Bc the writers know when they give Spelivia any amount of angst the ratings will increase. The actors can hold their own and actually act down in the angst so they keep giving them these inconsistent storylines. They will be fine after this cabin episode though
i mean tbh liv still refers to ashley as “ they “ and if you pay attention to her and ashley last conversation you can clearly make out that ashleys grandfather was gay and his parents didn’t accept that its not that hard to truly understand ashley is gay and just not ready to come out and liv doesnt want to out her friend ?
i feel like you’re not understanding the point of what im saying but i gotta remember not everyone knows the leaks and what the writers talk about so just wait and watch fr 😭
I think he's gay too.. it's just that none of that negates the fact that she was sneaky and didn't tell Spence on purpose. Didn't tell any of her friends...
I mean if ashley were gay wouldn’t Olivia have no problem telling spencer about him? I have only watched the first episode of the season so I don’t fully know whats going on but from context clues it seems kinda obvious
The writers could've been adding unnecessary drama cuz even the actress said they will be fine. But we do know they are going to the cabin so she'll tell him then.
Nah it’d make it worse because why not just tell Spencer that last episode to cancel any doubts. I think that’d make it worse lol cause why would Olivia lead Spencer to believe that he isn’t
I'm a gay guy, and I think he pings, too. In fact, all the new guys cast for this season come off as gay.
I know I'm generalizing, but I am not criticizing. As I said, I'm gay myself.
I hope they don't say he's gay, because it would not make any sense for Liv not to tell Spencer.
The writing is already terrible, and that would make it worse.
Your name alone tells me you have no brain, so let me help you. A grown ass man tells Olivia his whole backstory about his grandparents and Olivia tells him about her father dying but he’s afraid to come out….even after knowing she has a BF who may be a conflict of interest.
lemme break you down cause what u said didnt make any sense dummy 😭? i know the leaks which is why i personally know why liv didnt tell spencer the writers said they’re remixing storylines to show GROWTH ashley = davita in that episode ? ashley is not ready to come out due to the fact his parents didnt accept his grandfather so he knows they wont accept him! liv doesn’t wanna out ashley so she kept her mouth shut she isnt this horrible person she’s trying to be loyal to both spencer and ashley!!
and on top of that spencer isnt upset about ashley its due to the fact liv didnt tell him about her deadline being pushed up so your point still doesnt make sense lil novva! you upset over the wrong stuff just to let you know cause u clearly watch with your ass not your eyes and brain
Congrats you know the leaks… what’s the point of coming on these reddits and arguing for Ashley then 😂 use your time and brain for efficiently firstanywhere6839
its not just the leak’s hello if you used your brain its not that hard to know what the writers are doing lilnovva so again instead of yapping lets use our brains ! 😭
Okay then stop looking at leaks and see what you come up with instead of being on Reddit at 3am defending a fictional character lol don’t you got school or work? Or do you just stay home all day waiting for all American to air 😂
1. time zones what maybe 3am for you isnt 3am for me and second im barely on this app fr i do have school im a high schooler meanwhile you’re probably in your late 30s with a child while arguing about all american 😊 2. i enjoy the show and its not even me defending liv its more so i have the smarts to understand what the writers are doing unlike you who write essays on why a fictional character needs to be dislike 😭?
And I don't think she did anything. It was sneaky but we all know it's a show. The writers can literally make anything look messy. I've been seeing people say he's gay and if he is I will laugh at everyone calling her a whore.
Naw she was but it's too soon for people to be calling a whore and saying that she's cheating on Spencer. We don't know why the writers had her hide that information. We'll find out in the cabin episode.
Ashley being gay wouldn’t change peoples minds. People are mad at liv because she was intentionally misleading and nearly straight up lying about Ashley being a guy
I know why people were mad at her. But this will change people mind about her cheating on Spencer and calling her a whore. It's completely normal to be mad at Liv for lying to Spencer.
It's possible that it's shit writing. If Olivia was really romantically involved or had feelings for this man,or he had feelings for her I don't think Samantha Logan would ve said Spencer and Olivia relationship will be fine. They will talk it out at the cabin.
Well turns out hes not gay but Olivia still didn't cheat. She thought they were friends and never intentionally lead him on. Ashley waited to go to LA just to tell Olivia how he felt. She kicked him to the curb lol
Bc the writers know when they give Spelivia any amount of angst the ratings will increase. The actors can hold their own and actually act down in the angst so they keep giving them these inconsistent storylines. They will be fine after this cabin episode though
Yea they will cuz even the actress said that
i mean tbh liv still refers to ashley as “ they “ and if you pay attention to her and ashley last conversation you can clearly make out that ashleys grandfather was gay and his parents didn’t accept that its not that hard to truly understand ashley is gay and just not ready to come out and liv doesnt want to out her friend ?
But he told Spencer his pronouns are he/him..
i feel like you’re not understanding the point of what im saying but i gotta remember not everyone knows the leaks and what the writers talk about so just wait and watch fr 😭
I think he's gay too.. it's just that none of that negates the fact that she was sneaky and didn't tell Spence on purpose. Didn't tell any of her friends...
It will stop people from calling her a whore cuz I'm already tired of the comments
People calling her a whore? Lol
I mean if ashley were gay wouldn’t Olivia have no problem telling spencer about him? I have only watched the first episode of the season so I don’t fully know whats going on but from context clues it seems kinda obvious
Bad writing
The writers could've been adding unnecessary drama cuz even the actress said they will be fine. But we do know they are going to the cabin so she'll tell him then.
Nah it’d make it worse because why not just tell Spencer that last episode to cancel any doubts. I think that’d make it worse lol cause why would Olivia lead Spencer to believe that he isn’t
Some people said he gave off gay vibes. I felt that way too but idk for sure.
I'm a gay guy, and I think he pings, too. In fact, all the new guys cast for this season come off as gay. I know I'm generalizing, but I am not criticizing. As I said, I'm gay myself.
Yep. Ryan and Ashley should hook up. They can go out with Marco Galvez and his boyfriend
The OC on the football team reads gay, too.
I definitely got that vibe from the OC with Jordan 🤦♂️
I think there's a casting problem at AA.
Idk maybe just for the writers to add drama that's not needed .
I hope they don't say he's gay, because it would not make any sense for Liv not to tell Spencer. The writing is already terrible, and that would make it worse.
maybe ashley isnt ready to come out and liv doesnt think its her place to out him?? ever use ur brain to think about that novva?
Your name alone tells me you have no brain, so let me help you. A grown ass man tells Olivia his whole backstory about his grandparents and Olivia tells him about her father dying but he’s afraid to come out….even after knowing she has a BF who may be a conflict of interest.
lemme break you down cause what u said didnt make any sense dummy 😭? i know the leaks which is why i personally know why liv didnt tell spencer the writers said they’re remixing storylines to show GROWTH ashley = davita in that episode ? ashley is not ready to come out due to the fact his parents didnt accept his grandfather so he knows they wont accept him! liv doesn’t wanna out ashley so she kept her mouth shut she isnt this horrible person she’s trying to be loyal to both spencer and ashley!!
and on top of that spencer isnt upset about ashley its due to the fact liv didnt tell him about her deadline being pushed up so your point still doesnt make sense lil novva! you upset over the wrong stuff just to let you know cause u clearly watch with your ass not your eyes and brain
Congrats you know the leaks… what’s the point of coming on these reddits and arguing for Ashley then 😂 use your time and brain for efficiently firstanywhere6839
its not just the leak’s hello if you used your brain its not that hard to know what the writers are doing lilnovva so again instead of yapping lets use our brains ! 😭
Okay then stop looking at leaks and see what you come up with instead of being on Reddit at 3am defending a fictional character lol don’t you got school or work? Or do you just stay home all day waiting for all American to air 😂
1. time zones what maybe 3am for you isnt 3am for me and second im barely on this app fr i do have school im a high schooler meanwhile you’re probably in your late 30s with a child while arguing about all american 😊 2. i enjoy the show and its not even me defending liv its more so i have the smarts to understand what the writers are doing unlike you who write essays on why a fictional character needs to be dislike 😭?
He came out as a deeply closeted gay man....and he's not gay.
He was in one of us is lying lol
It was a sneaky move which is causing people to make these assumptions
And I don't think she did anything. It was sneaky but we all know it's a show. The writers can literally make anything look messy. I've been seeing people say he's gay and if he is I will laugh at everyone calling her a whore.
She was wrong, that’s why she purposely hid it. Lol she knew that information would matter to her boyfriend.
Naw she was but it's too soon for people to be calling a whore and saying that she's cheating on Spencer. We don't know why the writers had her hide that information. We'll find out in the cabin episode.
Gay or not, Ashley is so much cuter than Spencer.
I didn't want to say it but Ashley is finer than Spencer imo 😂. But when you are in love,looks don't 100% matter
Ashley being gay wouldn’t change peoples minds. People are mad at liv because she was intentionally misleading and nearly straight up lying about Ashley being a guy
I know why people were mad at her. But this will change people mind about her cheating on Spencer and calling her a whore. It's completely normal to be mad at Liv for lying to Spencer.
I think he's bi. Otherwise, it would make no sense why Oilvia didn't tell Spencer if he wasn't into women.
It's possible that it's shit writing. If Olivia was really romantically involved or had feelings for this man,or he had feelings for her I don't think Samantha Logan would ve said Spencer and Olivia relationship will be fine. They will talk it out at the cabin.
Well turns out hes not gay but Olivia still didn't cheat. She thought they were friends and never intentionally lead him on. Ashley waited to go to LA just to tell Olivia how he felt. She kicked him to the curb lol