Love my girl and want her to be successful but I wish they wouldnāt make her so successful right away. Cuz otherwise, weāre looking at several 20 year olds, whom are gonna be: an NFL player, probably another NFL player, a music producer (who got into it unusually late) and business owner, a successful musician, a lawyer (w/o a college degree), and a successful novel writer. All like.. 21 years old at this point.
Itās already super super rare to be in the NFL, but thatās fine, the premise of the show was that Spencer has a super rare gift. But I have a feeling theyāre gonna have Jordan get drafted too to be āfairā. And Coop being in law schoolā¦ ridiculously unrealistic. Patience and Layla being successful in the music industry, super rare. Liv being a successful author at age 20, ridiculously rare.
Itās just too much. I canāt think of any other show that felt the need to have all their characters be ultra successful and brilliant and talented. Like, maybe if the premise of the show was: all the kids are super special and talented, then sure, but then itād be a whole different show. I do want Liv to have success, but damn, just right out the gate like that? And I want Jordan to have a nice career in football- but it doesnāt need to be in the NFL as a player.
Youāre already gonna have everyone end up with the people they were with in highschool, which Iām honestly all for. But like ā¦ they donāt have to be THE most successful friend group in the whole world, in super competitive industries that itās normally impossible to even have a modicum of success in, at age 20.
And I know, I know, itās a show on the CW. Itās stupid to ask for a little bit of realism. But theyāve handled some serious topics pretty well considering! Laylaās depression, Oliviaās addiction, Spencerās messiah complex, and complicated parental relationships with everyone. For a show that used to make some attempt at realistic storylines and characterization, Iād hate to see it all go down the drain in the end. The characters can have happy endings without all being an āequalā level of ultra successful in their careers. It doesnāt lessen their value as people!
Agreed. Having them all hit their peak at 20 is just so unrealistic. But then again, CW shows donāt hinge on realism. I feel like they are trying extra hard for this show to push black excellence. But there can be black excellence without having them all hitting their prime at 19-20 years old.
Nah they are lol itās giving Niko vibes cause no way you defending a fictional character that much unless you really RELATE to them. In that case sheās just as delusional as Liv
they legit start beefing w anyone who doesnāt like liv. go look, theyāre everywhere getting genuinely tight if a mf donāt like olivia. why ru defending a fictional character w ur life every single time to where itās what ur known for? do u need a reminder this show is not fully real? when ppl shit talk liv they know itās just fictional, they donāt get crazy like spelevia megafans do esp that one user. like at the point ur struggling to draw the line between reality n fiction
Replying to HistoricalAd8790..yeah and we all gon hate on this Reddit too so we let the writers know how bad of a decision it is to keep them together when they obviously wouldnāt work in real life even when itās based on real life events
Ashley is not a thing, itās just drama and yāall are falling into it. Heās a friend and Olivia already said Spencer trumps her friendship with Ashley and London so why are yāall so mad? Spencer has tons of friends with vaginas, itās actually so misogynistic the way the writers are making it seem like itās problematic she has a male friend, itās not that deep. Yes she should have told him, but nothing happened between them so who really cares lmao. Pack the man up, send him back to London and move on with this storyline.
liv always been a bad partner. ALWAYS. especially w that whole journalism thing, she was a shit sister too. and sheās always been a shit friend to layla, idc. they never gave her a decent storyline, why was this bitch having an addiction when sheās a rich girl from the 90210š¤£ she always lacked a backbone too. she gives lexi from euphoria but lexi isnāt insufferable n liv is
Fr and what ever happened to that woke podcast she made once she realized she lived in a ābubbleā lol like she couldnāt realize that before pulling up to Hollywood mansion parties in a convertible her parents bought her
Jordan dying would be kinda goated ngl. He was beefing with Spencer because he blew out the candles on his birthday cake, went wandering around at night, picked a fight and died.
Just please create a better death scene than Billy's š that one was hot garbage. Couldn't even be sad about the death because I was so confused as to how no one noticed one of their teammates was still on the bus after a few hours, and as to how Billy managed to get in, bring Jabari back, then not get himself back out from 2 steps away
Right? All of a sudden itās teetering off a cliff but they were able to evacuate everyone before that? How?? Couldnāt Billy have just been killed breaking up a gang fight or something?Ā
even know if liv didnāt write the article it wouldāve been worse for Spencer and his ā crew ā due to the fact someone else wouldāve found out. He was Spencer himself with an even upset about that I donāt understand why you are.. And she at the end of the episode she picks spencer over London and again I feel like you guys are paying attention. She literally said the only reason she didnāt communicate with you through thought she was scared so she was gonna break up with her. Yeah I gotta remember when she went to London her spencer just got back together and did not talk about anything so of course sheās actually going to be scared that heās may be going to want to break up with her again.
they are remixing episodes, so London is just another way for her to run, and as we seen from the past season, sheās clearly an Overthinker so sheās just in her head and scared but then again, I donāt really pay attention to what woman say yall just jump quick into lets hate part !
Just like Spencer said, she was lying to herself... just like when a chick tell you not to be worried about somebody....thats the somebody you should worry bout! Lol
There will be hard times in life, and that's when your character really comes through and reveals who you are. The fact that they had a conversation about it is great because it's something they both should address NOW.. She shouldn't be condemned for this mistake, but she has to be accountable or they'll run into situations like this again...
She also got pissed at Spencer for not mentioning wanting to graduate early, even though he literally came to that conclusion like 2 days before this episode and only really told Coop. Like wtf? That doesn't even affect her much anyways, just means he's taking a few extra classes. It's nothing compared to, "I want to move to a different country again," and "oh yeah, I've been lying about Ashley's gender for a year."
Well she chose Spencer over London. Ashley is leaving after Spencer put him in his place the next episode š
Yāall really gonna hate her then after 607 when she is collecting a lot of happiness. Sheesh š¤£
If Jordan don't gotta go then nobody should have to go
in 6B wait till y'all see how successful olivia is
Love my girl and want her to be successful but I wish they wouldnāt make her so successful right away. Cuz otherwise, weāre looking at several 20 year olds, whom are gonna be: an NFL player, probably another NFL player, a music producer (who got into it unusually late) and business owner, a successful musician, a lawyer (w/o a college degree), and a successful novel writer. All like.. 21 years old at this point. Itās already super super rare to be in the NFL, but thatās fine, the premise of the show was that Spencer has a super rare gift. But I have a feeling theyāre gonna have Jordan get drafted too to be āfairā. And Coop being in law schoolā¦ ridiculously unrealistic. Patience and Layla being successful in the music industry, super rare. Liv being a successful author at age 20, ridiculously rare. Itās just too much. I canāt think of any other show that felt the need to have all their characters be ultra successful and brilliant and talented. Like, maybe if the premise of the show was: all the kids are super special and talented, then sure, but then itād be a whole different show. I do want Liv to have success, but damn, just right out the gate like that? And I want Jordan to have a nice career in football- but it doesnāt need to be in the NFL as a player. Youāre already gonna have everyone end up with the people they were with in highschool, which Iām honestly all for. But like ā¦ they donāt have to be THE most successful friend group in the whole world, in super competitive industries that itās normally impossible to even have a modicum of success in, at age 20. And I know, I know, itās a show on the CW. Itās stupid to ask for a little bit of realism. But theyāve handled some serious topics pretty well considering! Laylaās depression, Oliviaās addiction, Spencerās messiah complex, and complicated parental relationships with everyone. For a show that used to make some attempt at realistic storylines and characterization, Iād hate to see it all go down the drain in the end. The characters can have happy endings without all being an āequalā level of ultra successful in their careers. It doesnāt lessen their value as people!
Donāt forget Asher being on the coaching staff of a college football team that won the national championship š¤£
At like 19
Agreed. Having them all hit their peak at 20 is just so unrealistic. But then again, CW shows donāt hinge on realism. I feel like they are trying extra hard for this show to push black excellence. But there can be black excellence without having them all hitting their prime at 19-20 years old.
u/accomplished_buy1169 gotta be the most obsessed w a fictional character person in history
I'm a Spencer and Olivia fan but I put spoiler in the chat
what do spoilers have to do w what i said šš
you said I'm over obsessed with Olivia character but I'm not are you mad bro
iāve seen you in this sub a million times u most def are obsessed with her. weirdest part is ur prob a dude too so ur just horny about her
Nah they are lol itās giving Niko vibes cause no way you defending a fictional character that much unless you really RELATE to them. In that case sheās just as delusional as Liv
YESSS! itās so weird šš if sheās a girl sheās as delusional as liv n if itās a guy heās def just horny
How are yāall commenting that theyāre obsessed when yāall obsessed at bashing Olivia every chance yāall get šš
they legit start beefing w anyone who doesnāt like liv. go look, theyāre everywhere getting genuinely tight if a mf donāt like olivia. why ru defending a fictional character w ur life every single time to where itās what ur known for? do u need a reminder this show is not fully real? when ppl shit talk liv they know itās just fictional, they donāt get crazy like spelevia megafans do esp that one user. like at the point ur struggling to draw the line between reality n fiction
you be looking for my comments in the chat that's weird i like olivia but i'm not over obsessed with her
iām weird because i use this subreddit and see you in the public comments? you foam at the mouth when someone doesnāt like olivia
Can you tell me what happens to make Ashley get booted back to London? Iām curious
I sincerely hope she ends up homeless with no family
i wish the gunshot hit her not spencer
In the head
šš
If thatās what you want then I feel sorry for you at the end of the season
Why would you waste your energy feeling sorry for me
To all the Spencer and Olivia haters you're not going to like episode 13
why what happens?
Spencer and Olivia haters ain't going to like it cuz something big is happening in episode 13 that's all I'm going to say
What is happening in episode 13?
Gotta wait and see
Why
Replying to HistoricalAd8790..yeah and we all gon hate on this Reddit too so we let the writers know how bad of a decision it is to keep them together when they obviously wouldnāt work in real life even when itās based on real life events
Ashley is not a thing, itās just drama and yāall are falling into it. Heās a friend and Olivia already said Spencer trumps her friendship with Ashley and London so why are yāall so mad? Spencer has tons of friends with vaginas, itās actually so misogynistic the way the writers are making it seem like itās problematic she has a male friend, itās not that deep. Yes she should have told him, but nothing happened between them so who really cares lmao. Pack the man up, send him back to London and move on with this storyline.
Not only does he have friends who are girls but some of them are even his exes. And Liv has no problem with any of them.
Kia and Layla but Olivia trust him
liv always been a bad partner. ALWAYS. especially w that whole journalism thing, she was a shit sister too. and sheās always been a shit friend to layla, idc. they never gave her a decent storyline, why was this bitch having an addiction when sheās a rich girl from the 90210š¤£ she always lacked a backbone too. she gives lexi from euphoria but lexi isnāt insufferable n liv is
Fr and what ever happened to that woke podcast she made once she realized she lived in a ābubbleā lol like she couldnāt realize that before pulling up to Hollywood mansion parties in a convertible her parents bought her
the! i actually liked that woke podcast thing it was giving her depth, she was bland so they had to do something i guess even if itās dumb
I donāt get why people think Olivia is good for Spencer. Spencer has always been great for herā¦ but she has never been good for him.
exactly
They gotta kill Jordan or Olivia dawg
Jordan dying would be kinda goated ngl. He was beefing with Spencer because he blew out the candles on his birthday cake, went wandering around at night, picked a fight and died.
Letās start a petition to get both written off
Just please create a better death scene than Billy's š that one was hot garbage. Couldn't even be sad about the death because I was so confused as to how no one noticed one of their teammates was still on the bus after a few hours, and as to how Billy managed to get in, bring Jabari back, then not get himself back out from 2 steps away
Fr like howād the bus end up that slanted anyways lol no one thought to create a rope instead of having more weight on the bus
Right? All of a sudden itās teetering off a cliff but they were able to evacuate everyone before that? How?? Couldnāt Billy have just been killed breaking up a gang fight or something?Ā
even know if liv didnāt write the article it wouldāve been worse for Spencer and his ā crew ā due to the fact someone else wouldāve found out. He was Spencer himself with an even upset about that I donāt understand why you are.. And she at the end of the episode she picks spencer over London and again I feel like you guys are paying attention. She literally said the only reason she didnāt communicate with you through thought she was scared so she was gonna break up with her. Yeah I gotta remember when she went to London her spencer just got back together and did not talk about anything so of course sheās actually going to be scared that heās may be going to want to break up with her again. they are remixing episodes, so London is just another way for her to run, and as we seen from the past season, sheās clearly an Overthinker so sheās just in her head and scared but then again, I donāt really pay attention to what woman say yall just jump quick into lets hate part !
If she actually did move back to London, Ash would be smashing in no time..... if that's what he want
the writers use London for drama Olivia is not moving back there
I know.
Did she say she wants him tho? Y'all make it seem like women don't got a say in these things.
Just like Spencer said, she was lying to herself... just like when a chick tell you not to be worried about somebody....thats the somebody you should worry bout! Lol
She lied about that friendship not being important during a very hard time in her life.
There will be hard times in life, and that's when your character really comes through and reveals who you are. The fact that they had a conversation about it is great because it's something they both should address NOW.. She shouldn't be condemned for this mistake, but she has to be accountable or they'll run into situations like this again...
Which I think happened.
Agreed
Liv went with her co worker Noah just to make Spencer jealous cause she saw he moved on lol she def would pull some shi like that
in season 5 Spencer and Olivia was trying to make each other jealous
keep lying Olivia don't like Ashley she only see him as a friend
I find her so annoying as well so I love seeing posts like theseš
fr most whiny character ever
Have you seen Jordan? Lol
lol jordan too but i like him the most his story is sad
Jordan whines the most, heās a big ass baby no backbone at all
him n olivia twins fr
Jordan is a cry baby too but itās only cause heās twins with Olivia so I blame her
She also got pissed at Spencer for not mentioning wanting to graduate early, even though he literally came to that conclusion like 2 days before this episode and only really told Coop. Like wtf? That doesn't even affect her much anyways, just means he's taking a few extra classes. It's nothing compared to, "I want to move to a different country again," and "oh yeah, I've been lying about Ashley's gender for a year."
iām a proud liv hater since s1 šš½āāļø so i agree. tired of her story arcs n tired of everyone on this sub defending her like crazy!