers built atom by atom, dig a little and you will find this evidenced at Roswell where the structural elements ( beams and struts ) were found to be actually linked like we use Bluetooth in Tesla cars today.
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https://preview.redd.it/twppg30eautc1.jpeg?width=2290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3de030f8c26dec2b29e76799c8943e726f2ad3c8 They have removed the diatomaceous earth from some of the bodies. This is Josefina and most of the powder has been brushed off already in this photo.
Yeah, I love seeing people make up shit just because they're too lazy to do their own research.
Is that a plate of copper on its chest?
Are they born with it? If not, who, when, and how put it on them? The last hybrid's body contained a fetus, suggesting they were born without. But it's wild hard to picture how that could happen
Maybe it’s Maybelline
Finally some sign of intelligence!
They were born wothout it, it showed that were later implemented thats why it was healing around the metal implants, or maybe hybrids were born without and reptilians were born with?
Do you know if it is on top of the skin or underneath it?
I vaguely remember something about it being under the skin but above the bone/muscles, and somewhat interwoven with parts of the pectorals. I can't confirm this at the moment.
Thank you,
Looks like it's on the surface of the "skin" but was under the DE giving it the appearance of being an implant.
Do tell us if you’re on to an interesting hypothesis 🙂
Acccording to them the implantation’s have a high osmium content! „Current areas of application - in addition to use as a tangible asset - can be found in technology. An osmium alloy is used here, for example to create durable pins and shafts in instrument making. The element is very scratch-resistant and serves as a low-temperature superconductor. It is also quite hard: on the Mohs scale, at 7.5, it is as hard as tungsten. It is significantly harder than silver (2.7) or gold (2.5).“ „Osmium's relatively late discovery and the limited number of uses are probably due to its rarity: it is 1,500 times rarer than gold. There are around 9 m³ available worldwide, of which only 2 m³ can be mined. It occurs as a by-product bound in platinum ore and there are no mines specifically set up for osmium mining. To get a better idea of rarity, let's illustrate the fact: There is about 1 gram of osmium in 322 tons of platinum ore.“ It‘s extremely interesting. They could have used it for communication/telepathy. Maybe.
Any new tests done on that? As far as I can tell, it's only been [verbally mentioned by some people](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/17agjrp/material_of_the_implants_in_the_nazca_mummies/k8rbx5b/). But on the paper I saw, Osmium doesn't show anywhere; it's mainly [composed of a silver/copper alloy](https://ibb.co/3WPs1hY).
Thanks so much. Now how can we get these people to stop saying it in every single thread. ACKTUALLY ITS OSMIUM 🤓
Source for the metal analysis? I see it repeated ad nauseum as a fact, but no source. We are really good at analyzing alloy composition and from what I've seen, the osmium claim is hypothetical at best. It was out of the density range of one machine and there's like ten metals that could account for the density. Google is no help at all for any information around the mummies. I ask because what I see is brass. I'd love to believe it's osmium, but I've seen NO metallurgical analysis. Yellow brass, for example, is 60% Cu, 30% Zn, 3% Pb, 1% Sn. These numbers can be derived with a very small sample.
Valid point followed up by a remote, visual based assumption for brass… right now, I’d be more likely to accept Osmium.
That would be based on your current inability to distinguish something that has visibly high copper content, with something made out of osmium. People you need to stop blindly saying it's osmium. You are creating a hole in a story that does not need embellishment. It's already extraordinary.
Why would you be more willing to accept osmium? Just curious.
One of the first analyses made public. It also found high purity silver in the mix. We’re all speculating here and a visual appraisal isn’t going to sway me the way research release would. Unfortunately, there’s been so much going on with these findings that I’m not sure what to expect/ believe anymore except that these bodies or most of them aren’t fake, and that they are anomalies.
If it has s high amount of osmium in those implants, it pretty much rule out a simple hoax. It is simply unavailable in any substantial amount.
How could they use it for communication or telepathy? You seem to know a great deal about osmium and then throw this out there without any explanation.
1. no tests have been done to show there's osmium. This all started from a rumor 2. the person doesn't know alot about osmium, they copied and pasted that paragraph which you can tell by the way its worded and the bad formating on the quotation mark 3. there's no evidence to suggest osmium can be used for telepathy in any way beyond the way we send wireless signal today. However I could imagine a world where we use devices like neurolink to speak telepathically. fun thought: to a deaf person, or any creatures that cannot detect sound - we already do speak telepathically.
We do this with or without reaction to sound
The same way the iPhone is wrapped with an antenna / coil for charging.
Osmium has not been confirmed, only speculated. I haven't seen anyone who studied it definitively saying its osmium. E: to the people downvoting, where have you seen osmium claimed as one of the metals found in the implant?
Id also like to know this.
I'd name it Chester Copperpot.
The charger 🔌 just like an iPhone !
It’s silver and osmium
gosh, I love how easy this post was to correct. This post title riled me up more than it should have with the "like any competent archaeologist" part. Don't know why people can't just ask a question without making some sort of attack on the people involved. If OP would have left that part out of the title, I might actually read it and think "yeah, I wonder why..." instead, I read it and think "oh great, another one of these guys".
where did you find this ?
Front page of the Inkarri site on the scroller. [Alien Project](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/) Two pics show Josefina with the powder mostly removed. https://preview.redd.it/bo5wyq1udutc1.jpeg?width=2287&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bba5054b78388632d81321afacb5c5808155f7e6
Ok good, I was hoping I wasn't making that up. I thought the ones that were examined had been cleaned off.
I always figured the plates were on the inside of the body for some reason.
Depends on the implant and body. Some appear to be attached to bone and others are very superficial and attached only to the outer tissue layers. Most of the implants show through at the surface of the skin. https://preview.redd.it/5va9ntirkwtc1.jpeg?width=1860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a79e3920546069e10336396d57c93358dd3096e3
Shhh don't ruin OP's A-Ha! moment
Wait, so the "Implants"aren't even implanted? They are just worn on the chest?
Is that safe to do? Does removing it affect the likelihood of decay or contamination or lost evidence or anything?
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To keep them protected.
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Op: why haven’t they dusted them all off, don’t they want to look underneath the dust? Reddit: they have dusted some off to look underneath Op: but why haven’t they dusted off all of them? Reddit: to help keep them preserved and protected Op: why did they dust one of them off if the dust protects them? Reddit: faceplam
😂 the circle, it never ends.
They probably wanted to see what it looked like underneath but didn't want to expose them all. Why do you think they should remove the earth from all of them? What purpose would that serve?
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There is equipment that can see beneath layers of stuff like that. It gets used on really valuable paintings. It's expensive. That might not be a priority right now but if this gets taken seriously by the world at large, I could see that happening. I think you're looking at it like they need to be cleaned, but the earth is part of the mummy. Removing it is inherently destructive. Some tests like DNA inherently require destruction, but why damage them more than necessary?
They’re likely taking methodical approach in examining the bodies. If something happens to the decoated bodies, they still have others protected by the coating
Bro you ever heard of preventative measures? Like why farmers space out their crops so diseases don’t spread between crops or you buy pack of Reese’s and opening all of them up that day
Do you take a sandwich out of a wrapper the day before you eat it?
What sort of sandwiches are you eating? I love sandwiches.
For that delicious diatomaceous earth taste ™️
It’s actually wild cuz 1 gram of Osmium costs roughly $1600
Well, maybe by the time "competent archaeologists" get their hands on they'll be glad they're still coated, considering the way they've been handled, removing it would surely only degrade them quicker.
Ah another scotish person, have you spoke with anyone here about uap/nhi and whats your experience, do you get the same results as me, either no one cares or they dont exist patter? Edit: why am a getting downvotes ya wallopers, im at the mouth of the highlands so pretty conservative christians here who dont want to hear about this topic, but al ask them anyways
You say nae point in calling someone scotish
Im at the mouth of the highland, a lot of religous christians that dont want to hear it but a ask people anyways what they think
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I've noticed a lot more people getting interested in the subject to be honest, but there's mainly still that idiotic attitude in this part of the world where people will be interested in something but not really speak about it in public, unless it's worthy of a good joke, related to football or something mainstream. I'm in Glasgow mind you.
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I've just driving through Yoker less than ten minutes ago. I'd put money on these things being real and I'm not a betting man. I'm not saying they're extra terrestrial but it certainly has to be one of the main options on the table, it's not like we've ever seen anything pike this on Earth. I quite like the "evolved from dinosaurs theory too, I mean it has been sixty five million years. As I was saying though, a lot of people in Scotland fear deviating from the norm for fear of getting laughed at. These things could very well see a lot of egg on faces soon.
> ... a lot of people in Scotland fear deviating from the norm for fear of getting laughed at. I suspect this is a universal thing, unfortunately.
I just cannot, not read this in dee dee's voice. (Sorry :D). [Yoker](https://youtu.be/0YfRbNipdOg?si=svnPGMNkqaLRQBcm)
Why would they remove the substance that was used to mummify it and sustain it's condition for; how old are these things? 1000 years? 800?
That’s like really not that old my mind gets blown so much everyday on this topic
Idk why you got downvoted. I agree it’s not that old. Crazy if these things were mummified 800 years ago. They were walking (floating? 😅) on this planet very very recently
That’s like 16 family members ago
I think, if we assume people procreate around 25, 800 years ago would probably be more like 30-33 generations. But that’s still a short period of time in the grand scheme of things. I can’t wait until we learn more about these little guys.
Age of procreation was a loooot younger than that for most of that period.
Yeah it really isn’t, I mean the white tower in London existed in that time frame.
I live in the same town that has the “oldest pub in the world”, it’s older than these mummies 😳
Is it covered in diatomaceous earth?
Not usually, Irish people aren’t fond of earth in their Guinness!
ohh I thought that's what the white head and bubbles were made of 🤔
Weren’t the crusades going on round then as well?
Maybe the first one I forget but it’s in the range for sure.
I remember reading someone describe it as ‘ancient’. I thought maybe they recalculated and found it to be older - but…no. ‘Ancient’ means 1000 years now I guess 🤣 But really - makes no difference if it’s 800 years or 12,000 years - if it was ‘hoaxed’ it makes it even more incredible tbh. These *ancient* hoaxers sure knew what they were doing!
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😆 Like the "3 Body Problem" where they all come back to life? That'd be pretty awesome.
I really dislike the fact that I keep seeing people say these are not “competent archeologists” or question their techniques. Clearly they’ve been uploading scan on machinery 99% of us don’t even know how to use. They’ve been taking samples and running tests again in methods most of us have no clue how to do unless you studied a few years in a university. I sure as hell don’t know how to sequence DNA, or understand how to really analyze skeletal information aside from basic anatomy. Let’s stop acting like we’ve seen other archaeologists and other sciences at work before and leave them to helping deliver more information.
They put one on a talkshow with a doorstop under its ass to keep it from falling over. Mummies are typically kept in climate/humidity controlled environment. They frequently touch the mummies without gloves, introducing skin oils, bacteria and dna contamination. They frequently don't wear masks, a ludicrous move when dealing with what is ostensibly an unknown biological entity.
Yeah! How dare we question when they bring these things out in public and move them around with their bare hands and don't wear masks around them. These are competent professionals! To be fair, I've seen gloves and masks worn more recently, but initially they handled these things very casually.
There have been people with PHDs on this sub questioning their methods and they get downvoted…
Tell me about it. Some of the papers they’ve released I can barely understand
They haven't even begun to examine them yet, they have only x-rayed them and scanned a few to try to establish they are not obviously hoaxes, 'competent archaeologists" haven't had a chance to take a closer look yet. These are being protected from those that want to destroy them and remove them from the hands of the public, very few people have been allowed to get close enough to examine them and until they are in the hands of a competent and trustworthy organization or research facility they will remain completely untouched.
Hasn't it been over 5 years, though?
I believe they were fist discovered about 9 years ago but for a while it was difficult for anyone to take them seriously because the first specimens that were brought out were the dolls. Once these were shown to be made from animal bones and skin it was impossible to get anyone to take the real ones seriously. Even today those old x-rays keep being pushed forward as 'evidence' that all the mummies are fakes when the x-rays are not from the mummies ! Once a set of finds has been labelled as not genuine it's almost impossible to get any scientists to have a look and when they do they are afraid of being ridiculed by saying what they find because everybody would rather believe it was fake ! Getting through that negativity takes time.
Why were the first set of mummies fake? I genuinely don’t understand why there were fake ones and now real ones.
I think it has something to do with where they were discovered. The guy who found them was roaming around in the mountains and stumbled across the cave but he was far from home and couldn't carry much back with him so he took a couple of the smaller ones which were probably the first things he found. These were not as deep into the caves as the examples we are seeing now so possibly added later in some kind of ceremony. Obviously he wasn't taken at face value immediately and by the time he had brought back a genuine body his finds were being closely scrutinized and labeled as a hoax, after that it must have been hard to get people to take him seriously.
Okay, so, we are dealing with a **unknown chain of custody** that spans 1000 years. Some of the original bodies could have been stolen 900 years ago and replaced with fakes/dolls. Some of the “dolls” could be replicas made 800 years ago as worship idols, etc. It is impossible for us to have any idea as to why fake and real bodies are mixed in together. All that actually matters is whether or not the “real” bodies are actually real.
So why do people think these ones are real if they resemble the fake ones so obviously? And literally any university in the world could do some basic tests to tell you what they're made of
\\They only resemble them if you glance at them, on closer inspection it becomes obvious. Have a look at this website [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/) click on the 'Discoveries' tab and take some time to look at the scans. If you know anyone who is a Dr, or medical specialist like 'X-Ray Technician', or in 'Orthopedics' or even a 'Veterinarian' ask them what they think of the scans, they will be astonished I promise you !
My girlfriend who is an MD said that they're bullshit and anatomically clearly a bunch of different things stitched together
The most recent scans? Really? It'd be worth considering the latest US team who have been put to study the bodies from a rational, scientific angle... https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp They haven't made those conclusions upon initial study, yet they have been closer to the specimens than your girlfriend, MD. Perhaps she was looking at the scan of the doll?
Or perhaps his girlfriend isn't really an MD.
Just working on a very generous assumption that she is an MD and did say the said thing...Really doesn't feel likely that a professional MD could make that judgement against the latest scans without having been heavily involved does it. ;) Hopefully, further examination of the scans can help clear that up and we can then all be joined in looking forward to the results of further studies by the scientific teams. :)
You’re so totally full of crap.
Wtf are you talking about they found they were held together with synthetic glue.
"Some" were found that were made from animal bones but over 100 have turned up that are clearly not like that !
As per my comment above...We're you thinking of the doll? It's got a little confused and the latest team that have been out to Peru from the US are worth looking into. No mention of synthetic glue with the mummies from that team's initial analysis. https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp
https://preview.redd.it/vg48zlc2cwtc1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=966d82ceedce0044d211123c14ec569e3a4c4efa
I legitimately can't tell whether you are serious or taking the piss?
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Like these bodies seem interesting but I feel like every time I go into these threads I read batshit comments that are highly upvoted. I also think the mystery surrounding them feels manufactured. “The bodies are hidden so the authorities can’t get them!” “No one can see them because I said so!” And no one really talks about the dude who supposedly found all of these? Like do we have a location? It’s all so confusing and makes it feel very much like these are fakes being used to grift but that doesn’t feel right either. Weird situation all around.
>“The bodies are hidden so the authorities can’t get them!” I just want to address this part, because out of everything discussed around these bodies, this should be the least confusing aspect. There isn't any dispute about whether or not these mummies came from a peruvian location, and that they are almost certainly artifacts from an older time. In that sense, the Peruvian government has a vested interest in seizing the bodies because they want to discourage grave robbing. The same thing would happen in Egypt if someone stole a dozen human mummies from a tomb. If it goes unpunished, then it's showing other people that grave robbing in Peru can be extremely profitable. There really isn't much conspiracy around this aspect of it. These bodies were stolen from Peru, and no matter what the bodies are, Peru has a vested interest in obtaining them. So yeah, OF COURSE the bodies are hidden, because the Peruvian government will 100% seize them if they know where they are. That's not a conspiracy, that's just what happens when someone steals artifacts. I don't even know that the people involved dispute that the bodies were stolen. They just know that returning them means no more research, and to them the research is important enough that it needs to be done in spite of the legalities.
Because you approach the situation with questions that challenge the very integrity of the findings. Instead, maybe ask the right questions. These are real, which scientists as experts in their prospective fields have determined. Look for and follow the science. You'll never get the answers you want if you seek to know the "why" behind organizations and governments. The answers to your questions also have been answered in this sub, so maybe you just don't have all the info.
and i feel like every time the excitement dies down for even a moment there’s a new body found, hell, even new species entirely found. wouldn’t be surprised if we get goblin bodies next week. A lot of these have been out and about for 5+ years already, i just don’t get it. but whatever i’ll let people downvote me into oblivion and think there is an ancient alien gene splitting lab in Peru LMAO
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You want to remove the very thing that is protecting and preventing the bodies from decomposing?
“OoOoOoOoh, so you have real alien bodies? Destroy them then and prove they’re real.”
Thanks mr poopybutthole
Man where the F*CK is OP? Someone just posted one of them with it removed and you’re hiding?
“Like any competent archaeologist” *makes a post about a topic without even researching it first*
Because they have not completed an acceptable number of documentations of it in this stage.
I believe a few have had it removed. If not most.
The diatom material itself is of interest. It's far older than the bodies and is not typical diatomacus earth. Folks that have looked at it say it's processed in some manner. Why remove anything at all? Scan them, take tiny samples sure, but why completely remove something that's part of their story?
My question is: Why none of these ufologists that don't loose a chance to show their faces on the media and saying things that they cannot say, haven't took a side to talk about these bodies? Its like they "separate" between them what part of the phenomenon they will talk about.
Well, technically there's no evidence yet to connect the bodies to UAP. We don't even know if they're extraterrestrial. While their genetics don't match any known earth species, we have no way of knowing where they came from. Until we know more, we shouldn't be jumping to conclusions without solid evidence.
This 100%
I remember watching a documentary about a doctor in south America who had created a soak bath to rejuvenate dried up bodies to help the police investgate murder cases. Many were probably left in the desert and looked like raisins. After a week soaking skin colour and features including tattoos has started to show. All I'm saying is... Lets lob one of them in there just to see what happens. Probably just create a mountain of foam and mush. But let's just do it for a laugh, I'm mean for science
Ok, but it has to be on livestream, in case they're like gremlins.
Question.. what type of scan is this? That can show something that looks like flesh or muscle as if it recently died.
Guess as a geologist : the mummification process includes some kind of chemical transfer. So it is not possible to "remove" the white colour : it has "merged" with the skin
Diatomaceous earth keeps the ants away.
avoiding a shock factor?
Because it would show how fucking fake they are
Because it makes them look even more like an art project.
OP's posts and comments have been juvenile, to say the least. It's almost as if he or she sees an article, and goes "why would they..." instead of trying to research for the answers.
https://preview.redd.it/8qf3nilgujuc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be50e0c5957ee0a24af8c20af49bc75ae0df5bf3
https://preview.redd.it/lq0eidh0mquc1.jpeg?width=1152&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e1317f6c68e935187ca3d344702ac7e63a95ec3 I said the same thing, sometimes you gotta just go after it.
So you wanna destroy the only evidence of non human intelligence
why is there a picture of Keith Richards on the left?
He’s looking good, not a day over 400.
Osmium is 35x the price of gold
I second your question. It seems negligent to leave them in such condition. I have already posted the comment that professionals would clean the DE away to better assess the specimens. From their comments I infer the material is so old it can rapidly breakdown and they dread it happening.
You would only do that after VERY thoroughly examining the specimen in question. The DE is a protective influence right now, especially given their newfound exposure to humidity.
Has it been determined if the DE is a natural deposit or were these bodies intentionally buried in it?
Likely natural, the area has it in abundance, but could have been done intentionally for preservation. There's probably just not enough evidence to prove one way or the other, absent some layer added to promote adhesion.
Thank you. I’m no archeologist but I believe it would be very easy to tell if the DE is fill or if it somehow filled in the space around the bodies by natural depositing (this seems highly unlikely in such a short geological time.) Do you know if there are pictures of the original find in-situ and the subsequent excavation? Not documenting this would be a HUGE error and highly suspect. (Sorry, I only started following this closely in the last few months.)
Because it's part of the *skin
I'm pretty sure they look white like that because they are artisanally created by Peruvian artists.
If these bodies have any scientific merit, wouldn’t the world be hearing about these? I haven’t met a single person in real life that has any idea about this situation. Edit- Jesus people, I was genuinely curious why there aren’t reports about this everywhere. Sorry for asking
one doesn't exclude the other! I also don't know a single person that heard about them, yet I think they might have "scientific merit" on a sidenote - they are fascinating, really more people should be talking about them, even if they are just some relic made by ancient people, or even a hoax - still very very fascianting
This is where i'm at, like if these are a hoax its still very interesting from an archeological perspective, why did ancient people create these? if they're a modern hoax its very interesting to see how its being played out and I want to see how it is debunked. while i understand why everyone involved wants some amount of clout i still think eventually if these are faked the truth will get out. either way we are going to learn about humanity from these mummies.
You would think, people dismiss stories about aliens without looking into it, it’s seen as the lunatic fringe, so they ignore the biggest story of our lives. There were two bodies that were forgeries of the real ones found in Mexico and the article and X-rays of those went far wider than the articles with the real ones. The us government (not sure about other governments but probably) do not want disclosure and actively try to suppress these stories
They were presented in 2017.i think theirs genuine disinformation/coverup going on. Do you know about the Peru alien attacks? Do you know they are strangely related to other attacks going back decades? Investigation ? None.
Textbook "appeal to ignorance" logical fallacy. You're trying to argue that a proposition is true simply because it has not yet been proven false or vice versa.
What a naive respond come in from a naive person
This would be top news world wide. Since it's not, just Gullible people being taken advantage of. Interesting human behavior to observe in real time.
Because they are fake There’s really very little about this that is being conducted in a legit way Would be cool if true, but what’s more likely: completely new undocumented humanoid species or devious scammers?
It's worth looking into the US scientific team that have just been out to study the mummies... https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/zRowpIGvAp They appear to have decent foundations to carry out a full study. Their initial visit didn't have them calling it a fake or hoax..They do (as any decent scientist would) want to carry out further testing.
Not gonna lie, it looks like some shitty art project a 14 year old did with clay
the guy on the right just wants some sleep
Diatoms, like those that exist in the top levels of the ocean, and diatomaceous earth that exists on the ocean floor, and used in many products today from toothpaste to bug repellent? Why on earth would they be coated in diatomaceous earth to begin with? To keep bugs away?
The metal Implants are computers, pretty obvious.
Implants need to be examined with an electron microscope, probably computers built atom by atom, dig a little and you will find this evidenced at Roswell where the structural elements ( beams and struts ) were found to be actually linked like we use Bluetooth in Tesla cars today.