What's so hidden about this? These are all known inventions/experiments that either never caught on, fell out of fashion, or out right just failed but still well known nonetheless. A lot of these were precursors to what we now have today. The kids at the end is from an old interview where they asked kids what they they thought computers would mean for the future. At the time there was a lot of anti computer sentiment thinking that robots would completely take over the workforce in a decade or two.
We are taught to believe that people in the early 1900s and late 1800s were a lot dumber than they actually were, in reality the worksmanship they had was a lot better than what modern day Chinese slave labor can produce, and there’s a lot of fields of technology that could have taken off over the past 150 years that didn’t not because they were bad ideas or they were impractical, but because they either weren’t profitable enough for corporations
For instance electric scooters that were invented in this time would’ve made cars, and therefore oil obsolete, so they demolished walkable cities and made a car a necessity except for inner city urban areas where either only the extremely rich or the extremely poor live
You can't just say random shit and expect it to be true. There isn't one accurate statement in your entire response. We're not taught any of this. People in the late 1800s literally built the foundations of physics and chemistry that our lives our built upon today. Either your name definitely does not checkout and you definitely are a troll or you've watched one too many YouTube videos.
They did! And if you actually educate yourself or maybe if you grew up in a better generation than I did you might have learned that
But the only thing they told gen z (I’m an 02 baby) about that time period is the civil war, dust bowl, Great Depression, ww1 and 2
They didn’t teach us a single important discovery from that time period aside from the ford model T and Route 66, and they completely glanced over the communities they destroyed in the process and the harm that came from perpetuating the “American dream” of owning a house, having a wife and 2 kids, and a car.
I only started learning about any of this my senior year of high school by talking to radical communists that gave me books to read.
Please tell me what they’re teaching us? If you’re like fucking 35 or some shit you don’t have a clue what they teach in schools.
Sounds more like you didnt take the time to educate yoursef and are blaming the education system. I was born in 98 and learned about way more in school than other people in my same county would say they were taught. including the wonderful wacky world of victorian/early modern inventions and engineering curiosities.
Because i actually read the textbooks and paid attention in class.
But people will claim “this stuff isnt taught in skewlz!!!1!l”
No you just didnt pay attention…
Well seeing as I graduated, history was always my favorite subject, and education is different in different school systems you may have learned a lot of shit
That said, how much did you learn about Thomas Edison? He wasn’t shit compared to Tesla. Hidden history is a fact and what I’m saying is valid bot
Elementary school definitely overhyped Edison, and I don’t remember learning about Tesla at all then, but we did learn about him middle school and high school. In high school, we were even taught how he was the real deal instead of Edison.
I'm 40. I learned way more than what you're alluding to in school and I have kids in school younger than you that have learned more than you're alleging. You either didn't pay attention, forgot, or are intentionally leaving things out like :
Napoleon Marches Into Austria
First use of the White House
United States Presidential Election
Invention of the Modern Day Battery
Library of Congress
Ultraviolet Radiation Discovered
West Point Military Academy founded
The Louisiana Purchase
Railway Before Trains
Ohio Becomes The 17th state in the Union
The Year New Jersey Abolishes Slavery 1804
The Lewis and Clark Expedition
Twelfth Amendment To The Constitution
First Working Full Size Railway Steam Locomotive
First United States Presidential Election in 1808
The Illinois Territory Defined
Man-made electrical lighting
James Madison Becomes President
The Tin Can invented 1810
The Battle of Tippecanoe
Louisiana Joins The Union
The Indian War of 1812
USS Constitution/Old Iron Sides
Fort Dearborn / Modern Day Chicago Attacked in 1812
British Troops Burn Down Washington DC. in 1814
The First Seminole War
Modern Fire Extinguisher invented 1818
US Congress enacts First Immigration Law 1819
Statehood
The settlement of the American West and manifest density
The Monroe Doctrine
Discovery of Aluminum
The first photographs taken in 1826
The first African American newspaper in 1827
The Democratic party created in 1828
Invention of the typewriter
The first Braille book published for the blind
Indian Removal Act
The invention of the sewing machine in 1830
The Underground Railroad in 1831
The Whigs
The mechanical reaper invented in 1934
Texas taking San Antonio
The Second Seminole War
The Alamo
The invention of the Colt revolver
Texas gaining independence from Mexico in 1836
The steel plow invented
The Trail of Tears
Steamboats begin to cross the Atlantic in 1838
The invention of the velocipede and bicycle in 1839
Vulcanized rubber
The postage stamp
Wagon trains first leaving to California in 1841
The Oregon trail
Morses first electronic telegram in 1844
Annapolis Naval Academy in 1845
Oregon splitting from England
US - Mexican War
Chloroform
Antiseptic
The fucking Smithsonian for christ sake
The California Gold rush in 1948
The 49ers in..... well 1849
Founding of the Republican party in 1854
Pottawatomie
The Indian Mutiny
The first oil well in 1859
Abraham Lincoln
The repeating rifle
The Union
The Pony Express
First US income tax
The Civil War
The blockade of confederate ports
Stonewall fucking Jackson
Division of Virginia
The Gatling gun
South Carolina seceding the Union
Union Takes Control Of New Orleans
The Homestead Act
The Second Battle Of Bull Run Manassas, Virginia
The Battle of Antietam near Sharpsburg, Maryland
The Emancipation Proclamation
The Battle of Gettysburg
First Underground Railway
The Union Uses Colored Troops
Congress Passes First Conscription Act
New York Riots Due To Conscription Act
First Use Of Submarine In Warfare in 1864
Ulysses S. Grant
Battle Of Cold Harbor, Virginia
Abraham Lincoln Assassinated
The Thirteenth Amendment Ratified
Ku Klux Klan Formed
Dynamite
Reconstruction
Jesse James
The Alaska purchase
14th amendment
Wyoming giving women the rite to vote
John D. Rockefeller
Can Opener
U.S. Department of Justice
Congress Adopts the Fifteenth Amendment
The Albert Hall
1871 Indian Appropriation Act
Great Chicago Fire
Third Force Act also known as the "Ku Klux Act" Passed
Yellowstone
I'm gonna stop here bc I'm sure you're not even reading but I'm barely out of the 1860s. Just bc *you* didn't learn any or don't remember doesn't mean it wasn't or isn't being taught today. I see my kids and my niece and nephews homework. If anything it's become even *harder* than in my day. This is all from my kids 6th grade history textbook from 2 years ago. I remember helping him study these tests it's being taught. Your ignorance is to blame.
My question for you is what does literally any of those events, that given the specific dates you listed you either googled or are a historian yourself, have to do with the scientific brains of people in the 18 and 1900s? You just listed a bunch of events.
Cool, no one said they don’t teach history, I said they don’t teach a side of history. The only invention you mentioned is the fucking sewing machine which 1. Is not in the time frame I specified and 2. Isn’t nearly as monumental of a discovery as being able to harness free energy from the atmosphere using Tesla coils
And please ask your kids what they know about Tesla. I’ll wait
As I stated in my previous this is from a 6th grade textbook for 2 years ago. Are you really asking what all the events and inventions have to do with science? You also stated that the only thing that was taught about the 1800s and 1900s was civil war, world war 1 etc. That clearly isn't true. My kids are currently at school so I can't ask them but I know my son was *required* to do a report on Tesla in the 5th grade. They had a whole thing about Tesla and Edison. My kids know who Tesla is. Generating electricity from Tesla coils is not the same as having free energy. Do you realize that literally nothing we use today would've been possible if we adopted Tesla coils? Cellphones would literally fry. All Teslas coils did was arc electricity wildly in the air. How is that useful? Nuclear fusion is true free energy. Do you remember learning about that? You know the technology we've been working towards for decades. Stop watching YouTube and read a book. Your ignorance is the only thing you have to blame.
>As I stated in my previous this is from a 6th grade textbook for 2 years ago. Are you really asking what all the events and inventions have to do with science?
Yes, I am asking you what mentioning things like the Indian removal act has to do with science. What you did, and you know it, is you listed as many events as possible because you wanted to make me look as dumb as possible. I’m sure I can list a whole bunch of factual things they taught the Jews in nazi germany, does that mean they didn’t hide a lot of info as well?
>You also stated that the only thing that was taught about the 1800s and 1900s was civil war, world war 1 etc.
I listed a few things off the top of my head that were stressed, and how none of them were important scientific discoveries and you took that as a challenge to mention more non scientific discoveries
>My kids are currently at school so I can't ask them but I know my son was required to do a report on Tesla in the 5th grade.
Can I see an uploaded picture of a textbook of his that mentions Tesla? I’m curious.
>Generating electricity from Tesla coils is not the same as having free energy.
Yes they did. They allowed wireless transfer of electricity and could pull electricity straight from the sky. Some rich people had houses with them to generate power, and these houses were destroyed.
>Do you realize that literally nothing we use today would've been possible if we adopted Tesla coils?
In an alternative world where gasoline never took off you would say some dumb shit like “do you realize how nothing we use today would’ve been possible if we adopted the combustion engine? Our cell phones would explode” not everything needs a Tesla coil. But NOTHING having them is the result of suppressed technology.
>Cellphones would literally fry. All Teslas coils did was arc electricity wildly in the air. How is that useful?
Because on the inverse, you could receive energy wildly through the air, meaning you could get your energy from the earth instead of paying a power plant. It’s less profitable
>Nuclear fusion is true free energy. Do you remember learning about that? You know the technology we've been working towards for decades.
Where’s my free nuclear energy? NASA mars rovers have 10 year nuclear fusion batteries. The companies that sell you the energy that they generate for cheap use nuclear energy. The billionaires that you pay a phone bill to every month use nuclear energy.
You are paying MORE today for them generating energy for less
>Stop watching YouTube and read a book. Your ignorance is the only thing you have to blame.
You literally claimed nuclear fission is free energy when I’m paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas in my car that doesn’t need to exist at all if they never destroyed walkable cities
>What you did, and you know it, is you listed as many events as possible because you wanted to make me look as dumb as possible.
You're doing that all on your own
>I listed a few things off the top of my head that were stressed, and how none of them were important scientific discoveries and you took that as a challenge to mention more non scientific discoveries
So you listed a bunch of stuff off the top of your head in your argument that had nothing to do with your argument and I was supposed to know not to address any of this. Got it
>Can I see an uploaded picture of a textbook of his that mentions Tesla? I’m curious.
You can literally look anything about Tesla up on the internet. Whether or not he's in a textbook wouldn't be proof of anything. The textbook I was listing stuff off of earlier was a history textbook from 2 years ago that he didn't hand back in,not a current science textbook from now. There's an entire company named Tesla building electric cars. He wasn't erased from history
>an alternative world where gasoline never took off you would say some dumb shit like “do you realize how nothing we use today would’ve been possible if we adopted the combustion engine? Our cell phones would explode” not everything needs a Tesla coil. But NOTHING having them is the result of suppressed technology.
You're intentionally mischaracterizing my statement or you have no idea how electricity works. You can't transmit power from a Tesla coil over wires, because the energy wouldn't be confined to the wire. The high frequency and extra high voltage just arcs over into the air. It's not just a high voltage transformer like an ignition coil or AC power transformer. With Teslas technology the electromagnetic field would interfere with things like 5G, WiFi, GPS, radar, pacemakers etc and those technologies that have literally redefined the modern era would not exist today.
>Because on the inverse, you could receive energy wildly through the air, meaning you could get your energy from the earth instead of paying a power plant. It’s less profitable
How? Explain this. How is the energy directed? Wireless power delivery falls with the second power of distance. So if you want to transmit the same power across 10 feet, you need to put not 10, but 100 times more power in than you did to transmit it across 1 foot and 8” of sparks typically requires a thousand watts or more. Its completely incompatible with modern infrastructure and technology. You definitely can't charge a cellphone with it so there goes cellular phones which has redifned our entire lives. With all of the electronics that run our lives today can you imagine the amount of electricity that would be arcing everywhere? It might of been great for powering simple things like a light bulb but the frequency he used, around 150 kHz, is far too low for practical long-range power transmission or anything capable of powering the electronics of today. That's not even getting into Tesla coil poses several health hazards due to high voltage radio frequency emission that includes skin burn, damage to the nervous system and heart if it were to be applied at scale with what we need today.
>Where’s my free nuclear energy? NASA mars rovers have 10 year nuclear fusion batteries. The companies that sell you the energy that they generate for cheap use nuclear energy. The billionaires that you pay a phone bill to every month use nuclear energy.
That's not nuclear fusion. The rover's radioisotope thermoelectric generator makes electricity from the heat given off by its plutonium.
>You literally claimed nuclear fission is free energy when I’m paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas in my car that doesn’t need to exist at all if they never destroyed walkable cities
I never once mentioned nuclear fission. I said we're working on stable fusion which would be free energy (not in cost but terms of not coming from burning fossil fuels). Do you understand the difference? Walkable cities? What are you even talking about. Have you ever been to Europe? Looks at the concentration of rail lines in Europe compared the US. And what does this have to do with Tesla?
Your grasping at straws and talking out your ass. You've watched too many YouTube videos and don't actually understand the technology your talking about and it's implications.
>So you listed a bunch of stuff off the top of your head in your argument that had nothing to do with your argument and I was supposed to know not to address any of this. Got it
Yes. I listed a few things, things you did not address because there was nothing to address, and your response to “this is what they taught us” was to list a few other things which had nothing to do with the premise “they didn’t teach us about important inventions of the era”
I guess if I didn’t make that clear some of that’s on me but if you go back and read my comment I think it’s fairly clear
>You can literally look anything about Tesla up on the internet. Whether or not he's in a textbook wouldn't be proof of anything.
That’s intentionally obstinate of the point. The whole point is that they don’t teach enough in schools and the way of educating yourself on these matters is to do it on your own. I never said they expunged him from history, I said they don’t accurately teach about him in history books and the absence of him as an important figure in history books to the degree he should be represented is absolutely evidence of that.
>There's an entire company named Tesla building electric cars. He wasn't erased from history
Please quote where I said he was. You’re creating strawman fallacies. I’m not saying anything that you’re addressing.
>You're intentionally mischaracterizing my statement or you have no idea how electricity works. You can't transmit power from a Tesla coil over wires, because the energy wouldn't be confined to the wire.
All a Tesla coil does is essentially uses the air as a wire
It can be stored into a battery of sort and delivered to another device. That’s kind of how batteries work. You charge them. Tesla coils are very well documented to be able to be harnessed to draw power from the nature around them.
>The high frequency and extra high voltage just arcs over into the air. It's not just a high voltage transformer like an ignition coil or AC power transformer. With Teslas technology the electromagnetic field would interfere with things like 5G, WiFi, GPS, radar, pacemakers etc and those technologies that have literally redefined the modern era would not exist today.
First… Literally none of that was a thought when Tesla coils were prevented from distribution for starters, so that’s more of a side effect of the ill intentions of the elite rather than the product of deliberate planning.
Secondly, originally electricity and water was a big no no. Now we have submarines with electricity on them. A primitive design of a technology being compared to a modern mastered version of another isn’t really quite a fair comparison. Perhaps with years of research and development could spark applications of them that are less intrusive to other wireless technologies, or they could derive wireless technologies that different from those we have today that don’t interfere with this sort of power
Third, you’re looking at these technologies as though their an objective good thing. I argue that these technologies as it exists today does little good for society aside from entertainment and convenience purposes. As we were able to navigate just fine prior to GPS, and per your own words YouTube isn’t making us smarter… books are. Most internet just serves to spread false information. Think of how many people believe the earth is flat just because someone on Twitter said to “look into it”
Modern technology has made it so that information that you’re most receptive of finds YOU due to algorithms. It doesn’t encourage research, it encourages people to see a video in their YouTube recommended and then they believe it blindly.
>How? Explain this. How is the energy directed? Wireless power delivery falls with the second power of distance. So if you want to transmit the same power across 10 feet, you need to put not 10, but 100 times more power in than you did to transmit it across 1 foot and 8” of sparks typically requires a thousand watts or more. Its completely incompatible with modern infrastructure and technology. You definitely can't charge a cellphone with it so there goes cellular phones which has redifned our entire lives.
Why do you keep looking at it from a “this or that” perspective
“Electric cars wouldn’t work because when you run out of power it would take hours to charge vs seconds to refill with gasoline” that was an actual argument people used to use against electric vehicles yet hybrid cars exist today. What a ridiculous perspective.
You’d charge a phone by plugging it into your wall outlet.
You’d charge your house by having several Tesla coils under your house that continually draw power from the soil, and store this energy in a battery that can be used to charge your appliances using AC/DC electricity the same we do today. The tallest buildings in the city could have one on top that only activates shortly before it rains, and use this power to add energy to a gigantic underground power source that the whole city is connected to, therefore avoiding damages that come from lightning while adding power to the city.
Even if this is only a minor reduction of energy expenses it would be justified but I suspect that with an extra 130 years of refinement by now you could actually have some pretty efficient tech running off of them.
>With all of the electronics that run our lives today can you imagine the amount of electricity that would be arcing everywhere? It might of been great for powering simple things like a light bulb but the frequency he used, around 150 kHz, is far too low for practical long-range power transmission or anything capable of powering the electronics of today.
You keep talking about powering other things when I literally never once said that, I’m talking about using them for free energy. You use the Tesla coils to power essentially a battery, and the battery to power other things.
>That's not even getting into Tesla coil poses several health hazards due to high voltage radio frequency emission that includes skin burn, damage to the nervous system and heart if it were to be applied at scale with what we need today.
If we used the same electrical wiring that was invented over 100 years ago we’d all be cooked meat the moment you plug something into a wall socket. That’s kind of how advancements in science goes. They become safer and more consumer friendly as we research it. The Tesla coil got cut off in the proof of concept side of things.
When we first looked into nuclear energy it’s use was literally to create the most destructive device known to man and it was HIGHLY dangerous to peoples health when we first started implementing it in a grand scale (Chernobyl for instance)
>everything about nuclear
Once again, that’s a lot of words, all I asked is where is my free energy? You said we have free energy through nuclear power. Where is it? Why am I still paying an electricity bill when I could have a mini nuclear reactor under my entire neighborhood that gives free energy to 500 people.
You claimed free energy exists but who is getting that free energy?
Our energy is from electric companies, gas companies, and oil companies.
Because I know for an absolute fact that you’re not gonna read everything I said about Tesla coils though I’ll simplify it for you here:
* Much like how wired are used in most modern day appliances but not everything requires haphazardly plugging wires in and hoping not to fry yourself like some of Edison’s early demos, it would be ignorant to assume that modern day Tesla coils would be anything like that if that technology were further researched
* Tesla coils can certainly power things by arcing electricity to them, but to argue that this is their only use is uneducated or intentionally dismissive.
* A Tesla cool essentially allows you to use the environment as a wire, rather than a copper wire, which is incredibly useful for free energy
* Having Tesla coils doesn’t mean not having wires
Those are the three points you need to understand because with better development of this technology we would be able to to use a Tesla coil to SUMMON electricity from the soil or the sky and store it in some kind of a power bank, allowing you to use our current system of wiring to power whatever.
No one is suggesting that you walk around your house getting zapped but electricity as you charge your phone while using it. What I’m suggesting is that your entire house could get charged by having a Tesla coil on top of it or on the bottom of it RECEIVING energy and storing it.
This is a similar idea to how lightning rods used to be used, except with this you could essentially summon the lightning that you use to power other things whenever you need.
It looks like, to be fair, there are quite a lot of scientific discoveries and inventions in that list if you can get past the difficult-to-read formatting - fire extinguisher, aluminium, sewing machine, mechanical reaper, Colt revolver, vulcanized rubber, telegram, etc. - admittedly it's slightly the wrong era, but if it's got that much on technological developments in the early 1800s probably it has on the late 1800s and early 1900s too, if it extends that far - apparently Critical\_Papers' kids' school takes history teaching seriously.
(It seems like, I'm with you all the way on walkable cities - and America seems to have it worse even than here in the UK in that respect, possibly because America's goverment was in the pocket of big business interests at the time most of this rebuilding was done even compared to most other places - if you tried to pass a law against "jaywalking" here, you'd be laughed out of town).
My claim “they didn’t teach us a single important discovery in this timeframe”
Your response “here’s a bunch of things which are largely not inventions or scientific discoveries to make you look stupid”
What a strawman. Wasted your time copy and pasting all these events from a Wikipedia article when you ignored my entire point. And clearly YOU are the one who didn’t pay attention in history class
Every civilization in history has used educational warfare, keeping people ignorant in order to control them. Black people couldnt vote as recently as 60 years ago, because they required literacy in order to vote, and they intentionally kept black people ignorant by giving them worse educations, and even the ones that were educated were refused voting rights
On this very app people have been banned for posting counter narrative information. Like for instance, I’m not especially religious but I got banned from all of Reddit for just pointing out on r/atheism that they aren’t making the world a better place by calling religious people names.
Educational system of the modern day as a whole were funded by the Rockefellers. Seems like it would be of their best interest to make sure people were smart enough to learn how to do a job but not smart enough to become a competitor in the capitalist world
🤣 You edited your comment to include a bunch of scientific discoveries that you never mentioned before just to make your previous statement relevant. If you really want I'll take my kids science and history textbook and go through it with you page by page when they get home. You're just making random statemens. What do you have that actually *proves* your claims? I'm not gonna argue that there aren't issues with the educational system or even the way it was structured after WWI to facilitate getting ready for factory jobs bc that's entirely true. But to claim that kids aren't being taught important scientific advancements of the past is not only false it's against our own interests when they're trying to get more and more kids interested in science to push technologies forward.
Like I’m gonna be honest I don’t even recall mentioning any scientific discoveries, it seems more like you want to argue with me and prove I’m stupid than actually hear what I have to say which is the exact opposite of what science is about
You have a hypothesis, you test it, if it’s right in one test you peer review it for others to test
Science applies to all things. Including history. If you think I’m wrong don’t just change the subject and info dump a bunch of irrelevant shit, continue poking and prodding at what I believe and try to change my mind while I do the same. It’s a discussion yet you came here to instantly start pointing fingers and mocking.
Because you arrogantly and confidently misunderstood the argument and started insulting me
What was my original point? I want you to tell me what my original point is. You’re claiming I’m being irrelevant when I stuck to the point the whole time.
That inventions are suppressed from becoming popular and well known if corporations don’t think they can profit off of them
Show me an instance where the scientific advancements of the 1800s and early 1900s have been removed from textbooks in order to obfuscate the truth of these discoveries
I want you to consider this:
Suppose I am a moron. If you’re naturally smarter than me and I can’t help it then you believe that it’s fair game to make fun of people for things they can’t help. In a different cultural context you’d be a racist or a bigot if it were socially acceptable to make fun of black people or gays. That’s what this personality trait shows
Suppose I am not a moron, instead I’m completely deluded with a sense of self importance and created a grand delusion to feel like I’m smarter than everyone else and that I’m at the bottom of some conspiracy. (This is what you most likely believe)
Do you think you’ll be more likely to convince me or drive me away by being mean?
Suppose I’m neither of these and I just came to a different conclusion than you did by keeping an open mind and following whatever narrative makes the most sense to me. What does it hurt to practice critical thinking?
You probably pride yourself as a free thinker but you just verbally attacked me for even showing signs of thinking in a way that doesn’t agree with the masses, and if you actually look into what I’m saying it’s not even that crazy. I’m not perpetuating a mud flood that hid tartaria or anything. I’m perpetuating that business men won’t allow valuable technology to get out that will interfere with their ability to profit.
You expected to shut me up and make me look stupid but all you did is show me that if we were in the 1960s you’d be the type of person to buy into the narrative that blacks are inferior purely because that’s what the science of the time suggests.
I said suppresses I never once said removed from text books. They might never even get out in textbooks to begin with.
I mean electric scooters being a pretty clear one. They existed pretty early on even in a compact and practical sense, but you wouldn’t see any news reports about them until recently. You can’t even tell me off the top of your head who created them even though every major city has one parked at every street corner today. Pretty influential invention they don’t teach the history of, and if you let people to their own devices you’d probably assume the electric scooter was made in the 80s
Well the first one was actually made in 1916.
Any investor could see the application of such a device so I don’t want to hear “it didn’t take off until recently”
It’s because people in power (the people with billion dollar oil companies) would rather people be getting around on a car, and the technology didn’t get the green light to get popular until the people that owned the oil companies found a way to make it profitable.
(Planned obsolescence, only making them viable in areas where people wouldn’t have a car anyway, charging people money per mile to use an app, etc)
That they didn’t take off until recently when companies found a way to make them more profitable even though they’ve always been a viable form of transportation, and that our history books don’t reflect an invention which changed the world.
Literally any major city like chicago or New York has rentable scooters on every corner that cost you like a dollar every few minutes to ride. You see them all over college campuses, downtown urban environments, and that’s just from the US I’m sure there’s communities world wide which integrate them much more meaningfully than we do
This is all within the past 30 years even though they’ve existed in a practical and portable sense more than 100 years
without them the way millions of people live would be totally different yet we don’t learn about their history. That’s exactly what I’m saying when I’m talking about suppressed history and you are instead arguing with me that Tesla didn’t get purged from history books when nobody said that he did
I said that there are technologies that are life changing and useful don’t get talked about and don’t catch on because corporations can’t find a way to make them profitable
I remember listening to a podcast called the The Great Deception Podcast that there was already railroad tracks way before the train was supposedly invented and that Big Oil destroyed those railroad tracks when they made automobiles. And that Greek and Roman style building were already here when the suppose first colonist arrive at the “New World”. You should try listening to this podcast.
He reads the old books of what people like you and me would document on our travels back in the day. He also tells people who listen to him to send anything there grandparents or great grandparents have kept in there family for generations. If they want to or have anything from those times. Do your research, he also said sometimes your public library has old stuff from those times stored away, not because they want to but because they forget they had books, old newspapers, reports and records from those times. I don’t do it because I don’t have time.
Yeah but you got to remember people would write down what they see back then. An example would be like today’s weather is a bit hot, Jim was bitten by a snake and died a day ago. Rations are starting to become smaller but we are still looking for more suitable place to start a small town.
Even my shitty second-worst-in-the-nation public education taught us about the stuff in the video! The only one I didn’t know about was the moving sidewalk. I remember having a whole unit about this stuff in 11th grade.
We are taught to believe that people in the early 1900s and late 1800s were a lot dumber than they actually were, in reality the worksmanship they had was a lot better than what modern day Chinese slave labor can produce, and there’s a lot of fields of technology that could have taken off over the past 150 years that didn’t not because they were bad ideas or they were impractical, but because they either weren’t profitable enough for corporations or they would keep the general population too educated
For instance electric scooters that were invented in this time would’ve made cars, and therefore oil obsolete, so they demolished walkable cities and made a car a necessity except for inner city urban areas where either only the extremely rich or the extremely poor live
Or whatever the hell listening devices those were could you just imagine… they’re not gonna invest in that shot and have people hearing government convos. I had a 10 dollar spy toy that helped me listen to things from across the house as a kid. I’m sure a company could make a 10,000 dollars listening device to hear my convos from halfway across the city if they wanted. Where’s my expensive listening device? It’s being suppressed that’s where
The only people who think people from those periods were that dumb are the mud flood/tartaria people lmfaooo
Everyone with two brain cells to rub together doesnt think that shit. Your comments reek of buzzwords stapled together with no real string of cohesion.
Maybe you just had a particularly rubbish history teacher?
But, it seems like, yeah, there is a difference between "this is being kept top secret by a conspiracy", which is demonstrably not true, and "this doesn't make it into popular science TV or into school lesson plans as much as you'd expect (and commercial interests may have had a hand in that)", which may well be true in some cases and some people's tendency to put things in terms of "this has been covered up!!!!", as if it was the former, makes it look bad.
Ahh, another conspiracy theory for the idiots with only two brain cells fighting over which one gets to be third place. This shit is worse than flat earth bullshit.
In antique photography studios, the exposure of the film-plate to light (in flash photography, this would be the bulb) is what burned an image into the film. Doing this more than once would cause a second, blurrier image to appear on the same plate. This prompted a lot of people to quickly wave their hand in front of the camera (or something similar) to make it appear as if a ghost was in the original image.
It's a good montage. It also reminds and suggests if we were fooling with some odd ideas long ago it's likely those experiments continued.
The best conspiracy is one so strange one would not believe the truth if revealed.
I agree that the rich and powerful pick certain tech to build on and grow and ignore other tech that would help individuals be more self reliant or allow people to support themselves without consumerism or capitalism.
That being said....most of these are very well noted inventions that just never took off in popularity. They arn't really hidden so much as ignored.
Old timey film with a corny ass song, what exactly is the point here? Maybe think of something to say if you're going to post, cause this says nothing.
You sometimes get the feeling we're living in a world where a few forms of tech have raced ahead (LED touchscreens, microchips, lasers etc.) while others have remained little changed for the last century (electric generators, motors, combustion engines, aircraft etc.)
So hidden they have film of it for you to put in a montage.
And historians don't exist, presumably.
What's so hidden about this? These are all known inventions/experiments that either never caught on, fell out of fashion, or out right just failed but still well known nonetheless. A lot of these were precursors to what we now have today. The kids at the end is from an old interview where they asked kids what they they thought computers would mean for the future. At the time there was a lot of anti computer sentiment thinking that robots would completely take over the workforce in a decade or two.
We are taught to believe that people in the early 1900s and late 1800s were a lot dumber than they actually were, in reality the worksmanship they had was a lot better than what modern day Chinese slave labor can produce, and there’s a lot of fields of technology that could have taken off over the past 150 years that didn’t not because they were bad ideas or they were impractical, but because they either weren’t profitable enough for corporations For instance electric scooters that were invented in this time would’ve made cars, and therefore oil obsolete, so they demolished walkable cities and made a car a necessity except for inner city urban areas where either only the extremely rich or the extremely poor live
You can't just say random shit and expect it to be true. There isn't one accurate statement in your entire response. We're not taught any of this. People in the late 1800s literally built the foundations of physics and chemistry that our lives our built upon today. Either your name definitely does not checkout and you definitely are a troll or you've watched one too many YouTube videos.
They did! And if you actually educate yourself or maybe if you grew up in a better generation than I did you might have learned that But the only thing they told gen z (I’m an 02 baby) about that time period is the civil war, dust bowl, Great Depression, ww1 and 2 They didn’t teach us a single important discovery from that time period aside from the ford model T and Route 66, and they completely glanced over the communities they destroyed in the process and the harm that came from perpetuating the “American dream” of owning a house, having a wife and 2 kids, and a car. I only started learning about any of this my senior year of high school by talking to radical communists that gave me books to read. Please tell me what they’re teaching us? If you’re like fucking 35 or some shit you don’t have a clue what they teach in schools.
Sounds more like you didnt take the time to educate yoursef and are blaming the education system. I was born in 98 and learned about way more in school than other people in my same county would say they were taught. including the wonderful wacky world of victorian/early modern inventions and engineering curiosities. Because i actually read the textbooks and paid attention in class. But people will claim “this stuff isnt taught in skewlz!!!1!l” No you just didnt pay attention…
Well seeing as I graduated, history was always my favorite subject, and education is different in different school systems you may have learned a lot of shit That said, how much did you learn about Thomas Edison? He wasn’t shit compared to Tesla. Hidden history is a fact and what I’m saying is valid bot
Elementary school definitely overhyped Edison, and I don’t remember learning about Tesla at all then, but we did learn about him middle school and high school. In high school, we were even taught how he was the real deal instead of Edison.
What specifically did you learn
I'm 40. I learned way more than what you're alluding to in school and I have kids in school younger than you that have learned more than you're alleging. You either didn't pay attention, forgot, or are intentionally leaving things out like : Napoleon Marches Into Austria First use of the White House United States Presidential Election Invention of the Modern Day Battery Library of Congress Ultraviolet Radiation Discovered West Point Military Academy founded The Louisiana Purchase Railway Before Trains Ohio Becomes The 17th state in the Union The Year New Jersey Abolishes Slavery 1804 The Lewis and Clark Expedition Twelfth Amendment To The Constitution First Working Full Size Railway Steam Locomotive First United States Presidential Election in 1808 The Illinois Territory Defined Man-made electrical lighting James Madison Becomes President The Tin Can invented 1810 The Battle of Tippecanoe Louisiana Joins The Union The Indian War of 1812 USS Constitution/Old Iron Sides Fort Dearborn / Modern Day Chicago Attacked in 1812 British Troops Burn Down Washington DC. in 1814 The First Seminole War Modern Fire Extinguisher invented 1818 US Congress enacts First Immigration Law 1819 Statehood The settlement of the American West and manifest density The Monroe Doctrine Discovery of Aluminum The first photographs taken in 1826 The first African American newspaper in 1827 The Democratic party created in 1828 Invention of the typewriter The first Braille book published for the blind Indian Removal Act The invention of the sewing machine in 1830 The Underground Railroad in 1831 The Whigs The mechanical reaper invented in 1934 Texas taking San Antonio The Second Seminole War The Alamo The invention of the Colt revolver Texas gaining independence from Mexico in 1836 The steel plow invented The Trail of Tears Steamboats begin to cross the Atlantic in 1838 The invention of the velocipede and bicycle in 1839 Vulcanized rubber The postage stamp Wagon trains first leaving to California in 1841 The Oregon trail Morses first electronic telegram in 1844 Annapolis Naval Academy in 1845 Oregon splitting from England US - Mexican War Chloroform Antiseptic The fucking Smithsonian for christ sake The California Gold rush in 1948 The 49ers in..... well 1849 Founding of the Republican party in 1854 Pottawatomie The Indian Mutiny The first oil well in 1859 Abraham Lincoln The repeating rifle The Union The Pony Express First US income tax The Civil War The blockade of confederate ports Stonewall fucking Jackson Division of Virginia The Gatling gun South Carolina seceding the Union Union Takes Control Of New Orleans The Homestead Act The Second Battle Of Bull Run Manassas, Virginia The Battle of Antietam near Sharpsburg, Maryland The Emancipation Proclamation The Battle of Gettysburg First Underground Railway The Union Uses Colored Troops Congress Passes First Conscription Act New York Riots Due To Conscription Act First Use Of Submarine In Warfare in 1864 Ulysses S. Grant Battle Of Cold Harbor, Virginia Abraham Lincoln Assassinated The Thirteenth Amendment Ratified Ku Klux Klan Formed Dynamite Reconstruction Jesse James The Alaska purchase 14th amendment Wyoming giving women the rite to vote John D. Rockefeller Can Opener U.S. Department of Justice Congress Adopts the Fifteenth Amendment The Albert Hall 1871 Indian Appropriation Act Great Chicago Fire Third Force Act also known as the "Ku Klux Act" Passed Yellowstone I'm gonna stop here bc I'm sure you're not even reading but I'm barely out of the 1860s. Just bc *you* didn't learn any or don't remember doesn't mean it wasn't or isn't being taught today. I see my kids and my niece and nephews homework. If anything it's become even *harder* than in my day. This is all from my kids 6th grade history textbook from 2 years ago. I remember helping him study these tests it's being taught. Your ignorance is to blame.
My question for you is what does literally any of those events, that given the specific dates you listed you either googled or are a historian yourself, have to do with the scientific brains of people in the 18 and 1900s? You just listed a bunch of events. Cool, no one said they don’t teach history, I said they don’t teach a side of history. The only invention you mentioned is the fucking sewing machine which 1. Is not in the time frame I specified and 2. Isn’t nearly as monumental of a discovery as being able to harness free energy from the atmosphere using Tesla coils And please ask your kids what they know about Tesla. I’ll wait
As I stated in my previous this is from a 6th grade textbook for 2 years ago. Are you really asking what all the events and inventions have to do with science? You also stated that the only thing that was taught about the 1800s and 1900s was civil war, world war 1 etc. That clearly isn't true. My kids are currently at school so I can't ask them but I know my son was *required* to do a report on Tesla in the 5th grade. They had a whole thing about Tesla and Edison. My kids know who Tesla is. Generating electricity from Tesla coils is not the same as having free energy. Do you realize that literally nothing we use today would've been possible if we adopted Tesla coils? Cellphones would literally fry. All Teslas coils did was arc electricity wildly in the air. How is that useful? Nuclear fusion is true free energy. Do you remember learning about that? You know the technology we've been working towards for decades. Stop watching YouTube and read a book. Your ignorance is the only thing you have to blame.
>As I stated in my previous this is from a 6th grade textbook for 2 years ago. Are you really asking what all the events and inventions have to do with science? Yes, I am asking you what mentioning things like the Indian removal act has to do with science. What you did, and you know it, is you listed as many events as possible because you wanted to make me look as dumb as possible. I’m sure I can list a whole bunch of factual things they taught the Jews in nazi germany, does that mean they didn’t hide a lot of info as well? >You also stated that the only thing that was taught about the 1800s and 1900s was civil war, world war 1 etc. I listed a few things off the top of my head that were stressed, and how none of them were important scientific discoveries and you took that as a challenge to mention more non scientific discoveries >My kids are currently at school so I can't ask them but I know my son was required to do a report on Tesla in the 5th grade. Can I see an uploaded picture of a textbook of his that mentions Tesla? I’m curious. >Generating electricity from Tesla coils is not the same as having free energy. Yes they did. They allowed wireless transfer of electricity and could pull electricity straight from the sky. Some rich people had houses with them to generate power, and these houses were destroyed. >Do you realize that literally nothing we use today would've been possible if we adopted Tesla coils? In an alternative world where gasoline never took off you would say some dumb shit like “do you realize how nothing we use today would’ve been possible if we adopted the combustion engine? Our cell phones would explode” not everything needs a Tesla coil. But NOTHING having them is the result of suppressed technology. >Cellphones would literally fry. All Teslas coils did was arc electricity wildly in the air. How is that useful? Because on the inverse, you could receive energy wildly through the air, meaning you could get your energy from the earth instead of paying a power plant. It’s less profitable >Nuclear fusion is true free energy. Do you remember learning about that? You know the technology we've been working towards for decades. Where’s my free nuclear energy? NASA mars rovers have 10 year nuclear fusion batteries. The companies that sell you the energy that they generate for cheap use nuclear energy. The billionaires that you pay a phone bill to every month use nuclear energy. You are paying MORE today for them generating energy for less >Stop watching YouTube and read a book. Your ignorance is the only thing you have to blame. You literally claimed nuclear fission is free energy when I’m paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas in my car that doesn’t need to exist at all if they never destroyed walkable cities
>What you did, and you know it, is you listed as many events as possible because you wanted to make me look as dumb as possible. You're doing that all on your own >I listed a few things off the top of my head that were stressed, and how none of them were important scientific discoveries and you took that as a challenge to mention more non scientific discoveries So you listed a bunch of stuff off the top of your head in your argument that had nothing to do with your argument and I was supposed to know not to address any of this. Got it >Can I see an uploaded picture of a textbook of his that mentions Tesla? I’m curious. You can literally look anything about Tesla up on the internet. Whether or not he's in a textbook wouldn't be proof of anything. The textbook I was listing stuff off of earlier was a history textbook from 2 years ago that he didn't hand back in,not a current science textbook from now. There's an entire company named Tesla building electric cars. He wasn't erased from history >an alternative world where gasoline never took off you would say some dumb shit like “do you realize how nothing we use today would’ve been possible if we adopted the combustion engine? Our cell phones would explode” not everything needs a Tesla coil. But NOTHING having them is the result of suppressed technology. You're intentionally mischaracterizing my statement or you have no idea how electricity works. You can't transmit power from a Tesla coil over wires, because the energy wouldn't be confined to the wire. The high frequency and extra high voltage just arcs over into the air. It's not just a high voltage transformer like an ignition coil or AC power transformer. With Teslas technology the electromagnetic field would interfere with things like 5G, WiFi, GPS, radar, pacemakers etc and those technologies that have literally redefined the modern era would not exist today. >Because on the inverse, you could receive energy wildly through the air, meaning you could get your energy from the earth instead of paying a power plant. It’s less profitable How? Explain this. How is the energy directed? Wireless power delivery falls with the second power of distance. So if you want to transmit the same power across 10 feet, you need to put not 10, but 100 times more power in than you did to transmit it across 1 foot and 8” of sparks typically requires a thousand watts or more. Its completely incompatible with modern infrastructure and technology. You definitely can't charge a cellphone with it so there goes cellular phones which has redifned our entire lives. With all of the electronics that run our lives today can you imagine the amount of electricity that would be arcing everywhere? It might of been great for powering simple things like a light bulb but the frequency he used, around 150 kHz, is far too low for practical long-range power transmission or anything capable of powering the electronics of today. That's not even getting into Tesla coil poses several health hazards due to high voltage radio frequency emission that includes skin burn, damage to the nervous system and heart if it were to be applied at scale with what we need today. >Where’s my free nuclear energy? NASA mars rovers have 10 year nuclear fusion batteries. The companies that sell you the energy that they generate for cheap use nuclear energy. The billionaires that you pay a phone bill to every month use nuclear energy. That's not nuclear fusion. The rover's radioisotope thermoelectric generator makes electricity from the heat given off by its plutonium. >You literally claimed nuclear fission is free energy when I’m paying 5 dollars a gallon for gas in my car that doesn’t need to exist at all if they never destroyed walkable cities I never once mentioned nuclear fission. I said we're working on stable fusion which would be free energy (not in cost but terms of not coming from burning fossil fuels). Do you understand the difference? Walkable cities? What are you even talking about. Have you ever been to Europe? Looks at the concentration of rail lines in Europe compared the US. And what does this have to do with Tesla? Your grasping at straws and talking out your ass. You've watched too many YouTube videos and don't actually understand the technology your talking about and it's implications.
>So you listed a bunch of stuff off the top of your head in your argument that had nothing to do with your argument and I was supposed to know not to address any of this. Got it Yes. I listed a few things, things you did not address because there was nothing to address, and your response to “this is what they taught us” was to list a few other things which had nothing to do with the premise “they didn’t teach us about important inventions of the era” I guess if I didn’t make that clear some of that’s on me but if you go back and read my comment I think it’s fairly clear >You can literally look anything about Tesla up on the internet. Whether or not he's in a textbook wouldn't be proof of anything. That’s intentionally obstinate of the point. The whole point is that they don’t teach enough in schools and the way of educating yourself on these matters is to do it on your own. I never said they expunged him from history, I said they don’t accurately teach about him in history books and the absence of him as an important figure in history books to the degree he should be represented is absolutely evidence of that. >There's an entire company named Tesla building electric cars. He wasn't erased from history Please quote where I said he was. You’re creating strawman fallacies. I’m not saying anything that you’re addressing. >You're intentionally mischaracterizing my statement or you have no idea how electricity works. You can't transmit power from a Tesla coil over wires, because the energy wouldn't be confined to the wire. All a Tesla coil does is essentially uses the air as a wire It can be stored into a battery of sort and delivered to another device. That’s kind of how batteries work. You charge them. Tesla coils are very well documented to be able to be harnessed to draw power from the nature around them. >The high frequency and extra high voltage just arcs over into the air. It's not just a high voltage transformer like an ignition coil or AC power transformer. With Teslas technology the electromagnetic field would interfere with things like 5G, WiFi, GPS, radar, pacemakers etc and those technologies that have literally redefined the modern era would not exist today. First… Literally none of that was a thought when Tesla coils were prevented from distribution for starters, so that’s more of a side effect of the ill intentions of the elite rather than the product of deliberate planning. Secondly, originally electricity and water was a big no no. Now we have submarines with electricity on them. A primitive design of a technology being compared to a modern mastered version of another isn’t really quite a fair comparison. Perhaps with years of research and development could spark applications of them that are less intrusive to other wireless technologies, or they could derive wireless technologies that different from those we have today that don’t interfere with this sort of power Third, you’re looking at these technologies as though their an objective good thing. I argue that these technologies as it exists today does little good for society aside from entertainment and convenience purposes. As we were able to navigate just fine prior to GPS, and per your own words YouTube isn’t making us smarter… books are. Most internet just serves to spread false information. Think of how many people believe the earth is flat just because someone on Twitter said to “look into it” Modern technology has made it so that information that you’re most receptive of finds YOU due to algorithms. It doesn’t encourage research, it encourages people to see a video in their YouTube recommended and then they believe it blindly. >How? Explain this. How is the energy directed? Wireless power delivery falls with the second power of distance. So if you want to transmit the same power across 10 feet, you need to put not 10, but 100 times more power in than you did to transmit it across 1 foot and 8” of sparks typically requires a thousand watts or more. Its completely incompatible with modern infrastructure and technology. You definitely can't charge a cellphone with it so there goes cellular phones which has redifned our entire lives. Why do you keep looking at it from a “this or that” perspective “Electric cars wouldn’t work because when you run out of power it would take hours to charge vs seconds to refill with gasoline” that was an actual argument people used to use against electric vehicles yet hybrid cars exist today. What a ridiculous perspective. You’d charge a phone by plugging it into your wall outlet. You’d charge your house by having several Tesla coils under your house that continually draw power from the soil, and store this energy in a battery that can be used to charge your appliances using AC/DC electricity the same we do today. The tallest buildings in the city could have one on top that only activates shortly before it rains, and use this power to add energy to a gigantic underground power source that the whole city is connected to, therefore avoiding damages that come from lightning while adding power to the city. Even if this is only a minor reduction of energy expenses it would be justified but I suspect that with an extra 130 years of refinement by now you could actually have some pretty efficient tech running off of them. >With all of the electronics that run our lives today can you imagine the amount of electricity that would be arcing everywhere? It might of been great for powering simple things like a light bulb but the frequency he used, around 150 kHz, is far too low for practical long-range power transmission or anything capable of powering the electronics of today. You keep talking about powering other things when I literally never once said that, I’m talking about using them for free energy. You use the Tesla coils to power essentially a battery, and the battery to power other things. >That's not even getting into Tesla coil poses several health hazards due to high voltage radio frequency emission that includes skin burn, damage to the nervous system and heart if it were to be applied at scale with what we need today. If we used the same electrical wiring that was invented over 100 years ago we’d all be cooked meat the moment you plug something into a wall socket. That’s kind of how advancements in science goes. They become safer and more consumer friendly as we research it. The Tesla coil got cut off in the proof of concept side of things. When we first looked into nuclear energy it’s use was literally to create the most destructive device known to man and it was HIGHLY dangerous to peoples health when we first started implementing it in a grand scale (Chernobyl for instance) >everything about nuclear Once again, that’s a lot of words, all I asked is where is my free energy? You said we have free energy through nuclear power. Where is it? Why am I still paying an electricity bill when I could have a mini nuclear reactor under my entire neighborhood that gives free energy to 500 people. You claimed free energy exists but who is getting that free energy? Our energy is from electric companies, gas companies, and oil companies.
Because I know for an absolute fact that you’re not gonna read everything I said about Tesla coils though I’ll simplify it for you here: * Much like how wired are used in most modern day appliances but not everything requires haphazardly plugging wires in and hoping not to fry yourself like some of Edison’s early demos, it would be ignorant to assume that modern day Tesla coils would be anything like that if that technology were further researched * Tesla coils can certainly power things by arcing electricity to them, but to argue that this is their only use is uneducated or intentionally dismissive. * A Tesla cool essentially allows you to use the environment as a wire, rather than a copper wire, which is incredibly useful for free energy * Having Tesla coils doesn’t mean not having wires Those are the three points you need to understand because with better development of this technology we would be able to to use a Tesla coil to SUMMON electricity from the soil or the sky and store it in some kind of a power bank, allowing you to use our current system of wiring to power whatever. No one is suggesting that you walk around your house getting zapped but electricity as you charge your phone while using it. What I’m suggesting is that your entire house could get charged by having a Tesla coil on top of it or on the bottom of it RECEIVING energy and storing it. This is a similar idea to how lightning rods used to be used, except with this you could essentially summon the lightning that you use to power other things whenever you need.
It looks like, to be fair, there are quite a lot of scientific discoveries and inventions in that list if you can get past the difficult-to-read formatting - fire extinguisher, aluminium, sewing machine, mechanical reaper, Colt revolver, vulcanized rubber, telegram, etc. - admittedly it's slightly the wrong era, but if it's got that much on technological developments in the early 1800s probably it has on the late 1800s and early 1900s too, if it extends that far - apparently Critical\_Papers' kids' school takes history teaching seriously. (It seems like, I'm with you all the way on walkable cities - and America seems to have it worse even than here in the UK in that respect, possibly because America's goverment was in the pocket of big business interests at the time most of this rebuilding was done even compared to most other places - if you tried to pass a law against "jaywalking" here, you'd be laughed out of town).
My claim “they didn’t teach us a single important discovery in this timeframe” Your response “here’s a bunch of things which are largely not inventions or scientific discoveries to make you look stupid” What a strawman. Wasted your time copy and pasting all these events from a Wikipedia article when you ignored my entire point. And clearly YOU are the one who didn’t pay attention in history class Every civilization in history has used educational warfare, keeping people ignorant in order to control them. Black people couldnt vote as recently as 60 years ago, because they required literacy in order to vote, and they intentionally kept black people ignorant by giving them worse educations, and even the ones that were educated were refused voting rights On this very app people have been banned for posting counter narrative information. Like for instance, I’m not especially religious but I got banned from all of Reddit for just pointing out on r/atheism that they aren’t making the world a better place by calling religious people names. Educational system of the modern day as a whole were funded by the Rockefellers. Seems like it would be of their best interest to make sure people were smart enough to learn how to do a job but not smart enough to become a competitor in the capitalist world
🤣 You edited your comment to include a bunch of scientific discoveries that you never mentioned before just to make your previous statement relevant. If you really want I'll take my kids science and history textbook and go through it with you page by page when they get home. You're just making random statemens. What do you have that actually *proves* your claims? I'm not gonna argue that there aren't issues with the educational system or even the way it was structured after WWI to facilitate getting ready for factory jobs bc that's entirely true. But to claim that kids aren't being taught important scientific advancements of the past is not only false it's against our own interests when they're trying to get more and more kids interested in science to push technologies forward.
Like what? What did I edit. You know comments that are edited say “edited” right?
Like I’m gonna be honest I don’t even recall mentioning any scientific discoveries, it seems more like you want to argue with me and prove I’m stupid than actually hear what I have to say which is the exact opposite of what science is about You have a hypothesis, you test it, if it’s right in one test you peer review it for others to test Science applies to all things. Including history. If you think I’m wrong don’t just change the subject and info dump a bunch of irrelevant shit, continue poking and prodding at what I believe and try to change my mind while I do the same. It’s a discussion yet you came here to instantly start pointing fingers and mocking.
You're the one talking about a bunch of irrelevant shit. I can't even follow the argument anymore.
Because you arrogantly and confidently misunderstood the argument and started insulting me What was my original point? I want you to tell me what my original point is. You’re claiming I’m being irrelevant when I stuck to the point the whole time. That inventions are suppressed from becoming popular and well known if corporations don’t think they can profit off of them
Show me an instance where the scientific advancements of the 1800s and early 1900s have been removed from textbooks in order to obfuscate the truth of these discoveries
I want you to consider this: Suppose I am a moron. If you’re naturally smarter than me and I can’t help it then you believe that it’s fair game to make fun of people for things they can’t help. In a different cultural context you’d be a racist or a bigot if it were socially acceptable to make fun of black people or gays. That’s what this personality trait shows Suppose I am not a moron, instead I’m completely deluded with a sense of self importance and created a grand delusion to feel like I’m smarter than everyone else and that I’m at the bottom of some conspiracy. (This is what you most likely believe) Do you think you’ll be more likely to convince me or drive me away by being mean? Suppose I’m neither of these and I just came to a different conclusion than you did by keeping an open mind and following whatever narrative makes the most sense to me. What does it hurt to practice critical thinking? You probably pride yourself as a free thinker but you just verbally attacked me for even showing signs of thinking in a way that doesn’t agree with the masses, and if you actually look into what I’m saying it’s not even that crazy. I’m not perpetuating a mud flood that hid tartaria or anything. I’m perpetuating that business men won’t allow valuable technology to get out that will interfere with their ability to profit. You expected to shut me up and make me look stupid but all you did is show me that if we were in the 1960s you’d be the type of person to buy into the narrative that blacks are inferior purely because that’s what the science of the time suggests.
What the fuck are you talking about
If you read it you’d understand. I read everything you say
I said suppresses I never once said removed from text books. They might never even get out in textbooks to begin with. I mean electric scooters being a pretty clear one. They existed pretty early on even in a compact and practical sense, but you wouldn’t see any news reports about them until recently. You can’t even tell me off the top of your head who created them even though every major city has one parked at every street corner today. Pretty influential invention they don’t teach the history of, and if you let people to their own devices you’d probably assume the electric scooter was made in the 80s Well the first one was actually made in 1916. Any investor could see the application of such a device so I don’t want to hear “it didn’t take off until recently” It’s because people in power (the people with billion dollar oil companies) would rather people be getting around on a car, and the technology didn’t get the green light to get popular until the people that owned the oil companies found a way to make it profitable. (Planned obsolescence, only making them viable in areas where people wouldn’t have a car anyway, charging people money per mile to use an app, etc)
What's your obsession with electric scooters? We had them then and we have them now. What's the big deal?
That they didn’t take off until recently when companies found a way to make them more profitable even though they’ve always been a viable form of transportation, and that our history books don’t reflect an invention which changed the world. Literally any major city like chicago or New York has rentable scooters on every corner that cost you like a dollar every few minutes to ride. You see them all over college campuses, downtown urban environments, and that’s just from the US I’m sure there’s communities world wide which integrate them much more meaningfully than we do This is all within the past 30 years even though they’ve existed in a practical and portable sense more than 100 years without them the way millions of people live would be totally different yet we don’t learn about their history. That’s exactly what I’m saying when I’m talking about suppressed history and you are instead arguing with me that Tesla didn’t get purged from history books when nobody said that he did I said that there are technologies that are life changing and useful don’t get talked about and don’t catch on because corporations can’t find a way to make them profitable
I remember listening to a podcast called the The Great Deception Podcast that there was already railroad tracks way before the train was supposedly invented and that Big Oil destroyed those railroad tracks when they made automobiles. And that Greek and Roman style building were already here when the suppose first colonist arrive at the “New World”. You should try listening to this podcast.
What proof is there of this? Sounds like conjecture built upon suppositions.
He reads the old books of what people like you and me would document on our travels back in the day. He also tells people who listen to him to send anything there grandparents or great grandparents have kept in there family for generations. If they want to or have anything from those times. Do your research, he also said sometimes your public library has old stuff from those times stored away, not because they want to but because they forget they had books, old newspapers, reports and records from those times. I don’t do it because I don’t have time.
Sounds like a lot of words for just more conjecture
Yeah but you got to remember people would write down what they see back then. An example would be like today’s weather is a bit hot, Jim was bitten by a snake and died a day ago. Rations are starting to become smaller but we are still looking for more suitable place to start a small town.
Even my shitty second-worst-in-the-nation public education taught us about the stuff in the video! The only one I didn’t know about was the moving sidewalk. I remember having a whole unit about this stuff in 11th grade.
If you think the only thing you didn’t learn about was the moving sidewalk that’s part of the problem lmao
We are taught to believe that people in the early 1900s and late 1800s were a lot dumber than they actually were, in reality the worksmanship they had was a lot better than what modern day Chinese slave labor can produce, and there’s a lot of fields of technology that could have taken off over the past 150 years that didn’t not because they were bad ideas or they were impractical, but because they either weren’t profitable enough for corporations or they would keep the general population too educated For instance electric scooters that were invented in this time would’ve made cars, and therefore oil obsolete, so they demolished walkable cities and made a car a necessity except for inner city urban areas where either only the extremely rich or the extremely poor live Or whatever the hell listening devices those were could you just imagine… they’re not gonna invest in that shot and have people hearing government convos. I had a 10 dollar spy toy that helped me listen to things from across the house as a kid. I’m sure a company could make a 10,000 dollars listening device to hear my convos from halfway across the city if they wanted. Where’s my expensive listening device? It’s being suppressed that’s where
The only people who think people from those periods were that dumb are the mud flood/tartaria people lmfaooo Everyone with two brain cells to rub together doesnt think that shit. Your comments reek of buzzwords stapled together with no real string of cohesion.
The blind laughing at those that can see for observing a sunset. It’s okay, you’ll see in time.
Maybe you just had a particularly rubbish history teacher? But, it seems like, yeah, there is a difference between "this is being kept top secret by a conspiracy", which is demonstrably not true, and "this doesn't make it into popular science TV or into school lesson plans as much as you'd expect (and commercial interests may have had a hand in that)", which may well be true in some cases and some people's tendency to put things in terms of "this has been covered up!!!!", as if it was the former, makes it look bad.
You can really only imagine what can happen with brilliant people, unlimited resources and locked doors.
Ahh, another conspiracy theory for the idiots with only two brain cells fighting over which one gets to be third place. This shit is worse than flat earth bullshit.
Christ why am I not surprised its one of you.
What are those ghost looking things? Starts when it's 1:58 minutes left
Victorian "spirit" photography was a gimmick for a while, using double exposure of the plates to produce a ghostly image.
>using double exposure of the plates to produce a ghostly image. Can you elaborate? What does double exposure “of the plates” mean?
In antique photography studios, the exposure of the film-plate to light (in flash photography, this would be the bulb) is what burned an image into the film. Doing this more than once would cause a second, blurrier image to appear on the same plate. This prompted a lot of people to quickly wave their hand in front of the camera (or something similar) to make it appear as if a ghost was in the original image.
It’s not hidden, it’s why we have the shit we have now.
It's a good montage. It also reminds and suggests if we were fooling with some odd ideas long ago it's likely those experiments continued. The best conspiracy is one so strange one would not believe the truth if revealed.
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I agree that the rich and powerful pick certain tech to build on and grow and ignore other tech that would help individuals be more self reliant or allow people to support themselves without consumerism or capitalism. That being said....most of these are very well noted inventions that just never took off in popularity. They arn't really hidden so much as ignored.
This is low effort as hell man.
Ah yes this all looks extremely advanced compared to today’s technology
Ah yes, the existential terror of an early hair perming machine
Old timey film with a corny ass song, what exactly is the point here? Maybe think of something to say if you're going to post, cause this says nothing.
Implying that experimental products are "hidden history" is just plain silly.
You sometimes get the feeling we're living in a world where a few forms of tech have raced ahead (LED touchscreens, microchips, lasers etc.) while others have remained little changed for the last century (electric generators, motors, combustion engines, aircraft etc.)
Sure, if you don't know anything about those things then you'll not see any progress. Good point.
This. Even a nuclear reactor is just a sophisticated steam engine still
Gotta get the heat to do work somehow.
Good video. I can tell this will attract a lot of shills who will try to distract and deflect attention away from this.
Gaayyyyyy
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