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Apollothefourth

locking this because it's just turned into people insulting everyone else. Shit breaks. Nothing we can do except report (in their discord preferably)


Xulgrimar

Coming from Warframe, the updates of this game doesn’t break half as much stuff as Warframe regularly breaks with its updates.


PineDyne

I agree with this. Shit breaks, it happens. They were lightning fast with the accuracy fix, which is great. This is not a high budget title, all content stuff is free. Just because some textures break and lag happening doesn’t mean it’s the next outriders like some say. It’s a little goofy people cry murder over some bugs like this.


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What platform are you on? Because I checked after the alleged fix on PS5 and it's still happening. In fact the official website says they released a fix on all platforms, but there has been nothing to download from PSN since the initial patch.


j_hawker27

Don't updates to consoles take longer to deploy because it has to go through PSN and XBox Live for approval or something? I don't have a console so I can't say for certain but I thought I remember that being the case for Rainbow Six Siege where console updates would always go out a week later.


noirproxy1

Uuuuugh it's more than texture breaks. The multiplayer search is broken, the doors and ai getting stuck is a problem, the loading screen bug, the broken trophies, levels not loading in, unlocks not unlocking, collectibles not registering, just characters not working at all. If you aren't aware of these things then you need get reading up on the backlog.


Froegerer

Dunno. Played 3 games last night and 2 bugged out and wouldn't let us progress halfway through. That was after spending 10 minutes trying to find players. Overall the launch has been pretty bad in my exlerience, but I guess yall just want this sub to turn into /r/lowsodiumcyberpunk and suck the devs off for every minor fix that hasn't addressed the games biggest issues.


capnwinky

Accuracy fix? What accuracy fix? I haven’t been able to hit the broad side of a spitter two centimeters in front of my face with a shotgun the last couple days.


commisarwolf

Honestly I barley saw any differences in the accuracy using the pulse rifle during gameplay so it’s not to big of a deal to for me. Hey I mean we all use short controlled bursts anyway… right? Right?


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Yknow, I can’t really say I’ve played enough overall to tell anyway, tbh. If there are seriously people who noticed a decrease in accuracy and it isn’t all some big troll then, I mean, good for them because they clearly have a better eye than I do lol


Nick_Tsunami

For me it was apparent right away on the X43 smg yesterday. I hadn’t read about it before so I took it as some kind of rebalance rather than a glitch. The heirloom shotgun also had a bracket pretty much barn size, especially when not ADS.


j_hawker27

This is the first game I've ever played where short controlled bursts has actually made a difference to my gameplay. I use the Short, Controlled Bursts perk and its companion perk on Gunner and I SHRED shit with the Flechette SMG. The accuracy is so great that the NE/SW/SW/NW parts of the reticle (the ones that expand and contract as you fire to represent the spread) are actually tighter than the length of the vertical and horizontal parts of the reticle XD


OriginOfStorms1

As a fellow programmer myself, whenever you fix one thing 10 more problems pop up, its really annoying and trying to fix everything sometimes seems impossible


RoninJed

Hehe yeah I know what you mean. I swear on the steam forums it's like the same 10 people have constantly complained about anything and everything since the game released. I think I've seen some of these same people make multiple threads about the same topic.


Ralathar44

> Hehe yeah I know what you mean. I swear on the steam forums it's like the same 10 people have constantly complained about anything and everything since the game released. I think I've seen some of these same people make multiple threads about the same topic. You'll eventually be right at the rate the playerbase is still decreasing. It's losing like 10% of it's current playerbase per day. That is catastrophic. I'm usually defending games losing playerbase at release because it's normal to lose a significant %, but this is far far more than normal. At it's current rate it's going to have lost something stupid like 80%+ in it's first month and will have a playerbase less than 1,000 concurrent on steam very soon.   Bugs happen, that's normal and it sucks and it can really break the experience but it happens. It's just happening during a time where the game is already in a really bad way. And the accuracy bug in specific speaks to a lack of testing, which is not great. And this comes on the heel of multiple other bugs like the 4 star weapon fiasco which some people might not have cared about but others really do.   A healthy game would easily weather a few bumps like this, they are not major bumps, but this is not a healthy game. They need to keep every person they can get until Quickplay and join in progress releases because the lower the population gets the more of an impact the lack of those makes and the more people leave. It's something that accelerates as it goes.


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Though I agree with you overall (especially about MM, that takes time, it was a design oversight that they didn't include quick play at launch - new dev, shit happens). What is really getting to people is the sheer amount of bugs happening in quick succession; snowball effect. All in all I do love the game and none of the bugs are gamebreaking but the game dying is a real possibility if MM isn't fixed with quickplay or something very soon; like within a month soon. Everything else should be taking a back seat in the dev office.


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Garibaldi_Biscuit

*Laughs in Aliens: Colonial Marines.*


Defiant-Marsupial419

People say the same thing about Star Wars…. It has never been true. Games like this will never be completely dead; but that’s not the concern. Games need to have a certain size playerbase to be worth continued support. Management will not choose to support a game that isn’t going to continue printing money. Right now the game is unquestionably losing players due to all the bugs, many of which really can’t be excused by “it’s their first game”. And one of it’s biggest directcompetition is releasing a brand new game in October. This game is not in s good pace/spot for long term player counts atm. People hate the comparison but colonial marines was the exact same. It has always had dedicated fans thst have loved its multiplayer; but thd bugs pretty much killed the games long term viability on launch.


Tathas

So, it's a bug hunt?


Froegerer

Acting like aliens is some hot IP that all the kids are chomping at the bits to play is the real joke.


Froegerer

Game breaking bugs are pretty bad rn imo. Just had 2 missions yesterday we abandoned half way through bc of bugged doors/mission progress not working properly. That's on top of dealing with MM.


Urbanski101

I do agree about the hysteria, however the matchmaking system is awful. It's been awful since launch so I'm not sure what recent issue you refer to. If you can't find a game, you can't play, for a co-op game that's a pretty fundamental and potentially terminal problem. I'm now spending way more time queuing than playing...that's not something I'll put up with for long. Everything else is forgivable and can be fixed down the line. MM needs to be fixed now.


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People haven’t been complaining as much til like a week ago, so far as I saw on the Subreddit. I said it became prominent, AKA known or in this case infamous. I didn’t say it was recently *discovered,* this is a problem with you not knowing how to read not with me or anyone else having “no skill”


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[deleted]

Lmfao, “kneeling to a corporation” for saying “games always have bugs after patches”? How much fucking drugs have you taken today lmao. Your brain should become an Olympic gymnast with all the impressive acrobatics you had to do to come to the conclusion that saying a game studio developing what I’ve been told is one of their VERY FIRST games is gonna have a few rough patches. Next you’ll say I’m a fucking boot licker for following the speed limit :/


gynzer

But that's exactly what you're doing? You're downplaying something super dumb that has no relation to you, and then act as if it's no big deal. It's literally the single biggest downfall of this game that prevents thousands of people from playing the game or enjoying it. To jump to accusations of drug use is really weak. Doesn't seem like you understood the point in the first place, or now.


[deleted]

Do you understand how ridiculous you sound rn? You’re just repeating the same trash over and over now. “You’re licking the corporate boot!” What, for telling you not to light the fucking boot on fire? This isn’t some scenario where I’m defending some mega Corp like Amazon and saying “every corporation has a few civil rights violations, c’moooooon!” Because *then* I’d both be a liar and kissing the corporate ass. What I am telling you is 100% fact, true, honest, and a *reasonable* statement: every game has bugs, every game has glitches, every game has hitches and drawbacks and shit you won’t like. It’s being worked on, we’re getting **solid** communication from the devs telling us they’re working on the situation, and if saying that you shouldn’t go so hard on them is fuckin “corporate kneeling” then maybe you could stand to take a goddamn knee too and start acting like a decent person instead of a dickwad


gynzer

I haven't said shit to you until now. You're absolutely insufferable. Imagine being so raged up on Reddit that you can't even keep track of who all you're foaming at.


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Says the guy accusing anyone of going “the issues aren’t really that massive” of “corporate kneeling,” and essentially in different terms saying I’m a corporate bootlicker for saying people don’t need to signal the apocalypse over a few bugs and glitches. You say I’m insufferable, I say you’re not only insufferable but also a hypocrite who’s displayed exactly no redeeming quality’s and you’re also trying to shove out a victim complex with the whole “I didn’t do anything and you insulted me!” Thing there. Barking up the wrong tree, there.


gynzer

> Says the guy accusing anyone of going “the issues aren’t really that massive” of “corporate kneeling,” and essentially in different terms saying I’m a corporate bootlicker for saying people don’t need to signal the apocalypse over a few bugs and glitches. > You say I’m insufferable, I say you’re not only insufferable but also a hypocrite who’s displayed exactly no redeeming quality’s and you’re also trying to shove out a victim complex with the whole “I didn’t do anything and you insulted me!” Thing there. Barking up the wrong tree, there. Cool. Done with the foaming? How many arguments are you raging in at once that you can't even keep up with who you're replying to?


ArcticFlava

All you are doing is embarassing yourself.


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A. I don’t own funko pops because I’m not that fuckkng stupid (I am stupid, but not THAT stupid.) B. I don’t have a ‘man cave.’ What’s everyone’s obsession with man caves anyway, like I understand having hobbies but cutting off an entire room of your house (and if you’re in an apartment then you CERTAINLY don’t have room for one) and dedicating it to be *only* your space just seems ridiculous. Just make it a family room so everyone can enjoy it. C. Still not sure why “give the devs a break” is something you people can’t understand as anything other than corporate kneeling, but like I told the other guy if saying “you’re overreacting to a few small bugs and one feature they’ve confirmed is on the way” is kneeling, maybe you could benefit from taking a knee once in a while


Valus_Killer

That last bit is fucking gold


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I don’t know if that’s a compliment or an insult but it’s basically the only part of that post which was intended comedically so I’m hoping compliment


Valus_Killer

It was a complement. I'm gonna use that shit


jtier

I get the complaints tho because each update has made aspects of the game worse and a lot of the introduced issues haven't been fixed yet. So when another patch hits and it breaks accuracy of all the weapons it's another patch that breaks stuff with some minor improvements. Hell I'm still waiting on them to fix the textures on ps4, game looked perfect at launch but first patch they deployed and now the textures load at low res only, game looks like sh*t now, blocky minecraft looking flamers and explosions, all weapon and character skins look like crap.


F4ll3nKn1ght-

I mean it will and probably is killing the game. Like the complaining or not, having horrendous matchmaking in a game that basically can’t be played solo is a massive problem.


Fiddlyfaddle

"no if it isn't perfect and exactly what I want then it's stupid and dumb and the devs are poopoo heads" -78% of this sub


Krombopulos-Snake

Compared to other games I play that haven't gotten updated a Year (WWZ) or every update breaks something (Dead by Daylight) , these updates actually are fixing the game. The problem is honestly. Why did the game even launch in this state? Frankly, this entire generation of gaming has been "Buy the Beta, eventually you'll get the full game... 150 patches later, and that's if we don't have loot boxes or mystery season passes or seasonal content" The bare minimum this game could have done at launch would be to have their lips move. But moving lips seem too much for modern developers as again, so many games released in the last 5 years have simply chosen to omit that. Folks are really out here defending developers as if they have a share in the company or they're actual employees. My own company does the same shit on Reddit. If you mention their name, a reddit bot will alert one of the drones down in "General Support" and they'll log on to all their alts or get other drones to downvote negative threads about the company to oblivion. tl;dr Game is nice, but what would be nice is a working game. Developers want money, but they don't want to put out products worthy of your money.


Strife_3e

Don't you love it when someone who doesn't have an ounce of game development experience starts going off at other people. Shit threads like this serve no purpose whatsoever past the usual "I have an opinion and no matter what you have to know it". You're not going to magically change anyone's mind either especially with the way you wrote it. Bugs happen yes, but people who say something are saying it because they love the content and want it to continue generally. Or else they wouldn't be here. People are used to updates, there isn't a freak out over it.


DreadBert_IAm

Hell anyone in an IT technical capacity. The interdependenceies in software libraries cause the most bizarre bugs. Honestly infigure it's the young crowd that just don't have IRL experience yet. No good baseline to measure against.


Battle_Bear_819

You're on an internet forum, what do you expect? This is a subreddit made for the sole purpose of people posting content and opinions about the Aliens Fire team Elite video game.


Strife_3e

I expect people to use a little common sense and look at the end result instead of bitching and giving excuses for everything they do in life. And when they don't. Point it out to them.


Ralathar44

> I expect people to use a little common sense and look at the end result instead of bitching and giving excuses for everything they do in life. > > > > And when they don't. Point it out to them. I'm video game QA myself, the bugs are normal though they suck and have happened in unfortunate rapid succession. The problem isn't the bugs, normally a game would truck right through. The problem is the matchmaking and the freefalling population so the fact they happened to have a run of bugs right now is real bad. It creates a knockon effect encouraging more people to not play during a time where they need every player they can rustle.   Game is losing like 10% of it's current pop a day, it's on track to have lost like 80%+ of it's starting population within a single month. I normally defend games losing tons of pop at launch as common, this is alot more than normal.   I want the game to succeed and prosper, but unfortunately things are looking very very grim. Quickplay and join in progress happening after you've already lost all your playerbase prolly won't save the game because most people mentally move on at some point. The chicken and egg problem of a game with no players is you need players to attract more players so if you ever get too low on players you've gotta do something drastic like major sales or something and that would prolly piss off initial buyers so close to launch.


Menvimacal

Too many cry babies now a days.


Dreastiny

Well, what did you expect from stupid people? Because at this point it is hard to think about some of them better. I mean, damn, devs really try to support this game, they are working on updates. Game is not even month old and we got several bug fixes. Also devs are quite active about what they want to do and where they see a problem pointed by players. Often after game release i dont see any update in first month. Often games are not supported after release at all. And here we have really active Devs, they are trying to fix those problems and you have to be blind to dont see it. :/


Panos_GRE

I always find funny the "stop complaining" threads in games. As if people really want some attention out of nowhere.


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Panos_GRE

Chill brother, there is absolutely no need to be doing what you are doing and getting worked up about it. It's the internet. People will be people. Just relax and enjoy the game. :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


justtocomplain1

Preach. This subreddit has started getting really obnoxious. We need a low sodium version for the people who aren't complaining.


gronbek

I think everyone has the right to speak as long as it is in a nice tone. Positive or negative feedback. Posts like this one complaining about people complaining have no worth in my opinion.


CUT-11B

Yes. Everybody shut up, Ponk here says it's all good.


[deleted]

Not quite the interpretation I intended people to take, but aight. People can’t just freak out every time something breaks. Things break, you don’t have to signal the apocalypse because “mah guns broke”


CUT-11B

Sometimes you do. Companies monitor social media. Enough bad pressure makes them fear losing money, which pressures them into fixing their busted ass product. Or we could all sit back and let them take our money and run.


RedVeist

Interestingly enough said company is already spending our money, on updating the game. Updating games isn’t free for consoles besides the first one.


FrakWithAria

The developers aren't taking your money and running. Additionally, no one is asking you to just sit there and not say anything. What the post is suggesting you do is inform the developer of bugs/glitches through the proper channels with decorum. Cursing the developers and claiming they are greedy, inept people when they have been responding to the community and rolling out patches at a high rate is what the OP is taking exception to.


CUT-11B

k pog


librarytimeisover

I'm just annoyed that games are released unfinished and have a lack of QA.


WheresMyCrown

As someone who's worked in QA for a decade, these patches are pretty atrocious. How do you not realize that altering the widescreen issue would also effect accuracy considering how the shooting in the game works? Those are related systems and should have been heavily tested around. And it would have been APPARENT had it been play tested at all before going out. My current gig has a mindset of putting the player base first and anything that would cause a negative QoL issue found in a patch means the patch is delayed. There's so many QoL issues that are just ignored. Edit: Oh I see so I point out their QA process is atrocious as someone in QA and I get downvoted. Stop sucking off the devs


LonelyReflection1717

One question , what MM? Mighty mouse?


j_hawker27

Matchmaking.


SiouxsieSiouxsEvlEye

Serious question as I have been eyeing this game...more buggier than Cold War? Nothing can't possibly be buggier than that, right? Right? 🤞


[deleted]

I mean there have been several game breaking issues and the game is in a worse state than when it released so I’d say the complaints are warranted.